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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14744913 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19741 on: October 27, 2013, 10:50:20 PM »
As we have seen on Igor Moroz's videos, while using an induction heater oscillator, he can light 2000 watts halogen bulbs, while only drawing 500 to 600 watts.
If he can't build a self-runner then something with these measurements must be wrong.

Zeitmaschine:  It is simple.
According to Tariel - many people achieve in their experiments Free Energy, but they don't understand how to reduce frequency and voltage.

As we can see, TK's lamps are connected by means of a thick orange wire leading into the tin can. So what is the component connected to that wire within the tin can?

1) A coil?

But a coil wound on an iron core which can output 220V at 50Hz at 24A would surely not fit into that tin can.

2) A capacitor?

A relatively small capacitor can provide a hight current, but only for a brief moment, then it needs to be recharged. So how to recharge that capacitor continuously? If this capacitor is part of a resonant LC circuit then there could be a certain chance the coil L in that circuit can recharge this capacitor continuously by means of high frequency (so the coil can be kept small) if this coil is the secondary coil of a transformer which primary coil is an open high voltage circuit drawing energy from the environment.

In theory.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19742 on: October 28, 2013, 12:38:10 AM »
More info on  ground amplification (and small capacitors used:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSyunav-R4U

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19743 on: October 28, 2013, 03:26:06 AM »
“There is not a single instance that a Tesla bifilar coil has shown any extraordinary property” Baratoulogos.
Show me the proof.


Baratoulogos:  I think TinselKoala would disagree with you as I would.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb39SwTXBE

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19744 on: October 28, 2013, 04:20:01 AM »
If he can't build a self-runner then something with these measurements must be wrong.
According to Tariel - many people achieve in their experiments Free Energy, but they don't understand how to reduce frequency and voltage.

As we can see, TK's lamps are connected by means of a thick orange wire leading into the tin can. So what is the component connected to that wire within the tin can?

1) A coil?

But a coil wound on an iron core which can output 220V at 50Hz at 24A would surely not fit into that tin can.

2) A capacitor?

A relatively small capacitor can provide a hight current, but only for a brief moment, then it needs to be recharged. So how to recharge that capacitor continuously? If this capacitor is part of a resonant LC circuit then there could be a certain chance the coil L in that circuit can recharge this capacitor continuously by means of high frequency (so the coil can be kept small) if this coil is the secondary coil of a transformer which primary coil is an open high voltage circuit drawing energy from the environment.

In theory.


 You mean 24 amps that comes from the ground? Because the Yellow wire that goes through the center of the coils tube is a ground. In the backyard video thats what was going through the tube in the coils is a ground wire that was connected to the iron water pipe.. So everything connected to the top there is ground level.


 Ever wonder why he soldered the switch on? I mean this thing is a Frankensteiner.

As a general statement:

 Not much can be learned from any of the videos by themselves. You got to look at all of them for that particular device and figure out what Tesla principle he was using. Also TK did many replications of many of Tesla's devices. You have to put them all in categories to figure it out.


 I'm just enjoying all the wheel spinning you guys are doing and not actually doing the work to figure this stuff out.


 When I get my LAb going I'll show my work and not hash numbers and not say it is this way because this book tells me so. You want to know how TK did it then go to the source that TK got all of his working devices from, TESLA. Otherwise 1000 more pages will be added to this thread an not one thing will be done but spinning wheels and bible thumping of the current dogma.


 Akula has done his homework now it is time for us to do some as well.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19745 on: October 28, 2013, 06:12:12 AM »
If he can't build a self-runner then something with these measurements must be wrong.
According to Tariel - many people achieve in their experiments Free Energy, but they don't understand how to reduce frequency and voltage.

As we can see, TK's lamps are connected by means of a thick orange wire leading into the tin can. So what is the component connected to that wire within the tin can?

1) A coil?

But a coil wound on an iron core which can output 220V at 50Hz at 24A would surely not fit into that tin can.

2) A capacitor?

