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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14720916 times)

Offline energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21105 on: February 17, 2014, 11:22:03 AM »
I'm all for whacky ideas and builds for fun but draw the line at free running claims that are not backed up with good measurement data. Unfortunately, the vast majority videos we see presenting self-runners fall into this category and in consequence are just eye candy designed IMO, simply to draw attention and produce 'hits' for unethical purpose.  :(
this is the fact, those are the ignorant who make others believe they are genuine, this is what they call mind control.
out of ego, out of feelings,  they mix feelings with facts. and the outcome is bad feelings.
none of you will be able to show a self runner. there are many members here who also play the game of stretching time so people believe and praise them longer,  by saying '' i have my info from a good source''  ' and you should listen to 'this and that is the key''  they want to show themselves special out of their own ego. and thus misleading others.
these ''credited members'' will be here for long,   they want free energy from you...

Offline Jack Noskills

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21106 on: February 17, 2014, 01:56:49 PM »
This.
At resonance the input impedance is infinite (open circuit), because the primary winding forms a parallel LC tank with the cap.
The secondary winding forms a series circuit - an important difference.
No, as it was never zero to begin with.
When a resistive load is connected to the secondary winding, the apparent inductance of the primary winding decreases due to reflected secondary impedance caused by mutual inductance and the Lenz law.
As a consequence, the primary LC tank's resonance frequency increases under load.
In other words, the primary LC tank goes off-resonance under load.  This video illustrates this behavior.

Of course, the secondary load in your circuit and in the circuit from the 1st video is not purely resistive (R), but the principle remains.
In those scenarios, when the magnetic coupling is complete (1), the load is a series RC load and when the magnetic coupling is incomplete (<1) the load is a series RLC load.
BTW: Magnetic coupling coefficient (0..1) is related to the mutual inductance.
No :(


P.S.
It shall be emphasized that the brightness of the input light bulb does not indicate the average power drawn from the power source.  It only indicates the average input current.
However, the brightness of the output bulb, does indicate the power dissipated in the output bulb.
Measuring input power and output power with light bulbs is very different due to MPTT.


Thanks, I should have mentioned that core must be closed loop and not a solenoid type. [size=78%]Things change when using closed loop core.[/size]



If same amount of turns and caps is used on a toroid and on a solenoid having same the core size, then resonant frequencies of each should be close to each other. Closed loop magnetic currents cancel each other, only action from the solenoid part of the toroid remains.


I think it would make sense to explore this effect further, or has someone already done it ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21107 on: February 17, 2014, 04:03:07 PM »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21108 on: February 17, 2014, 04:32:06 PM »
thats how you steal power from the mains.  even by connecting a diode with an ac grids grounding, and the other end to a seperate ground , that diode will light up.  i did this many times

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21109 on: February 17, 2014, 04:40:31 PM »
I think it would make sense to explore this effect further, or has someone already done it ?
I don't know of anybody who made a video with closed magnetic cores such as a toroid.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21110 on: February 17, 2014, 05:26:05 PM »
free energy ....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu8P9YiThNU
with this circuit will have galvanic corrosion of hot battery pipes

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21111 on: February 17, 2014, 06:43:56 PM »
free energy ....
(http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/133568/image//)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu8P9YiThNU
Thank you FreeEnergyInfo :)
this is the truth for Tariel Kapanadze princip, and all of its devices: http://realstrannik.ru/forum/80-temy-xname41/117350-xname41.html
let the people know the truth!
« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 09:27:24 PM by x_name41 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21112 on: February 17, 2014, 06:49:00 PM »
Dear All.

I fairly often wonder why some folk are members of this Forum !!

Overunity.Com.  Title. "Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy"

And yet we get folks that act like "The village Bobby"  "Bobby", British slang for Policeman. Whilst there is still a vestige of freedom I personally feel that I am going to play around in my spare time doing as many "Hair brained" experiments as I choose !! Please stop the negativity!! I for one could not care less what you think or say!! Just let those of us that wish to spend our time messing ,get on with it !!

