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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14361955 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19575 on: October 19, 2013, 07:48:31 PM »
   Other Planet:
  First, I'd like to mentioned that the diagram that you are following was not made by Akula, but was made by someone else, and also, has not been proven or replicated and shown to be an actual working device as such, or verified, one way or another.
  Second, we are not sure that there is any aluminum sheet insert inside of the original Akula device's air coil, as we had assumed previously, nor is there any to be observed in his second device, either.
  Third, that Akula had shown a choke made using 50 turns, of insulated wire, over a non metal former, connected only to a small tuning capacitor, and nothing else. But, later mentioned that a 300 turns choke would work even better.
  I hope this helps.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19576 on: October 19, 2013, 08:08:08 PM »
Such as,  if the magical Russian ferrite core is absolutely needed, or not.
I think that the Russian ferrites are not magic. They just represent one of the few chemical compositions in existence.  There are not that many common compositions. Some of them used to be used in the past and not anymore because of their cost.  The user Osiakosia has looked into the composition of the old ferries and contemporary ones.  Just look up his old posts or PM him.

Does the core really need to be the "special one", or will any work.
I think it just has to be one of the eight compositions in use. 1/8 is not very special.
I think that the size and shape affects its acoustic resonance frequency, AL value and the ampturns it can tolerate, but not much more. Thus, besides the acoustic properties, the core dimensions and shapes are not very critical  - not any more than in regular transformer.

Does the core need to be insulated between halves, are the clips affecting anything, or  not.
IMO opinion insulation does not matter because these ferrites are not electrically conductive.
The spacing and squeezing does matter in my opinion because it affects the acoustic properties of the ferrite...especially if rattling/clapping is important (e.g. a full toroid cannot do that).

Already Geo has shown us that yokes are not needed to achieve the same results, that his yoke can obtain, by showing us that the fly-backs will work.
I also think the the conical yoke shape is not necessary. EE, CC or EI cores should work as well. (loose pieces too).
IMO as far as the energy generating effect goes, the core does not have to be ferromagnetic at all and copper or aluminum or brass pipes, rings, disks or springy helical windings, also work as long as they are allowed to ring acoustically at some very special frequencies and magnetic fields.

The author of the patent here was one of the first ones to notice the anomalous energy in inductors and transformers that are vibrated acoustically.

Offline baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19577 on: October 19, 2013, 08:30:11 PM »
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www.realstrannik.ru/forum/48-temy-freeenergylt-antanasa/129332-ustanovka-akuly-povtorenie.html?start=360#162851

I gave a study of this circuit. It seems its a clever circuit and i think... behaves as a Kacher one but by using FETs in a half bridge topology makes it more efficient. So an efficient, self tuned, duty cycle adjusted circuit for creating an LC resonance... and running the Tesla coil.. right?

How the yoke fits to all? The biffilars? the ground?


ps: I once had assembled a Tesla coil run by a royer oscillator, having the primary with a variable capacitor (pf range) in parallell.
One of the most efficient designs for Tesla coil seen by me. Typically about 50% more efficiently than a Kacher but far easily detuned when abused (touched etc).
 
I have also run a Tesla coil having istead of a typical primary few turns over a double E ferrite transformer and another winding with a royer oscillator. Runned good but not so effective. I did not strive to perfect it though. The plan was to be like a Tesla magnifier setup. :)
Anyway Tesla coils are at best tools.. not OU in anyway in my experience and others of course.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19578 on: October 19, 2013, 09:08:24 PM »
  Verpies:
  Thanks for your detailed replies.
   So, the next two tests could be to see if the use on non round or non conical coils, such as ferrite rods will also work, as I use in the "Ringer" circuits. As well as trying to use non ferrite cores, but still a round shaped toroid air core for the primary coils.
This would eliminate to some degree the idea of ferrite as the gain medium, although copper or other gain mediums may still be present. But, through the elimination, one by one, the process of finding just where the magic lies, may be observed.

  Hoppy:
  Thanks for your results and tests on the output readings of your Royer oscillator. I know how frustrating this all can be.
  However, I don't think that the actual load readings are of real concern, once we can successfully feed-back and self run these devices.  As economizing the circuit, or working towards efficiency is not the goal here. Although its hard to imagine how putting a load on a device can induce it to create 0 input from an input source, as was shown by SR 193. But, it does look like the load becomes part of the circuit, and will not work the same without it.
 
