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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15116253 times)

Offline idzaza

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17055 on: April 18, 2013, 11:57:28 AM »
I did not noticed  anything suspicious


As far as ground wire. Even if there is no ground there is ground as artificial ground called counterpoise
So if there is  even  sort of hanging wire it would act as  ground.
That is concept of every antenna. Body  of car is the counterpoise to dipol.


Show me exactly minute of the frame.
For me as for now  video is genuine.

Wesley

Hi all,

The video you are talking the one with a schematic at the end is not a genuine one, the schematic is not working as has been said on the other forums, originally he made two videos separate and without schematics in it. One was inside the house and the other one outside, and then someone put together and adds his own schematic, so do not waste your time on that schematic. I saw his original schematic on the website was cyber something I think. I look for it and will add here. The videos were only for 1 day I think and then it has been deleted from YouTube and other websites. On the link given here he has only 5 videos left http://video.yandex.ru/users/akula0083/.

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idzaza


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17056 on: April 18, 2013, 12:13:12 PM »
I did not noticed  anything suspicious


As far as ground wire. Even if there is no ground there is ground as artificial ground called counterpoise
So if there is  even  sort of hanging wire it would act as  ground.
That is concept of every antenna. Body  of car is the counterpoise to dipol.


Show me exactly minute of the frame.
For me as for now  video is genuine.


Wesley

Look at end of video from 8.28 mins. There appears to be a cable (or at least something looking like a cable) protruding from the crack in the concrete. There also appears to be signs of a white cable running under the seat of the chair and possibly, although not clear, down the back of the chair leg.  I hope I'm wrong and this is genuine.

A stange thing is that when I first viewed the video link you originally posted, the cable was clearer and I saw a cable dropping from the demo board down towards the back chair leg. This disappeared when I next looked at the video some time later! Was the video edited at some point??

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17057 on: April 18, 2013, 12:34:44 PM »
I do.  Please watch all 3 videos of these Kapanadze motors and let me know of you see a steel disk in all of them (or only brass).
Where can I find these 3 videos? Maybe I'm looking at the wrong ones.

Unidirectional beta current pulse would produce a mechanical recoil and torque. If those pulses occurred at 50Hz it would create a vibration like we hear on that video without foam, when the disks are accelerating.
It would also produce a strong pulse of current in a secondary winding that was in the proximity of the discs - especially if these disks were held stationary.
Means we know how this works but no one is willing to replicate it. (?)

Perhaps TK's subsequent stationary devices evolved out of these moving mechanical motors.
The beta current pulse sure would account for both outputs (mechanical and electric).
So all TK devices are based on the same principle. (?)

No. It would cost $1000 just for those brass disks and most people here believe that this motor works by "energy from ambient" or belts in pillow blocks - not by "energy from matter".
This is effective in preventing the replication of this mechanical TK's device.
Then $1000 just for those brass discs means a) TK did surely not spend $1000 without knowing in advance what he was doing (what the outcome would be), b) it makes it even more strange that a cheaper steel disc (at least one of them) can also do the job.

And I still see no reason why a less expensive scale model could not give any hints on the principle of work. Unfortunately I don't have a workshop (and time) in order to replicate such mechanical devices. :(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17058 on: April 18, 2013, 12:42:11 PM »
Hi all,

The video you are talking the one with a schematic at the end is not a genuine one, the schematic is not working as has been said on the other forums, originally he made two videos separate and without schematics in it. One was inside the house and the other one outside, and then someone put together and adds his own schematic, so do not waste your time on that schematic. I saw his original schematic on the website was cyber something I think. I look for it and will add here. The videos were only for 1 day I think and then it has been deleted from YouTube and other websites. On the link given here he has only 5 videos left http://video.yandex.ru/users/akula0083/.

