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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14731410 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20595 on: January 12, 2014, 06:42:06 PM »
current creates a magnetic field,
Yes, but magnetic field is a vectorial quantity - not scalar.  This means that it also has a direction in addition to magnitude.

if we have a coil with 3 amps running through it wouldnt the same coil have a larger magnetic field with 7 amps running through it.
Yes.

...this would increase its magnetic field...
No
Why not ?
Because magnetic fields oriented in opposite directions don't add up to a larger sum.

When analyzing transformers you must consider the vectorial sum of the magnetic field created by the electric current flowing in the primary winding as well as the magnetic field created by the current flowing in the secondary winding.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20596 on: January 12, 2014, 06:59:23 PM »
its fundamental things guys..
i belive current go from ground, when TK said "ground can be replacet by circuit" then "circuit" means some plate from aluminium or copper, or big selfinduction coil.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20597 on: January 12, 2014, 07:22:22 PM »
its fundamental things guys..
i belive current go from ground, when TK said "ground can be replacet by circuit" then "circuit" means some plate from aluminium or copper, or big selfinduction coil.
TK told me the "circuit" could be the negative terminal of a car battery.
In other words he told me the ground wire could be terminated  on the negative terminal of a car battery instead of ground.
This is pure Tesla.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20598 on: January 12, 2014, 07:25:17 PM »
@Farmhand and Dave45, quickly tried motor with fourcontacts on end, sort of rotary switch. Set it up as Tesla with shorting coil on secondary of first transformer, all going well as 500watts of bulbs start to brighten up, however the back emf in first transformer gets in sync with the motor driving the rotary switch and within seconds the motor and all my circuit went up in flames. So this may be reason for driving with oil or keeping well isolated. Before the motor experiment I was trying IGBTs for shorting but could not get them to switch cleanly at all they just turn on as frequency increases to anything useful. Unfortunately I left them (3 parrallel) connected on one side of circuit when playing with motor they all exploded in flames with the rest of wiring and components. After todays playing I am sure that shorting coils is the answer.
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Pleas, please post this circuit. It is vital we analyze it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20599 on: January 12, 2014, 07:45:01 PM »
Yes, but magnetic field is a vectorial quantity - not scalar.  This means that it also has a direction in addition to magnitude.
Yes.
Why not ?

Because magnetic fields oriented in opposite directions don't add up to a larger sum.

When analyzing transformers you must consider the vectorial sum of the magnetic field created by the electric current flowing in the primary winding as well as the magnetic field created by the current flowing in the secondary winding.

Its the secondary being shorted so the shorted current should travel in the same direction as the original current flow, magnetic field should be the same orientation, should kick the field right at the peak.

Iv seen your posts and highly respect your opinion but still gonna try  ;)
We need a power oscillator like the mazilli circuit but instead of zero point switching we need a circuit that switches peak to peak.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20600 on: January 12, 2014, 07:50:58 PM »
@a.King21.Hi yes I will do a sketch when I get in to work in the morning as I am just leaving home ( I work away all week). One very important thing I noticed with my circuit is that putting a load on output coil reduced the wattage consumed or did not alter draw. 350w adding 100w bulb still the same, tried several times on and off, providing the bulb was put on secondary off Tesla coil.
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Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20601 on: January 12, 2014, 08:34:50 PM »
Its the secondary being shorted so the shorted current should travel in the same direction as the original current flow,
No, according to the Lenz Law the current in a shorted secondary winding of a transformer will flow in the opposite direction to the current flowing in the primary winding in order to maintain (freeze) the magnetic flux in the transformer's core at a constant level.

I've seen your posts and highly respect your opinion but still gonna try  ;)
An appeal to authority does not constitute a scientific proof, so by all means - do try, however while you're at it, please keep track of your winding directions and directions of currents flowing in these windings. 
...and please - do not confuse voltage measurements made across these windings with measurements of current flowing through these windings.

BTW: Itsu has already made 10 videos about the shorting of an inductor at the peak of a sine wave.  See here.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20602 on: January 12, 2014, 09:21:46 PM »
The coil should be shorted at the high and low peak. Iv only watched 4 and 5, got to get back to work, I will watch his vids tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGieOdkZIN4

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20603 on: January 12, 2014, 10:15:07 PM »
The coil should be shorted both at the high and low peak. I've only watched 4 and 5,
He shows both in his other videos.

It is also evident from his videos that the magnetic flux in the core of his inductor is not increased by this shorting.  At best - it is maintained, just like the Lenz law predicts.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20604 on: January 12, 2014, 10:42:33 PM »
This one time at band camp, oh sorry wrong story. heheh, This one Art teacher I had at school was the (lots of lines type) sketch artist for the beginning of painted works of Art, He gave us very good advice, he said in nature there are no straight lines and when we sketch if we make a lot of lines then there is more chance that the correct lines will be drawn and they will stand out so we could then make the correct darkened outlines and shadings lines and such, he said it would be totally impossible to just draw the right line without other lines for reference. So too with opinions, when the truth is there it should stand out and be visible above the rest of the "lines" as the right line.

