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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12736857 times)

Offline elementSix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18255 on: July 22, 2013, 12:28:45 AM »
Maybe the Earth has something to do with it.  The field orientation or the rotational direction.  or not...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18256 on: July 22, 2013, 12:38:58 AM »
Can someone help me with this NUB question.  When I use the disruptive discharge from the HV Capacitor into the Primary and spark gap.  It has to be unidirectional.  What would you use for the impulse to easily go through but not be able to come back.  Remember that it is an Impulse wave and not a normal pulse.  Wouldn't a HV diode burn up?  Or would the impulse abruptness from the make and break be enough to be unidirectional, I mean if its done properly.  With a proper abrupt impulse their should be little to no tail and barely a rise time.  If I am saying that correctly.  It should be damped out as quickly as possible.  I am having problems with keeping up the fast impulse rate. I don't want to use a magnetic quench or high pressure air line to blow out the arc.  I have not yet ordered my CDI, so till I get the money to buy all sorts of them and find one that works best I am using other means.  I read somewhere about a Thyristor that turns off when the current hits zero On a capacitor.  Can someone tell me what kind of circuit does that with HV DC that is used in the manner that I need?? 
                     Thanks again.    e6
P.S.  I was thinking something along the lines of this PIC..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18257 on: July 22, 2013, 01:00:27 AM »
the voltage is positive or negative with respect to ground
Maybe the Earth has something to do with it.  The field orientation or the rotational direction.  or not...
Interesting. But cold is cold and hot is hot. It can't be reversed easily as it seems.

To me it looks like as if the wire ending of the secondary coil which is wound near to the ferrite core (inner layer) is always cold and the wire ending that is wound remote from the core (outer layer) is always hot. But this does not explain why it behaves that way. ???

And, also just to think that in almost 10 years, since the first TK device, no one has been able to figure out exactly how any of his multiple devices work.  Or the Daly, SR 193, Akula 0083, or ANY of the other related working devices.
Perhaps it works just too simple for our highly trained minds. :)

So what about this device?

Let's assume for a moment that this device is not (completely) fake, then the high voltage generator in the little grey box is a clue. To get ground current high voltage is needed (none of the TK patents even mention high voltage, hence the patents seem to be just mumbo-jumbo). There can't be any noteworthy ground current without high voltage. The high voltage provides the coupling between the device and the ground (actually the cosmic capacitor). But since this grey box looks like an off-the-shelf spark generator obviously the kind of high voltage does not really matter. Any high voltage should do it.

Now if there is a flyback in the tin can shown in the 2004 video that generates the high voltage, then there is not much room left in this small box for lots of other stuff. That's a clue too. That means the high voltage takes care of the ground coupling. But what takes care of the coupling between high voltage and the 50Hz (resonant) circuit? It can't be the big visible coil in front of the device, otherwise a) TK would not have presented it in such a prominent way b) the coil would not look completely different in almost each setup c) there would have been a successful replication a long time ago.

That's why the empty space surrounding the big stupid question mark below has to be filled in with something more meaningful, like a (50Hz) resonant coil connected to high voltage (without blowing up the whole thing of course ::) ).

And yes, the bottom end of the high voltage coil is intentionally left open, because there is no need for a closed circuit in order to get high voltage with respect to ground. And that means this is not an ordinary transformer, but a transformer which supplies current at its secondary coil without forming a closed circuit. Maybe that's another clue. Principle of work of Tariel Kapanadze's device

At 24:33 Kapanadze pulls the plug while the device is running, therefore the inverter that provides the 50Hz frequency is cut off abruptly from the device but for a brief moment the device keeps oscillating and generating power nevertheless. How can that be? Can that be because there is a 50Hz resonant LC circuit in the tin can which keeps oscillating for a second (and drawing energy from ground obviously) even without being connected to the inverter?

So the task should be: Connect a grounded incandescent lamp to floating 220V/50Hz, put a resonant LC circuit between, apply somehow high voltage to it and place the LC circuit in a Faraday cage. Although I'm not sure whether the latter is actually required or not.

BTW: I still don't see why the generation of high voltage should require two transistors. A flyback in a TV works without exception with just one transistor (like seen in the aquarium II device).

