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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14761660 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21165 on: February 21, 2014, 02:58:12 AM »
I would rather like a simple explanation how electrons can be drawn out of a metallic object without the need of having a closed electric circuit. Because that's the trick of Kapanadze, Stepanov and Barbosa to make things work.

Actually I would like to see Kapanadze, Stepanov and Barbosa explaining their devices in such an enthusiastic style. :P
Maybe this will tell you ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_induction

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21166 on: February 21, 2014, 04:01:45 AM »




 Yes finally someone calling out the explanation of what the electron is.

 Ok Peter Linderman did a video about this subject and also Tesla.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPK5sGKdBMQ

 At 24 minutes there is the greatest explanation of just what the electron is.

 The book Peter references is Basic Electricity by Van Valkenburgh circa 1954
 Let me give you the first sentence of the first paragraph of the first chapter.

 "All the effects of electricity can be explained and predicted by ****ASSUMING**** the existence of a tiny particle called the "Electron"."

 Another line tells the story of brainwashing that has gone on to believe in this nonsense.

 "Since the "Electron theory" has always worked for everyone, it will always work for you."

 "There is no spoon." Quote from the matrix.

 There is no proof of an electron. The closest they have come is seeing a cloud of charge that is highly mobile around particles and that is it.
 Lets go one further. lets say all matter is a particle with a shell of mobile charges. These charges give the particle induced value. We all know matter has huge amount of space in between each other. What do you think keeps that space there?

Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21167 on: February 21, 2014, 04:36:39 AM »
I don't think there's any mileage to be gained by arguing about what an electron is or isn't.
The important thing is to understand how we can use this mysterious  effect we call electricity to get energy we don't have to pay for, that is more economical than a solar panel.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21168 on: February 21, 2014, 08:00:06 AM »
Yes, but notice that the engineering and heuristic formulas based on those faulty concepts are still correct...more less.
e.g. we can write and use the Ohm's law (I=V/R) without really understanding what electric current is.
It's a masterpiece of a sort !

It should always be remembered that mathematical correctness does not mean conceptual correctness.

:)
Always a pleasure to read posts like that!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21169 on: February 21, 2014, 10:31:20 AM »
Hi Grumage,

I know this is really old news.

Akula0083Replication -Grumage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqjTHmmumU

I understand the only missing piece of equipment from your setup was a decent 220volt 50hz sine-wave inverter of around 350watt...500watt for 12volt or 24volt input.
You managed to pull mere 211watt from mains instead of using inverter at around 90% power  to 6 bulb(300watt total) as verified using light box meter via that video.

At around 90% power to 300watt bulbs would that work out to around 270watt output for 211watt input
There is still (270-211)59watt of excess power which wasn't sorted out yet via a efficient sine-wave inverter in order to create a close loop system.Or merely reducing the bulb by 1 would have solve the problem sometime ago but inverter was still the most important requirement.

Did i miss any information along the way.After all it's this video that made me join kapanadze thread. :D

I wonder if you have already tested with 220volt inverter since.

I hope the rest knows what i'm getting at.

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I'm curious do anyone knows of any 12v/24v battery powered inverter which have 3 transformer in it as attached.The most i have seen is one transformer in ups power supply.
I'm planning to get one soon.

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21170 on: February 21, 2014, 04:15:25 PM »
Maybe this will tell you ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_induction

Why not this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_induction

Given the fact that the Barbosa patent states:

»... sets of coils, wrapped by at least one common conductive member in a closed circuit in itself polarized voltage which is connected to the induction at least one conductive interconnection element, which is connected to a grounding grid, causing these interconnections, as new technical effect, the appearance of an electric current that keeps flowing in the conductive loop closed on itself, for powering loads external.«

And given the fact that the Kapanadze transformer in the 2004 video looks doctored like there was an additional coil once wrapped around the existing coil in a previous experiment: Has anyone tried yet parametric resonance with a conductive loop closed on itself?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21171 on: February 21, 2014, 07:18:16 PM »
Hi Grumage,

I know this is really old news.

Akula0083Replication -Grumage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqjTHmmumU

I understand the only missing piece of equipment from your setup was a decent 220volt 50hz sine-wave inverter of around 350watt...500watt for 12volt or 24volt input.
You managed to pull mere 211watt from mains instead of using inverter at around 90% power  to 6 bulb(300watt total) as verified using light box meter via that video.