  Geo:
  Maybe try to obtain more Halogen 1kw bulbs, to test for even higher output results, as it may also be possible that the batteries output drawn, may drop even further.
  Again, please show a clear close up picture of your Royer oscillator so that we can try to duplicate your results, by using the same exact components, coils and other details, where possible. Also, are your yoke cores made in Russia, or not? 
 I will do my part to follow up on this, as soon as I can. 
  Sorry for all my suggestions, and thanks again for all your great contributions.
  You have been an inspiration to us all.

                                                          NickZ

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19579 on: October 19, 2013, 09:26:19 PM »
 NickZ:  “ First, I'd like to mentioned that the diagram that you are following was not made by Akula, but was made by someone else, and also, has not been proven or replicated and shown to be an actual working device as such, or verified, one way or another.”
 
Your comments are not true… link to translated Roman post is below “some of you should follow the links provided and read to understand them”  and maybe stop  moaning and complaining that this is hard… Roman makes his own daigrams as wells his posts here below..   
 
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realstrannik.ru%2Fforum%2F48-temy-freeenergylt-antanasa%2F129332-ustanovka-akuly-povtorenie.html%3Fstart%3D360%23162851&act=url


This is his quote" I just wake up Inexhaustible all sketches by hand type in the programe!"[/font]
Acca..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19580 on: October 19, 2013, 10:26:15 PM »

This is my NE555 CMOS oscillator. You dont need dead time part, so you cut it out, and you need
mosfet driver at output, I use TC4420 for that.

Hi Karlo,

Thanks for the unrared schematic drawing you kindly uploaded here: http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg373923/#msg373923 

Gyula

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19581 on: October 19, 2013, 10:33:41 PM »

  Geo:
  Maybe try to obtain more Halogen 1kw bulbs, to test for even higher output results, as it may also be possible that the batteries output drawn, may drop even further.
  Again, please show a clear close up picture of your Royer oscillator so that we can try to duplicate your results, by using the same exact components, coils and other details, where possible. Also, are your yoke cores made in Russia, or not? 
 I will do my part to follow up on this, as soon as I can. 
  Sorry for all my suggestions, and thanks again for all your great contributions.
  You have been an inspiration to us all.

                                                          NickZ

Hi Nick :),

Alright, I'll make sure to get more of these 1kW halogen bulbs and put two parrallel and see differences for testings.
I'll post one more lighting a 500 Watt incandescent bulb maybe today. or maybe 2 in parallel for the test :). maybe the Ciruit will pop today haha. oh well.

Yes alright close ups again  no problem , the Royer oscillator I should rebuild because I blew the last one of that particular one, small Fet's on it. IRFZ34N they are. But easy to get (= no problem.
Hmmm I remember seeing Ru on the Ferrite yoke somewhere but I tried this method with other types of Tv CRT yokes and does the same thing, but difference is coiling and dimension of Yoke for output.
Hey man  no problem at all :) , we need these discussions to move forward with the work and testings, Lets keep it this way.

Cheerz~
Geo :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19582 on: October 19, 2013, 11:13:30 PM »
  Reply to Acca:
  I'm not complaining, at all.
   The quote that you previously posted made by Akula was in reply to this post (below). I admit that I don't always understand.
  If you feel that the previous diagram is correct, by all means, don't let me keep you from replicating it. But, as far as I've heard, he has been asked about it, and made a reply that he had not put that diagram onto the Internet, at that time. 
  I really don't know, what to believe. Sorry to annoy you.
  Thank you for sharing your views.
                                                    NickZ


Alfic writes:   ......   The scheme is incorrect!  Will not work! [/ Quote]

  Normalnenko so alfik - a couple of minutes collected and checked
  Ah-young man

  Better yet, write: "So what?"
  This question is even no replies


 
  GeoFusion: 
   One other suggestion, if I may...  In order to avoid fried transistors, I've learned to keep my finger on them, at first, to see how they react. If you can't touch them, it's usually only a matter of time before they go up in smoke.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19583 on: October 19, 2013, 11:39:10 PM »

  Hoppy:
  Thanks for your results and tests on the output readings of your Royer oscillator. I know how frustrating this all can be.
  However, I don't think that the actual load readings are of real concern, once we can successfully feed-back and self run these devices.  As economizing the circuit, or working towards efficiency is not the goal here. Although its hard to imagine how putting a load on a device can induce it to create 0 input from an input source, as was shown by SR 193. But, it does look like the load becomes part of the circuit, and will not work the same without it.
 

