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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14379678 times)

Offline pepsimaxzu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20580 on: January 11, 2014, 08:46:35 PM »
This guy recons he's figured Kapanadze out:
http://www.energyscienceforum.com/showthread.php?t=960&page=12&p=12133#post12133
if you think this:
"STAGE 1 :
The pulsed DC current enters the primary of the MOT and induces a magnetic field in the core .
STAGE 2 :
The pulsating magnetic field induces a current in the secondary of the MOT. This is the stage where the free energy is generated in the form of PLASMA.
STAGE 3 :
The pulsed DC HV current enters the spark gap and is transformed into AC sine wave of high frequency and potential. In the spark gap energy is not created - it is only transformed into another type of wave. The spark gap is a transformer !
STAGE 4 :
The AC current formed to this point is a HV current and is unusable to run most of the AC electric devices. Here the current enters the KAPACOIL with iron core and after that the filters. In this stage the voltage is stepped down to usable 220 volt current - lamps light , heaters heat etc.
STAGE 5 :
The current enters the high power transistors and is again transformed into a pulsed DC current to enter again the primary of the MOT.
Is it a resonant circuit ? Well , it is a self resonant circuit and it resonates with the load as well. Tom , you may sleep happy , there is resonance involved
Now you can see why most of the people don`t succeed in making a KAPAGEN. If you miss a stage of transformation or if you don`t TUNE some of the transformers in the system right , you end up with empty hands and a mind full of questions 
Stay safe .
Petio"
this is nonsense.. kapagen never work and never will be. MOTS are useless for free energy and very dangerous.

iam truly sorry but if we have some chance for replicate TK device then only way is 2004 video. May Gb but there is more srange things, like nervous nonmoveable guy with black wire in hand, or wire connected to water pipe near ground.
in others videos is 99% smoke and mirrors..

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20581 on: January 12, 2014, 04:30:02 AM »
There is also no spark gap. F is simply a rotary switch driven by oil (in the absence of transistors or tubes).

The connection of the coil S is drawn in the same strange two-wire way like the coils in that Kapanadze patent.

Now if we wind a coil with coaxial cable then how to depict this coil graphically in a schematic? What would be the symbol for that?

If the coil S would be a coaxial cable then the inner conductor would be connected to the two capacitors (acting as an ordinary secondary coil) and the shielding would be connected to the rotary switch. Hence what could happen when that shielding is short-circuited with high frequency?

Since »G represents an electric generator, as for instance, an ordinary alternator« there would be high voltage with low frequency in the secondary coils S. The capacitors will not conduct that low frequency but only the high frequency generated by shorting the shielding-coil S.

Conclusion: Some unexpected things could happen. :)

Hint: P and S is not immersed in oil, so obviously no cooling is needed on the input side but on the output side.

This is the patent we are referring to. http://www.google.com/patents/US514168

Yes there is a spark gap, I suggest reading the patent, the rotating part (turbine) is part of the spark gap, and rotates at a speed relative to the flow of oil, this means the arc discharge rate is relative to the volume of cooling oil and so when more power at higher frequency is used more oil needs to be pumped, thus ensuring adequate cooling, the spark gap is powered by the flow of oil.

To increase the breaks per second of the spark gap the oil volume pumped is increased.

The arc or discharge is periodically conducted through the flow of oil, this is also telling text, if it was a switch there would not be conduction through the flow of oil.

It is a very logical and well thought out arrangement and for the time it would have been very usable and reliable as compared to a regular spark gap in air. Continuous use would be possible without needing to so often attend the spark gap, or be concerned with heat or carona problems, the transformers and condensers are actively cooled and immersed in cooling/insulating oil.

It has a turbine powered rotary spark gap in flowing oil, the flow of which determines the rate of break in the circuit and the volume of cooling oil circulated in a given period.

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In systems of this character when the
high frequency of the currents employed is
due to the action of a disruptive or intermit
tent discharge across an air gap
or break at
some point of the circuit, I have found it to
be of advantage not only to break up or de
stroy the least tendency to continuity of the
are or discharge, but also to control the period
of the re-establishment of the same, and from
investigations made by me with this object
in view I have found that greatly’ improved
results are secured by causing the discharge
to take place in and through an insulating
liquid, such as oil, and instead of allowing
the terminal points of the break to remain at
a uniform distance from. each other, to vary
such distance by bringing them periodically
in actual contact or sufficiently near to estab~
lish the discharge and then separating them,
or what is the equivalent of this, throwing in
and out of the gap or break a conducting
bridge at predetermined intervals
. To ob
tain the best results, moreover, I ?nd it es
sential to maintain at the point of discharge
a ?ow of the insulating medium, or, in gen
eral, such a circulation of the same as will
constantly operate to cut oif or break up the
discharge as fast as it is established. The
accomplishment of this latter result involves
the employment of some mechanism for main
taining the ?ow or circulation of the insulat
ing medium past the points of discharge,

