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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13964026 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17880 on: June 10, 2013, 10:38:21 PM »
At some point the electric field becomes irresistable and the electrons leave the atomic mass and are accelerated towards the holes in the positively charged plate.
Are you referring to the emission of electrons from the negative electrode of a capacitor by high high electric field, including vacuum capacitors ?

If the dielectric is a gas the electrons have a greater degree of freedom before  interacting with other electrons and or nuclei.
That's different than a vacuum capacitor.
Yes, electrons have higher mobility in a gas than in a solid or liquid.

They gain velocity from the electric field due to the charge polarization existing between the two capacitor plates.    A single electron leaving the parent atom can cause ionization of a second atom which is accelerated causing an electron avalanche. 
In order to cause an avalanche, primary electrons have to cause more than one secondary electron emissions from ionized atoms, on average.
Do you think that the collective kinetic energy of the secondary electrons is greater than the primary electron's ?  If "yes" - why?

This causes a large current pulse moving at large fractions of the speed of light towards the anode.  If the anode is coated with a solid dielectric the current pulse falls short of total dielectric breakdown of the capacitor.
Yes, the gaseous dielectric becomes avalanche-ionized but the solid dielectric does not.

The effects of a large number of electrons aggregating on the face of the electrode is to create an accelerating force on the remaining electrons in the anode plate via quantum tunneling.
Why?
I'd think that electrons aggregating on the surface of the coated positive electrode, create their own negative electric cloud (a virtual cathode), that opposes the initial electric field between the capacitor electrodes and reduces the acceleration of the primary electrons originating at the negative electrode.

Eventually, that negative electron cloud will be capable of bypassing  the solid dielectric coat of the positive electrode by sideways creepage or dielectric breakdown, if it is allowed to grow to a high charge density and magnitude.  Electrons that get to the positive electrode of the capacitor will be lost due to conduction.

I believe what occurs in this case is that accelerated electrons (beta radiation)  either directly enter the proton or cause inner valence electrons to make a quantum leap to the core of the proton.   
To accelerate an electron to a kinetic energy of a beta particle, the voltage between the electrodes of the capacitor would have to be ~500kV.  See here and here.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17881 on: June 11, 2013, 07:04:39 AM »
verpies, can you compute the degradation progress of ferrite yoke in your theory ? how long does it work for 2 to 5kW output ?
if it's measurable then the proof would be an Akula circuit in small size , then measure weight loss ?

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« Reply #17882 on: June 11, 2013, 08:18:29 AM »
verpies, can you compute the degradation progress of ferrite yoke in your theory ? how long does it work for 2 to 5kW output ?
if it's measurable then the proof would be an Akula circuit in small size , then measure weight loss ?
I did the βNMR energy density calculation for zinc-cobalt ferrite once and I remember coming up with the energy equivalent to 22000 liters of gasoline for 1kg of this ferrite.  See here.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17883 on: June 11, 2013, 08:35:42 AM »
I did the βNMR energy density calculation for zinc-cobalt ferrite once and I remember coming up with the energy equivalent to 20000 liters of gasoline for 1kg of this ferrite.  See here.


At least something interesting...now we have to weight yoke and compute how fast it would degrade while powering 1kW load, but don't you see the problem here ? in fact every good inverter has the ferrite core transofrmer inside. How are they able to run continously for years !?


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« Reply #17884 on: June 11, 2013, 09:29:22 AM »
At least something interesting...now we have to weight yoke and compute how fast it would degrade while powering 1kW load,
If you consider the mass-energy equivalency (E=mc2) then the energy density of matter is so high that you would not be able to measure a sub milligram mass difference of several TeraJoules out of a 1kg chunk of matter, with ordinary weight scales.
After all, 1kg of matter = 89,876 TeraJoules of energy. See here.