At around 90% power to 300watt bulbs would that work out to around 270watt output for 211watt input
There is still (270-211)59watt of excess power which wasn't sorted out yet via a efficient sine-wave inverter in order to create a close loop system.Or merely reducing the bulb by 1 would have solve the problem sometime ago but inverter was still the most important requirement.

Did i miss any information along the way.After all it's this video that made me join kapanadze thread. :D

I wonder if you have already tested with 220volt inverter since.

I hope the rest knows what i'm getting at.

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I'm curious do anyone knows of any 12v/24v battery powered inverter which have 3 transformer in it as attached.The most i have seen is one transformer in ups power supply.
I'm planning to get one soon.

Dear Magpwr.

I felt rather flattered that my replication video had inspired you !! And yes now you mention it perhaps there was a minor anomaly !!  My main coil and transformer lie dormant upon my bench !!

I feel that with now, a greater understanding of electrostatic field that maybe my device should not have had the Aluminium lining. It is possible that the internal Tesla style coil freewheeling at it's own frequency was being shielded from allowing the free electrons to add themselves to the current circuit path ??

I think the Akula0083 final stage with the separate Tesla coil was done this way to improve performance.

Please ignore the schematic you posted (ALL). That was an idea of mine and it did not function. I have attached the correct one below.

As to your final question, a slight bit of lateral thinking here !!  Could it be a three phase output inverter ?? Are there such beasts ??

I am heavily involved in other projects at the moment but might just have another stab at my device !!

Cheers Grum.

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21172 on: February 21, 2014, 08:12:14 PM »
Well, that's the difference between to engineering approach and the conceptual approach.

I don't think there's any mileage to be gained by arguing about what an electron is or isn't.
That's the conceptual approach.
In this approach it matters if electric current is only caused by the motion of electrons or something else or both.

The important thing is to understand how we can use this mysterious  effect we call electricity to get energy...
That's the heuristic engineering approach.
In this approach it doesn't matter what electric current is, as long as the relationship I=V/R holds true (...and others)


P.S.
It has already been proven that electrons really exist, but it has not been proven that electrons are the sole carriers of electric current in solid conductors (or majority carriers).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21173 on: February 21, 2014, 08:33:20 PM »

 See this is the problem. If you can not see or do not know what something is then how can you effectively design anything to take advantage of it? YOU CAN'T


 The theories for electrons is just that THEORIES. If you say electrons are responsible for current flow how do you know? How do you design something for something you do not know? Just because you have an equation that seems to be correct but only tells the outcome how could that be correct? Yes it gives you the final answer but it tells you nothing about the process. This is why we have been idling in the electrical field for over 100 years.


 FYI to you all, The electron has not been proven in the least bit. Like I said the closest they have come is to see a shell around the particle That is it. A shell does not = a particle like they describe the electron to be. A shell would be like our planets shell. Energized in the same way as our shell is. Do we say our shell is a single particle?

 Lets look for proof:

 http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/elec11.jpg
 http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/110528-electron2.jpg

 The first picture is a real picture of the shells.

 The second picture is an artistic conception of a whole electron. I would think that it is a better picture of the shell itself around an atom. The Atom has a standing voltage potential and radiates this potential all around and the shell is the electron. Of course this shell could bunch up like in the real picture in picture 1. That would be an electron shell and not an electron as a particle. This would also explain the wave like ability of the "Electron" riding on the shell.

 The standing value of the atom would be it's material and what it gets from space itself, the area it resides in or Ether field. Displacing the Ether field is what would give the atom or particle it's potential value. Which allows the atom to retain a certain amount of charge that sticks to the shell. Charges are real and thats what makes atoms or particles real and solid. The electric field of the atom or particle is what sets up the shell distances and there can be many shells base on the particle or atoms size and potential value.

 Lets look at a few metallic atoms like gold as an example.

 http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/goldatoms.jpg

 Now if we put the second picture from above in place of every dot in this picture you will see how this all works. Charges are like the grease and if there is enough charges in between the atoms it becomes less rigid or in a liquid state. The reason the gold picture looks the way it is, is because they are using a charge gun like in a Television Picture tube. They fire little balls of ball lightning at the atoms and they bounce off the shells and return to a detector. These little balls are much like ball lightning. They are self contained and resemble little tennis balls. Since we can not optically see the atoms we only see the sonar like results and they use a computer to build a grey scale 3d map from the detected returns of the charges. Since charges have their own electric field they can be detected quite easily when going through a loop or hitting a surface detector.

