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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14720814 times)

Offline DilJalaay

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21030 on: February 06, 2014, 10:02:12 AM »
Hello and good day,
Thanks for the posting great stuff.


Here what i found.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmqrOZZ7Xc


A man doing this with 3 batteries.
He said that he upload other videos.


But i did not find it. Can some one Link more videos from this guy?


Thanks and regards.

D.J

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21031 on: February 06, 2014, 12:20:30 PM »
Right... but whether your arrows represent one flow or the other (and I thought we had decided ground to positive was the common direction for an arrow)  In one drawing your arrow is with the diode, and the other it's against the diode, so again it couldn't reach that potential...


and since the circuit does work; maybe it's that the current doesn't reverse in the coil...
The current goes against the diode, voltage with the diode, neither change direction, I know this is not the accepted theory and it may be wrong but it helps me understand the reactions of a coil.

When we pulse a coil in just and ordinary transformer we'r hitting the coil 180 degree's out of phase(each side of the coil winding) with 120 cycles but the voltage on the scope shows 60 cycles with a 90 degree phase shift and the current also has a 90 degree phase shift at 60 cycles, a coil separates voltage and amperage or pos and neg however you want to look at it.

These are just observations and probably arent correct but I will entertain this view and the classical view, I believe it pays to be open minded in my search.

I know I'll get trashed over this post but Im just stating what some are thinking and you see Im just an old country boy my tenure was up along time ago  ;D lol

Im not afraid to be wrong I have nothing to prove
Some of us are smart and some just have common sense
Lets keep up the search

Evil prevails when good men do nothing.

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21032 on: February 06, 2014, 03:54:04 PM »
example:  40; 80; 120; 500; 1000 kHz
99.3% attenuation skin depth for Tungsten (Wolfram):

  40kHz: 3.0mm
  80kHz: 2.1mm
120kHz: 1.7mm
500kHz: 0.8mm
   1MHz: 0.6mm

Offline d3x0r

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21033 on: February 06, 2014, 04:04:13 PM »
The current goes against the diode, voltage with the diode, neither change direction, I know this is not the accepted theory and it may be wrong but it helps me understand the reactions of a coil.

When we pulse a coil in just and ordinary transformer we'r hitting the coil 180 degree's out of phase(each side of the coil winding) with 120 cycles but the voltage on the scope shows 60 cycles with a 90 degree phase shift and the current also has a 90 degree phase shift at 60 cycles, a coil separates voltage and amperage or pos and neg however you want to look at it.

These are just observations and probably arent correct but I will entertain this view and the classical view, I believe it pays to be open minded in my search.

I know I'll get trashed over this post but Im just stating what some are thinking and you see Im just an old country boy my tenure was up along time ago  ;D lol

Im not afraid to be wrong I have nothing to prove
Some of us are smart and some just have common sense
Lets keep up the search

Evil prevails when good men do nothing.
What really gets me, is I was the one to told to 'stop spouting nonsense' when I first attempted to correct this...
might as well be 'don't confuse the situation with facts'
If you keep insisting on the current reversing on a coil, I don't know how you can make any forward progress, since real observations will never align with your imagined framework

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21034 on: February 06, 2014, 04:43:18 PM »
The restated question is this: Is the COP of a transformer always the same regardless whether the source and the load are connected at the same time (to the primary and secondary coil) or is the COP lower or higher when the load is not connected at the same time the source is connected (by means of toggle transistors)?
IMO opinion the true transformer mode is more efficient than the discontinuous flyback "transformer" mode of energy transfer, because in the discontinuous flyback mode, the current spends more time circulating in resistive windings, incurring more tRI2 energy losses.

On the other hand, the current in the primary winding is lower in the discontinuous flyback mode (rises more slowly due to lack of reflected secondary impedance).
It would be interesting to read what TinselKoala thinks about the efficiency comparison of these two modes of energy transfer.

When a magnet moves through a non-connected coil then this magnet generates a voltage difference between both endings of the coil's wire.
Yes, but getting the magnet to move requires work.
Also, voltage alone does not constitute power not energy.

If the voltage developed across this coil is offered a conductive path and allowed to cause current flow, then the magnet will be braked :(

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21035 on: February 06, 2014, 04:52:30 PM »
What really gets me, is I was the one to told to 'stop spouting nonsense' when I first attempted to correct this..
If you keep insisting on the current reversing on a coil, I don't know how you can make any forward progress, since real observations will never align with your imagined framework
"stop spewing nonsense" is not a valid form of scientific argumentation.  It is an Ad Hominem remark that's a typical characteristic of rude and ignorant people.