The patent itself tells us what it's purpose is, to read them we must "get into old time person speak" which at times can carry over to my posts without me realizing it.  :-[

Zeitmachine, you are right it can be a rotary switch, there is no reason why not except engineering, but in this case the device is a spark gap. A rotary switch generally has a drum with conductive segments to produce a smooth running surface for the brushes and the brushes have positive pressure on them, not protruding electrodes and vanes doubling as a rotating shorting bar.

My own high speed rotary spark gap has such a narrow spacing to reduce the gap resistance that when it gets hot the electrodes actually touch the shorting bars and it kind of becomes a rotary switch. But with a rotary switch there is positive pressure between the electrodes and the drum to reduce sparking/arcing.

At the end of the second video below you can hear the shorting bars begin to touch the electrodes due to expansion from the heat. Which does not really change the operation much in itself. If the electrodes were kept cool the touching would be avoided and finer adjustment would be possible. To spin that rotor in oil would take a lot more power, much better to use the oil flow to turn the rotor of the gap/switch/interrupter.

Spark gap design ( since upgraded to double break rate ) if wanted by the placement of another set of electrodes out of phase with the existing ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5RoVOlenRQ

Spark gap in operation touches when too finely adjusted. ( this is powered by rectified grid voltage with a DC resonant charging circuit) but it could chop AC too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nkJtrKCdFg

Basically a spark gap is a switch they are more or less the same thing, they interrupt the current.

Now without using two line filters, a ballast coil on the input and tuning the HV Supply transformers to near resonance with 40 uf the Watt meter at the wall won't read the input power properly due to transients on the lines, I also don't let any sparks to ground, ie the spark is between two HV conductors one positive one negative the spark does not go to a grounded conductor. I did those things in an attempt to reduce the effects on sensitive equipment connected to the grid and the ground. With some success.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20605 on: January 13, 2014, 01:20:37 AM »
Nice rotary gap I like the design, you do good work Farmhand.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20606 on: January 13, 2014, 01:55:49 AM »
He shows both in his other videos.

It is also evident from his videos that the magnetic flux in the core of his inductor is not increased by this shorting.  At best - it is maintained, just like the Lenz law predicts.


Itsu is not coil shorting correctly.
The resistance has to be less than 0.005 ohms between collector and emitter or drain - source.
Ismael Aviso is VERY CLEAR on this. So unless someone replicates Aviso correctly I am taking no notice - because it is bad science.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20607 on: January 13, 2014, 04:36:43 AM »
That Tesla patent  514,168 MEANS FOR GENERATING ELECTRIC CURRENTS and the rest are all run with a basic process that can be made many different ways to produce the same effect.  When Tesla is referring to frequency in those patents and his articles.  He is talking about Impulse frequency created from DC Voltage.  He is not using AC energy to create the currents of high frequency and Potential.  If you are looking into that patent and trying to short coils, you need to stick to the main laws for the production of those high potential currents.  Impulse waves of high frequency and potential come from Tesla observing the HV DC Linemen working for Edison.  At the moment of switch closure between the HVDC Generators and the Long High Resistance lines, the radiant spikes would jump from the moment of switch closure and go into the man doing the switching and usually kill him.  The Radiant blue spike energy would stop when the currents started to flow thru the wires.  So resonance must be observed or when the make and breaks of the switch are made and the current gets destroyed in the circuit, it will not create the excess energy you search for.  All these Tesla patents, plus a few not posted all work on Resonant DC Switching.  Spark Gap quenching was one key that was needed to keep currents from going back thru the circuit or primary wire and destroy the generation of these excess energy's.  Use HV Diodes to help and a well blown out spark gap.  Magnetic quench is not needed, but greatly magnifies the output.


http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-462,418-electrical-conversion-distribution
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-514,168-generating-electric-currents
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-568,178-regulating-high-frequency-currents
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-568,176-producing-high-frequency-currents

Dave
You sound like your on your way to the boneyard.  Good Job and don't give up.  Unidirectional DC Current. But you dont want BEMF or oscillations..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20608 on: January 13, 2014, 08:42:56 AM »
If you have oscillations you have AC inside and with AC you have reactive power except on one very stupid case nobody could imagine....Ask yourself what is the cause of reactive power, what allow it to be taken into consideration...then you maybe find something extraordinary when there is no reactive power or rather when all reactive power is used to do work...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20609 on: January 13, 2014, 09:21:48 AM »
Itsu is not coil shorting correctly.
The resistance has to be less than 0.005 ohms between collector and emitter or drain - source.
Ismael Aviso is VERY CLEAR on this. So unless someone replicates Aviso correctly I am taking no notice - because it is bad science.
No, "bad science" is doing something without an understanding why it matters.