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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14752296 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19620 on: October 21, 2013, 06:04:28 PM »
The game with "cores" are fruitless... , if we don`t understand "the principle".
Enlighten us then, what is the operating principle of OU devices containing "cores" ?
For example this one...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19621 on: October 21, 2013, 06:19:37 PM »
@a.king21, you should have also underlined the' long grounded wire' as this is first time I have heard such an expression. Almost all working replications include a long grounded wire, usually the camera man follows this all the way down to show earth connection at end. Any one know why long wire is needed ? Do well put together replications including mine fail due to short earth termination?
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Yes I agree, but it's got us thinking along the correct lines. So a short sharp spike also creates a static disturbance. In order to harvest this we need long earth wires and a short aerial. (Tesla). Now Kapanadze's devices have some Tesla logic behind them, we can think along correct lines.
My personal view is that the earth, being one plate of a massive capacitor, creates an electromagnetic duplicate of an electrical transmission, and harvesting this and looping it into the device is one of Kapanadze's secrets. This is in addition to the standing waves which are created when a short sharp spike is produced. Standing waves are a Tesla discovery also.
The main thing is to harvest the effect of the short sharp spike using a short aerial, and long earth wires. The bifilar resonant coil system is also crucial. Step down should be on a 4:1 ratio to maintain resonance. (Tesla again).
Also the 'A'L1 and 'B'L1 coils representing transmitter and receiver respectively should have an earth link on the negative side. (Tesla again). (Look at Tesla's Wardencliffe patents).
It's possible that Kapanadze simply linked L1 and L2 via earth long wire ground and got away with a Tesla shortcut, but it has to be tested by experiment.
Kapanadze told me in passing, (whilst discussing various incarnations of his system) that he needs to measure his wires and the coils are bifilar. So if he needs to measure and uses Bifilar we look to the source.  The source is Tesla. So there is confirmation with Tesla.
The next step is mixing harvested static "from the air" (Tesla)  with ordinary electric input. This is where the Melnychenko "static mixing" patent comes in. So we get a further kick in an electrical version of "stochastic resonance" which produces further spikes in the form of beat frequencies.
All we have to do now is to build the thing.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19622 on: October 21, 2013, 06:44:21 PM »
Enlighten us then, what is the operating principle of OU devices containing "cores" ?
For example this one...
This one seems not have overunity. Because brightness not full, Weshley say that full, but in reality I see, that only about 3 procents of full brightnes.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19623 on: October 21, 2013, 06:49:20 PM »
Hi, Keith!
Yes LONG wires are VERY IMPORTANT part of the "effects".
I do the very simple experiment: 230V main => Transformer => Rectifiere + Capacitor 10 000uF => LONG WIRES (long as possible, my was 2meters 125mm2 "soft wires") => 555 timer circuit with resistor and Zenner diode to 10 Volts with 1000uF cap to stabilize 18V power from rectifiere with 10 000uF => MOSFET driver + Induction Coil WITHOUT any BackEMF filters!!!! => At the end spark plug. We can spark "earth ground" or "minus ground". I don`t remember but I think I do like ordinary- to minus.
How do you think what was happened? These long wires starting colect voltage!!!!
My Zenner start "blow up" and Multimeter go to HIGH!!!!!
It is.
You can think about it!
Without schematic I not understand, that you saying.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19624 on: October 21, 2013, 07:24:35 PM »
Kapanadze Schema?
This might work, and show's the Electrostatic way of harvesting and mixing.