Ok minor rant over !!

Cheers Grum.

Grummage, you do not realize the damage all the false and mistaken claims do ? People get hyped up and forget family to pursue the promise of free energy that never comes. It can break up family and cause severe mental anguish to those who spend a lot of money on a promise then end up with a bench full of stuff and no wife as well as other problems eg. kids.

Me, I'm already single, have been for many years since my back is busted in several places, neck too and I cannot work, I can spend my time however I choose without affecting anyone. I got caught by Bob Boyce and the self charger debacle, as the thread went on another member took on the responsibility to design a non microprocessor signal generator, I on the other hand did some more investigating and came to the conclusion the effect shown by the South African guy was bogus, he was using his coils in the opposite way to what he and Bob had described as well as not showing anything that I could not. Basically the entire thing was bogus from the beginning and they knew it and they lied to promote Bobs stuff. This is when I became aware that the guru's do not even need to peddle their own rubbish anymore, there is a willing army of dupes to promote the rubbish for them for free.

If we count up the consumed hours and money along with the other damage then any free energy device has a lot of work to undo all the damage already done.

I've found that even if I try to post about something I think has potential to be efficient and useful, I get on one side people wanting it to be OU and on the other side I get people trying to prove to me it isn't even though i never claimed it was. People try to put words in my mouth that i did not say.

People also make claims for Tesla that he did not make, either by misunderstanding his words or ascribing their meaning to his words.

While I'm not formerly trained in this area I am a tradesman in a technical trade (although I have not been able to work now for quite some years), I have some background knowledge in metallurgy and also have a lot of experience in mechanics.

It is my opinion that if the false and bogus claims were minimized and more people tried to understand the basics of electronics, as well as power and energy measurement, then things would improve. The more outrageous claims allowed to go unchallenged the further the site/topic goes towards obscurity and the more knowledgeable people will withdraw followed by more people making more outrageous and baseless claims.

I mean how many people post every day, things like " this is OU and that is OU" when they have actually no idea if it is or not because they lack basic power and energy measurement abilities. It's taken me some time to learn how to get fairly accurate measurements of different types of arrangements, and with that come the ability to know if something is making sense or not, and if something requires closer examination or not.

If I ever discover something that can output more energy than it takes to run it I will know it before I post about it.

If people do not want to discuss power and energy in real terms and drift into the realms of "cold electricity" and "negative energy" they ought to expect some flack and be able to explain what they say.

There ought to be a list of common things that trick the novice experimenter. like "the input does not affect the output so it must be OU" unmitigated lies that is. There are many other such silly affirmations that just continue to keep coming up.

Lets be realistic if someone was to post a circuit that actually did produce more energy than it took to run it. And showed it, how can anything any skeptic say make that "not be so".

Skeptics cannot make an OU device not be OU all they can do is point out folly or mistakes or be wrong themselves. I'm glad I seen through the Guru's when I did. Now I can learn and think for myself unmolested.

Just imagine a site like this with no skeptics, no one with power measurement skills and no one will the balls to say what they think. It would be chaos and fantasy wall to wall.

Cheers





« Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 04:25:22 AM by Farmhand »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21113 on: February 17, 2014, 07:50:29 PM »
Farmhand: you have a point.
However, some of us have seen ou and therefore pursue it.
Personally, my advice is never to trust meter measurements.
I have destroyed more meters and inverters than I would like.
The only way to test any device is to run it on caps.
Simple.
If it's ou, the caps will rise in voltage.
You should try the Benitez 4 battery patent.
You have all the skills and all the equipment.
If you want any help then pm me.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21114 on: February 17, 2014, 08:12:29 PM »
Dear Farmhand.

Many thanks for your recent post with many pertinent arguments !!

With hindsight I perhaps got a little "hot-headed" my point was that I do not want folk telling me not to do this or that !! I should also understand that this is a multiracial Forum and be aware that the English language is not always the first. The finer points of which, if not used correctly can seem rude or even offensive!!