As I see TK's setup, the inverter supplies a step-down transformer for the spark gap pulser and the hidden grid feed directly supplies the power to run the lamp load.
Could you please try the following: Build a fake (aquarium) device, showcase it to some unsuspicious observers and then measure the time how long it takes until the fake gets busted (in front of a recording video camera). I would roughly guess around ten minutes or so. :P

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18258 on: July 22, 2013, 01:07:55 AM »
On a lighter note...  Has anyone ever run a FlyBack with a circuit from a CFL??  It looks cool and if you buy a good  high watt CFL, it should last a good while..
Link to CFL Page

http://www.instructables.com/id/MAKE-A-HIGH-VOLTAGE-SUPPLY-IN-5-MINUTES/step2/Some-Info-about-Flyback-Transformers/
Could TK be using the transistors to pulse HV DC?  I am sure there is a circuit using two transistors that can do that. But I'm sure you guys would of figured that out by know..
F_ck TK.  He is greedy and crafty.  His group of buddys are a bunch of ex red mafia guys who are all waiting for a free ride and they look like a bunch of junkies..
Let's put it to rest.  If you haven't tried the Tesla Impulse tech, then you are not looking for FE.  You are on this forum for other reasons.  I know you have to have been reading my posts.  I haven't really posted it in everyone's face, but it works.  Thats as simple as it gets.  If you follow the stringent requirements to get the result that we all are on here for, then you will have what your looking for.  Once I get a few bucks to try the CDI, then I can put out a more detailed circuit.  If you know how then this should be easy to find.  Now if you try it and it doesn't work, then call me a Liar and I will send you a time and place to meet so I can show your face into the concrete. JK.   
 I know that it needs a lot more work.  I can't get it to work constantly, but I am getting there.  The longest I had it run was 3 min..  It only works with filament light bulbs and heaters.  Why that is I have no idea.  Maybe some one can help me in that department.  One more thing, don't do what I did, the first time I got it to work.  I dumped 6 MOT caps into the circuit and it wiped out my cpu and my multi-meter. EMP tech seems to be the same.  Thats the stinging sensation that Tesla felt when he first discovered DC impulse tech.
Can anyone explain how a simple circuit gets 10 million Volts out of a 12 volt battery, in a stun gun???

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18259 on: July 22, 2013, 01:22:00 AM »
Check this video out guys
At the time the Turkey videos were been made,this was made it appears to be a demo for a production TK device.The weakness is The ground wire maybe a ground wire,or 2 wires feeding a limited amount of current to start things moving because it has no feedback or its a grid connection
and thats where the power comes from,also it should have
been raised up by a see through support.Because you can not pin down TK stuff into a definative yes its real or no its fake,that is why he has not been taken out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTCi93m7U



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18260 on: July 22, 2013, 04:49:55 AM »
Hi E6,
 
If you have something that runs up to 3mins, please spell it out so others can replicate and maybe help to improve.
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18261 on: July 22, 2013, 08:42:49 AM »
@cheapower2012, this vid I first saw about 6 years ago and got me on the trail of Kapanadze, referred to as the booth vid.
Tidied up for production by TMZ but shelved.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18262 on: July 22, 2013, 09:13:50 AM »
Zeitmaschine wrote: -

 "Could you please try the following: Build a fake (aquarium) device, showcase it to some unsuspicious observers and then measure the time how long it takes until the fake gets busted (in front of a recording video camera). I would roughly guess around ten minutes or so."


How do we know that TK's aqua2 device was properly examined? We have no video evidence of this. At least with the Green Box device video, we see a guy floating around with a clamp meter.

How about if I build a fake Aqua2 and then get my mate to video and post it under a different name and he commissions his own investigating team to be present in the video. If his investigating team then take no measurements as in TK's video, will you then declare this video as genuine as you have done with the Aqua2? My mate will of course tell you that the investigating team had already removed the ground wire and found no hidden wires.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18263 on: July 22, 2013, 01:54:07 PM »
To Hoppy,

Merely "eyeballing" a video doesn't means you can easily prove it's fake on the spot within 10minutes.

I would only believe you if you have a Russian friend and you have actually duplicate a Kapanadze device as it is to prove if it's fake or the real deal.

Like wise if 20 or 30 years ago if i told you a car can run on water.You can laugh at me like a fool.
That is what makes science so interesting sometime there is no direct right or wrong answer.

You definitely dare not say a "crystal radio" is fake although technically it's also powered by a form of radiation which we are aware of.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18264 on: July 22, 2013, 03:06:52 PM »
To Hoppy,

Merely "eyeballing" a video doesn't means you can easily prove it's fake on the spot within 10minutes.

