Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16499500 times)

a.king21 · « **Reply #18525 on:** August 07, 2013, 08:52:03 PM »

Sometimes we forget that the ground is a magnetic resevoir - it's called the magnetic field.

penno64 · « **Reply #18526 on:** August 07, 2013, 10:42:11 PM »

Quote from: Jack Noskills on August 07, 2013, 02:17:54 PM

Stepanov has got a patent for his transformer/power amplifier:

https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document?PN=EP2429071%20EP%202429071&iDocId=7713424&iepatch=.pdf

Does anyone know if he has found a partner that has capability for mass production ?

I guess soon there is no need for Tariel to arrange shows anymore. Maybe he does not know about this, if not then I think he should be informed.

Hey Jack,
How are things going?
I had a go at a Tesla switch a while back but, this patent application makes more sense in that the pulse via the transformer (in my case will 240/12) will really drive the secondary.
The TS was said to run best at around 400Hz - wonder what this setup runs best at?
Switching is of concern - what would you use to handle around 400Hz and a couple of amps?

Regards, Penno

a.king21 · « **Reply #18527 on:** August 08, 2013, 01:59:33 AM »

Zeit: Your patent find is a gem.
Here's an extract machine translated from Portugese:
The equipment object of the present invention works as follows: the electromagnetic field generator device to be powered by an electrical power source, produces an electromagnetic field that induces an electric current in closed circuit in conductor element itself, creating an interaction between the magnetic steam equipment and terraced Earth magnetic, passing there-through electromagnetic repulsion and attraction-an endless supply of electrons of the conductor element in closed circuit itself, which is connected to ground through a mesh of conductive interconnect element. The electrons attracted add up to this current that circulates in closed circuit in conductor element itself, where electricity is available for high power loads, although the equipment object of the present invention is powered with a small power. Thus, in a manner advantageous, the equipment object of the present invention is an electron trap, for electric power generation.

I wish there was an English version

Zeitmaschine · « **Reply #18528 on:** August 08, 2013, 03:30:22 AM »

In theory, what could happen when ground is connected via a diode to a circuit or something that acts like a diode?

On the other hand, there is no diode depicted in the Barbosa patents.

magpwr · « **Reply #18529 on:** August 08, 2013, 05:36:24 AM »

Quote from: steadyfield on August 07, 2013, 08:44:33 AM

hi everyone,
i'm from china and i'm new to this forum.
the translation tool doesn't work very well and it's hard for a chinese like me to get through the translated sentences.
so let me translate what you said.

May i ask which circuit diagram are you using to build this device.
translate:请问你这个装置用的是什么电路图？

Can you upload diagram to show us which one.
translate:你能上传一个（这个装置的）电路图吗？

====================================
in my opinion,what xiaoke2727 is trying to replicate is the Chubinidze ikako device.the youtube link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz0IPdPbHvA

by the way,i'm also trying to replicate this device,but i have no idea how the resonator coil is wound and how many turns is the coil.
in addition,i don't know how to tune it to resonance.

attached is a possible diagram.

sry for my poor english.

Hi steadyfield,

Not bad your english is good.
May i suggest you directly response to "xiaoke2727" in chinese.He would receive the email notification from you and he would understand.

This experiment you need electronics,electrical knowledge ,equipment oscilloscope,L/C meter to measure capacitance and inductance if your multimeter do not have one.
Additional knowledge in radio tuning like resonance is required.

The easy part of these experiment with electronic knowledge is assembling the driver stage for the hv transformer."""""""""""High voltage''''''''''''''''''''''
Using search in internet there is many sites which shows how to locate ground pin(cold side) for HV transformer.
For spark gap i think using motor vehicle spark plug is better solution.Save time in construction.But spark gap needs to be knocked down a little more to reduce the gap a little bit,maybe.

You will need to know the current resonance frequency of hv transformer while in operation.This can be tuned further at driver stage to reduce current draw maybe.
The receiver stage for this design i'm little lost due to insufficient understanding from drawing.I understand only 1 part, 2 winding of 80 turns to get 120uH.This is subjective as the diameter of coil is unknown,so need to wind 10 turns more at 1st then use L/C meter,value should be around 120uH.

