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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12793265 times)

Offline VenomTT

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #180 on: July 04, 2009, 05:18:01 PM »
HI everyone:

This look pretty similar to Donald L. Smith device.

https://secure.netsolhost.com/www.nuenergy.org/product_catalog.htm

And this is what I found on the internet research about him.

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1078

I wish i would be true, because it is really simple to replicate, not like the TPU from Steven Mark.

Regards.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #181 on: July 04, 2009, 05:29:49 PM »
@samedsoft,
This looks like a joule thief with a secondary which has been "tanked" and another transformer after the spark to a second secondary with yet another spark producing enough energy for the lights.

Basic joule thief with secondary (see Pirate's joule thief thread)
20TBase coil, 6TCollector coil , 0.18mm wire; 1800T secondary. (Hmm I better start winding!)
Transistor KT829A
Base resistor 3.8K ohm
Base cap C2= 0.01 MK? is that pF?
2 batteries in series, unknown voltage with battery cap.

T2 (Tank? 2)
L2 10T 0.35mm
L3 a bunch of words. -- can somebody translate, please?
This circuit has 2 diodes added to a RLC tank and produces a spark. I wonder why that is needed?* I suppose those words will help to explain.

Finally there are 4 parallel caps which work with the T2 L2 to produce another spark at SG2.

This is now regulated from 12v dc to 220 volts ac and lights the lights.

Is this right?
I would love to know those words.

thank you,

jeanna

* I wonder if the spark will raise the voltage even more than the joule thief, or if maybe they don't have the joule thief operating at peak potential.

In fact, a lot of that joule thief up to the T2L2 looks like a fuji circuit. hmm.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #182 on: July 04, 2009, 05:35:24 PM »
Dear Jeanna,

   Thanks for your interest on Russian picture, I found this on Russian forum via translator... Somebody suggests that this is the system used in Tariel Kapanadze's system

   I dont know Russian indeed.. We need a Russian speaker to translate the notes on the picture..

   I guess from this that Germans have replicated Mathertiha and converted to Tesla's system??

Dear Harti,

   http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=tr&js=n&u=http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=


   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #182 on: July 04, 2009, 05:35:24 PM »
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Offline xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #183 on: July 04, 2009, 05:55:57 PM »
Wow ! Groundloop, that circuit is fascinating !
I can try to find IR2106, 7812, LM741P descriptions to simulate it in SPICE, but i agree that it should work as intended.

Very exciting to soon see the first prototypes of this soon built by some of the contributors here. 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #184 on: July 04, 2009, 06:00:58 PM »
@jeanna,

The first stage is a oscillator with a high turn output transformer,
just as a Joule thief, as you said. The two
diodes is series is just a way of getting a high voltage
diode. If you use the 1N4007 then you can handle up to
1000 volt. With two in series you can handle 2000 volt etc.
The first stage outputs high AC voltage and the two diodes
make that AC to pulsed DC. The capacitor will charge up and
when the voltage is high enough, the spark gap will go off,
thus putting the capacitor in parallel with the next coil.

If you want a more powerful Joule thief, then just buy one of the attached toys.
The neon sign runs from 4 AAA batteries. (6 volt.)

Attached is a small circuit I've been working on. Not finished yet. Will report back when completed.
The first part of the circuit, right up to C1 and C2, is the actual circuit
found inside the neon toy.

Also attached a image that show the inside of the neon toy.

Added the small tesla coil I have added to the neon toy. Waiting for
the glue to cure. :-)

Groundloop.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2009, 09:06:39 PM by Groundloop »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Offline jeanna

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #185 on: July 04, 2009, 06:22:29 PM »

diodes is series is just a way of getting a high voltage
diode. .... the spark gap will go off,
thus putting the capacitor in parallel with the next coil.

Thanks groundloop.

I was wondering why the spark is needed?
There is already a very fast vibration, unless, it is not tuned well, so the spark is going off putting the cap in parallel with the next coil.
I am afraid I don't understand your meaning.
Why does a spark put the cap in parallel with the next coil?

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If you want a more powerful Joule thief, then just buy one of the attached toys.
The neon sign runs from 4 AAA batteries. (6 volt.)

Tee hee.  ;) :D
I already do...
 I have run a fluorescent tube for 5 hours from 1.2 volt AA battery, and my Joule thief--- off the secondary. no doides , no spark either... Neons too. I have several that light them right up!

I am wanting to get the level one above where I am. The one depicted in the final circuit with the 4 caps in parallel that lights those lights.

Of course, I am assuming those lights are the 100 watt incandescent ones from the video. Maybe they are not. Maybe I have all I need.

thank you,

jeanna

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #186 on: July 04, 2009, 06:45:07 PM »
Jenna,

Look at the attached drawing. From the Joule Thief you get pulsed direct
current on the output of the diode. This direct current will charge up the
capacitor. When the capacitor reaches high enough voltage then a spark
will fly between the ends of the spark gap. This spark will create ions and
plasma in the air, thus reducing the resistance in the spark to near
zero Ohm. This will allow all the charge in the capacitor to be dumped
into the transformer primary. When the charge in the capacitor is gone
then the spark vanish and the cycle repeats. A spark gap is superior to
all (well most) electronic components when it comes to switching high
voltage at high speed.

