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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13201441 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15885 on: February 07, 2013, 12:45:35 AM »
Guys,
Sorry, I think you have all taken my post about the 3 phase out of context.
I was simply pointing out that in looking for a way to "cheat" the power meter, I came across that statement about the 2 phase welder.
Sorry if anyone got the wrong idea.
Garry
No shit! It was exactly the right idea! :)

»Saturation is employed to limit current in saturable-core transformers, used in arc welding, and ferroresonant transformers which serve as voltage regulators.«

Saturation (magnetic)

So where can I see the saturated magnetic core in the Kapanadze videos? How does Kapanadze saturate his transformer core?

The theory: When the transformer core of an arc welder goes into saturation then could it be that a parametric resonance occurs between a step-down transformer connected to the power grid and the arc welder transformer? And that's causing the meter between to run backwards when welding?

Maybe it's time to buy an arc welder in order to get finally free energy. :D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15886 on: February 07, 2013, 09:17:55 AM »

So where can I see the saturated magnetic core in the Kapanadze videos? How does Kapanadze saturate his transformer core?

The theory: When the transformer core of an arc welder goes into saturation then could it be that a parametric resonance occurs between a step-down transformer connected to the power grid and the arc welder transformer? And that's causing the meter between to run backwards when welding?

Maybe it's time to buy an arc welder in order to get finally free energy. :D

Maybe look away from the magicians table. Why did he use heavy duty wires? Heavy duty wires are normally used to carry heavy currents. Its so simple that it will make you laugh  :)

You are getting very warm IMO. Take the 25A clamp meter reading from the video at a typical open circuit secondary voltage of 45V for a single phase welding transformer and we have a good 1KW to light those big lamps. However, there are losses both from cable resistance and pulsed current step-up in the 'green box' unit, so the actual on-load voltage at the input to the green box will be  less than open circuit voltage of the welding transformer. The available power to the lamps will therefore be under 1KW but enough to light the lamps to a reasonable level once pulsed up to a higher voltage.
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15887 on: February 07, 2013, 01:09:50 PM »
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So where can I see the saturated magnetic core in the Kapanadze videos? How does Kapanadze saturate his transformer core?

The theory: When the transformer core of an arc welder goes into saturation then could it be that a parametric resonance occurs between a step-down transformer connected to the power grid and the arc welder transformer? And that's causing the meter between to run backwards when welding?

Maybe it's time to buy an arc welder in order to get finally free energy. 



More on parametrics: One admitted theory to get FE is parametric variation of C or L in respect to Time as per E.Dollard said.
For example you need to switch periodically from a low L (charge) to a high L (discharge).
The energy is equal to E= 1/2*L*I^2 in coil, so the energy gain is E= 1/2*DeltaL*I^2 where DeltaL = Lhigh - Llow.


Mathematical example:
Charge a coil at 1 Henry at 1 amp = 0.5 Joule.
Switch to 10 Henry always at 1 amp and discharge = 5 Joules.
DeltaL is 10-1 = 9
So Egain is 1/2*9*1^2 = 4.5 Joules.


If the energy needed to change parameter is lower than the energy gain then you have OU !
The real question is how to change parameter with virtually no energy input (that's a question that I ask myself for nearly two years now.)
Saturating a trafo won't give a DeltaL =/= 0 because during charge and discharge the process is symmetric.
Hypothesis:
1) Shorting a coil during the charging process (Llow) (maybe waiting 5*L/R that the current stabilize and mutual induction "disappear" due no current variation anymore) then opening the short just before discharging (Lhigh) is a possibility.
I have watched Ufopolitics radiant circuits, unless a very unusual phenomena enter, I don't see how a coil who is charged and discharged without parametric variation (DeltaL = 0) can be OU, his radiant circuit are basically a buck-boost converter that you can find easily in the market.
2) A rotor with alternating magnetic and non magnetic part in a magnetic circuit (stator) will be also a good start as per Ide Osamu capacitance motor reveal.
3) Using mag-amp at condition the control winding doesn't dissipate too much power and no coupling between power and control winding.


So if all those device like TK, Don Smith use parametric you should be able to see coil shorting at the charging cycle and opening during discharge, by using spark, electronic control and so on.


