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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406363 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18240 on: July 19, 2013, 02:42:48 PM »

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« Reply #18241 on: July 19, 2013, 02:56:28 PM »

descripiton:
The invention relates to a device that comprises at least three sets (A, B, C, D) of at least one device for generating an electromagnetic field (3) and (4), powered by an electricity source - without a core or with at least one core - the cores thereof or any extension thereof, preferably the windings or sets of windings thereof, being surrounded by at least a single conductive element forming a polarized and energized closed-circuit with itself (5), said sets of electromagnetic-field generating devices (3) and (4) being linked together by the opposing poles thereof to encourage the interaction of the electromagnetic fields thereof, which are preferably allocated between two hollow metal half-spheres (1) so as to concentrate and enhance the electromagnetic fields thereof, these interconnections causing, as a novel technical effect, the emergence of an electrical current that circulates, with or without voltage, in the conductive element forming a closed-circuit with itself (5) - point of the connections of the external loads - even if no load is placed thereon.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18242 on: July 19, 2013, 03:13:51 PM »
There is no point to repeat the "methodology"
I see a point that makes it worth considering these clandestine electric power delivery "methodologies". 
Namely, devising a way to detect these "methods" for similar FUTURE devices.

@Hoppy
How would you detect this method of electric power delivery other than eyeballing?
...also for DC.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18243 on: July 19, 2013, 04:08:27 PM »
I see a point that makes it worth considering these clandestine electric power delivery "methodologies". 
Namely, devising a way to detect these "methods" for similar FUTURE devices.

@Hoppy
How would you detect this method of electric power delivery other than eyeballing?
...also for DC.

I would use a 'sniffer' coil and current probe on a portable hand-held scope. The secret is to get an investigation team that are aware of most of the 'tricks in the book' and then go suitably equipped to carry out non-invasive measuring because clearly, in TK's case, he does not allow disconnections for understandable reasons! In the case of a.kings team spokesman, he came across from the outset on the Aqua2 video as being convinced that he was witnessing a self-runner, without even displaying, let alone using a measuring instrument! Baroutologos talks about a plethora of ways to cheat an audience, so lets identify a few more in the case of TK's devices.

Edit: Also an I/R thermal measuring device to detect heat levels above ambient on the 'bright'.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18244 on: July 19, 2013, 07:12:48 PM »
I agree.

P.S.
Please don't reinforce the bad spelling of the "braid" for the ESL members.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18245 on: July 19, 2013, 07:45:52 PM »
Further to my post 18183 and for those wishing to build a replication of TK's Aqua2, I have attached three photos of how I believe TK faked the Aqua2 device using hidden wires inside the copper braided screen
Precisely! And in 2004 video the investor forgot to look under the table for hidden wires, because he was occupied with rubbing his eyes while observing the unbelievable amp measurements. ;D

The only reason I post this particular method of faking the aqua2 is that it comes into the category of being 'so simple it would make you laugh'
And I just thought the only reason for posing this is »someone here is getting too close to a simple working device«. 8)

Found the bank patent device Brazil, hopefully you have any clue to evolution of projects.
If these patents have the same »quality« like the TK patents then I'm sure no one here has the slightest clue. :(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18246 on: July 19, 2013, 08:58:22 PM »
     In a charged capacitor the power of the capacitor can be calculated by how many amp hours through a known resistance will it make happen.    A funny thing happens when your load is an inductor.     You short the damn cap and it charges up again.  Now some people are dumb enough to insert a resistor in this oscillating circuit to develop some conversion of current into voltage across the inserted resistor.   This is then transferred to various amplification devices to use local electrical energy to recreate the oscillations they just destroyed.    Whereas some smarter people put current transducers around the buss conductors to measure the magnetic flow into and out of the conductor that don't damp the oscillations.   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18247 on: July 20, 2013, 05:04:53 AM »
Just a little more info in a pic.  Just for people searching on google.  I could use help explaining the current amp in a better way.  Ow well  Kapanadze schematic explanation.  Tariel Kapanadze circuit, Kapanadze schematic , Tesla and Tariel similarities. 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18248 on: July 20, 2013, 06:45:08 AM »
Precisely! And in 2004 video the investor forgot to look under the table for hidden wires, because he was occupied with rubbing his eyes while observing the unbelievable amp measurements. ;D
And I just thought the only reason for posing this is »someone here is getting too close to a simple working device«. 8)
If these patents have the same »quality« like the TK patents then I'm sure no one here has the slightest clue. :(
@ Zeitmaschine
I can’t able to believe Tk’s 2004 device is fake because of two reasons. There is a possible way to connect hidden power supply under the tin can. I think no other possible ways…
1. He plugged the two pin from the inverter to the grid supply we can able to hear different noise (transformer overload) and after he removed the plug from the socket mysterious noise will be stopped how? (2004 video 11:16)