Constructive criticism I can deal with, dear Verpies gave me a lot of that in the earlier days. I learned a lot from him! So can others!!

Well back to the back room for more time wasting !!   ;D  It's cheaper than the Pub !!

Cheers Grum.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21115 on: February 17, 2014, 11:51:26 PM »
Personally, my advice is never to trust meter measurements.
Not even HF Wattmeters ?

The only way to test any device is to run it on caps.
Simple.  If it's OU, the caps will rise in voltage.
What if the voltage rises due to dielectric soak ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21116 on: February 17, 2014, 11:53:49 PM »
Not even HF Wattmeters ?
What if the voltage rises due to dielectric soak ?
If it powers a light bulb forever... I LOVE DIELECTRIC SOAK.
If your HF wattmeter says OU then what is to stop one proving it by showing a self runner.
I'll NEVER trust meters in this OU game.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21117 on: February 18, 2014, 01:24:12 AM »
Grummage, you do not realize the damage all the false and mistaken claims do ?
People get hyped up and forget family to pursue the promise of free energy that never comes.
Cheers
Dear Farmhand:
I do not post  often  at recent times.
I want to ensure you that I respect you very much.
You have got your point  right.




There was a time when I directed  many of quite  heavy particle questions to Verpies.
Who ever he is, he is giving me helping hand.
I do not care if he is black, "gringo" or "lesbian" :) however  it is nice to know that he speaks  Polish.
So at least, I know that there is  helping hand willing to help if ever.
But the reality is that he must at first help himself.




You  Farmhand might  not heave not much response  from others ,because  nobody really cares  about you.
This forum is voluntary ,temporary junction  of unknown elements with unknown agenda.
And even if you heave response,  it might be, not in volume, intensity,or level suitable for any further progress
 to be made out of this communication.

But  people are reading your posts and having their own ideas.
The only difference is the they do not care to respond as much .
There are few of us who post here,  the rest is possibly incapable of responding,
 as it takes time to become oriented in area of free energy,
This is university  of its own.


The time pass by, and many of advanced researchers, are fallowing  their own  direction limited to  field of interest.
They are getting better end better in it,and that is why variety of us  concentrated here
on this forum makes us strong.They will still come back as I do.


But when the news strikes, than there is so much movement on this forum.
That I do not heave time to analyze it in depth.
The real split of the forum,   into single independent, money oriented ,selfish, greedy elements will be made when
there  will be  repeatable concept publish.Yes the forum  will be crowdy  for cheap, easy lift for free.
From that point  there will be no longer forum at its form- And that is what I do not like at all.




So knowing that nobody  gives  damn about me( or to be more precise:
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No One Gives S.it About me...............

I can see some of  good  benefit of me being here.
1. I feel safer but not safe.
2. I do not feel alienated in my proceedings, goals, hopes.
3. I have  chance of someone to respond and by that I'm getting ideas.
4. By me trying to save world I can see that I'm not so much an idiot as I look I'm.
People are nice to me - for their own hopes, fears, or  just because they like me in this particular moment in time.
5.If ever FE will get wings in crowd there is safe place to be  as "they" can not kill everyone.


So Farmhand my Friend
You adding your little of something to library of hope and at the end we have micro society on non idiots, or not as much idiots.
Look around you, How many people, are at level of consumption and day to day cheap entertainment.
Simple brains of simple needs ,brainwashed members of crowd manipulated  by media -own by rich and powerful .
some of  brainwash slogans:
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-Come to us and save. 
Answer: Do not come, do not spend,  and by that you  save


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-We give you better mortgage:
Answer: There is no such thing as better mortgage, The more independent you are the better  mortgage you get.


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-Use our credit cards 0% interest. you need credit score so you need to use credit cards
.
Answer:
No credit cards or if ever  than only one  never used and annually charge free .You do not need good score.
 Bloodsuckers need to know that they can suck you  up in the future.


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-Fashion:The best man suits here, come and save.