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A is a pipe or tube that leads into a tank
B. To the end of this tube is secured an extension F
of insulating material and the two
terminals G’ G’ are caused to project through
the sides of the same, as indicated in Fig. 2.
Within the extension I secure two cross-bars
H which afford bearings for the spindle of a
small metallic turbine I,,the blades of which,
as the turbine revolves, bridge the space be
tween the two terminals, nearly or quite
touching the terminals in their movement.
If now the tank B be filled with oil and the
latter is drawn 06 or permitted to flow                   .01f
through the tube A, the turbine will be rotated
by the flow, the rate of rotation being
dependent upon the rate of flow
. By this
means the arc or discharge is periodically established
through a flow of _oil, which secures
in the most- satisfactory manner the condi
tions best adapted for practical results
.

..

The supply transformer comprising of  P-S is powered by the grid or generator and there is not needed for any very high voltage or frequency there what is needed is current interrupted at high frequency to excite the primary P' which along with S' are the HV - HF transformer. The applied frequency sine wave is itself chopped up by the spark gap in flowing oil. Similarly to almost any AC supplied spark gap. Being that the supply transformer is a low frequency high power transformer to begin with it does not require active cooling and insulation like the HF HV equipment in the oil.

Do you think the HF coil the spark gap and the HF condenser is immersed in oil because it is OU ? In my opinion it is not and has nothing to do with OU. The input to that would go berko when the gap shorted the secondary S'.

And if such an arrangement was connected to our grid now without some serious line filtering on the input a lot of HF content would be reflected onto the lines and things like TV and computers would be affected. IF the HV HF output was grounded on one leg then another set of problems arises in this day and age. HF induced ground currents, which is what injured and ultimately destroyed the generators/transformers at the Colorado Springs plant in my opinion, that and possibly a standing wave on the generator coils.

Maybe a re-read is in order for some.

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Offline Davi

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20582 on: January 12, 2014, 11:27:34 AM »
 With the help of theoretical bases of electrical engineering defines the conditions to obtain the free energy with the use of capacitor and inductor. Found an increase energy 25:1.

Click here for details  http://www.tarielkapanadze.ru/science-cond-eng.htm



Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20583 on: January 12, 2014, 12:55:25 PM »
Do you think the HF coil the spark gap and the HF condenser is immersed in oil because it is OU ? In my opinion it is not and has nothing to do with OU. The input to that would go berko when the gap shorted the secondary S'.

Actually I don't know what the purpose of this patent is at all. It creates high frequency current from low frequency current. But what for? What load »translating devices E« (?) would need high frequency current in order to work (the year is 1894)?

As depicted in Figure 2 there is not much room for a spark to occur between the wheel I and the connectors G.

»Within the extension I secure two cross-bars H which afford bearings for the spindle of a small metallic turbine I, the blades of which, as the turbine revolves, bridge the space between the two terminals, nearly or quite touching the terminals in their movement.«

That description sounds to me rather like a rotary switch than a classical rotary spark gap.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20584 on: January 12, 2014, 01:04:34 PM »

iam truly sorry but if we have some chance for replicate TK device then only way is 2004 video. May Gb but there is more srange things, like nervous nonmoveable guy with black wire in hand, or wire connected to water pipe near ground.
in others videos is 99% smoke and mirrors..

Given TK's international fame within the FE community, I reckon that if he had faked self-running, then he could financially gain from writing a book about how this was achieved with his various devices. I imagine it would make a best seller!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20585 on: January 12, 2014, 01:07:25 PM »
Hey Farmhand I like your posts you try to analyze the actions, Tesla said the oil quenched the spark made it sharp an fast.

What happens when we short a coil in a transformer??? high current starts running through the windings, this would increase its magnetic field, so if the coil were shorted at the peak of the sine wave it would drive the magnetic field up higher than normal then a sharp chopped fall, this is exactly what we want.

You say its not ou and it may not be but its going to be fun to find out  ;)

In the article I pasted last post he states that peak to peak switching is what we want, its a good read Im going to go over it again.

I read that when they tried to patent logic gates that they couldnt because Tesla already had  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Its gonna be the same, when we find it we will find Tesla already patented it years ago  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20586 on: January 12, 2014, 01:38:48 PM »
Actually I don't know what the purpose of this patent is at all. It creates high frequency current from low frequency current. But what for? What load »translating devices E« (?) would need high frequency current in order to work (the year is 1894)?

