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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406743 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16050 on: February 19, 2013, 02:23:50 AM »

........... What is really bizarre is Verpies pretending to be another user.

Huh?........I understand that this thread spans over 1,000 pages and its impossible to read it all. However a little research and you would of seen that I have been on this thread well before Verpies and WELL before you registered for this site.

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BTW - @All At one time there was a member that went by the name LtBolo. He had some good ideas and no longer posts on this thread. However at one time he spoke of 'electron' acceleration via a Tesla coil. Its worth your time researching what he was saying, add to that the effects of a magnetic field on ions (positive and negative).

Here is a very helpful picture. Step 1 understanding the states of matter.

Question: What is the difference between 212 Deg.F water and 212 Deg.F steam?

Question: Can a meter measure Latent heat? or can we only measure Sensible heat.

Dwell on it.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16051 on: February 19, 2013, 02:26:30 AM »

It's the primary winding that has got me foxed, Quoting "The primary P P is wound in two parts, and oppositely, upon a wooden spool W," Is this calling for a bifilar style? Quoting "Each half of the primary has four layers, 24 turns in each, this giving a total of 96 turns." What size wire? Wound in two parts and oppositely??? Opposite to what? Secondary? Give me some clues and I will endeavour to build this.
It's a caduceus coil, not so stange.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16052 on: February 19, 2013, 03:14:30 AM »
At one time there was a member that went by the name LtBolo. He had some good ideas and no longer posts on this thread.
I miss LtBolo's input here.

However at one time he spoke of 'electron' acceleration via a Tesla coil. Its worth your time researching what he was saying, add to that the effects of a magnetic field on ions (positive and negative).
If the electrons get accelerated to energies above 14eV in air then they will cause secondary electron emissions upon collisions.
Magnetic field will confine electrons and ions to opposite spiral/circular orbits, delaying or preventing their recombination

Question: What is the difference between 212 Deg.F water and 212 Deg.F steam?
Their energy density will differ.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16053 on: February 19, 2013, 03:40:09 AM »
No unusual behavior of my Joule Thief circuits so far to report, except there was no smoke cloud yet while experimenting (that's indeed very unusual). :(

But found something interesting about electric parametric resonance in German: Physik des Schaukelns und parametrische Verstärkung

Essentially it says the capacitance should be lowered (go to higher frequency) when the voltage reaches its peak, not raised (to lower frequency). I always thought it is the other way round. Very odd. ???

And something even more interesting about capacitors, hence a short lesson in physics:

A capacitor consists of a set of two parallel plates of area A separated by a distance d. This capacitor is connected to a battery and charged until its plates carry charges +Q and -Q. The battery is then disconnected. If the separation between the plates is doubled,

(a) the energy stored in the capacitor is halved.

(b) the energy stored in the capacitor is quadrupled.

(c) the energy stored in the capacitor is reduced by a factor of 4.

(d) the energy stored in the capacitor is kept constant.

(e) the energy stored in the capacitor is doubled.

The correct answer is (e). Look it up.

Now the one million dollar question: What would happen if there were a way to double the separation between the plates of a charged capacitor without the need of any energy input?

Ideas are welcome ... :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16054 on: February 19, 2013, 04:39:49 AM »
No unusual behavior of my Joule Thief circuits so far to report, except there was no smoke cloud yet while experimenting (that's indeed very unusual). :(

But found something interesting about electric parametric resonance in German: Physik des Schaukelns und parametrische Verstärkung

Essentially it says the capacitance should be lowered (go to higher frequency) when the voltage reaches its peak, not raised (to lower frequency). I always thought it is the other way round. Very odd. ???

And something even more interesting about capacitors, hence a short lesson in physics:

A capacitor consists of a set of two parallel plates of area A separated by a distance d. This capacitor is connected to a battery and charged until its plates carry charges +Q and -Q. The battery is then disconnected. If the separation between the plates is doubled,

(a) the energy stored in the capacitor is halved.

(b) the energy stored in the capacitor is quadrupled.

(c) the energy stored in the capacitor is reduced by a factor of 4.