Cheerz~

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19625 on: October 21, 2013, 07:43:44 PM »
Hi, andrea76!
I am from Latvia and you know we live in the USSR long time before Independence of Latvia.
I know Russian language very well. In the Russian part of internet are many good forums. One is "matri-x" second is "realstrannik". In these forums if you know language you can read, listen, e.c.t. In "matri-x" forum there are very many usefull information. MP3, video e.c.t. Kapanadze is ONE of the "favorite" artist of the FreeEnergy field. Russian "entusiast`s" try to find how the device working and is making a lot of Skype conference records in the past. What I do I listen. Nothing more. 10- th houres of audio about Kapanadze generator. If you know language, you can go there and read, listen e.c.t. I am free from "whatever" and I do what I want. Tariel and Gyja spoke about device a lot. One part is lye, other parts are true. Kapanadze not open "the cards", he spoke about... . One part is about long wires and spark. That`s it!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19626 on: October 21, 2013, 07:58:10 PM »

To, Hoppy!
Build 555 generator with MOSFET (3 leg to the Gate without resistors between) and Induction coil at the end with spark plug. Made it with variable frequency from single Hz to 30kHz. Make long wires between power supply and device- just put about 2-3 meters of wire between power supply and device. Than put multimeter across 10 000uF capacitor and start "adjust" something- play with this :-) And in one moment you blow out everything. This "accident" I think make Kapanadze team start to think!
P.S. The game with "cores" are fruitless... , if we don`t understand "the principle".
OK, don`t worry, be happy!

OK, I'll chew on that as it makes some sense to me because I have always suspected that TK had his power supply along way from the device, in his house, so he had really long wires!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19627 on: October 21, 2013, 08:00:05 PM »
@Zeit,Hi I am doing just that with microwave trans by only connecting the one leg of secondary, nothing good at the moment but at least the transformer runs cool. In the UK the earth is the same as neutral so I guess that is why the circuit works like this. When using inverter no spark nothing.
Regards
Keith
I think the frequency of the high voltage should be higher than 50Hz (or 60Hz). Don't know if the higher the better, but looking at Frequency difference and the speed of energy flow (Page 71) there should be a difference in frequency in order to get an energy flow from high voltage which connects to the environment to low voltage (220V/50Hz) which connects to the load.

IMHO that means high voltage with 50Hz will not work when the load circuit also runs on 50Hz. A thought would be to double somehow the HV output frequency of a microwave transformer (if no HV high frequency is available).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19628 on: October 21, 2013, 09:16:19 PM »
Akula0083 free energy pictures and a new schematic...

BELOW IS A LINK TO the SOURCE

http://www.realstrannik.ru/forum/48-temy-freeenergylt-antanasa/129332-ustanovka-akuly-povtorenie.html?start=432


You might want to join this Russian forum and ask "Roman"  aka "Akula0083" him self about the very complex nature of his design....

Acca..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19629 on: October 21, 2013, 09:28:52 PM »
Yes I agree, but it's got us thinking along the correct lines. So a short sharp spike also creates a static disturbance. In order to harvest this we need long earth wires and a short aerial. (Tesla). Now Kapanadze's devices have some Tesla logic behind them, we can think along correct lines.
My personal view is that the earth, being one plate of a massive capacitor, creates an electromagnetic duplicate of an electrical transmission, and harvesting this and looping it into the device is one of Kapanadze's secrets. This is in addition to the standing waves which are created when a short sharp spike is produced. Standing waves are a Tesla discovery also.
The main thing is to harvest the effect of the short sharp spike using a short aerial, and long earth wires. The bifilar resonant coil system is also crucial. Step down should be on a 4:1 ratio to maintain resonance. (Tesla again).
Also the 'A'L1 and 'B'L1 coils representing transmitter and receiver respectively should have an earth link on the negative side. (Tesla again). (Look at Tesla's Wardencliffe patents).
It's possible that Kapanadze simply linked L1 and L2 via earth long wire ground and got away with a Tesla shortcut, but it has to be tested by experiment.
Kapanadze told me in passing, (whilst discussing various incarnations of his system) that he needs to measure his wires and the coils are bifilar. So if he needs to measure and uses Bifilar we look to the source.  The source is Tesla. So there is confirmation with Tesla.
The next step is mixing harvested static "from the air" (Tesla)  with ordinary electric input. This is where the Melnychenko "static mixing" patent comes in. So we get a further kick in an electrical version of "stochastic resonance" which produces further spikes in the form of beat frequencies.
All we have to do now is to build the thing.