The "back EMF" or "inductive kickback" does not cause the reversal of the current flowing in the inductor before an attempt to interrupt this current.
It is a common misconception reinforced by the word "back" and the lack of realization, that the "inductive kick catch diode" is connected in parallel with the inductor - not in series, relative to the power supply.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21036 on: February 06, 2014, 06:24:01 PM »
Dear All.

I have just tried to log in at Energetic Forum and have been met with Go Daddy !!

Is anyone else having the same problem ??

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21037 on: February 06, 2014, 06:43:12 PM »
yes, me too
other people from other countries report the same all around

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21038 on: February 06, 2014, 07:02:49 PM »
Dear All.

I have just tried to log in at Energetic Forum and have been met with Go Daddy !!

Is anyone else having the same problem ??

Cheers Grum.


EnergeticForum.com - probably just an oversight of the owner.  :P

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Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21039 on: February 06, 2014, 07:25:17 PM »
If the voltage developed across this coil is offered a conductive path and allowed to cause current flow, then the magnet will be braked :(

What exactly is a conductive path? If we capture the electrons from ground, then route them through a load and then give them back to ground, is this considered as a conductive path?

When we pulse a coil in just and ordinary transformer we'r hitting the coil 180 degree's out of phase(each side of the coil winding) with 120 cycles but the voltage on the scope shows 60 cycles with a 90 degree phase shift and the current also has a 90 degree phase shift at 60 cycles, a coil separates voltage and amperage or pos and neg however you want to look at it.

My today's theory goes as follows: When a coil is shorted the magnetic field in the core collapses very fast (when disconnected from source) therefore the coil (or a second coil on the same core) attracts additional electrons from ground (or a metallic object), then these electrons are able to boost the current in the load circuit. That theory sounds rather simple, so what's still the problem?

Actually the SR193 wiring does not make any sense (yet). What are we missing here? The two thyristors or transistors or triacs (?!) are connected with only two thick white wires (anodes or A2 to transformer?). All other wires are thin. Assumed that these are triacs then the question is, are all TO220 triac pin-outs in the A1 A2 G order or are there also triac pin-outs in G A2 A1 order? 

Interesting coincidence by the way: The connection theory of my basic transformer circuit looks like the transformer of the 00135 device which looks like a line filter coil which looks like the two filter coils of the Steven Mark TPU. Hmm ...

Are we perhaps close to the solution or rather close to the madhouse? ::) ???

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21040 on: February 06, 2014, 09:16:05 PM »
Zeitmaschine


I think we are right at the solution. Exactly. Just connect all dots. Those two Russian devices , smaller one powering two leds and bigger giving 105W show clearly the requirement of ground. Back to Tesla and connect all dot even if they might look crazy. Simple is made looking crazy to create fairy tale...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21041 on: February 06, 2014, 11:11:58 PM »
  For those interested:
  Energetic Forum is back on, so I guess that they must have renewed their domain.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21042 on: February 07, 2014, 12:00:04 AM »
Simple is made looking crazy to create fairy tale...

Gorgeous! I was on to this tale on page 943, mainly not because of the coil but because of the capacitors. :(

What is the most prominent feature of this transformer? It is the striking symmetry of its coils. Thus it could be used as a huge line filter coil. And does that mean we have found one more piece in the puzzle? Not step-up not step-down, but we need a 1:1 isolation transformer?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21043 on: February 07, 2014, 12:53:36 AM »
What exactly is a conductive path? If we capture the electrons from ground, then route them through a load and then give them back to ground, is this considered as a conductive path?
I don't understand. I'd need to see a schematic for this setup.
Conductive path is a path of low resistance.

When a coil is shorted the magnetic field in the core collapses very fast (when disconnected from source) therefore the coil (or a second coil on the same core...
You were not paying attention:
When an inductor is opened, the magnetic field collapses very fast.
When an inductor is shorted, the magnetic field collapses very slow.

When a capacitor is shorted, the electric field collapses very fast.
When a capacitor is opened, the electric field collapses very slow.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21044 on: February 07, 2014, 01:15:24 AM »
I don't understand. I'd need to see a schematic for this setup.
Conductive path is a path of low resistance.

I too would like to see a schematic for this setup. That's why we are here. :D

When an inductor is opened, the magnetic field collapses very fast.
When an inductor is shorted, the magnetic field collapses very slow.

If we open and short an inductor continuously then I don't know if that really matters. Important is a fast collapsing magnetic field (I think). So when the primary coil of a transformer (or maybe better the coil one) is shorted and the coil two builds up a magnetic field then what happens to the magnetic field when coil one is opened? Does it collapse very fast?