Groundloop.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #186 on: July 04, 2009, 06:45:07 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #187 on: July 04, 2009, 06:57:48 PM »
@xenomorphlabs,

I been busy making a small circuit just to test out some stuff, as you can see in my post to Jenna.
I have made a small coil (500 turns) and will use a neon toy electronic to run the coil
and spark gap. That is all I have time for right now. Fun to build stuff. :-)

Groundloop.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #188 on: July 04, 2009, 07:31:31 PM »


   I dont know Russian indeed.. We need a Russian speaker to translate the notes on the picture..


I translated it with girlfriend ;)
Here you go :

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #188 on: July 04, 2009, 07:31:31 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #189 on: July 04, 2009, 07:52:05 PM »
Thank you xenomorphlabs!! - and girlfriend!!

This makes a difference

The "joule thief" core is only iron clad and may not even be a toroid, (the 2 dots make me think it is) so he may NEED to have that SG1 just to get enough oscillation added to his joule thief.

The T2 is iron core and oriented to 4 high capacity capacitors. This might be the only part needed beyond a well tuned joule thief with secondary.

My secondaries more often than not produce ac, so for the reason groundloop described, a spark would not be necessary for them to work.
I could just add the next level iron core transformer and see.
An iron core with 4  high voltage caps in parallel.
This must be another tank.
(I don't ever get anything on a cap at that place without a full bridge to rectify it all.)
I wonder if iron core might be ferrite or even ferrite toroid?

I usually start small. I will add one cap and see.

Thank you,

jeanna

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #190 on: July 04, 2009, 08:11:38 PM »
@ Groundloop : Happy to hear that you already building !

@ All:
That ominous "katcher" (which might be a cyrillic accident for the english word "catcher" and associated to Brovin)
made us look on russian websites for a description of it and this is what we found:

http://www.radiokot.ru/lab/analog/20/ (Choose a online translator of your choice)

It is really worth to check it out !
For the Joule Thief specialists here it might be trivial though, i cannot judge that hehe.
Just wanted to find out what the katcher in Kapanadze´s circuit would actually be.

I can suggest also : http://www.online-translator.com
or Abby Lingvo (Standalone program, but very good !)

The "katcher" is described as a generator of energy from the ether.
Since you might wanna understand what the illustrations translate to, i attach translated versions here.
Seems like there is many russians far advanced in this field, it is quite popular for russian electronic hobbyists to research free energy.

Tesla-Brovin generator:
http://online-video.su/video/13975

Maybe the illustrations he shows are of any interest to someone here.
Its 25 minutes that would make it tedious to translate though even if it might be of any significance for this thread here :/
« Last Edit: July 04, 2009, 08:52:17 PM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #191 on: July 04, 2009, 10:33:11 PM »
Yep Xeno  ;D

You werent the only translator who thought ''(Kacher)''....WTF is that? 

The same goes for PELSHO! 

Any progress anyone?  I have many joule thief's and a tesla coil which i built myself.  Can I actually work out whats going on here?  When Stefan was chatting earlier he got me going with that video of the russian guy and the bulb on a single wire transmission.  Made me think even a wally like me might get those free electrons sooner or later!   I'll defo be trying the single wire transmission as soon as possible....just gotta build another air core coil identical to the secondary in my teasla coil by the looks of it....

right...????  for starters anyway!

Anyone who knows the path to righteousness please show me the way  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #192 on: July 04, 2009, 10:39:35 PM »
On Alexander Frolov´s Youtube channel there is a translation to the 2 earth ground diagram.
Again if that was posted before translated, i apologize for posting it a 2nd time.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #193 on: July 05, 2009, 01:54:09 AM »
Yep Xeno  ;D

...

The same goes for PELSHO! 

Any progress anyone?  I have many joule thief's and a tesla coil which i built myself.  Can I actually work out whats going on here? 

..
right...????  for starters anyway!

Anyone who knows the path to righteousness please show me the way  ;D
I guess you missed the post from xeno
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I have found some information on that ominous word ПЭШЛО (Pelsho) in the coil specifications.
It is a name for enamelled wire in silk threads isolation.
I did some research a while back and I think it is litz wire, because litz used to be covered in silk.

For starters?
You are ahead of many.
You know how to put together a joule thief

(with a secondary, I assume?)

And a tesla coil.

You're doing great!

jeanna

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #194 on: July 05, 2009, 05:55:47 AM »
@ALL,
This is excellent info coming in here now, I have been away on other matters this last week.
I made two overseas calls this morning, one to Pirate (good friend of mine) and to another chap, both are overwhelmed at the excellent responces to the information flowing in about the initial video which was posted.
 
I am still reading on P2, groan, a lot to catch up on, but I have an idea on how to measure the frequencies of this device via the net.

OK the people here are pritty smart and probably know of this method so I am presenting it for those who might not know.
A long ways back in Pirates JT forum I astounded a few readers by measuring the frequenc a JT was running at by using the computer sound output to the loud speaker.
It wasnt spot on, but it gave an very close indication of the actual frequency (a toroid was singing its head off).

I fed the output on the Left or Right channnel of the PC into an audio transformer, then fed the output from that into a frequency meter.

Has anyone on this forum tried this? I ask as the humming of this EB device is quite distinct, and it should be possible to get the frequency nailed down to a close figure, especially if several different people carried out this test together, and all results were close to each others.

Mabe there are other tests that could be done via the net, I don't know but nothing is impossible.

jim

 

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