 I could go on and on and follow how this all works but once you get the basic picture you can figure the rest out.

 Back to TK and his devices...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21174 on: February 21, 2014, 09:29:13 PM »
verpies


Do you know how to compute voltage on capacitor after single cycle Ton+Toff in DC boost converter ? Everywhere is only discussed an output voltage in continous operation .

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21175 on: February 21, 2014, 10:11:25 PM »
Dear Magpwr.

I felt rather flattered that my replication video had inspired you !! And yes now you mention it perhaps there was a minor anomaly !!  My main coil and transformer lie dormant upon my bench !!

I feel that with now, a greater understanding of electrostatic field that maybe my device should not have had the Aluminium lining. It is possible that the internal Tesla style coil freewheeling at it's own frequency was being shielded from allowing the free electrons to add themselves to the current circuit path ??

I think the Akula0083 final stage with the separate Tesla coil was done this way to improve performance.

Please ignore the schematic you posted (ALL). That was an idea of mine and it did not function. I have attached the correct one below.

As to your final question, a slight bit of lateral thinking here !!  Could it be a three phase output inverter ?? Are there such beasts ??

I am heavily involved in other projects at the moment but might just have another stab at my device !!

Cheers Grum.

hi Grumage,

Base on Akula video as captured screen shot at 8:36min as attached with comments in it.This is my findings.

Do observe carefully how he ran red wire from bridge rectifier(which is connected to output of inverter) to yoke core at the beginning of video.Do observe estimated number of winding on yoke.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e3RpsEZE14
   
I forgot to mention the word glossy or reflective aluminum tape for the attachment. :D

I think i have seen some other device in youtube where the hv coil\transformer output  is connected to aluminum rod(with gap similar to your setup)
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This is a interesting site which shows the ferrite properties of various yoke core and there is mention of "Ringing" in the table.

http://www.fdk.co.jp/laboratory/ce_hon-e.html

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21176 on: February 21, 2014, 10:26:09 PM »
hi Grumage,

Base on Akula video as captured screen shot at 8:36min as attached with comments in it.This is my findings.

Do observe carefully how he ran red wire from bridge rectifier(which is connected to output of inverter) to yoke core at the beginning of video.It's easy to count winding for yoke which tally with schematic.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e3RpsEZE14
   
I forgot to mention the word glossy or reflective aluminum tape for the attachment. :D

I think i have seen some other device in youtube where the hv coil\transformer output  is connected to aluminum rod(with gap similar to your setup)
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This is a interesting site which shows the ferrite properties of various yoke core and there is mention of "Ringing" in the table.

http://www.fdk.co.jp/laboratory/ce_hon-e.html


 Hey Mag,


 Could he be using the ringing like they do in Tuning forks? Tap it once in awhile and it continues to ring?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21177 on: February 21, 2014, 10:50:48 PM »

 Hey Mag,


 Could he be using the ringing like they do in Tuning forks? Tap it once in awhile and it continues to ring?

hi jbignes5,

It's not the same for yoke. :)

We might able to hear the yoke is ringing at different audible frequency range at times depending on the setup.

This was one of the video i have made using yoke core.Do observe the different sound it made upon starting up.Same setup on 3 inch iron powder toroid produce no ringing effect(not shown in youtube).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRFE-2BWYlI

 


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21178 on: February 21, 2014, 10:50:48 PM »
Dear Magpwr and jbignes5.

Just another piece of a very LARGE puzzle !!

Remember dear GeoFusions original device? The Ferrite squealed. I then went on to looking into this particular area and discovered that a voltage can be detected at that resonance point. In fact I am back in that area of research at the moment.

http://www.overunity.com/14307/acoustic-magnetic-generator/75/#.UwfJdHnitaQ

Although the resonant point of my ferrite halve cores is around 57 KHz there is an audible squeal !! And this is where the maximum voltage is generated on my pickup coil.

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21179 on: February 22, 2014, 01:44:52 AM »
FYI to you all, The electron has not been proven in the least bit. Like I said the closest they have come is to see a shell around the particle That is it.

FYI to you all
The existence of electron has been proven over and over. 
See the list of evidence I had provided in my Reply #16846
Look it up, there are many nice videos and photos listed there.

Jbignes5 is ignoring experimental evidence to suit his preconceptions.
He has failed to refute the experimental evidence and he keeps perpetuating his myths despite that.