A relatively small capacitor can provide a hight current, but only for a brief moment, then it needs to be recharged. So how to recharge that capacitor continuously? If this capacitor is part of a resonant LC circuit then there could be a certain chance the coil L in that circuit can recharge this capacitor continuously by means of high frequency (so the coil can be kept small) if this coil is the secondary coil of a transformer which primary coil is an open high voltage circuit drawing energy from the environment.

In theory.

yes its capacitor in the tin box. kapanadze source can be understood by replications of chubinidze and replication done by RED. input is done by inverter type oscillator using two transistors. there are two ways one is using pulsed dc spark and other is alternating hv ac spark. the spark can be avoided by using igbts switching back and forth as done by akula. but much protection is required in sparkless version as they blow up due to back emf pulses. these are called radiant spikes and can be had with a coil inside the pulsed tube. the magic is that when we pulse with hv dc spark from outside coil of thick copper wire as shown in kapanadze setup the coil inside that copper coil exhibits alternating current. one from inductive effect and other from back emf so we have ac in the inside coil. more coils wound  coil inside a coil will give more output.


radiant energy is quite reverse from our hot electricity.
wot we call high resistance  becomes  low resistance for radiant
we need core for hot electricity radiant dont need core
thick wire low resistance in hot one where as thin wire low resistance in radiant.

people dont understand this thats why they fail in replications.

find out more on earth energy from ground as shown by kdkinen. ground response is same as radiant spikes.

resonance works here also in kapanadze and its not between primary and secondary its between back emf and ground  and spark just keeps this process running. energy comes from back emf and ground energy. spark just play as catalyst and must not decay else no resonance between ground and back emf in coils.

and without ground you wont get power.


ps: quote

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."   Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher, 1788 - 1860.





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« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 11:00:48 AM by 00 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19746 on: October 28, 2013, 06:17:47 AM »
OO thx you for coming back.

I have saved all your posts here I consider them important.




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19747 on: October 28, 2013, 09:44:16 AM »
Baratoulogos:  I think TinselKoala would disagree with you as I would.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb39SwTXBE

I have seen this video in the past and thought about this. honestly.. i cannot  say i am intrigued. This is what i think anyways. The transmitting LC (hence L+C) with a given power will produce some EMF in the vicinity. Either the plain coil or the biffilar should have similar (assumption) transmitting properties. (assuming the primary cap is a **1000pf or so and the biffilar's capacitane even less say 30-100pf for those windings? i cannot know for sure)

The great difference lies in the receiving part. If the receiver coil share same inductance with biffilar but nowhere near capacitance then the same impressed EMF from primary, it is attenuated in the biffilar due to capacitance and not running it at its resonance frequency. This is what i see.

ps:I have not done the experiment, i may be wrong :D
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 01:45:38 PM by baroutologos »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19748 on: October 28, 2013, 10:05:53 AM »

Baratoulogos:  I think TinselKoala would disagree with you as I would.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb39SwTXBE

It would be interesting to compare to the results shown in the video to one using a Tesla bifilar coil as transmitter *and* receiver.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19749 on: October 28, 2013, 10:20:44 AM »
yes its capacitor in the tin box. kapanadze source can be understood by replications of chubinidze and replication done by RED. input is done by inverter type oscillator using two transistors. there are two ways one is using pulsed dc spark and other is alternating hv ac spark. the spark can be avoided by using igbts switching back and forth as done by akula. but much protection is required in sparkless version as they blow up due to back emf pulses. these are called radiant spikes and can be had with a coil inside the pulsed tube. the magic is that when we pulse with hv dc spark from outside coil of thick copper wire as shown in kapanadze setup the coil inside that copper coil exhibits alternating current. one from inductive effect and other from back emf so we have ac in the inside coil. more coils wound  coil inside a coil will give more output.


radiant energy is quite reverse from our hot electricity.
wot we call high resistance  becomes  low resistance for radiant
we need core for hot electricity radiant dont need core
thick wire low resistance in hot one where as thin wire low resistance in radiant.

people dont understand this thats why they fail in replications.

find out more on earth energy from ground as shown by kdkinen. ground response is same as radiant spikes.

resonance works here also in kapanadze and its not between primary and secondary its between back emf and ground  and spark just keeps this process running. energy comes from back emf and ground energy. spark just play as catalyst and must not decay else no resonance between ground and back emf in coils.

and without ground you wont get power.





