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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12787618 times)

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16215 on: February 27, 2013, 02:40:24 AM »
There was some contention as to weather LaserSabre's circuits were OU or not on another forum. So I asked him straight out,
as I believed confusion would only make things worse in the long run. He said no. None of his circuits showed OU.

The fact that people are still saying his circuits are self runners (means OU) but are not building them themselves speaks volumes,
and in light of LaserSabres own confirmation of no OU, this seems a bit bizarre.

In my humble opinion too many people are doing this for the wrong reasons. A lot of people only seem to be interested if there is OU involved
or implied. Are those people only interested in Alternative energies if OU is involved ?

It's funny I feel there is a change in attitude lately. The more skeptical folks seem to be getting more acceptance from the not so skeptical folks.

It well and good too because for the most part (excluding the Shills) we all want the same thing I think, which is access to free energy albeit at some effort.
Personally I like the transmutation theories/idea. I think to extract usable energy from a naturally occurring or plentiful substance like steel is a great idea,
especially if it is safe and the remaining material is not useless or a problem.

I think the de-centralization of energy harnessing and use is a good idea, I don't think it's a good idea to harness, redistribute and dissipate large amounts of energy in small area's. I think doing so would have to affect the weather or something. The solution needs to be simple so everybody can do it, that way there would be no demand for monopolies to take hold as well.

Now the question is when will every household contain a person capable of building and maintaining an electrical power system ? Will people still rely on others no matter how it is done ? Yes ! Will people take advantage of the ill informed or incapable ? Yes !

Do I have a clear plan ? No ! But I do believe in free energy, it's everywhere.

A free energy machine will still not help the old lady up the road if she can't operate it, not to mention build it or buy it. Not until there is a change in the morals of society
and it's elected leaders.

Cheers

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16216 on: February 27, 2013, 04:09:33 AM »
There was some contention as to weather LaserSabre's circuits were OU or not on another forum. So I asked him straight out,
as I believed confusion would only make things worse in the long run. He said no. None of his circuits showed OU.

I've read a post from LaserSaber on a different forum that said the same thing: his circuits are not OU.
So I was surprised to see a post stating LaserSaber had an OU circuit.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16217 on: February 27, 2013, 07:14:03 AM »
Personally I like the transmutation theories/idea.
Really?
Do you like the LENRs occurring when hydrogen is confined in a metal lattice or the interactions of magnetically confined particles in BASER devices?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16217 on: February 27, 2013, 07:14:03 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16218 on: February 27, 2013, 09:34:25 AM »
for all:

hi

what is theory: TK used static (once adjusted) frequency or he looped back from coil regulated frequency by coil?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16219 on: February 27, 2013, 09:55:04 AM »

It's funny I feel there is a change in attitude lately. The more skeptical folks seem to be getting more acceptance from the not so skeptical folks.


Cheers

What annoys me is that the skeptics are lumped together as being trolls, government plants, MIB's etc. I'm certainly not any of these but I am skeptical from the outset where OU is being claimed from any device by means of video demonstrations, where they are not supported by design and build details. TK's devices fall into this category, as although there is a sketchy patent document, he has made every effort to deny a proper investigation to be carried out on any of his devices. Daly at least supplied some detailed build information which made it possible to attempt replication. As well as misinformation being given about LaserSabre's devices being OU, Bedini's energisers have also been wrongly reported to be OU devices despite Bedini stating clearly that they are not and only claiming that any gain will only be seen in the battery being charged / conditioned and only if an energiser is built properly to his specification.

I'm as eager as the next man to see 'free energy' working for mankind but I'm also a realist and cannot see very much progress being made on the fora towards realisation of this dream until much of the misinformation / disinformation and this silly and childish attitude towards skepticism stops. Its far more likely IMO that any government agents looking in on the FE forums are just laughing at us for all the infighting!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16220 on: February 27, 2013, 01:47:33 PM »
...skeptics are lumped together as being trolls, government plants, MIB's etc. I'm certainly not any of these but I am skeptical from the outset where OU is being claimed from any device by means of video demonstrations, where they are not supported by design and build details.
You should add "rigorous measurements" to that, anytime a self-runner with energy density not exceeding contemporary batteries is demonstrated.