Regards,
idzaza

Here is his own original schematic he posted on the forum. There is nothing new that you professionals do not have. Looks simple, however we do to know exact frequency windings etc. His name is in Russian
РОМАН КАРНОУХОВ and profile is here http://my.mail.ru/mail/akula0083/. He did not achieve kilowatts of power output but I’ll be very happy with just having even 1 bulb 100 watts running for free than I will improve it :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17059 on: April 18, 2013, 12:46:44 PM »
Look at end of video from 8.28 mins. There appears to be a cable (or at least something looking like a cable) protruding from the crack in the concrete. There also appears to be signs of a white cable running under the seat of the chair and possibly, although not clear, down the back of the chair leg.
I would drill the leg and the concrete. Nobody would notice a 5mm hole and cable in the leg (not a single wire).
Somebody who is on the Russian forum should ask the inventor to lift the whole chair while the operating device is sitting on it.
Otherwise rigorous people like Hoppy will always have doubts.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17060 on: April 18, 2013, 01:02:49 PM »
This guy is talking about electromagnetic field, resonance. He has HV coil in the middle of the coil. Can anyone try tesla classic coil but between the HV secondary and primary wind the wire which will be the output power, this might be the kapanadze coil I think and I have seen this as an evidence. Induction coil induces electromagnetic field and the HV coil amplifies it so in resonance we get amplified power, voltage depends on the amount of windings and amp I guess on the thickness of the cable.
I might be not using all words correctly however, you should be able understand what I mean. Tesla coil is an over unity itself this is what I think good luck to all of us :). I have not done this way yet. Will try in a week time as do not have working parts.

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idzaza

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17061 on: April 18, 2013, 01:23:56 PM »
Induction coil induces electromagnetic field and the HV coil amplifies
HV coil does not amplify the electromagnetic field - it only transforms it.  Induced voltage in the secondary coil can be increased but only at the expense of current draw in the primary. Voltage alone is not power.

it so in resonance we get amplified power,
LC resonance does not amplify energy, but it can be used to concentrate AC energy it in time just like any capacitor concentrates DC energy in time when it is charged slowly and discharged rapidly. Energy per time equals power. The catch is that this concentrated power cannot be drawn continuously.

voltage depends on the amount of windings
Yes and it also depends on how quickly the magnetic field changes in the coil.  (If it is not an air-core coil then the permeability of the core affects the induced voltage, too).

and amp I guess on the thickness of the cable.
The resistance of the winding (proportional to the square of its thickness) limits the current that can flow in that winding, BUT it is not responsible for creating that current.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17062 on: April 18, 2013, 02:44:50 PM »
Where can I find these 3 videos? Maybe I'm looking at the wrong ones.
Here are the links to the different clips of the Kapanadze mechanical motor with two large rotating disks:
Video Clip1 - a guy is looking in the hole in one of the base beams.
Video Clip2a - the best one IMO
Video Clip2b - shot with a different camera than 2a
Video Clip3 - the aquarium video with German voice-over and the odd white foam.

Also here at 36:54 and at 40:32 in the Clip2a, you can clearly hear the characteristic spin-up vibrations and compare them to the sole bearing noise on spin-down.  IMO these spin-up vibrations are caused by short beta current pulses repeating at low PRF or a motor in the base.

If you listen carefully you will notice that the frequency of the spin-up vibration is constant and does not increase proportionally to the angular speed of the disks (RPMs), however the frequency of the bearing noise (low rumbling) does vary with the angular speed (during spin-ups and spin-downs). 
A motor hidden in the base would create a speed dependent vibration on-spin-up, unless the belts in the pillow block bearings were slipping (lot of friction).
Don't you think that observation is significant?

Also, note that at this point in this clip, the belt on the generator pulley is taken-off and the previous belt-squeaking noises are absent.

For your amusement watch how at 32:22 of Clip2a,  TK yells "Danger, Radiation!  Run!" and people run away. 
Does this prove that radiation was on TK's mind when he was working on his device in 2002 or that he has a propensity for dramatics?  ...you decide...

So all TK devices are based on the same principle. (?)
Why not?
It is more probable that TK has stumbled upon one operating principle and developed it, than that he stumbled upon two distinct principles.