(d) the energy stored in the capacitor is kept constant.

(e) the energy stored in the capacitor is doubled.

The correct answer is (e). Look it up.

Now the one million dollar question: What would happen if there were a way to double the separation between the plates of a charged capacitor without the need of any energy input?

Ideas are welcome ... :)


 I do believe that's voltage increase or potential of the two plates and not energy. Like in transformers the charge changes into voltage potential like in a step up transformer when the distance increases between the plates. What's this got to do with TK's device?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16055 on: February 19, 2013, 01:30:02 PM »
What's this got to do with TK's device?

Kapanadze has a passion about capacitors. Hence I have to do more homework for fun.

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« Reply #16056 on: February 19, 2013, 03:13:06 PM »
 I think this is the best representation of the capacitor question you posed.


http://www.csun.edu/~gsl05670/labs/cap_plate_sep_volt.htm

It works with voltage and charge. Not energy persay. Energy in my opinion has an active definition and not a standing definition..
 Active meaning to do something and standing meaning potential to do something or hasn't done anything yet.
 Anyways see how they talk about charge and voltage. Where they store charge in the electric field?
 My take on this is that the charge is based  in the structure of the object and represented on the surface of an object. The electric field allows those charges to be represented on the other surface. I don't think the field stores anything. The field organizes and allows charges to pose or influence the other side of the space via the electric field between the plates.

 The easiest representation of a capacitor is a diaphragm. Nothing actually moves from plate to plate this is accomplished by the ability of the electric field to originate from one charge structure and motivate the other plate via the electric field. It is a static device. No current moves through the device and if it does odds on are if it does conduct it is a dielectric break down and ruins the capacitor. Some capacitors have a self healing ability, such as in the case of the electrolytic capacitor. These breakdowns can be seen if you take the cap apart. There will be little scars on the surface of the plates where the oxide was burnt away. The healing type of caps like the electrolytic caps use the liquid inside to repair the breach and re-oxidize the breach.

 As you can see there are a Great many ideas that are not agreeing with one another in our scientific theories. This waffling back and forth of accepted theories only goes to confuse us and most are designed to do just that.This is the crux to our problem. And hence is the problem we all face. No wonder many are confused about this stuff.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16057 on: February 19, 2013, 04:20:01 PM »
Another dry theory (don't know how to get it wet):

Two capacitors each 1µF are connected in parallel and charged with 10 volts. When connected in series the voltage doubles to 20 volts but the capacitance is quartered to 0.5µF, therefore the stored energy stays the same. Now disconnect the capacitors so the capacitance of each would be 1µF at 10 volts. Then take the 10 volts of the second capacitor and add it to the 10 volts of the first capacitor so the first one is now 1µF at 20 volts. Then this capacitor would contain twice the initial energy.

2µF at 10V = 100µ Joules (parallel), 0.5µF at 20V = 100µ Joules (series), but 1µF at 20V = 200µ Joules

Now how to transfer a voltage from one capacitor to a second capacitor in a way that the voltage sum up (without losses)?

Any great ideas?

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« Reply #16058 on: February 19, 2013, 05:40:13 PM »
To hell with clues, spend some time doing research and just better yourself. It took me all of 5 minutes to find a build manual on Google books. Whats your excuse? Now, go get yourself a cup of hot coco and sharpen your tools. I present to you a gift and I expect to see a finished product within the next month or so. You have only yourself to blame if you don't build this because this is a Step-by-Step guide.

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I thank you for your rather curt responce to my question, but will leave the Cocoa to those that need it!!  :) I studied the text and have drawn a conclusion that there are many discrepancies with the transformer, in relation to the one described by Tesla. The most important one being, made with an Iron rod core. Surely that is going to have a detrimental effect on the frequency?

So with this in mind I am going to persue Tesla's described construction.

Any way, wire for the secondary winding on order. Drawings for the Nylon parts at the plastics company. lathe on standby. I am going to replace the wooden former with a solid Nylon rod. Machine each end to create bobbin style primary winding carriers then sleeve them with 86mm O/D tubes. I have now got the gist of the Primary winding, 4 layers of 24 turns each end. It also states that the secondary windings are wound opposite to each other. Same goes for the primary. But my only query.... Which would be the best way of coupling Pri to sec? Pri CW sec CCW? Or both same direction? Perhaps I have answered my own question? As the two halves interact with each other then Pri/Sec should probably run together?

