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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16505938 times)

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20970 on: February 04, 2014, 01:20:31 AM »
admin:" Thyristor is not suitable for a number of reasons ... "

Not suitable for what? A simple oscillator? But we don't look for a simple oscillator, we rather look for a parametric oscillator. That's different stuff.

Actually a flickering spark gap is not suitable for a steady shining lamp. Nevertheless people keep experimenting with spark gaps. ::)

BTW, if the spark is distraction then we can safely assume that the high voltage generator inclusive the flyback, the driving transistor and the high frequency oscillator is also just distraction (Stepanov does not need this). That leaves us with two thyristors, two capacitors, a transformer and -maybe- a third capacitor.

Interesting, isn't it?

Now we should look how to connect two thyristors to a transformer the conventional way and then we should make the appropriate connection mistake on purpose.

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« Reply #20971 on: February 04, 2014, 07:01:21 AM »
Not suitable for what? A simple oscillator? But we don't look for a simple oscillator, we rather look for a parametric oscillator. That's different stuff.

A simple oscillator is in my mind when i see kapa 2004 vid.

Actually a flickering spark gap is not suitable for a steady shining lamp. Nevertheless people keep experimenting with spark gaps. ::)

Dally's nano pulser can be use as SG? no?

BTW, if the spark is distraction then we can safely assume that the high voltage generator inclusive the flyback, the driving transistor and the high frequency oscillator is also just distraction (Stepanov does not need this). That leaves us with two thyristors, two capacitors, a transformer and -maybe- a third capacitor.

Interesting, isn't it?

 Indeed

Now we should look how to connect two thyristors to a transformer the conventional way and then we should make the appropriate connection mistake on purpose.

Goodluck for us  :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20972 on: February 04, 2014, 09:30:30 AM »
I can't find it anymore, but somewhere, a time ago, I read an anecdote that Kapanadze found the operation principle of his device because of an error he made. So what error could that have been?

Since I can't see any proof that the parts on the heat sinks (Kapanadze and SR193) are definitely transistors then what could be the outcome if we assume that these parts are thyristors? Because of 220V, 50Hz, transformers, coils and capacitors I would tend to say these are thyristors rather than transistors. And according to my research the pin-out of thyristors in TO220 component package are always in K A G order. Also Stepanov shows us some thyristors connected to two capacitors.

The correct way to connect two thyristors inverse-parallel is to connect the anode of one thyristor to the cathode of the other thyristor and vice versa and then to connect both gates to two capacitors and/or a switching circuit (right-hand of the illustration).

Now in the SR193 setup I can see an »error«. Here the pins of the thyristors are obviously confused. The gate of the first thyristor is connected to the cathode of the second thyristor and vice versa and both anodes are connected to the capacitors (left-hand of the illustration). The anodes are the »gates« and the cathodes are inverse-parallel connected with the real gates, that means the anodes and gates of both thyristors are swapped. The result is an arrangement which has five connection pins. So what could happen if we connect these five pins to an ordinary 50Hz transformer the right way or maybe better the »wrong« way? Could we perhaps get a transformer in state of resonance, like Kapanadze, Stepanov and SR193?

Let me know ... :)

hi Zeitmaschine,

I had tried to replicate the SR193 but without success late last year.
Please refer to attachment-
1)The 50HZ frequency modulation shown in attachment  "SR 193 free energy" don't make sense at all.I used a transformer which output 12volt A/C in place of the circuit but nothing noted.
2)Refer to SR193-digitally enhanced done by me on my findings on number of turns.
3)The SR193 hand drawn original base on circuit diagram layout it can be a possible thyristors as you describe.
4)I think i have discovered base on your attachment there is coaxial cable likely used as capacitors "SR193 SRC"

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20973 on: February 04, 2014, 11:31:01 AM »
@Zeit, just a small point, you have said many times that spark gap does not give steady light, sorry but almost all my experiments with spark gaps give steady light, even when the spark gap is poor and fluctuating the bulbs are still steady just the brightness varies.
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Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20974 on: February 04, 2014, 02:20:37 PM »
even when the spark gap is poor and fluctuating the bulbs are still steady just the brightness varies.

There is no variation in brightness of the bulbs during the Kapanadze demonstrations. It is a steady brightness like connected to grid. ::)

1)The 50HZ frequency modulation shown in attachment  "SR 193 free energy" don't make sense at all.I used a transformer which output 12volt A/C in place of the circuit but nothing noted.

A transistor push-pull stage with single voltage supply does not need two capacitors to connect to a coil (or a speaker which also is a coil). So the two capacitors must be there for a different reason. The size of these capacitors also suggests that they run on low frequency (like 50Hz). For high frequency they could be much smaller (ceramic type not electrolytic).

2)Refer to SR193-digitally enhanced done by me on my findings on number of turns.

That blue coil actually does nothing, except it works like an extension cord on a cable drum. On the other hand all the connections of the 50Hz transformer below are carefully hidden. Guess why.

3)The SR193 hand drawn original base on circuit diagram layout it can be a possible thyristors as you describe.