It's important to note that beta decay does not convert all of the mass into energy because a beta particle (fast electron) has ~1830 less mass than a nucleon (proton or neutron) and most elements have tens of nucleons.
For example, the ratio of electron's mass to the iron nucleus is ~1:100000.

but don't you see the problem here ? in fact every good inverter has the ferrite core transformer inside. How are they able to run continuously for years !?
That's rigorous thinking.
The answer is: Ordinary inverters do not create suitable conditions for the ferrite to undergo stimulated beta decay. They only use the high permeability of the ferrite core to complete magnetic circuits of their transformers and inductors.

For RF βNMR stimulation of this matter-to-energy conversion, a high permeability of the Gain Medium actually hurts the whole process, because the skin effect prevents the penetration of RF deep into the Gain Medium.  See here.
That's why, in his patent Michael Meyer recommends first getting rid of the high permeability of his iron core (by saturation) before attempting to convert it to energy via RF stimulation.

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« Reply #17885 on: June 11, 2013, 05:27:17 PM »
In order to cause an avalanche, primary electrons have to cause more than one secondary electron emissions from ionized atoms, on average.Do you think that the collective kinetic energy of the secondary electrons is greater than the primary electron's ?  If "yes" - why?


  Yes because the secondary electrons are accelerated by the electric field whereas when they were bound they were not.  Ionization is a simple conversion of electron mass.  Any change in the electron mass is accompanied by radiation.  If this radiation is of a wavelength that results in the optimum wavelength for ionization of "receiver" atoms then the first incident photon invested can result in  avalanche ionization.   This creates a large number of free electrons that respond to the accelerating electric field between charged capacitor plates.   If your capacitor plates have an insulated cathode and an uninsulated anode then the electrons will bombard the anode.  The first electrons to arrive would fill the holes in the anode which would collapse the accelerating field.  The electrons still continue to arrive due to their inertia and their electric field displaces electrons in the anode which results in a current pulse traveling through the wire attached to the anode.  This current pulse is in the same direction as the charging current.   The transient then can be filtered or damped in an rlc where l is the load to be driven.  The problem with this is there is anode heating due to the deacceleration of the fast electrons within the metal of the anode.    This is why an insulated anode is better.  The electric field of the electrons will pass through the dielectric but not the actual electrons.  The space charge builds up and insulates the anode but the current pulse is still inititiated in the output circuits.  The system is then relaxed.  The space electrons now find themselves attracted to the ions and migrate back and become atoms again.  As the electrons drop into valence orbitals a secondary photon event is produced and results in a glow zone. This is all derived from work done by Crookes.  He would put two pieces of metal in a bottle.  Hook the two pieces of metal up to a high voltage supply then evacuate the bottles to varying degrees and observe and record the effects.  Tesla found out about this science directly from Crookes and being the applied science genious he was went to work using the first particle accelerators to grace the Earth.
  Plants use magnesium as the gain medium.  Ultraviolet light from the sun cause ionization of the magnesium atoms.  This free electron is a pretty fast electron.  The kinetic energy of a free electron is in excess of the energy needed to ionize the electron.  It is so simple.  The electron had kinetic energy when it was bound so why would it just decide to loose this kinetic energy when it was unbound?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17886 on: June 11, 2013, 07:05:53 PM »
In order to cause an avalanche, primary electrons have to cause more than one secondary electron emissions from ionized atoms, on average.Do you think that the collective kinetic energy of the secondary electrons is greater than the primary electron's ?  If "yes" - why?