Addendum. As I am making a reasonably high tech build, ie modern materials, what about a high tech driver? Any ideas?
« Last Edit: February 19, 2013, 08:50:28 PM by Grumage »

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« Reply #16059 on: February 19, 2013, 08:23:03 PM »
hey guys, iam new in this forum and i have one question for now. i have 20 ferite toroids :Al=3450nH f49xf31.8xf19mm it wil be ok?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16060 on: February 19, 2013, 09:23:45 PM »
Another dry theory (don't know how to get it wet):
Two capacitors each 1µF are connected in parallel and charged with 10 volts. When connected in series the voltage doubles to 20 volts but the capacitance is quartered to 0.5µF, therefore the stored energy stays the same. Now disconnect the capacitors so the capacitance of each would be 1µF at 10 volts. Then take the 10 volts of the second capacitor and add it to the 10 volts of the first capacitor so the first one is now 1µF at 20 volts. Then this capacitor would contain twice the initial energy.
2µF at 10V = 100µ Joules (parallel), 0.5µF at 20V = 100µ Joules (series), but 1µF at 20V = 200µ Joules
Now how to transfer a voltage from one capacitor to a second capacitor in a way that the voltage sum up (without losses)?
Any great ideas?

This is principles Tesla Switch (charge two paralely joined capacitors/batteries with serialy joined capacitors/batteries and switch to back more hundred times in one second) some guys replicated this stuff

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16061 on: February 19, 2013, 09:44:04 PM »
I thank you for your rather curt responce to my question, but will leave the Cocoa to those that need it!!  :) I studied the text and have drawn a conclusion that there are many discrepancies with the transformer, in relation to the one described by Tesla. The most important one being, made with an Iron rod core. Surely that is going to have a detrimental effect on the frequency?

So with this in mind I am going to persue Tesla's described construction.

Any way, wire for the secondary winding on order. Drawings for the Nylon parts at the plastics company. lathe on standby. I am going to replace the wooden former with a solid Nylon rod. Machine each end to create bobbin style primary winding carriers then sleeve them with 86mm O/D tubes. I have now got the gist of the Primary winding, 4 layers of 24 turns each end. It also states that the secondary windings are wound opposite to each other. Same goes for the primary. But my only query.... Which would be the best way of coupling Pri to sec? Pri CW sec CCW? Or both same direction? Perhaps I have answered my own question? As the two halves interact with each other then Pri/Sec should probably run together?

Addendum. As I am making a reasonably high tech build, ie modern materials, what about a high tech driver? Any ideas?


 Well like I said the driver can be like the slayer exciter. I don't know if he used transistors or not but I think I remember him using transistors. For low level voltage this should be fine. I'm gonna try field effect transistors since they are the closest to tube type operations.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16062 on: February 19, 2013, 10:03:44 PM »

 Well like I said the driver can be like the slayer exciter. I don't know if he used transistors or not but I think I remember him using transistors. For low level voltage this should be fine. I'm gonna try field effect transistors since they are the closest to tube type operations.
Yes the Slayer was Transistor driven, I built and tested a derivative that used 2 X 2N2222 transistors back to back. This was a very low current device and very high frequency I wonder if as you suggested run at 20khz but with a bit of oomf behind it? Sorry for the highly technical term  :) I have also got some 100V 100A mosfet's coming with the wire order. I was thinking on the lines of an H bridge setup?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16063 on: February 19, 2013, 10:25:04 PM »
hey guys, iam new in this forum and i have one question for now. i have 20 ferite toroids :Al=3450nH f49xf31.8xf19mm it wil be ok?
If this gives free energy then it will be OK.

This is principles Tesla Switch (charge two paralely joined capacitors/batteries with serialy joined capacitors/batteries and switch to back more hundred times in one second) some guys replicated this stuff
And? Does it work?

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