SRM.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #15889 on: February 07, 2013, 06:40:23 PM »
So if all those device like TK, Don Smith use parametric you should be able to see coil shorting at the charging cycle and opening during discharge, by using spark, electronic control and so on.
I can see two heat sinks with unknown semiconductors mounted on it (Kapanadze) and four huge thyristors on heat sinks (Stepanov). But I can't see anything usable for coil shorting regarding the yoke device (it works even without the spark). Hence could the yoke device somehow virtually shorting the coil?

What if a transformer has two coils (tapped coil) connected in parallel during the charging cycle (shorted) and connected in series during discharge? What would be the difference in respect of the resonance frequency between parallel and series connection?


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« Reply #15890 on: February 07, 2013, 08:30:00 PM »
This is the theory so far: One part of the device consists of an output coil (part of a transformer) parallel connected to a capacitor (or a bank of capacitors) in resonance, thereby it would be very convenient to have the resonance set to 50Hz (60Hz) in order to connect ordinary AC loads. The input circuit has to run on twice this output frequency in order to excite parametric resonance.

Now the questions are: How to get parametric resonance in the first place and how to keep it when a reactive load is connected?

Supplementary question: Does »keep resonance« mean the output frequency changes dependent on the reactive load but the output circuit is still in resonance with the input circuit because the input frequency is changed too, or does »keep resonance« mean both frequencies are kept steady independent of the reactive load?

On the other hand: If the output resonance frequency is in the range up to a few KHz then there would be always the possibility to rectify it (Steven Marks) and then to send it to a commercially available 220V inverter.

So I think that's all very nice in theory ... ::)

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« Reply #15891 on: February 07, 2013, 10:48:08 PM »
Now the questions are: How to get parametric resonance in the first place and how to keep it when a reactive load is connected?
Reactive load does not destroy the resonance at the secondary of a parametric transformer - it only detunes it.

So there are two methods to deal with this problem:
1) Dynamic frequency adjustment, e.g. by VCO in PLL or FLL
2) PFC regulator that presents constant reactance to the output of the the parametric transformer.

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« Reply #15892 on: February 07, 2013, 11:16:59 PM »


More on parametrics: One admitted theory to get FE is parametric variation of C or L in respect to Time as per E.Dollard said.
For example you need to switch periodically from a low L (charge) to a high L (discharge).
The energy is equal to E= 1/2*L*I^2 in coil, so the energy gain is E= 1/2*DeltaL*I^2 where DeltaL = Lhigh - Llow.


Mathematical example:
Charge a coil at 1 Henry at 1 amp = 0.5 Joule.
Switch to 10 Henry always at 1 amp and discharge = 5 Joules.
DeltaL is 10-1 = 9
So Egain is 1/2*9*1^2 = 4.5 Joules.


If the energy needed to change parameter is lower than the energy gain then you have OU !
The real question is how to change parameter with virtually no energy input (that's a question that I ask myself for nearly two years now.)
Saturating a trafo won't give a DeltaL =/= 0 because during charge and discharge the process is symmetric.
Hypothesis:
1) Shorting a coil during the charging process (Llow) (maybe waiting 5*L/R that the current stabilize and mutual induction "disappear" due no current variation anymore) then opening the short just before discharging (Lhigh) is a possibility.
I have watched Ufopolitics radiant circuits, unless a very unusual phenomena enter, I don't see how a coil who is charged and discharged without parametric variation (DeltaL = 0) can be OU, his radiant circuit are basically a buck-boost converter that you can find easily in the market.
2) A rotor with alternating magnetic and non magnetic part in a magnetic circuit (stator) will be also a good start as per Ide Osamu capacitance motor reveal.
3) Using mag-amp at condition the control winding doesn't dissipate too much power and no coupling between power and control winding.


So if all those device like TK, Don Smith use parametric you should be able to see coil shorting at the charging cycle and opening during discharge, by using spark, electronic control and so on.