{
I would like to get involve in this HV project but i'm currently involved in HHO project - increasing HHO production using just 1 watt of power using just tap water only.Just to observe increase in bubble production using lower power at first before increasing power.Ultimately my experiment may go 2 ways one way to create HHO fire(2800C) via blow torch to power existing stirling power generator(Master plan is to power 1 or 3KW solar concentrator engine(Merely need 2000C ) or buy 1 K/W small common generator and fine tune engine for hho.

I just release one more video yesterday in my youtube channel "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJw4SSjnejM" version 2.0 of 1watt HHO generator.
}

steadyfield · « **Reply #18530 on:** August 08, 2013, 07:07:17 AM »

hi,magpwr
thanks for replying.
I tried to contact with "xiaoke2727" in BAIDU several weeks ago,but he didn't respond.

I have a HV module with an output of around 3-4kV sinewave .It draws 12V 0.85A DC when running.Can I use it in this device?

For the spark gap,I have a few 470V surge arrester(gas discharge tube). Can I connect them in series to substitute the spark gap? How many of them do I need?

For the coil,I wound approx 90 turns bifilar. I measured its inductance using a LC meter and it says 115.34uH. When I inserted a few ferrite toroids into it (not too deep), its inductance increased a little bit.

The diameter of the coil is 7.5cm (about 3 inches)

now I wonder how many turns the resonator coil is and in which way it is wound.

and the last question is, how can I get its resonant frequency?

thxs.

xiaoke2727 · « **Reply #18531 on:** August 08, 2013, 09:55:36 AM »

hello to all
我没有精确的测量仪器
I don't have a precise measurement instruments
无法兼顾80T和120u同时满足
Can't juggle 80 t and 120 u
我通过这个链接计算
I calculated from this link
http://bbs.kechuang.org/tool/tc/teslacoil/HelicalCoil.html

steadyfield · « **Reply #18532 on:** August 08, 2013, 10:37:03 AM »

Quote from: xiaoke2727 on August 08, 2013, 09:55:36 AM

hello to all
我没有精确的测量仪器
I don't have a precise measurement instruments
无法兼顾80T和120u同时满足
Can't juggle 80 t and 120 u
我通过这个链接计算
I calculated from this link
http://bbs.kechuang.org/tool/tc/teslacoil/HelicalCoil.html

Hi,
I wound 98 bifilar turns on a 75mm PVC tube with 1mm^2 wire.I measured its inductance and it says 113uH.I think my coil would be close to the original one in the video.
我在直径为75mm的PVC管上用1平方的电线双线并绕了98匝。我测量了它的电感量为113uH。我认为我绕的线圈应该接近于原始视频中的线圈。

Do not count on fixed parameters.The tunning process is more important than the fixed parameters.
不要依赖于固定的参数。调谐的过程比固定的参数更重要。

However,I have no idea how to tune the device now.
但是，我现在不知如何给装置调到共振状态。

I would appreciate it if anyone can help me with the tunning process.

magpwr · « **Reply #18533 on:** August 08, 2013, 02:14:29 PM »

Quote from: steadyfield on August 08, 2013, 07:07:17 AM

hi,magpwr
thanks for replying.
I tried to contact with "xiaoke2727" in BAIDU several weeks ago,but he didn't respond.

I will try to answer your question.

I have a HV module with an output of around 3-4kV sinewave .It draws 12V 0.85A DC when running.Can I use it in this device?

For the spark gap,I have a few 470V surge arrester(gas discharge tube). Can I connect them in series to substitute the spark gap? How many of them do I need?

For the coil,I wound approx 90 turns bifilar. I measured its inductance using a LC meter and it says 115.34uH. When I inserted a few ferrite toroids into it (not too deep), its inductance increased a little bit.

The diameter of the coil is 7.5cm (about 3 inches)

now I wonder how many turns the resonator coil is and in which way it is wound.

and the last question is, how can I get its resonant frequency?

thxs.

Hi steadyfield,

I have a HV module with an output of around 3-4kV sinewave .It draws 12V 0.85A DC when running.Can I use it in this device?
Ans:For merely finding out the resonance of the hand assemble coil this might do the trick for a start.In kapanadze base on observed spark ,i only think the voltage is much higher maybe around 8KV ....15KV.But once you ever did change hv coil to higher KV.That frequency may change again so your coil can be calibrated to match source.