As depicted in Figure 2 there is not much room for a spark to occur between the wheel I and the connectors G.

»Within the extension I secure two cross-bars H which afford bearings for the spindle of a small metallic turbine I, the blades of which, as the turbine revolves, bridge the space between the two terminals, nearly or quite touching the terminals in their movement.«

That description sounds to me rather like a rotary switch than a classical rotary spark gap.

Capacitors
Rectify it smooth it, use it  :) simple

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20587 on: January 12, 2014, 02:18:25 PM »
Capacitors
Rectify it smooth it, use it  :) simple

Can't see any rectifier in that patent. In 1894 it has to be a mechanical one.

Given TK's international fame within the FE community, I reckon that if he had faked self-running, then he could financially gain from writing a book about how this was achieved with his various devices. I imagine it would make a best seller!

He could also financially gain from writing a best seller about how he achieved real over unity. ;D

Dave45

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20588 on: January 12, 2014, 02:22:23 PM »
Aviso said igbt's are what we need to short the coil, he also said it multiplied the power three times.

a.king posted this vid awhile back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC6aglJ6a_8

Dave45

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20589 on: January 12, 2014, 02:32:53 PM »
With the help of theoretical bases of electrical engineering defines the conditions to obtain the free energy with the use of capacitor and inductor. Found an increase energy 25:1.

Click here for details  http://www.tarielkapanadze.ru/science-cond-eng.htm



Notice the ramp generator, it switches at the peak, when we use a zero switching circuit the field falls into the primary as well as the secondary this causes reactive power (wasted power - heat) but with peak to peak switching the field is driven from the peak, not allowed to fall, no reactive power.

Now all we need to do is boost the magnetic field a little, right at its peak  ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20590 on: January 12, 2014, 03:58:12 PM »
What happens when we short a coil in a transformer??? high current starts running through the windings,
Yes

this would increase its magnetic field,...
No

Dave45

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20591 on: January 12, 2014, 04:09:33 PM »
why not, current creates a magnetic field, if we have a coil with 3 amps running through it wouldnt the same coil have a larger magnetic field with 7 amps running through it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20592 on: January 12, 2014, 04:21:37 PM »
Hey Farmhand I like your posts you try to analyze the actions, Tesla said the oil quenched the spark made it sharp an fast.

What happens when we short a coil in a transformer??? high current starts running through the windings, this would increase its magnetic field, so if the coil were shorted at the peak of the sine wave it would drive the magnetic field up higher than normal then a sharp chopped fall, this is exactly what we want.

You say its not ou and it may not be but its going to be fun to find out  ;)

In the article I pasted last post he states that peak to peak switching is what we want, its a good read Im going to go over it again.

I read that when they tried to patent logic gates that they couldnt because Tesla already had  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Its gonna be the same, when we find it we will find Tesla already patented it years ago  ;D

Interesting idea!
We try to analyze.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20593 on: January 12, 2014, 06:09:07 PM »
@Farmhand and Dave45, quickly tried motor with fourcontacts on end, sort of rotary switch. Set it up as Tesla with shorting coil on secondary of first transformer, all going well as 500watts of bulbs start to brighten up, however the back emf in first transformer gets in sync with the motor driving the rotary switch and within seconds the motor and all my circuit went up in flames. So this may be reason for driving with oil or keeping well isolated. Before the motor experiment I was trying IGBTs for shorting but could not get them to switch cleanly at all they just turn on as frequency increases to anything useful. Unfortunately I left them (3 parrallel) connected on one side of circuit when playing with motor they all exploded in flames with the rest of wiring and components. After todays playing I am sure that shorting coils is the answer.
Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20594 on: January 12, 2014, 06:24:01 PM »
@Farmhand and Dave45, quickly tried motor with fourcontacts on end, sort of rotary switch. Set it up as Tesla with shorting coil on secondary of first transformer, all going well as 500watts of bulbs start to brighten up, however the back emf in first transformer gets in sync with the motor driving the rotary switch and within seconds the motor and all my circuit went up in flames. So this may be reason for driving with oil or keeping well isolated. Before the motor experiment I was trying IGBTs for shorting but could not get them to switch cleanly at all they just turn on as frequency increases to anything useful. Unfortunately I left them (3 parrallel) connected on one side of circuit when playing with motor they all exploded in flames with the rest of wiring and components. After todays playing I am sure that shorting coils is the answer.
Regards
Keith

Thanks for sharing, sorry about your componants but glad to hear about the explosion of power  ;D
I think when the timing is right we will get an increase in energy, be ready for it, give it somewhere to go, ie capacitors or large load.

Im right in the middle of remodeling my sons room, have an exterior wall tore out, so it will be awhile before I can play  :(