Nick:
I'm sure you are right on the efficiency front, as IMO there must almost certainly be a hitherto unknown factor responsible for self-running operation if fact self-running is possible. Its very unfortunate that we are still awaiting to see a self-running claim being subject to appropriate measurement.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19584 on: October 20, 2013, 12:07:03 AM »
  GeoFusion: 
   One other suggestion, if I may...  In order to avoid fried transistors, I've learned to keep my finger on them, at first, to see how they react. If you can't touch them, it's usually only a matter of time before they go up in smoke.

Nickz :) :
Yes that is a method I've been doing alot too but thank you for letting me know it's common form how you guyz do sometimes, putting my finger on the transistors see if they are hot or not.
 but the circuit which I  lit the 1kW halogen,  after many minutes don't know how much, it will get warm but the entire heatsink will first not the fets., but it's the toroid chock that gets warm till hot, depending the gauge used. but if I use a bigger gauge wire  it will pop the Fets one shot, or even if I short circuit the outputs one time, it fries the Fets too. :) very sensitive circuit.

Cheerz~

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19585 on: October 20, 2013, 12:08:39 AM »
  There may also be something blocking our combined abilities to visualize and build such systems. May be no coinsidense, at all. 
  If you can visualize it in your mind (like Tesla could), you can build it, but if you can't, then it may only come about and happen by accident. Either way I hope that it's comes about soon, as I see that some of us don't have the patience, that other of us here have shown.
  I however have no choice... I must follow my joy, and the journey is the only way to get there. I'm there already, and so are we all, although we may not know it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19586 on: October 20, 2013, 12:23:19 AM »
Im still trying to replicate akulas first device, but now i came to really big problems. Assuming the schematic i attached, is a real one at all.

Dear From other Planet.

To start with there was the original schematic that T=1000 painstakingly drew from watching the video that appeared earlier this year. Suddenly an "Official"?? Schematic appeared!! With what had an apparent mistake this was also rectified by T-1000. This schematic used a pair of IGBT's and was the one I used for my build. The final schematic, the one you attached to this post, was the last,
however at that time T-1000 had been in contact with Roman (Akula) who denied posting any schematics at the time in question!!

I built my device with the little knowledge that was available and a great deal of background from T-1000. We decided to place a capacitive liner within the main coil that was put in parallel with a choke. My first choke consisted of 600 turns of 0.3mm wire and was regularly generating up to 10000 volts at a frequency of around 84Khz. This frequency never altered despite changes to the drive frequency!!
Alas that choke got too hot and collapsed. Others were tried and the last one was made at 250 turns. All were capable of 8 to 10 thousand volts.


As I see it Akula's latest video shows a Current side and the Tesla coil provides the HF HV. I think my device lacked enough HF HV that was supposed to be generated by the internal choke.

I hope the above is of some use to you? And good luck with your replication.


Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19587 on: October 20, 2013, 02:13:40 AM »
Dear From other Planet.

Akulas shematic is equal Tiger's, (Wesley know what about i am talking here).
In both devices is one but big secret. It works with Russian Yoki only,  even more the only old russian  color TV set is good to use!

PS I am very sure that Tiger ask Akula to be his sales manager and Akula is new generation of Tiger 2007!

PPS http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9781-tigers-device-0-150-1kwt-replicant.html

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19588 on: October 20, 2013, 02:20:18 AM »
hello gyulasun, here is my old post in this theme, the difference between his and my scheme comprised the following: my scheme uses amplitude modulation, he does not uses amplitude modulation, my scheme uses single wire transfer of energy, his use wireless transmission, My scheme in the receiving part is not using power switches, he used in the the receiving part power transistors :)
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19589 on: October 20, 2013, 12:33:36 PM »
Im still trying to replicate akulas first device, but now i came to really big problems. Assuming the schematic i attached, is a real one at all.
Its about the choke coil, drossel like its called in russian and german. According to the schematic, it has to be 1/4 the wavelenght of the driving frequency or an even multiple of that. Now, for 60kHz, that would be around 1,25 kilometer. First problem: How to measure a 1,25 km wire without buying a special meter, that costs 400-500 euro. Second problem: If u somehow can solve problem number one, u will end up with a coil that has thousands of turns, and so induced voltage in it will be in high kilovolt region. Means it will spark like hell and probably end up burning itself. Not to mention the cap ratings that would be required. Any thoughts on this?
I think, that maybe in first Roman video principe is 50 Hz modelation. То есть 50 герц нужны для подмагничивания, вся фишка в подмагничивании возможно.