For the spark gap,I have a few 470V surge arrester(gas discharge tube). Can I connect them in series to substitute the spark gap? How many of them do I need?
Ans:Please do not use those.Try to construct a adjustable spark gap or as mentioned use motor vehicle spark plug(used or unused) but the spark gap need to be made narrow.This can be done by using hammer or piler to knock down the L shape a bit so that it's closer to the center of spark plug.I'd believe this save time.

For the coil,I wound approx 90 turns bifilar. I measured its inductance using a LC meter and it says 115.34uH. When I inserted a few ferrite toroids into it (not too deep), its inductance increased a little bit.
Ans:Nothing to talk about as inserting ferrite into core would increase inductance.

The diameter of the coil is 7.5cm (about 3 inches)
Ans:To be honest the diameter even if the measurement is off a bit it doesn't matter.Since you will need to match "resonance frequency" from hv to (receiver/Kapanadze coil you are constructing).

now I wonder how many turns the resonator coil is and in which way it is wound.
Ans:Not really important once you know the frequency of your Hv transformer.You should able to derive the estimate coil winding with the moveable center core.

and the last question is, how can I get its resonant frequency?
Ans:you will need to tune your coil slowly using ferrite in or out until you get peak voltage.Likely there is more than 1 peak to peak if you move ferrite slowly.But you will need to use the one with the highest peak output from your coil.

This 2 video i'm sure should be sufficient to get you started on how to get resonance using peak to peak observation on oscilloscope.

Finding resonance of telsa coil - 2 ways with and without oscilloscope.I suggest use the oscillioscope approach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5elXZ3IicI

Kapanadze finding the reasonance -somewhere in middle of video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-QvHSyHOuQ

Do revert back once you got the resonance sorted out and frequency of your hv transformer.good luck.

bringdownthezog · « **Reply #18534 on:** August 08, 2013, 03:34:17 PM »

Kapanadze device has been replicated on a small scale. You'll need to keep the same orientation for the toroids, similar to the 2SGen setup by J. Naudin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxCCGNfD2cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IO02JYSZXE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GleKyj3S5C4

http://i.imgur.com/2ARPU7b.gif

http://i.imgur.com/erkd3XW.jpg

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/19-svobodnaya-energiya/8448-beztoplivnyj-generatora-vladimira-pantyuxova.html?limit=18&start=1296

steadyfield · « **Reply #18535 on:** August 08, 2013, 03:48:56 PM »

Quote from: magpwr on August 08, 2013, 02:14:29 PM

Hi steadyfield,

I have a HV module with an output of around 3-4kV sinewave .It draws 12V 0.85A DC when running.Can I use it in this device?
Ans:For merely finding out the resonance of the hand assemble coil this might do the trick for a start.In kapanadze base on observed spark ,i only think the voltage is much higher maybe around 8KV ....15KV.But once you ever did change hv coil to higher KV.That frequency may change again so your coil can be calibrated to match source.

For the spark gap,I have a few 470V surge arrester(gas discharge tube). Can I connect them in series to substitute the spark gap? How many of them do I need?
Ans:Please do not use those.Try to construct a adjustable spark gap or as mentioned use motor vehicle spark plug(used or unused) but the spark gap need to be made narrow.This can be done by using hammer or piler to knock down the L shape a bit so that it's closer to the center of spark plug.I'd believe this save time.

For the coil,I wound approx 90 turns bifilar. I measured its inductance using a LC meter and it says 115.34uH. When I inserted a few ferrite toroids into it (not too deep), its inductance increased a little bit.
Ans:Nothing to talk about as inserting ferrite into core would increase inductance.

The diameter of the coil is 7.5cm (about 3 inches)
Ans:To be honest the diameter even if the measurement is off a bit it doesn't matter.Since you will need to match "resonance frequency" from hv to (receiver/Kapanadze coil you are constructing).

now I wonder how many turns the resonator coil is and in which way it is wound.
Ans:Not really important once you know the frequency of your Hv transformer.You should able to derive the estimate coil winding with the moveable center core.

and the last question is, how can I get its resonant frequency?
Ans:you will need to tune your coil slowly using ferrite in or out until you get peak voltage.Likely there is more than 1 peak to peak if you move ferrite slowly.But you will need to use the one with the highest peak output from your coil.

