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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12785800 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16200 on: February 26, 2013, 07:54:47 AM »
  In this Daly type device I don't see a spark gap, but I don't understand what they are saying, either.
There is no other input source once it is started with a 12v battery.
   I hope that it is not just another bum steer.
 Looks simple enough to try to replicate.
  What do you think???
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9VDab7cIW1I&feature=endscreen


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16201 on: February 26, 2013, 09:11:33 AM »
There is no other input source once it is started with a 12v battery.

Hi

When guy want show end of wire connected to ground in video is too dark :-\, its not good for proof, its make more skeptics, but if work u can try it, if u know how do it :D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16202 on: February 26, 2013, 10:14:32 AM »
  In this Daly type device I don't see a spark gap, but I don't understand what they are saying, either.
There is no other input source once it is started with a 12v battery.
   I hope that it is not just another bum steer.
 Looks simple enough to try to replicate.
  What do you think???
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9VDab7cIW1I&feature=endscreen

Myself and Itsu attempted to replicate the Daly device with some expert help from Verpies with no real success.

I wonder if a direction change in thinking is needed now that so many pages have accumulated on this thread and some still seem to be no closer to understanding how TK did it. There is evidence from the 'green box' video that heavy duty wires were used and although a contentious point, some of us are of the opinion that these were being used for connection to an external power supply. TK may have needed an external source of energy such as from a grid connected transformer or battery bank, which he could process and 'amplify' with his 'special' device. He may have genuinely believed that he was producing more energy out than was input, as many other experimenters have believed with their own devices. He would of course have needed to conceal the cable runs to the source of energy, as his audiences would not necessarily have seen it the same way had he revealed all! His device could then have been some kind of reasonably simple constructed 'chopper' to transform a low voltage, high current (say 24A) source supply to HV for powering the bank of lamps. I have been surprised myself at how brightly incandescent lamps can be lit at reasonably low power levels from pulsed HV. The items of 'eye candy' thrown in would have been essential to ensure that his audiences were convinced that he had a 'special' device. We may never know for sure whether his device truly ran OU but can we really rule out an external source of energy from a transformer or battery bank? Before someone replies with "what about his big setup demos in Turkey", can we equally be quite sure that he did not request some level of grid derived supply for the scaled-up demos?

Whether or not TK used a power supply or achieved OU, it may be more fruitful to experiment using a power supply given the possibility that a considerable level of input energy may be essential to take a system into an OU state.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 12:29:28 PM by Hoppy »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16203 on: February 26, 2013, 02:58:17 PM »
If we look at the joule ringer circuit, it has similarities with TK's patents,. Also lasersaber has demonstrated ou effects with self charging capacitors. I think we should concentrate on that aspect. I mean he has already lit up an led bulb. Let's try and loop the effect.

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« Reply #16204 on: February 26, 2013, 03:22:41 PM »
If we look at the joule ringer circuit, it has similarities with TK's patents,. Also lasersaber has demonstrated ou effects with self charging capacitors. I think we should concentrate on that aspect. I mean he has already lit up an led bulb. Let's try and loop the effect.

And laserbaber's devices are not self-runners as they all need a power supply. TK may have tried to loop-back but not yet achieved this.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16205 on: February 26, 2013, 06:11:12 PM »
  Thanks to all for your comments concerning the Dally type of circuits.
  But, to think that all TK devices as well as Dally types or similar devices are all fakes, without being able to show or prove HOW, is not going to help us much.
Even if only one of those circuits is really working as shown, that by itself is enough to continue to research the cause of this anomaly. Once someone replicates any of those devices, we'll have something more to go on.
  I agree that the Lasersaber circuits are not self runners, as they are simple inverters, only, even in his newest Cross-Over circuit. The house wiring ac. capacitive link may be what is responsible for the led bulb lighting. Once the power supply is removed and the house breakers are turned off, the circuit dies out.
The newest Exciter circuit shown by Slayer has been able to drop the input source draw substantially, to very efficient levels, of about 1/3 the previous draw, simply with the use of a second 2n2222 transistor.
At least both are headed in the right direction, even if they do require an input source, to obtain useable light. 

  There is another Dally circuit that is started with a hand crank generator to charge a capacitor bank. Have you all seen that one. I know that this may be nothing new, but it is still very interesting, if nothing else. 
  Why are NONE of these guys lighting their house with these circuit???
 That,  is my question...  As I certainly would be doing it.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16206 on: February 26, 2013, 06:46:50 PM »
 
But, to think that all TK devices as well as Dally types or similar devices are all fakes, without being able to show or prove HOW, is not going to help us much.
Even if only one of those circuits is really working as shown, that by itself is enough to continue to research the cause of this anomaly. Once someone replicates any of those devices, we'll have something more to go on.

