Another part of getting a working setup is to slowly raise the voltage.  Don't start out with a high input, you have to slowly raise the voltage.  A delay. 
Could someone please Read this patent from Tesla.  I don't know if it pertains to this subject or not.  I think there are parts of it missing.  It is his patent on an Inductive device or Electrical Transformer.  He uses iron wire and/or thin iron plates to shield the secondary from the magnetic flux.  Can someone explain this device.  It is a very short read for a Tesla patent.  Which is why I think it has been altered.  He talks about having low current in the primary, So as to not affect the performance of the secondary's current output.  He talks about a time lag between the currents that arrive on the secondary coil and the purpose of the shield and its function of keeping magnetic saturation off of the secondary coil.  If someone could put in their two cents on the main function of this Induction device and if its anything other than a clever form of transformer..  Much appreciated.  EL6

The output of the transformer will have a phase difference of 90 degrees to the supply currents and
so the two together can run a two phase motor.

Also the device can be made to be a "constant current" transformer at all loads as described
on page 1 from line 83 to line 89 of the patent.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=-ntZAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

Cheers

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Of all the OU inventors apart from maybe Bedini, TK has the most credibility because of the sheer scale and number of builds.
The important breakthrough for me is noticing that both use the same principles albeit in a different way.
TK's builds are at a much higher potential than Bedini's. The COP 12 comes out of the Bearden-Bedini book "Free energy generation". I have replicated almost all the experiments 100%.
Remember, Bearden was present during the Moray experiments.
I also mentioned that one of lasersabers experiments was OU. ie the one where the capacitor self charged. This has been confirmed in the last week by the latest Bedini book in which he introduces a new phenomenon called the "electret effect".
When a capacitor is repeatedly pulse charged it starts to self charge. The effect takes several hours to condition and thereafter must be maintained or the cap will revert. So we have a new ou phenomenon named the "electret effect".
Howerd Halay noticed this a while back and published his results in Patrick Kelly's free book. (including a circuit to try).http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt6.html
 

Are you hinting that as Bedini energisers can condition capacitors as well as batteries, maybe TK's secret is to 'super condition' a battery bank concealed in one of his 'black / green' boxes, so as to increase its capacity sufficiently to run his lamp array for long enough to convince the punters that he is running on free energy?

NO!
 

Of all the OU inventors apart from maybe Bedini, TK has the most credibility because of the sheer scale and number of builds.
The important breakthrough for me is noticing that both use the same principles albeit in a different way.
TK's builds are at a much higher potential than Bedini's. The COP 12 comes out of the Bearden-Bedini book "Free energy generation". I have replicated almost all the experiments 100%.
Remember, Bearden was present during the Moray experiments.
I also mentioned that one of lasersabers experiments was OU. ie the one where the capacitor self charged. This has been confirmed in the last week by the latest Bedini book in which he introduces a new phenomenon called the "electret effect".
When a capacitor is repeatedly pulse charged it starts to self charge. The effect takes several hours to condition and thereafter must be maintained or the cap will revert. So we have a new ou phenomenon named the "electret effect".
Howerd Halay noticed this a while back and published his results in Patrick Kelly's free book. (including a circuit to try).http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt6.html

Honestly that sounds like "Dielectric absorption". I see it all the time, I short the capacitor and it recharges,
but if the capacitor is shorted for a minute or two the effect disappears. Pulsed charging is not required.
But the effect also disappears if the capacitor is discharged enough times concurrently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_absorption

What is the magnitude of the effect they are talking about ? How about some figures ?
I mean is it a 15000 uF capacitor recharging to 50 volts after being shorted for 5 minutes,
or is it a 470 uF cap recharging to 3 or 4 volts after being momentarily shorted ?
How much energy can be utilized from a "conditioned" capacitor of a given size over a number of discharges and self recharges.

ie. I can say the same thing, I have self charging capacitors. But without stating the magnitude of the effect it means next to nothing.

Anyway the Dielectric absorption effect is only a result of all the energy not being discharged anyway, as explained in the Wiki,
for electrolytic capacitors going by the Wiki it can be as much as 15 % of the original voltage, so for a capacitor charged to 300 volts
the "regained" voltage after shorting can be as much as 45 volts as a result of Dielectric absorption.