  Yes because the secondary electrons are accelerated by the electric field whereas when they were bound they were not.  Ionization is a simple conversion of electron mass.  Any change in the electron mass is accompanied by radiation.  If this radiation is of a wavelength that results in the optimum wavelength for ionization of "receiver" atoms then the first incident photon invested can result in  avalanche ionization.   This creates a large number of free electrons that respond to the accelerating electric field between charged capacitor plates.   If your capacitor plates have an insulated cathode and an uninsulated anode then the electrons will bombard the anode.  The first electrons to arrive would fill the holes in the anode which would collapse the accelerating field.  The electrons still continue to arrive due to their inertia and their electric field displaces electrons in the anode which results in a current pulse traveling through the wire attached to the anode.  This current pulse is in the same direction as the charging current.   The transient then can be filtered or damped in an rlc where l is the load to be driven.  The problem with this is there is anode heating due to the deacceleration of the fast electrons within the metal of the anode.    This is why an insulated anode is better.  The electric field of the electrons will pass through the dielectric but not the actual electrons.  The space charge builds up and insulates the anode but the current pulse is still inititiated in the output circuits.  The system is then relaxed.  The space electrons now find themselves attracted to the ions and migrate back and become atoms again.  As the electrons drop into valence orbitals a secondary photon event is produced and results in a glow zone. This is all derived from work done by Crookes.  He would put two pieces of metal in a bottle.  Hook the two pieces of metal up to a high voltage supply then evacuate the bottles to varying degrees and observe and record the effects.  Tesla found out about this science directly from Crookes and being the applied science genious he was went to work using the first particle accelerators to grace the Earth.




hahaha... I have the same thoughts more or less regarding the potential of using the electric field (instead of magnetic field) for energy generation. Almost a week ago i have PM verpies with a "concept" of such hypothetical device for evaluation and point out the wrong thinking of course.


In general, i was thinking, as you sparks say, an Insulated capacitor plates of tremendous E-field, between them, and on one hand a spiked lower voltage cathode (heated or not) creating a corrona effect or in hard vaccum etc that will release electrons between the plates that will naturally be accelarated by the E-field and on the other hand a plate or grid that will harvest them. In the mean space the accelarated electrons to be slowed down by inductive means transfering energy to a coil. (in resonance or not)


Of course, after making an preliminary research to get a basic understanding of the values involved have found that capacitance of plates of say 10cm x 10cm spaced few cm away is redicoulusly low (10-20 pf) and the spacing of few cm do not allow the deployment of any inductive means... let aside the whole concept does not address the question of where the energy should be coming from... its like managing to harvest energy from magnets.


cheers,

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« Reply #17887 on: June 11, 2013, 08:29:09 PM »
Ionization is a simple conversion of electron mass.
The rest mass?

Any change in the electron mass is accompanied by radiation.
Do you mean electron's relativistic mass due to motion or its rest mass?

If your capacitor plates have an insulated cathode and an uninsulated anode then the electrons will bombard the anode.  The first electrons to arrive would fill the holes in the anode which would collapse the accelerating field. 
Are you implying that the voltage across the capacitor (accelerating electric field) remains unaffected before the first electron arrives at the anode?

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« Reply #17888 on: June 11, 2013, 11:33:35 PM »
THIS is for every One That I promised I would tell them how I achieved the Intensifying effect of feeble Input energy.   I  am very sorry it took so long, but My partner in crime, got scarred off, He said it was because it actually worked and he didn't want to cause problems for his family.  He thought I was Full of shit when I asked him to help me in this work.  Then we got large spikes of energy while playing with 12V power supply that ran into another small transformer.  The outputs of that transformer had one wire going to a round disc from a hard drive and the other wire was connected to an electrolytic capacitor that was grounded on its other terminal.  On the 12 Volt input I had the negative 12V wire as a spark gap and the other I just connected it directly to the other transformer.  But I had to use a neo magnet to create the arc.  Without the magnetic quench it would not create a spark gap, it was a small wall socket type of transformer I took apart and connect up a Bridge rectifier.  When I would get a good spark the wire from the ground connection and the opposite wire that was connected to an elevated terminal would get a large current spike that lasted about a second.  It was at a certain resonant frequency.  So I knew then that everything Tariel said was true.  The Tesla patent that I went off of and am now updating is Patent 685,953.  METHOD OF INTENSIFYING EFFECTS TRANSMITTED THROUGH NATURAL MEDIA.  There are 4 patents that pertain to this subject.  The device uses two pates.  Tesla use steel plates for his device.  The plates can be both in the ground or both in the air, they can also have one in the ground and one in the air.   Tariel Kapandaze Used all three setups I believe.   I will try to borrow a camera in the next month and show everyone what they need to do.  But If I can figure it out, then you guys certainly can.  I will need help in creating a Circuit to adjust the input for Resonance.  Without it, the device will not work very well.  The spinning cylinder that tesla used can be replaced with transistors and a spark gap.  The gap I believe creates the frequency's for it to all work, but I could be wrong.  I will put the links to the patents below and read them.  Don't just skim thru them.  I would also recommend reading Tesla's Colorado notes or that interview that I posted the other day.  Its on the page also, but its toward the bottom of the web page.   If anyone can sujest what circuit I should use as an input, I would appreciate it.  I was thinking of using a Ramp Generator or a Phase Locked Loop.  Just a thought.   I wish you luck..  I do need help, I am not a circuit expert.  Thanks and Peace.
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,953-intensifying-transmitted-effects
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,954-natural-media-transmitting
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,955-utilizing-transmitted-effects
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,956-natural-media-transmitting