I would only believe you if you have a Russian friend and you have actually duplicate a Kapanadze device as it is to prove if it's fake or the real deal.


Agreed, but why believe me if I happened to have a Russian friend that I may have duped into believing my faked device was the real deal?  ???

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18265 on: July 22, 2013, 07:38:09 PM »
On a lighter note...  Has anyone ever run a FlyBack with a circuit from a CFL??  It looks cool and if you buy a good  high watt CFL, it should last a good while..
Link to CFL Page

http://www.instructables.com/id/MAKE-A-HIGH-VOLTAGE-SUPPLY-IN-5-MINUTES/step2/Some-Info-about-Flyback-Transformers/
Could TK be using the transistors to pulse HV DC?  I am sure there is a circuit using two transistors that can do that. But I'm sure you guys would of figured that out by know..
F_ck TK.  He is greedy and crafty.  His group of buddys are a bunch of ex red mafia guys who are all waiting for a free ride and they look like a bunch of junkies..
Let's put it to rest.  If you haven't tried the Tesla Impulse tech, then you are not looking for FE.  You are on this forum for other reasons.  I know you have to have been reading my posts.  I haven't really posted it in everyone's face, but it works.  Thats as simple as it gets.  If you follow the stringent requirements to get the result that we all are on here for, then you will have what your looking for.  Once I get a few bucks to try the CDI, then I can put out a more detailed circuit.  If you know how then this should be easy to find.  Now if you try it and it doesn't work, then call me a Liar and I will send you a time and place to meet so I can show your face into the concrete. JK.   
 I know that it needs a lot more work.  I can't get it to work constantly, but I am getting there.  The longest I had it run was 3 min..  It only works with filament light bulbs and heaters.  Why that is I have no idea.  Maybe some one can help me in that department.  One more thing, don't do what I did, the first time I got it to work.  I dumped 6 MOT caps into the circuit and it wiped out my cpu and my multi-meter. EMP tech seems to be the same.  Thats the stinging sensation that Tesla felt when he first discovered DC impulse tech.
Can anyone explain how a simple circuit gets 10 million Volts out of a 12 volt battery, in a stun gun???

                                             Love  e6

Dear Element 6.

There will be no need for "Concrete" :)  I do believe you!! Please scan a simple sketch of your concept.

I was having a chat with T-1000 last night and he was telling me that whilst testing a device that had a caduceus coil primary a nearby remote control went haywire...... LED's lighting up and so forth. Needless to say it never worked again!! He put it down to "standing wave/scalar wave" generation. Now that got me to thinking? What if we are going about this in the wrong way? I wondered if we were to place the primary and secondary of a Tesla type device in the heart and then with a larger tube, possibly wrapped with aluminium sheet and finally an outer wrapping of wire turns we could capture these "scalar waves" before they managed to escape and wreak havock with both electronics and flesh!!  A bit like dear Zeitmaschine's Faraday cage, but in reverse so to speak!! I think a load would have to be permanently connected just to make sure.

I think I may have a clue as to why Inductive loads don't work, it is probably due to BEMF being generated in opposition to the HF input.

Any way as I and NickZ have probably got the only test rigs available, and ready, I suppose I had better give it a try. So dear E6, if you don't want your schematic common knolwedge please PM with what you are using to to "sting flesh" and I will try to tame it!! :)

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18266 on: July 22, 2013, 09:15:17 PM »

What if we are going about this in the wrong way? I wondered if we were to place the primary and secondary of a Tesla type device in the heart and then with a larger tube, possibly wrapped with aluminium sheet and finally an outer wrapping of wire turns we could capture these "scalar waves" before they managed to escape and wreak havock with both electronics and flesh!!  A bit like dear Zeitmaschine's Faraday cage, but in reverse so to speak!! I think a load would have to be permanently connected just to make sure.

Cheers Grum.

Evening Grum,

If the schematic inter-wiring is ignored and the mult-turn choke becomes the secondary Tesla coil with one of the outer coils at one end of the tube surrounding the secondary acting as the primary, then an aluminium sheet wrapped around and above the secondary coil, could act as a top load for the Tesla coil. The remaining coils could then be for pickup.