P.S.
Indeed it is easy to get called a troll, government plant, MIB, etc... just for trying to bring logic to the table here.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16221 on: February 27, 2013, 09:18:27 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdXAjT2QPiQ&list=UUIKzUKkh7XtnSYPW0AJb-9w
Laseraber shows a self runner. 3 things interest me here.
1 Resonance between l1 and l2 is perfectly maintained
2 Self charging capacitors.
3 Similar to Kapanadze's patents.
I have other research discoveries which I will attempt to integrate into this circuit.
I don't care what others think. I just do.
Of all the circuits we've come across I think this is the one to big up and exploit if we can.
Thanks to the positive contributors on this forum, your input is much appreciated.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16221 on: February 27, 2013, 09:18:27 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16222 on: February 27, 2013, 11:01:34 PM »
  On the LS video you posted a link to he is saying that he attributes the capacitor bounce back effect to the self charging of the circuit. He also says that people will think that it is overunity, but he thinks that its not.
  In working with the same basic circuit the battery or batteries are going from a fully charged state but quickly discharging down to 1/10 of the original voltage, then charging itself back to the starting voltage, and discharging back down again. The circuit ran by itself for two weeks straight until the battery failed. The voltage is constantly changing, so there can't be a steady state of resonance between the cores as both current as well as voltage levels are constantly fluctuating.
That is my opinion, or at least my findings.  Others who has done the tests on this device have mentioned similar observations, such as Lynxsteam.
  As long as very small load is drawn, the led lights will be very dim, and if more power is drawn the cap or battery will quickly discharge, and not be able to keep up with the slight bounce back self charging effect. So, its a balancing act to keep the light brightness at any useable level.
  So, the device is working as a Captret, but is also very sensitive to all types of capacitive links, such as those coming from the ac wiring stray capacitance, ones body capacitance, as well as any others in the surrounding area.
  If the circuit is run from a battery the same effect can be noticed. So, I don't attribute the capacitor bounce back as the only source of input, as a dead battery will also charge back up as well.
  Gadget had his cross-over circuit runaway from him and burn up, so there can be something else going on, also.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16223 on: February 27, 2013, 11:51:29 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdXAjT2QPiQ&list=UUIKzUKkh7XtnSYPW0AJb-9w
Laseraber shows a self runner. 3 things interest me here.
1 Resonance between l1 and l2 is perfectly maintained
2 Self charging capacitors.
3 Similar to Kapanadze's patents.
I have other research discoveries which I will attempt to integrate into this circuit.
I don't care what others think. I just do.
Of all the circuits we've come across I think this is the one to big up and exploit if we can.
Thanks to the positive contributors on this forum, your input is much appreciated.

LaserSaber clearly does not show a self-runner!  ::) He has charged a very large capacitor from a power supply and it is gradually draining down as it powers the circuit. Its as simple as that and nothing self-running about it. Its no different to there being a small battery connected to the circuit, which will also run down over time. You say its similar to Kapanadze's device, so if this the case, how does TK get his huge cap bank charged and where is it located in his garden and aqua videos?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16223 on: February 27, 2013, 11:51:29 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16224 on: February 28, 2013, 01:22:53 AM »
LASERSABER shows that his setup takes in energy from around it, including the wall wires of his house.  Now could he not just tune his L! or L2 ect..  to, lets say 7.50Hz, by cutting his wire down to the 3.80 feet, which is the 1/4 wave length of 7.50Hz of the Natural Earth Resonance???

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16225 on: February 28, 2013, 01:38:35 AM »
 There is no point to that, as when the house circuit breakers are turned off, so will the circuit.
  Here is a video where I'm showing something similar, lighting an led on an AV plug, on just the ac wiring capacitive link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xur_VChGdzE

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16226 on: February 28, 2013, 01:42:54 AM »
3.80 feet, which is the 1/4 wave length of 7.50Hz of the Natural Earth Resonance?
How did you come up with 3.80ft as ¼ wavelength of the 7.5Hz frequency ?

BTW: The spherical waveguide between Earth and its ionosphere resonates at 7.83Hz fundamental frequency and the average amplitude of the electric field variations at this frequency is 300μV/m and ~1pT for the magnetic field.
In comparison,  Earth's static fair-weather electric field has strength of 150V/m and the Earth's static magnetic field has the density of 30μT.

The Q of the Schumann resonator at its fundamental frequency is


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« Reply #16227 on: February 28, 2013, 02:49:32 AM »
I used an onine info for finding the length of wire for a certain frequency.  Do you know what the real one is.  This site said take the frequency in Mhz and divide it into 234. Another site told me its 247..  So whats the real one?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16228 on: February 28, 2013, 03:13:32 AM »
Really?
Do you like the LENRs occurring when hydrogen is confined in a metal lattice or the interactions of magnetically confined particles in BASER devices?

I really don't know the details. I just like the idea. Just lately I'm not well (health problems) so it has been impossible for me to study the way I would like to.
I can't experiment at present either really. That's life I guess.

Anyway I see that the split copper tube core and such experiments can have some interesting results.

I'm the type of person who always wants to think of where the energy is going to come from, and I just can't get my head around extra energy coming from the air around a device as a result of oscillating fields or gradient fields that we create. If a field was applied to solid matter I think it could be a different story.

I'm not electrically trained except for basic theory and workplace safety about 25 years ago for my trade, I'm a boilermaker. Though I've always been a tinkerer and experimenter
I do realize that when building things or getting machines to work we must deal with "what is the case" not what "we want to be case", to fix something properly we need to recognize what the problem "actually is" not just what the problem is causing. Just like to build a device to capture free energy we need to know or have an idea of "where the energy actually is going to come from".

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16229 on: February 28, 2013, 03:20:09 AM »
I used an onine info for finding the length of wire for a certain frequency.  Do you know what the real one is.  This site said take the frequency in Mhz and divide it into 234. Another site told me its 247..  So whats the real one?


Wavelength - frequency calculator
http://www.csgnetwork.com/freqwavelengthcalc.html

The 1/4 wavelength for 7.8 Hz is about 9554 kilometers. It's long.

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