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Bravo! Applause!
P.S. I think the same! Tesla Bifilar coil is the CAPACITOR inside. Look at my "probably Kapanadze picture". Inside the coil there are 10 Tesla Bifilars. Yes, Zeitmachine do logical explanations about "thick" wires- there are VERY MUCH MORE ELECTRONS, but in "dead" form! BackEMF, Tesla Bifilar coils, FAT WIRES,FREE ELECTRONS of Earth do the JOB! Yes 24 Amperes are in the THICK WIRE chain! This is 20 meters long thick wire chain and between there are? We must resolve it! Dear friends, there we no need to spark much, just very little! Thank you all!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19750 on: October 28, 2013, 10:50:03 AM »
@Ansis, I am sure this is right direction.
Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19751 on: October 28, 2013, 10:56:53 AM »
@all, one of Kapanadze vids shows on workbench a thick stranded cable attached to the chuck of a power drill, looks as if he was trying to straighten out the twist during manufacture to make a sort of Litz wire ? Certainly normally a strange thing to do.
Regards
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19752 on: October 28, 2013, 11:54:30 AM »
@all, one of Kapanadze vids shows on workbench a thick stranded cable attached to the chuck of a power drill, looks as if he was trying to straighten out the twist during manufacture to make a sort of Litz wire ? Certainly normally a strange thing to do.
Regards
Keith

Maybe to tightly twist the strands from the ten separate and insulated multi-strand wires in the cable if same cable as that in Ansis's 'probably Kapanadze picture'??

Whilst on the subject of wire strands, a thought occurred to me that in the 'green box' video, we see a guy twisting the strands of a long 'earth' wire onto the strands of the wire connected to the buried radiator. The other earth wire is connected to the water pipe. Now, say at an appropriate point in the demo, the earth wire connected to the radiator was replaced by a grid supply. In this situation there would be a path from grid 'live' to earth ground at the water pipe, passing right through Kapanadze's device. How convenient is that! My suspicion is that the live feed was coming from the house on a wire that was hanging over the balustrade - ref the 'transparent box video' where this wire can be glimpsed (see clip below)  and the area below the canopy near where the wire drops, was guarded by a couple of TK's heavies!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19753 on: October 28, 2013, 12:16:30 PM »
@Hoppy, Only problem is that I thought everyone came to the same conclusion that the radiator did not provide a good enough earth for gen to work properly so wires were changed to water pipe and in fact radiator does not get used at all. Only one earth required. To scam this two wires would be needed and in front of press and investers I dont think so. Even if water pipe was live then there is still no return path. With voltages and high current involved someone could could get a nasty shock at least, and if camera present what a risk of embarrassment !
Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19754 on: October 28, 2013, 01:14:54 PM »
@Hoppy, Only problem is that I thought everyone came to the same conclusion that the radiator did not provide a good enough earth for gen to work properly so wires were changed to water pipe and in fact radiator does not get used at all. Only one earth required. To scam this two wires would be needed and in front of press and investers I dont think so. Even if water pipe was live then there is still no return path. With voltages and high current involved someone could could get a nasty shock at least, and if camera present what a risk of embarrassment !
Regards
Keith

That's what I originally thought but I'm not sure as I can't see if and when it got disconnected. I've probably missed it on the video through too much eyeballing!  ;D Maybe someone can direct me to the point where the radiator is disconnected and the wire pulled back to put me right on this.

With regards to the safety issue using mains, remember the bit where the tester is pulled away from the water pipe whilst trying to take a measurement. Maybe this was because the pipe was about to be energised.  :o As far as the device itself is concerned, the switch on the green box would disconnect any supply to the bare wire terminated lamps.