This 2 video i'm sure should be sufficient to get you started on how to get resonance using peak to peak observation on oscilloscope.

Finding resonance of telsa coil - 2 ways with and without oscilloscope.I suggest use the oscillioscope approach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5elXZ3IicI

Kapanadze finding the reasonance -somewhere in middle of video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-QvHSyHOuQ

Do revert back once you got the resonance sorted out and frequency of your hv transformer.good luck.

Hi,magpwr
well,here's another schematic with the same coil configration.
If you look the schematic carefully,you'll find that the resonator coil L3 is wound cw then ccw.So the magnetic field that the L3 generated is zero.
The L2 and L1 are wound in the same direction.The end of L1 is connected to the end of L2 through the load,so the magnetic fields that L2 and L1 generate cancel each other.So the sum of the inductance of the coil L1,L2 and L3 is nearly zero.It's likely that L1,L2 and L3 forms an inductor with an inductance of zero and this "inductor" is connected in parallel with the capacitor C2.One end of the capacitor is connected to the ground.

In this way,we have nearly no inductance in the LC tank formed by L1,L2,L3 and C2.So theoretically,there will be NO RESONANCE in the LC tank.It seems that the the circuit needs NO TUNNING.That's so strange to me.But I do think the circuit needs unconventional ways of tunning and there are some kinds of resonance in an unconventional way.Do you have an idea of tunning it?

I'm sorry for not being able to explain what I mean clearly,Also for the grammar mistakes.I hope you understand what I mean.

thks a lot!

magpwr · « **Reply #18536 on:** August 08, 2013, 04:42:10 PM »

Quote from: steadyfield on August 08, 2013, 03:48:56 PM

Hi,magpwr
well,here's another schematic with the same coil configration.
If you look the schematic carefully,you'll find that the resonator coil L3 is wound cw then ccw.So the magnetic field that the L3 generated is zero.
The L2 and L1 are wound in the same direction.The end of L1 is connected to the end of L2 through the load,so the magnetic fields that L2 and L1 generate cancel each other.So the sum of the inductance of the coil L1,L2 and L3 is nearly zero.It's likely that L1,L2 and L3 forms an inductor with an inductance of zero and this "inductor" is connected in parallel with the capacitor C2.One end of the capacitor is connected to the ground.

In this way,we have nearly no inductance in the LC tank formed by L1,L2,L3 and C2.So theoretically,there will be NO RESONANCE in the LC tank.It seems that the the circuit needs NO TUNNING.That's so strange to me.But I do think the circuit needs unconventional ways of tunning and there are some kinds of resonance in an unconventional way.Do you have an idea of tunning it?

I'm sorry for not being able to explain what I mean clearly,Also for the grammar mistakes.I hope you understand what I mean.

thks a lot!

Hi,

Honestly i'm unable to advise further on Kapanadze coil since i have not even started building.
The construction of this coil is more complex than the recent few posting i have submitted on ANTANAS /LITHUANIA circuit diagram which needs tuning.But it's only 2 winding which got me interested with OU effect.
If you check on my last few posting just few page back from 1234 downwards to...123x.

Interesting finding you have-

"The L2 and L1 are wound in the same direction.The end of L1 is connected to the end of L2 through the load,so the magnetic fields that L2 and L1 generate cancel each other.So the sum of the inductanc eof the coil L1,L2 and L3 is nearly zero.It's likely that L1,L2 and L3 forms an inductor with an inductance of zero and this "inductor" is connected in parallel with the capacitor C2.One end of the capacitor is connected to the ground.
"

Since i came into this topic rather recently i think the only member "Grumage" and maybe 2 others is actively working on this device.Do check up his posting in this topic.
This was the recent video of his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqjTHmmumU

Grumage · « **Reply #18537 on:** August 08, 2013, 05:12:12 PM »

Dear All.

There seems to be some new interest in the devices recently posted by Sergey. And some new constructors, that's great!! I spent quite a lot of time with this one but found that the Resonator details were missing. With the most recent posts new data has been furnished with regard to said resonator. Namely that it should be 300 turns CW/CCW from center. I have posted a picture of one I wound recently. It is made of 0.72mm dia wire and wound 150 over 150 so as to get a length suitable to fall within the outer coils length. I am currently waiting for a price on some Nanoperm toroids to fit within the coil tube.