2.After making the self run he tried to remove the wire from the grid supply at that time the whole bulbs will be turned off. (2004 video 12:45). If he connect hidden power supply under the tin can how it is possible….Otherwise he placed step-down transformer with relay inside the inverter also not possible…

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18249 on: July 20, 2013, 11:17:11 AM »
I failed again
275v  0.47u
275v  0.33u
250v  0.56u
630v  0.68u
1000v     1u
next 
i  will think of  some  other ways to make it work

For example, increase or decrease some coil

maybe one of the shaded motor ,, must change or modified the rotor with neodymium magnet ,,and to be a generator ,,,to supply a power to other motor

johan

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18250 on: July 20, 2013, 11:19:35 AM »
@ Zeitmaschine
I can’t able to believe Tk’s 2004 device is fake because of two reasons. There is a possible way to connect hidden power supply under the tin can. I think no other possible ways…
1. He plugged the two pin from the inverter to the grid supply we can able to hear different noise (transformer overload) and after he removed the plug from the socket mysterious noise will be stopped how? (2004 video 11:16)

2.After making the self run he tried to remove the wire from the grid supply at that time the whole bulbs will be turned off. (2004 video 12:45). If he connect hidden power supply under the tin can how it is possible….Otherwise he placed step-down transformer with relay inside the inverter also not possible…

The mysterious noise was most likely two separate 230AC supplies: 1) Direct from grid and 2) from inverter output, being connected together but running out of phase with each other when the noise occurred.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18251 on: July 20, 2013, 04:19:01 PM »
The mysterious noise was most likely two separate 230AC supplies: 1) Direct from grid and 2) from inverter output, being connected together but running out of phase with each other when the noise occurred.
Most of the inverters will give only one output at a time( one from direct supply from grid and other one is 12v- 220 AC supply from step-up transformer). Mechanical relay will be automatically turn on and off according to the power input supply(Grid supply or 12v from battery)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18252 on: July 20, 2013, 06:17:39 PM »
Most of the inverters will give only one output at a time( one from direct supply from grid and other one is 12v- 220 AC supply from step-up transformer). Mechanical relay will be automatically turn on and off according to the power input supply(Grid supply or 12v from battery)

As I see TK's setup, the inverter supplies a step-down transformer for the spark gap pulser and the hidden grid feed directly supplies the power to run the lamp load. However, TK's switching arrangement appears not to be isolating the two supplies at all times. There has to be a changeover whereby when the battery is disconnected, the grid is switched in to maintain a supply to the spark gap pulser. There appears to be a situation with the switching, where the grid supply can be switched into the primary of the step-down transformer whilst the inverter is still powered up - thus the noise! In order for the spark gap to be appearing to control the output power to the lamp load, TK needs to ensure that the spark gap is functioning correctly before switching on the lamps (thus two stage switching) otherwise the lamps could be lit whilst the spark gap was inoperative under a fault condition - not a good situation for the investors to witness! The inverter is necessary to initially supply the spark gap as well as to give the impression that the system is feeding / looping back enough 'free energy' to the inverter to keep the show running without a need for the battery.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18253 on: July 21, 2013, 06:00:30 PM »
A fundamental high voltage question, just for fun: Looking at the HV inverter transformer below, why is it that the high voltage output (with respect to ground) always stays on the hot side (right hand) of the secondary coil, regardless of the polarity of the pulsing current supplied to the primary coil?

Reversing the polarity of the primary coil does not make the cold pin hot and vice-versa. Even trying this with a flyback the high voltage stays always on the hot pin, regardless of the winding direction of the primary coil(s). Why is that so? Any ideas?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #18254 on: July 21, 2013, 07:24:47 PM »
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Reversing the polarity of the primary coil does not make the cold pin hot and vice-versa.

The cold side is meant one grounded and the hot side to cha has the voltage is positive or negative with respect to ground

Leo48