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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12725287 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18300 on: July 24, 2013, 09:18:32 AM »

What would happen if the primary coil of an insulation transformer is connected to 60Hz mains whereas its secondary coil is connected in series (as choke) to an inverter and a load running at 50Hz? Is the load -according to Rhythmodynamics- powered by the 60Hz grid (negative resistance) or the 50Hz inverter (positive resistance)?

Just asking. ;D


  ??? Inverters are designed to run on DC, not AC.

  ??? What is an 'insulation' transformer?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18301 on: July 24, 2013, 09:30:07 AM »
I need some advice in polishing glass.
I can not use this one as glasses to my lead helmet I.m designing to make
But it might  be good for lead box to  view of what is going on with Colman.



Wesley :)

Use fine silicon carbide or aluminium oxide and finish by polishing with pitch and cerium oxide. Search on grinding and polishing telescope mirrors for more info.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18302 on: July 24, 2013, 02:40:20 PM »
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??? What is an 'insulation' transformer?
To explain it sharp-witted: It is a transformer that insulates.

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??? Inverters are designed to run on DC, not AC.
Inverters are also designed to output AC, not DC.

Now back on track: What about the orange wire which connects the lamps to the tin can? Since this wire can carry around 25 amps it should be connected to something in that tin also suitable for 25 amps (another sharp-witted finding). This narrows down even more the hidden parts in the tin can coming into question.

Could the orange wire be connected to a semiconductor (diode, transistor, thyristor, etc.)? I don't think so because such a component would generate a lot of heat when a current of 25 amps runs through it. Hence a semiconductor would need a heat sink, but putting a heat sink into a tin can seems not the wisest idea to be.

So what's remaining out of the pool of electronic parts? A coil or a capacitor? Or a coil and a capacitor? If the orange wire is connected to a coil in the tin then that coil must be wound with a very thick wire suitable for 25 amps. That means there is not much room left for a lot of windings. But the fewer the windings the higher the resonant frequency of that coil (or LC circuit). Therefore the question arises: What is the frequency the coil (or LC circuit) should be suitable for? Is it 50Hz coming from the inverter, or is it a few KHz coming from the high voltage generator (flyback)?

And one more point: When TK pulls the plug of the inverter, then the lamps still have to be in a closed circuit. That means there has to be a cross-connection of some kind in the tin between the orange cable and the grounded white cable (second wire to the lamps).

Sorry, if no one can follow this. Maybe it's just too simple. ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18303 on: July 24, 2013, 05:00:46 PM »
  We can speculate all we want, but only by building, will you find out what works, and what doesn't. If it's so simple, then, why not build it?  At least try your ideas out.

  Cepren B:  Have you tried to build any of your mentioned devices?  You seam to have the knowledge.

 Magnetic resonance seams to be the key, but not at the level of nuclear decay, but by harvesting the force of so called "gravity", instead, or the power of the Vortex.
Tesla was and is right....

  Common guys, lets build something... At least you'll have a base to continue to experiment. Let's not let this thread be of just arm chair critics. 2000 pages of talk.

  We still need a proven diagram, a working device to follow, and someone that we lead this group.  Not the blind leading the blind.  Meaning me, not you...

  aKing:  Where are you???  Are you not telling all?  Why don't you rattle our cage, at bit.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18304 on: July 24, 2013, 06:37:06 PM »

Sorry, if no one can follow this. Maybe it's just too simple. ;D

IMO its simple enough to build, so lets get building as Nick suggests  :) . See simplified schematic attached of my proposed replication. Note the 2-stage switching, which if switched incorrectly connects 230V from the grid directly to the primary of the step-down transformer whilst the inverter is running, thereby causing the loud 'noise' we here on the video!

Edit: An additional pole to switch S1 is needed on the input to the thyristor chopper to prevent the inverter output from feeding the lamps when switch S2 is 'closed' with S1 'open' (stage 1).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18305 on: July 24, 2013, 09:40:07 PM »
Congratulations! Nice drawing. ;D

Note the 2-stage switching, which if switched incorrectly connects 230V from the grid directly to the primary of the step-down transformer whilst the inverter is running, thereby causing the loud 'noise' we here on the video!
Let's see what we have here: »230V Live« means a) a hidden wire suitable for 25 amps b) a hidden »Thyristor Chopper« which can also cope with 25 amps c) two switches (S1 and S2) when both closed connecting the output of the inverter to 230V mains without melting down the output stage of this inverter (don't know how loud the noise could be during a meltdown). Actually I'm rather doubtful if this schematic could ever do a reliable job (of faking).