For those that may not have seen my original experiments with this device....................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXIca35GeIY

I was using a Royer oscillator driver instead of the spark gap generator.

I hope the above is of some use to our very welcome newcomers.

Cheers Grum.

MenofFather · « **Reply #18538 on:** August 08, 2013, 05:59:46 PM »

Quote from: steadyfield on August 08, 2013, 10:37:03 AM

Hi,
I wound 98 bifilar turns on a 75mm PVC tube with 1mm^2 wire.I measured its inductance and it says 113uH.I think my coil would be close to the original one in the video.
我在直径为75mm的PVC管上用1平方的电线双线并绕了98匝。我测量了它的电感量为113uH。我认为我绕的线圈应该接近于原始视频中的线圈。

Do not count on fixed parameters.The tunning process is more important than the fixed parameters.
不要依赖于固定的参数。调谐的过程比固定的参数更重要。

However,I have no idea how to tune the device now.
但是，我现在不知如何给装置调到共振状态。

I would appreciate it if anyone can help me with the tunning process.

I can make mistake, but maybe author of video say, that need makr strong magnetic field. This makes, then you find resonance and then from coil (secondary) gose stremers.
He put on russian forum doc file with this text.
"[22:25:10]: привет еще раз.
[22:25:14]: Привет
[22:25:33]: Сейчас рисовалку создам.
[22:26:10]: www.twiddla.com
[22:28:52] Эффект заключается в следующем, необходимо создать мощное магнитное поле внутри алюминиевой трубы, чтобы возбудить сердечник
[22:29:32] И как это можно сделать?
[22:30:03] Это будет если ты точно попадешь в резонансную частоту LC контура.
[22:30:33] Так при подключении нагрузки резонанс пропадет
[22:31:18] Нет.
[22:31:40] Почему?
[22:32:03] Из за высокого напряжения и алюмелевый трубы.
[22:32:47] Но резонансная частота будет одна единственная для каждого LC контура!
[22:33:05] то есть мне для своего контура придется искать свою частоту?
[22:33:48] Да.
[22:34:00] икак это сделать?
[22:35:06] Если частота найдена, то с бифилярной катушки стримеры начнут появляться
[22:36:15] т.е фитонка7
[22:36:33] Да
[22:36:59] Ясно
[22:37:09] Потом можно подключать нагрузку определенную
[22:38:18] Определённую?
[22:40:14] Вся установка будет работать в том случае, если правильно подберешь нагрузку, это делятся просто. Начинать нужно с 500 Вт и по 100-200 Вт добавлять. Я запустил с нагрузкой 2 кВт на данный момент.
[22:41:04] А наноперм какой нужен?
[22:41:35] Я использовал наноперм ленту с магнитной проницаемостью примерно 25-30 тыс.
[22:41:45] Какая ширина ленты и сколько витков
[22:42:06] Ширина 2 см, 17,5 витков
[22:42:20] понял
[22:43:07] Положение материала в трубе оказывает огромное влияние на работу, так что при настойке лучше его крепко зафиксировать. Наматывать равномерно чтобы виток от витка были на одном расстоянии.
[22:43:12] Расстояние любое?
[22:43:38] Примерно 1-2 мм, как выйдет , главное чтобы одинаковое"
I think maybe Гост video is fake, but it maybe make real with nanoperm. So I dont know how you help, because Гост video can be fake, because author of it put it on 1 april, but Icaco copied it, so you see copy video, but not original video an Icaco is not author of this video. Original video be deleted after about 5-20 days.

MenofFather · « **Reply #18539 on:** August 08, 2013, 06:34:54 PM »

Quote from: bringdownthezog on August 08, 2013, 03:34:17 PM

Kapanadze device has been replicated on a small scale. You'll need to keep the same orientation for the toroids, similar to the 2SGen setup by J. Naudin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxCCGNfD2cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IO02JYSZXE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GleKyj3S5C4

http://i.imgur.com/2ARPU7b.gif

http://i.imgur.com/erkd3XW.jpg

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/19-svobodnaya-energiya/8448-beztoplivnyj-generatora-vladimira-pantyuxova.html?limit=18&start=1296

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