There are errors in that diagram. See the question marks.

4)I think i have discovered base on your attachment there is coaxial cable likely used as capacitors "SR193 SRC"

I'm still not sure if coaxial cable has something to do with that. That idea is based on an anecdote saying Kapanadze asked for coaxial cable.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20975 on: February 04, 2014, 03:32:10 PM »

The "what if" game could go on forever....  Actually it has,  1400 pages seems like forever  :)

Here's a new one.  "What if" TK went to replace one of the 2 transistors but grabbed a thyristor instead and ended up with one transistor and one thyrister.

The mystery continues....
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20976 on: February 04, 2014, 03:49:05 PM »
He definitely complained about lack of coax. However an analysis of his cable reveals that it is HV. So HV coax???

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« Reply #20977 on: February 04, 2014, 04:13:48 PM »
He definitely complained about lack of coax. However an analysis of his cable reveals that it is HV. So HV coax???

Extract from Spellman Corp FAQ: -

RG8-U has long been used as a high voltage output cable in the high voltage industry. There is a variation of RG8-U that utilizes a solid polyethylene core. Specifications for this cable do not specify actual "high voltage" ratings, since this cable was not designed and fabricated with high voltage usage in mind. So the reality is, there are no high voltage ratings for RG8-U. Over the years others in the HV industry have used this cable at 20kV, 30kV and even higher voltages. Spellman does use RG8-U cable, but limits it usage to applications where the maximum voltage that will be applied to the cable is 8kV or less.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20978 on: February 04, 2014, 05:02:05 PM »
The "what if" game could go on forever....  Actually it has,  1400 pages seems like forever  :)

Yes, it does go on! I found a thyristor with swapped G - K pins. The result if one thyristor is K A G and one is G A K looks like the diagram below. :D

He definitely complained about lack of coax. However an analysis of his cable reveals that it is HV. So HV coax???

So maybe Kapanadze needed coax for the hoax? He needed HV (coax) cable just for the high voltage spark distraction but not for the real working part of the device? ???

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« Reply #20979 on: February 04, 2014, 05:07:23 PM »
No, Kapanadze was worried that he could not meet the deadline, and his regular supplier didn't have the coax. There was also a shortage in Tbilisi at that time - probably due to the recent Russian invasion of his country.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20980 on: February 04, 2014, 05:09:52 PM »
I am going to be negative here.  That new magnet motor generator video on the home page is very shady.  It does not have the speed or strength to run all that stuff.  I mean he has a spring turning the shaft.  Or am I missing something.  Its like trusting those guys from India that make free energy devices like this one in the linked video of a power strip plugged into itself and started with a pizeo lighter..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skAePZGgpAA&list=PLshebR0s6b5aa429SnBvqqMC1S7IxsXIz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20981 on: February 04, 2014, 05:20:48 PM »
I am going to be negative here.  That new magnet motor generator video on the home page is very shady.  It does not have the speed or strength to run all that stuff.  I mean he has a spring turning the shaft.  Or am I missing something.  Its like trusting those guys from India that make free energy devices like this one in the linked video of a power strip plugged into itself and started with a pizeo lighter..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skAePZGgpAA&list=PLshebR0s6b5aa429SnBvqqMC1S7IxsXIz

No you are not missing anything because the 'genny' is placing very little load on the motor and it is outputting naff all to the load because it is not a real genny!  ;D Yet another example of smoke and mirrors.  :(

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20982 on: February 04, 2014, 05:32:17 PM »
Magnet motors. The principle of operation is to negate the repulsive force of opposing magnets at the sticking point.
This is done by interposing a thin piece of iron or steel or other magnetizable material. This has the effect of turning repulsion into attraction.  This sort of device is almost  impossibly hard to tune manually, requiring factory grade precision.
I have been told that the Bedini diagram does not work by one source. Another source has said that it works but only very slowly.
Either way, the principle is there.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20983 on: February 04, 2014, 05:54:24 PM »
You will _never_ see the "magnet motor" part of the thing running by itself, without the "generator" or anything else attached. \
He could easily do that with compressed air or AC coils underground that move the magnets in the rotor.  The lack of audio surely would help the former.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20984 on: February 04, 2014, 06:11:08 PM »
Magnet motors. The principle of operation is to negate the repulsive force of opposing magnets at the sticking point.
This is done by interposing a thin piece of iron or steel or other magnetizable material. This has the effect of turning repulsion into attraction.  This sort of device is almost  impossibly hard to tune manually, requiring factory grade precision.
I have been told that the Bedini diagram does not work by one source. Another source has said that it works but only very slowly.
Either way, the principle is there.

You are wrong. You might as well say that gravity motors have a principle of operation that only needs negative-friction bearings in order to work, or that flying pigs have a principle of operation that only needs them to be born with wings.

This "sort of device" has never been shown to work, not even "very slowly". The drawing, which claims that it will work, is a well-known lie. No amount of "factory grade precision" can ever make it work as claimed.

A "principle" that is fictitious and contrary to natural laws might be included in a drawing -- you see that every day on this forum. That is very different from showing that it will work.