Answer: They change  fashion as they need  people to spend money for it.
 And  "No man" will   unload his suit collection  voluntarily.
And shoes are being made: to look good and have short life.


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With that.
I'm not watching TV for years now as this is waste of time.My wife (-master of psychology) does not   watch TV as well.
Education and information is on the internet  for free( no monthly fees)
(and no commercial  for 50 minutes+10 minutes of crowd amusement per hour)
Movies are on internet too- that is enough for us two.
The reality in  $1400 per year stays in mu pocket, not spend for CATV.




How  to build society of  high consumption, low perception, easily manipulated crowd:

People wasting their own potential  not because they are flat brain creatures but because life made them losing  their own chances for better life.
So much of human potential washed out.
They got ideas and next  they know -is the rent, the mortgages, the credit cards and needs of their wife and children becoming their first reality .




I drifted heavily to  particle acceleration and nuclear physics.
If I could I would be giving you your FE tomorrow , question is  could I.
the answer is yes I could.


So why not tomorrow.?
Answer: Because I can not build the  Colman device and sacrifice myself.I'm not such stupid.
For what?
For crowd?
Some stupid popcorn eaters?
That is not the good reason to die, or suffer health problems.
However there are valuable members of the crowd in opinion.Educated or willing to be educated in any  possible area: music, art ,science, and so on.
And for that group of people I want to work at most.
At the same time I need to heave tools to measure  and see processes I'm experimenting with.


At very end
Nobody gives a S..t to help me out financially,or with equipment, nor I ask for it.


1.So for some  of you guys wait and see the results if I would be given to be the one who delivers.
2.There are Many  ways to  build FE and all of them works ,Nuclear, Electrostatic, mechanical and magnetic- or mix of them.
3. I have seen FE working and it works
-Lithuania Experiment
-TK presentation
-Colman


or
I'm delusional.
                However
                        My wife (as master educated psychological evaluator) is my shrink and she says I'm OK.







4. There is no free lunch, energy must come from somewhere and be converted to usable form of energy
5. Free Energy is any form of energy - that is free of charge.





Wesley 

















 
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Offline magpwr

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21118 on: February 18, 2014, 03:18:32 AM »
free energy ....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu8P9YiThNU

hi FreeEnergyInfo,

Thanks for the posting.It does helps with building up my creativity.

I do see a useful potential with this finding with enough power to charge/trickle charge handphone once you get  regulated 5volt supply. :D :D
Only on condition the "power station" is still up and running and it should work even if the electricity to our home is switched off or  tripped maybe via circuit breaker,not pay bills on time  or in worst case where "power out from power transformer" in a certain area got tripped or switched off for some reason eg:maintenance work.

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To everyone,

As usual i don't recommend anyone without sufficient electrical knowledge and start "Dabbling with high voltage" .
You may get electrocuted or even killed by lighting.I shall not be held responsible because of my 2 cent worth of creative advise. :-[

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21119 on: February 18, 2014, 05:12:36 AM »
If it powers a light bulb forever... I LOVE DIELECTRIC SOAK.
If your HF wattmeter says OU then what is to stop one proving it by showing a self runner.
I'll NEVER trust meters in this OU game.

No need to trust meter if you don't want to, who needs a meter if you can get a light bulb to power another light bulb.

Or if you can get one motor to power another motor with no connection to any power source, there is no need for a meter.

We don't need meters to use power only to measure it.

Funny thing is a lot of people are making claims of OU based on meter readings. It is meter readings that determine how much your utility company will charge you for the power you consume.

Luckily for underwater divers, pilots and so forth meters are available and very useful. With meters it's not the meter or it's failings that cause problems it the user and the conclusions, is where the problems come from.

I seen a magician guy (apparently) levitating, but was he levitating or was it an illusion ?  I don't need a meter or a hoola hoop to pass around him before I can say it is an illusion. It's obvious. What I find funny is there are actually people who do believe the magicians can levitate and cut people in half and put them back together. Truly hilarious.

Cheers