Then $1000 just for those brass discs means a) TK did surely not spend $1000 without knowing in advance what he was doing (what the outcome would be),
Unless he already had those disks in his scrap yard for free. (...or sheet brass to make them out of it).
Also, I think 10 years ago brass was cheaper than now.

b) it makes it even more strange that a cheaper steel disc (at least one of them) can also do the job.
IMO a steel disk is is good only for magnetic flux guiding and as a counterbalance to the brass disk.  The beta current pulses cannot be stimulated in iron (or in steel) without saturating it first (like in the Michael Meyer patent).

And I still see no reason why a less expensive scale model could not give any hints on the principle of work.
A smaller device might work but not as well as the large one because smaller devices require higher RF stimulating frequency and the penetration depth of RF into conductors decreases with increasing frequency (and permeability)  :(

Small devices operating at high frequencies would require non-conductive cores, most likely made out of pressed non-conductive powders - like in the Colman tube.
This is because the penetration depth of RF increases with increasing resistivity.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 05:59:53 PM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17063 on: April 18, 2013, 02:57:48 PM »
Here is his own original schematic he posted on the forum. There is nothing new that you professionals do not have. Looks simple, however we do to know exact frequency windings etc. His name is in Russian
РОМАН КАРНОУХОВ and profile is here http://my.mail.ru/mail/akula0083/. He did not achieve kilowatts of power output but I’ll be very happy with just having even 1 bulb 100 watts running for free than I will improve it :)


Tesla coils, resonance, ground etc. This thread tries to loop itself to ancient overunity beliefs that beyond boubt have been investigated by all of us and we found out what we have been always told. No extra energy there.. Imo kapanadze looking setups are extremely suspicious.


I, myself, when i make a project and create a new one, working on the same principle, hardly each project resembles one another in physical look as well as part, coil shapes etc.
No... i do not buy it. :)


Nuclear or radioactive stimulated stuff holds the most promise for me. yea, its hard, but who said OU is easy?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17064 on: April 18, 2013, 03:44:34 PM »
@baroutologos
Are you trying to be politically incorrect and alienate the users of this forum?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17065 on: April 18, 2013, 04:30:17 PM »
:-)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17066 on: April 18, 2013, 04:34:21 PM »
brass discs ???
The percussion disks are not pure brass and they are not flat and not anywhere close to the thickness, that TK had.
Are they cheap?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17067 on: April 18, 2013, 04:39:32 PM »
oops sorry for a long link
I think they can be flatten and are a lot cheaper then a solid brass disc especially from scrap yard if you have a friend working there for example.... just an idea....
about LC circuit : you are wrong verpies  ;D , it can be easily proved with a stable load then in resonance the same physical effect like light for example is obtained by consuming a lot less electrical energy. IF somebody couldn't make it into usable tool<> inmutable law, ok ?! TK has no problem with that.... ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17068 on: April 18, 2013, 05:07:33 PM »
about LC circuit : you are wrong verpies  ;D , it can be easily proved with a stable load then in resonance the same physical effect like light for example is obtained by consuming a lot less electrical energy.
Even if I disregard the electrical engineering principles, I have never seen any experimental evidence that an incandescent light becomes more intense when supplied by a resonating LC tank, compared to pure DC source with matched internal resistance. 
So the burden of proof is on you and I would like you to be able to demonstrate this anomaly to me.

Gas lamps glow differently with HF HV, of course. Even polarity of the HV matters. But that light output is less than the electrical input in every case.  See below.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #17069 on: April 18, 2013, 05:45:19 PM »
O boy guys it  just strike  ma like a lightning..........................


You holding to your chairs?




Tariel Kapanadze many times even whan I spoke to him  was trying to push me  and for me to even open  manufacturing of air conditioners in USA


It will be  quiet and all you going to see is just frequency
I should have in my archive  recording of that conversation
With frequency given


He was very much against electronic based device to be shown to  the public when  me sponsor who contacted me offered to him biggggggggg money for just exposing it to  public.
[He pushed for hydroelectric version of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZC5CwCTv4I&feature=youtu.be&t=32m22s


The secret was:
 Hydroelectric device had characteristic of Andrea Rossi device and
it was easier for Kapanadze to hide fact of radioactivity




Wesley