Please don't use your home mains earth when experimenting at high energy levels. if you wish to employ an earth, then put down a separate rod earth in your garden. I've done a fair bit of experimenting with Tesla type coil setups and made that mistake!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18267 on: July 22, 2013, 09:55:07 PM »
Evening Grum,

If the schematic inter-wiring is ignored and the mult-turn choke becomes the secondary Tesla coil with one of the outer coils at one end of the tube surrounding the secondary acting as the primary, then an aluminium sheet wrapped around and above the secondary coil, could act as a top load for the Tesla coil. The remaining coils could then be for pickup.

Please don't use your home mains earth when experimenting at high energy levels. if you wish to employ an earth, then put down a separate rod earth in your garden. I've done a fair bit of experimenting with Tesla type coil setups and made that mistake!

Dear Hoppy.

Thanks for that!! I have been so "into it" I had not seen the connection, it is like a Tesla coil within a tube!! I do have a seperate earth rod but with the move I have not got round to extending it into the new spot.

I have just finished winding the latest choke so I am off now to see what it does. At low power of course!! :)

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18268 on: July 22, 2013, 09:59:28 PM »
   Zeit:
   I feel that you are completely right.  As no one to my knowledge has really even tried to replicate any of TK devices, to the T.  Exactly as he has it, tin can and all its goddies. Maybe the tin can does more than just hide the contents, also?  As it is located directly at the end of the air coil. Akula also mentioned placing a transformer inside of a magnetic field. Hendershot also places an iron core transformer inside of his home made capacitor/coil.
  Wasn't the insides of what is in the tin can shown in a later garden video? Showing that it has only a big iron core transformer, to step down the voltage??? Possibly along with a rectifier and cap to tune the frequency, also?
  We have made this all too complicated, TK only used a 12v battery/inverter, a couple of transistors, wire coils, iron core transformers, a cap or two... and right in his bedroom, produced the results that we can't even imagine.  Akula shows us that no ground, or battery are really even needed, after start up.

  And so have several others... on the island, in the snow, etz...
The only hidden wires are the ones in our heads, that we haven't yet connected, 
to make this work.
   

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« Reply #18269 on: July 23, 2013, 01:04:33 AM »
Hey Hey Hey My MY, Thinking about what a friend had said, I was hoping it was a lie. 

Well this morning I was thinking on my on question,  since the impulse wave that appears on the secondary is more akin to an EMP(Electro Magnetic Pulse), the combination of the negative and positive lines.  It works well with filament lights and heater elements because they are both devices that use that energy combined to create the heat/light.   When referring to HF in the Impulse division,  you are talking only about the speed of succession  of the impulses.  Little explosions inside of the primary because this will not work with AC, it's a DC system only.  It works without the capacitor, but the capacitor magnifies the effect by releasing the gates of hell.   I do know that the HELIX coil has the strangest effect when introduced to a working field of reactive radiant energy.  Tesla found this out,  and using this special secondary "His Helix Copper line" with his special primary/circular disruptor line , capacitor and magnetic quench.  He was able to get 240,000 Volts from his 10,000 Volt DC Dynamo.  This was achieved only by following a strict format in which the disruptor line and the special helix secondary's mass was the same.   The best line to use for the disruptor was ribbon.  Like the copper ribbon that TK used in his Red Coil transparent box setup.  I posted some Impulse circuits the other week.  I think it was like6 or 8 weeks ago.  Not to sure, but the impulse wave generator that worked best was one with all the capacitors were connected in parallel with both contacts connected to a long copper ribbon.

Here is a PDF that talks about Impulse waveforms and impulse circuits.
http://203.158.253.140/media/e-Book/Engineer/Electrical/High%20Voltage%20Engineering/22862_06b.pdf

So you can Experiment with a helix coil inside of the disruptor line circle.  Just to get info on this phenomenon.   The main problem I have is getting the Impulse Wave to be Straight up and down.  Thats why I wanted to try to find and older CDI module for a car, but I want one with a Thyristor.  Like Meincenko or what ever his name is.  He used like 8 Thyristors in his setup.  They are the High Power ones used in Steel mills because of the great impulse they can make.  The best way that Tesla found for a discharge device was in Electric Arc Dischargers.   I think that maybe an ARC Lamp can be used in this circuit.  It seems to take all the current out of the DC that goes threw it.   I think that might have something to do with the way this works.  The resonance that must be maintained,  might be part of not having any amps being used in the coils.  Just a thought..

 

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