In addition there is one more thing to consider: The »230V Live« source must be dimensioned for a current of 25 amps. What happens in case of a short circuit? Will it set the whole house on fire? In Central Germany the fuses in the fuse boxes are commonly rated at 16 amps. So I couldn't replicate this trickery even if I want to (without manipulating the fuse box). The sealed main circuit breaker here is rated at 63 amps. So it's too bad but trying to fake TK's 100KW device would surely blow the main fuse here. What a pity! But maybe in Georgia the fuses are much stronger.

Common guys, lets build something... At least you'll have a base to continue to experiment. Let's not let this thread be of just arm chair critics. 2000 pages of talk.
At page 20,000 we could call this thread »20,000 Leagues Under The Truth«. :P

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18306 on: July 24, 2013, 11:13:01 PM »
Congratulations! Nice drawing. ;D
Let's see what we have here: »230V Live« means a) a hidden wire suitable for 25 amps b) a hidden »Thyristor Chopper« which can also cope with 25 amps c) two switches (S1 and S2) when both closed connecting the output of the inverter to 230V mains without melting down the output stage of this inverter (don't know how loud the noise could be during a meltdown). Actually I'm rather doubtful if this schematic could ever do a reliable job (of faking).

In addition there is one more thing to consider: The »230V Live« source must be dimensioned for a current of 25 amps. What happens in case of a short circuit? Will it set the whole house on fire? In Central Germany the fuses in the fuse boxes are commonly rated at 16 amps. So I couldn't replicate this trickery even if I want to (without manipulating the fuse box). The sealed main circuit breaker here is rated at 63 amps. So it's too bad but trying to fake TK's 100KW device would surely blow the main fuse here. What a pity! But maybe in Georgia the fuses are much stronger.
At page 20,000 we could call this thread »20,000 Leagues Under The Truth«. :P

You forget that a clamp meter will not read an HF chopped mains current accurately. Do you really think that TK would make it easy for investigators to obtain meaningful meter readings and surely you noticed the violently fluctuating readings when the guy tried measuring the voltage across the lamps in the 'Green box' garden video.

Have you filled in the big question mark on your schematic, so that others can attempt a replication of your proposal for the real McCoy?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18307 on: July 25, 2013, 01:32:27 AM »
Tariel because I'll be back behind the investors in the 21st century?
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfHCwbUxzbiu7ncxPXkBYEg?feature=watch

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18308 on: July 25, 2013, 02:20:21 AM »
surely you noticed the violently fluctuating readings when the guy tried measuring the voltage across the lamps in the 'Green box' garden video.
You are talking about the same violently fluctuating readings like in this video?

Of course there are fluctuating readings because of a spark polluting the whole setup. But this does not mean this spark is really necessary. A spark acts like a fast switch for high voltage. But I can't see how a fast switch should contribute to an additional energy output of the setup. Early Tesla had no other means than using a spark. A modern transistor can easily create high voltage with a frequency in the range of hundreds of KHz without a spark. So why using still a spark? Because it is more photogenic?

But since TK's five light bulbs are each rated at 1000 watts then the power output should be 5000 watts regardless of the fluctuating readings. Maybe TK has faked the light bulbs too.

Have you filled in the big question mark on your schematic, so that others can attempt a replication of your proposal for the real McCoy?
Actually I'm waiting for others to fill in the big question mark, so I can attempt a replication of my proposal for the real McCoy. 8)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18308 on: July 25, 2013, 02:20:21 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18309 on: July 25, 2013, 03:22:45 AM »
Zeitmaschine

You have a black box,x current goes in ,y current goes out,
no data,no clues.You can only guess whats there.
When the big coil discharges the spark, it induces a voltage spike on the coil inside,
that coil carries ac,that mixes with it,this is what causes the inability to read the ac voltage
 across the bulbs,the cheap clampmeter has a weird ability to read phantom currents,this adds to the show
by showing false ground currents,the aim is its a Tesla invention.Its
impossible to determine anything with either the 2004 video or the green box video,there are no clues.Both video's are great for skeptics ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18310 on: July 25, 2013, 07:28:15 AM »
  No clues is the idea. He's not trying to help anyone but himself.  I can't blame him.
At least he shows us the possibilities, then it's up to us to solve the riddle, or not to.
 I am very thankful, even for that. Otherwise we would never even have a clue that such a thing is even possible.
  With all the witnesses to all his different devices, and not one person has ever caught anything faked, ever. They are not just all dummies with cameras and cell phones taking pictures, some of them know what to look for.  I wish that Hoppy had been one of them.