Very good!
P.S. Guy`s maybe we can do it, together like Wesley sad?
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19630 on: October 21, 2013, 09:41:31 PM »
Hi, Keith!
Yes LONG wires are VERY IMPORTANT part of the "effects".
I do the very simple experiment: 230V main => Transformer => Rectifiere + Capacitor 10 000uF => LONG WIRES (long as possible, my was 2meters 125mm2 "soft wires") => 555 timer circuit with resistor and Zenner diode to 10 Volts with 1000uF cap to stabilize 18V power from rectifiere with 10 000uF => MOSFET driver + Induction Coil WITHOUT any BackEMF filters!!!! => At the end spark plug. We can spark "earth ground" or "minus ground". I don`t remember but I think I do like ordinary- to minus.
How do you think what was happened? These long wires starting colect voltage!!!!
My Zenner start "blow up" and Multimeter go to HIGH!!!!!
It is.
You can think about it!


Please post diagram showing all components and sizes/values.
Thanks
DonL


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19631 on: October 21, 2013, 09:48:51 PM »
Dear Verpies.

I have been quietly looking into the recent posts of GeoFusion and doing some experiments. I have mounted on a small blob of Silicone rubber cement a Ferrite half U core around which I have carefully placed a pair of 20 turn Copper coils that do not make any mechanical contact with the core. This coil is centre tapped and connected to the original Royer oscillator that GeoFusion posted here.
This design was prompted from your posts suggesting that NAR might play a large role!!

http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg373340/#msg373340

I am using a pair of TIP 3055 transistors as there are no ringing diodes fitted within. Capacitor is 680nF. Frequency is 93.5 KHz.

Now this is my question. With a 24 VDC input (2 X 7 AH gel cells) I am seeing just over 200 V p/p!! Scope shot attached ( probe on X10 ). I was expecting to see around Pi x V. i.e. around 72 V p/p

Could you please explain why I am seeing such an excess of voltage than what I would normally expect.

Thank you in anticipation.

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19632 on: October 21, 2013, 09:50:58 PM »
  Acca:
  We have tried to contact Akula concerning the working principals of his previous device.
He did not answer my e-mails, or to MenofFather, and although he did communicate with T-1000 through Skype, several times, there were no further discussions after a certain point.  That does not mean that it is still impossible to do so, at this time, but I'm just relating that an effort has been already been made to do so in the past. And since Akula may not speak English, or at least not well, this is one of the reasons that we have not continued to pursued this by non-Russian speaking people from this or the other Kapanadze's cousin thread.

  Concerning long earth wires:  Akula has shown a long ground wire, going to the saturated wet area that's about 8 to10 meters away, as well as having no earth ground, at all. It looks like both ways are possible, to have some results, at least if what we see is true. But, there may be an advantage to having a long wire, instead. Which may also be working as a type of antenna, as well as a ground. This all needs to be tested, as well as the different cores, bifilar, or not, winding methods, resonance points, feed-back methods, etz...
That is what we are trying to do.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19633 on: October 21, 2013, 09:57:22 PM »
I am using a pair of TIP 3055 transistors as there are no ringing diodes fitted within. Capacitor is 680nF. Frequency is 93.5 KHz.

Now this is my question. With a 24 VDC input (2 X 7 AH gel cells) I am seeing just over 200 V p/p!! Scope shot attached ( probe on X10 ). I was expecting to see around Pi x V. i.e. around 72 V p/p
First, I'd like to see the waveform across the primary winding.
I assume that you are powering the primary winding with this circuit. (object if that's not true)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19634 on: October 21, 2013, 10:45:09 PM »
First, I'd like to see the waveform across the primary winding.
I assume that you are powering the primary winding with this circuit. (object if that's not true)

Dear Verpies.

Thanks for your reply.

Yes that is the circuit I am using and the scope shot is looking at the primary. I have not put a secondary on as yet. The coil is 20 turns total, 10 per limb.

Cheers Grum.