And as well for example if I was to condition a capacitor by pulse charging to 300 volts then dumping to a load repeatedly
will the capacitor recharge itself to 300 volts or will it recharge only a few volts ?

It's the vagueness that is the problem, the two ends of the spectrum are far apart.

How would you say a person could know if they have achieved the effect ?

An electret effect doesn't go away I don't think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret

And this is from the Electret Wiki, you must have missed it. Maybe they are using ferroelectric capacitors.

Similarity to capacitors

There is a similarity between an electret and the dielectric layer used in capacitors; the difference is that dielectrics in capacitors have an induced polarization that is only transient, dependent on the potential applied on the dielectric, while dielectrics with electret properties exhibit quasi-permanent charge storage or dipole polarization in addition. Some materials also display ferroelectricity; i.e. they react to the external fields with a hysteresis of the polarization; ferroelectrics can retain the polarization permanently because they are in thermodynamic equilibrium, and are used in ferroelectric capacitors. Although electrets are only in a metastable state, those fashioned from very low leakage materials can retain excess charge or polarization for many years. An electret microphone is a type of condenser microphone that eliminates the need for a power supply by using a permanently charged material.
An electret is a stable dielectric material with a quasi-permanently embedded static electric charge (which, due to the high resistance of the material, will not decay for time periods of up to hundreds of years) and/or a quasi-permanently oriented dipole polarization. The name comes from electron (Greek word for amber) and magnet and was coined by Oliver Heaviside in 1885; drawing analogy to the formation of a magnet by alignment of magnetic domains in a piece of iron. Historically, electrets were made by first melting a suitable dielectric material such as a polymer or wax that contains polar molecules, and then allowing it to re-solidify in a powerful electrostatic field. The polar molecules of the dielectric align themselves to the direction of the electrostatic field, producing a dipole electret with a permanent electrostatic 'bias'. Modern electrets are usually made by embedding excess charges into a highly insulating dielectric, e.g. by means of an electron beam, a corona discharge, injection from an electron, electric breakdown across a gap or a dielectric barrier, etc.

Cheers
 

Energy from which source? The Earth's electric field?

Actually it is easy. The ground and the atmosphere make up an infinitely charged capacitor. But we can only reach the lower ground plate of this capacitor and not the upper atmospheric plate. So we put a 3rd plate between these two plates. What do we get? A smaller but also charged capacitor perhaps?

Imagine two ordinary capacitors connected in series. The two outer plates are charged by a high voltage DC generator. Now what to connect to the middle plate in order to draw energy from the static electric field between the two outer plates? It has to be something that creates an oscillation because capacitors pass AC but block DC signals. Furthermore this oscillation should act like a valve so the energy drawn from this capacitor plate stays in the oscillation circuit and can't flow back into the capacitor.

Is there anything wrong with this simple idea?

 Ok now look for the special transformer that Tesla talks about in this link. He calls it an oscillation transformer.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm

 It also talks about how to harvest from the one wire (single capacitor plate).

 The transformer he mentions starts with this lecture: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1891-05-20.htm
Figure 113
This is a solenoid primary to a bifilar secondary.

 And gets modified to this version: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm. Figure 3 one year later or so.
This version is a bifilar primary to a selectable solenoid or bifilar secondary depending on the connections made to the secondary.

 In order to use the energy from this process you must redesign the inductive loads via the pancake bifilar coils. This gets rid of the choking effect that regular solenoid coils show and essentially reduce that to nothing but the resistance of the wire used in the pancake coils.

Never forget that Tesla had a large power generators behind his setup ! DO NOT COMPARE charging a HV capacitor from a mA source with that.....the problem is in spark gap loss creating a weak transmitter ....  a tip from uneducated man 

verpies,
please explain us how we can have a HV tank circuit to accumulate energy if spark gap is transmitting it all around and we have a mA power source behind our apparathus.... is there any way ? could magnetic quenching be related or rotary breakers ?[/size]