  We'll have to wait until something more replicable comes around. What a shame...
a very very real shame.     Or, we can start to do more about it.  How about it???

  My heartfelt reason tells me that what we see in those videos is as it really is, no more and no less. We must connect the dots.

   Although I couldn't find it now, I know that I've seen the video where TK shows what is in the tin can. It was an big iron core transformer, as I've mentioned previously. Of that I'm sure.
  Possibly the big filter capacitor and rectifier that Akula used, works in the very same or  similar way.  To drop the voltage, as there is HV to filter down and convert to 12v DC, to keep the battery charged.

  Itsu: I liked your latest video, I hope that you can reach some positive results. Good luck.
 
  Keep the faith guys..

                                     NickZ
 
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18311 on: July 25, 2013, 08:37:37 AM »

Let's see what we have here: »230V Live« means a) a hidden wire suitable for 25 amps b) a hidden »Thyristor Chopper« which can also cope with 25 amps c) two switches (S1 and S2) when both closed connecting the output of the inverter to 230V mains without melting down the output stage of this inverter (don't know how loud the noise could be during a meltdown). Actually I'm rather doubtful if this schematic could ever do a reliable job (of faking).


Why should it take out the inverter output stage as TK's inverter is most likely using a conventional iron transformer output. Anyone using an HF based electronic inverter for this type of application is sure to run into trouble.

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« Reply #18312 on: July 25, 2013, 08:59:50 AM »
You are talking about the same violently fluctuating readings like in this video?

Of course there are fluctuating readings because of a spark polluting the whole setup. But this does not mean this spark is really necessary. A spark acts like a fast switch for high voltage. But I can't see how a fast switch should contribute to an additional energy output of the setup. Early Tesla had no other means than using a spark. A modern transistor can easily create high voltage with a frequency in the range of hundreds of KHz without a spark. So why using still a spark? Because it is more photogenic?

But since TK's five light bulbs are each rated at 1000 watts then the power output should be 5000 watts regardless of the fluctuating readings. Maybe TK has faked the light bulbs too.
Actually I'm waiting for others to fill in the big question mark, so I can attempt a replication of my proposal for the real McCoy. 8)

The video you refer to is faked!

 ???   Why should the lamp power dissipation be 5000W just because the five bulbs are rated at 1000W each, given that we don't know what voltage was being applied across the bulbs, as the guys meter measurement was fluctuating wildly?

 ???    If you are expecting others to fill in the big gap in your schematic for you, then how will it be a replication of your proposal?

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« Reply #18313 on: July 25, 2013, 10:05:33 AM »
A modern transistor can easily create high voltage with a frequency in the range of hundreds of KHz without a spark. So why using still a spark?
Spark-gaps are still a higher voltage and a faster ON-switches than any transistor.  They are slower OFF-switches than transistors, though.
Single transistors above 1200V are hard to get and expensive and I have never seen a single transistor capable of switching more than 3kV.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18314 on: July 25, 2013, 10:33:33 AM »
IMO its simple enough to build, so lets get building as Nick suggests  :) . See simplified schematic attached of my proposed replication. Note the 2-stage switching, which if switched incorrectly connects 230V from the grid directly to the primary of the step-down transformer whilst the inverter is running, thereby causing the loud 'noise' we here on the video!

Edit: An additional pole to switch S1 is needed on the input to the thyristor chopper to prevent the inverter output from feeding the lamps when switch S2 is 'closed' with S1 'open' (stage 1).
Dear hoppy i have only one doubt please tell me why there is no loud noise at here on the video(05:38 and 08:35). Tk directly connects 230V supply from the grid to the primary of the step-down transformer at this time  (05:38 and 08:35 from Tk's 2004 video).........

 

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