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« Reply #17889 on: June 12, 2013, 12:54:04 AM »
Всем здрасте !!

As i said couple a months ago there was started Energetic Revolution on this planet. As times going there will be as much as possible OU devices for humankind. This will push Massive Global change in all areas and bring this planet on the new basis in social organization, science, politics economy and all discipline of human mind activity. This is a process which can't be stopped because is controlling by our Ancestors on all 7 levels of Physical Reality in our part of Universe.

So in Brasilia Dr.Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz has made significant breakthrough in understanding and spreading Tesla Technologies in a right time. Of course with some help of Tariel Kapanadze. There are two finished OU devices one 6.6 kWatts and another 250KWatts. Braisilia like one of Free County and a Leader in South America will have very big influence on other countries in the world first in energetic and than in all other aspects.

You should watch these video on Portuguese language about new Brasilian OU devices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSP7h73u-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nxdiFxgcvM

The Brasilian Free Energy site is: http://energiauniversal.eco.br

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And of course you should inform yourself about Dr. Antônio Carlos M. de Queiroz - The Pioneer of Tesla Technologies in South America.


Short Info from his Home Page

Dr. Antônio Carlos Moreirão de Queiroz is Associate Professor at COPPE, Electrical Engineering Program, and at the Electronic and Computer Engineering Department of the Polytechnic School, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (UFRJ). He obtained the B. Sc in electronic engineering (1979) from UFRJ, and the M. Sc. (1984) and D. Sc. (1990), in electrical engineering, from COPPE/UFRJ. His current interests are in circuit theory, switched-current filter structures and analysis methods, techniques for the design of high-frequency continuous-time filters, approximation techniques for general-purpose filters, analysis and simulation techniques for electronic circuits, radiofrequency circuits, and history of science.

One of the Best Site about Nikolai Tesla Technologies. Many interesting articles, programs and important informations with great number of experiments and oscillogram proofs.
You shoud have upper level of Mathematics and Physics knowledge to keep atention on his thoughts and ideas. I recomend to all folowers of Tesla Tecnhnologies.

Dr. Antônio Carlos Moreirão de Queiroz
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/index.html

Technical documentation by Dr. Antônio Carlos Moreirão de Queiroz
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/papers/papers.html



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17890 on: June 12, 2013, 01:12:35 AM »
Thanks for the pics Cepren B..  Thats it right there.  He is doing the same thing.  That brazillian Dr..

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« Reply #17891 on: June 12, 2013, 01:48:26 AM »
Thanks for the pics Cepren B..  Thats it right there.  He is doing the same thing.  That brazillian Dr..