There is another Dally circuit that is started with a hand crank generator to charge a capacitor bank. Have you all seen that one. I know that this may be nothing new, but it is still very interesting, if nothing else. 
Why are NONE of these guys lighting their house with these circuit???
That,  is my question...  As I certainly would be doing it.

If TK is using an external power supply and transforming this to HV to run his lamps, then he may have found a very efficient way of doing this and could even have achieved OU. I do not rule this out completely, but IMO its a lot more likely that he has not achieved an OU running system. In order to make progress to discover HOW he does it, all possibilities need to be explored and this includes the use of an external power supply. Ruling this out just because the assumption is that he must extract energy directly from the ground or aether to achieve OU is just limiting viable options.

I've seen the 'hand crank' video and there is just not enough detail about the setup to make an informed opinion.

As for why you say that none of the demonstrators are lighting their houses with their setups assumes that you have it on good authority that they are not. A non-OU but very efficient setup is still very useable and in the case of lasersaber, I understand that he uses a JT system in his workshop. I have also heard that Bedini has LED lighting in his home and runs this from one of his devices.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16207 on: February 26, 2013, 07:12:56 PM »
  Lasersaber is lighting his workshop using a solar system as the input source to charge batteries, which are then powering his circuits.
Nor have I seen a single video of someone actually lighting their house, including TK, John Bedini, or anyone else,  from a free energy system.
As these circuits can be used for this purpose, I'm surprised that not one person is doing it, at least that can be shown, as some kind of proof. Not just hearing that JB is doing it.
I'm not knocking it, just would like to see if anyone is doing it.
  I agree that an efficient led lighting system can be incorporated to substitute or compliment the house grid's input. But, not one video is showing this, especially from a truly free energy system, using no external man made input source.
 If I am wrong about this, please let me know.
  I am open to the possibility of ANY Source being used for this purpose, at least to kick start the operation of a circuit.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16208 on: February 26, 2013, 07:26:09 PM »
I have a question. if is input in kapagen cca 150w and output is for eaxample 1500w. u can join output on input, cant u? it will be selfruning kapagen with 1500-150=1350w output or not?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16209 on: February 26, 2013, 08:05:43 PM »
 
Nor have I seen a single video of someone actually lighting their house, including TK, John Bedini, or anyone else,  from a free energy system.
As these circuits can be used for this purpose, I'm surprised that not one person is doing it, at least that can be shown, as some kind of proof. Not just hearing that JB is doing it.
I'm not knocking it, just would like to see if anyone is doing it.
 

The problem is that a video in itself is not be able to prove that any domestic system is working 'free energy' in the OU sense. It may be the case that none of the circuits so far presented are capable of running OU!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16210 on: February 26, 2013, 09:05:13 PM »
One of lasersaber's circuits is a self runner and Hoppy is terified that we latch on to it and work on it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16211 on: February 26, 2013, 09:58:25 PM »
One of lasersaber's circuits is a self runner and Hoppy is terified that we latch on to it and work on it.

Which circuit is the self-runner?  Please post schematic and name of circuit.
I thought I saw (built many) of all of Lasersabers circuits.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16212 on: February 26, 2013, 10:31:19 PM »
Eureka or flash in the pan?

Hi All,

Posted below are two pictures, first is of Sinus input from Signal Generator @ 1v P/P (for some reason I can't put a scope on the O/P of the Audio Amp as it shorts) Second trace over 120 V P/P.
Voltage peaks at 28 Khz. Output is off 30 SWG at 250 turns under the black tape. This coil was the start of an aborted project but it took so long to wind I kept it! The O/P voltage is not capable of  load but with thicker wire who know's?

Second picture is of the Ferrite core, the sort of horizontal winding is the last layer from the secondary of an old microwave oven transformer. I estimate the gague also in the 30 swg bracket.
Input current appears to be 200mA. But what I found encouraging  was the massive voltage gain.

Comments Welcome.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16213 on: February 27, 2013, 12:30:44 AM »
Hi,

If anyone plans to work in lasersaber joule ringer crossover circuit.I have pasted the link to Laser's forum on joule ringers crossover circuit .I was active in that forum and worked on replication.
http://laserhacker.com/forum/index.php?topic=70.0

Yes the device work in home trickle charging battery or caps but none near his work related to lighting a bulb.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16214 on: February 27, 2013, 01:37:49 AM »
 @ delabare:
   There is also a later update to the cross-over circuit, showing that the bounce back effect of the transistor is what can cause the capacitor to self recharge. But, the led bulb's light output is very low and not really useable for lighting purposes. If more draw is being drawn taken from the circuit (brighter led light), the battery or capacitor will discharge, but will recharge back to starting voltage once the additional load is removed.  This only proofs that the capacitor has a slight recharging effect. But, that is not anything like TK's strong current output devices.


 

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