Thanks for reply elementSix !!  :D

More OU devices run in Russia for a present time. As i know minimum 2 of these work day and night in Russia (maybe much much more). Author of device is Дмитрий. Idea he got from his young daughter. Interesting he has made a theory and after theory successfully constructed his first device after great numbers of hard experiments and a lot of burning components. Same like Tesla. Tesla said that he had burnt large number of devices untill he hadn't learned how to make them. So don't listen theorists - make own experiments and get knew knowledge and try to get new informations and analyse them - learning on own errors. It's the only way which lead to success not only in this area but in all.

Дмитрий OU device

Two Tesla Magnify Transformers looped one to another and work like Transmiter and Receiver and vice versa. This Дмитрий system is extremely hard for tuning because great number of parameters. What he has done is PLL with both Tesla Magnify Transformers withouth solid state components. Honestly i didn't succeed to replicate his system for now. It's another example that all which look very simple of the firt glance is not simple at all. Who don't belive let fire high energy sparks through CW and CCW wounded coils with different lenght and coupling factors, with and withouth heavy grounding using large number of spark gaps.  Simple for every winding turn use own spark gap and you will know what am talking about. I can say that all kind of spark colours you can get from Дмитрий system. It's some kind of Full Colour Spark Machine. The colours were results of different interactions TT (Tesla Transformers) with surrounding environment - Aether or Ether. Something similar colours i have seen only in old experiments of Eric Dollard in his vacuum light bulbs. These beauty remember me on the colours of Universe like in this video of Svarga or Perun Road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mon_X5T1Pfg



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« Reply #17892 on: June 12, 2013, 02:07:12 AM »
More devices run in Russia. As i know 2 of these work day and night in Russia. Author of device is Дмитрий. Idea he got from his young daughter. Interesting he has made a theory and after theory successfully constructed his first device after great numbers of hard experiments and a lot of burning components. Same like Tesla. He had said that he had burrn large number of devices untill he had learned how to make them. So don't listen theorist - make own experiments and learn to get new informations and analyse them- learn on own errors. It's the only way which lead to succeed not only in this area but in all.

To realize how all those devices are operating you migh try hard to find answers to non-conventional technical test questions I made for seing what is general level of knowledge:

1. What is standing wave?
2. How N. Tesla wireless power system works? Please describe briefly on main principles.
3. What is NMR and can we have energy from this effect?
4. If we can get energy from NMR process, what method do we use to we harvest energy?
5. Can we use secondary electron emission effect on dialectric without vacuum?
6. If 5) is yes, please describe briefly how we can harvest energy from this effect?
7. What are ancient pyramids function ? Your opinion will be interesting to hear.

If you will be able to answer to my questions the answers will blow your mind when you will think about making practical free energy generator.. ;)

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« Reply #17893 on: June 12, 2013, 02:44:28 AM »
  I don't believe that we can even determine the rest mass of a bound electron.  We can however determine the relativistic mass if we can determine the velocity of the bound electron.  Take the unbound electron rest mass and add the mass gain due to it's velocity.  This gives us the relativistic mass of the bound electron.  The difference in the two masses (bound and unbound) is the amount of mass converted into energy by ionization of the electron. 


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« Reply #17894 on: June 12, 2013, 02:59:56 AM »
Those 7 can't be answered briefly and shortly T-1000. Right ?? Yes Right !! So answers on all your questions (and many more you didn't asked) you can find here:

Теория возникновения СЕ - Дмитрий.rar
номер: 6560793, размер: 9,5 Мб, размещён: 2013-06-12 04:55

http://webfile.ru/6560793

ps: You remember what Tesla said in his old ages when somebody asked him what is in fact Electricity. And what he had said: "I am 83 years old and i still don't know What The Electricity Is  !!".  :D

Maybe you know answer T-1000 ?? ;)

ps2: my question for you is very simple: Where i can find and how a "Living Water" on this planet ? Don't answer briefly and shortly T-1000 !!  :D

ps2a: Couple UFO pictures found on Realstrannik forum before have been deleted !!.... Gues why T-1000 ??  :)

ps4a: "THEY LIVE"....