SRM.
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 Yeah I highly doubt that spark gap is the only option but the spark gaps ability toword stability and fidelity is much higher. Tubes in my opinion are the key. Once a tube gets an increase of charge it really starts to put out extra energy through avalanching of the charges.
 Tesla showed inb his latter years that the power of a charges partcle is quite powerful. Much like an a bomb in strength yet highly compact. It seems certain types of energy are good for charging atoms without destroying the atom itself. Avalanch is also based on accelerating charges towords one terminal. If that terminal was made with a very durable metal to voltages like say Aluminum? Or some variation of that metal compound. Tesla was very elated with aluminum. It was a great static shield in his very high frequency experiments. Maybe some combination of aluminum and tungston or another metal like that could be tried. Or at least use it in static shielding in the tube. You can make a very great screen out of it I bet as well. I'm sure common tubes in the old TV days would suffice. MAybe not the best for the design but I bet good enough to get what we need to test this on a bigger scale.
 
 TK shows a great many Tesla designs and seems to have progressed rather well in the concepts. If you understand Teslian technology then you understand TK's methods. All the devices are based off of key aspects of the Tesla devised power system. You guys are only seeing part of the system. The power generator is inside of the boxes. Thats the source for all of these systems. It is the main drive to all of the effects we have seen through youtube. It's an oscillator in the extreme. Most of the devices only harness the output. They are not OU devices. The source however is and once set in motion and allowed to build can power anything upto the mass limits of the source hardware. ie. 5kw device so aptly named thread of ours.
 
 When you build the source with more mass the power pumping ability of the oscillator is also increased. Unfortunately the source must be matched with the load. I highly doubt he has auto matching for the load. The load still presents a resistance to the oscillator. Although it is not sifficient to block the action of the oscillator. variable Loose coupling (air core). The more pressure you use the tighter the coupling becomes yet still has a limited slip to it. Almost like a transmission. The ratios between the two must be maintained via timing of the transistors firing over the gap. The gap is only for fine tuning the transistors sparking via capacitance discharge. You could think of it as clipping the signal and giving it very steep edges. This action cleans up the arcs and creates more radiative energy to the very large coil around the semi bifilar coil inside of it. The outside disapates rather cuickly but the interior of this radiative event becomes very very concentrated.
 
 Tesla gave us a very good look at this concentration of the field by his high frequency experiments with his new Coil/ Super Oscillator. The oil bath made this setup run in the extreme ranges of the very hgigh voltage and super current less discharges. They tended to illuminate and let one examine the field being intensified. Tesla reported brightness differences between a circle of wire and globe electrodes. They got more intense as they concentrated. The light comes from excess charges flowing twords the source potential. I think we have been seeing light wrong all along. It has frequency merely from the speed of it's charges twords the source. The faster it goes the stronger it's wakes will be. Just like water it a partcle pushes through it, it provides a wake field after it. Sorta like motion blurr works. In space there is little real matter and is filled with this superconductor of energy the vacuum. Light propagates inward and has an atomosphere like wave like wake going out from it. How much of this vacuum of space is a supperconductor we must do more research on but to me it is very evident that it does exist and it does reach vast distances with out zero input. Well the input is reversed in that sense. It's hard to speculate any further since a great many things must be re-examined in our current teachings. Some things that are purely made up for no other reason then balancing an equasion must be immediately voided and real alternatives must be taken.
 
 The main problem in "our" universe is magnetism is key. Well yet it can be a great converter of force but it is not what runs it all. In anyway you look at it the electric component must first form to creat a flow. Once the flow is established then the magnetic field is converted from that flow. So taking those two very logical facts are taken into account one can greatly see that if we created a division with very high value charges that the outcome will be highly energized with current. Give order to the flow like direction and now you have direction of flow. Use fluid dynamics to shape that flow into whatever configuration you need and still keep in mind fluid dynamics. Pressures and reverse flows and even his fluid diode he created can be used in the electric field pumps. This process can be encouraged by a rather weird analogy of the sub with a pin hole in it. Think about the electric field as being the fluid and you only need a drain to ground. Put the coil to be energized all around the drain and walla current flow. If you want a one way flow then use bifilar coils for the current flow to be DC(?? Pulsed).
 In the example that Tesla showed with the circle of wire and globe electrodes all he needed to do was try varios coils in between the wto electrodes to see the effects. Tk used a helical coil as the one terminal and the ground wire in the middle as the drain. The double layer coil is the current coil.
 
 I think this is why Tesla spent so many years on the fluid devices. He needed to learn all about the fluid to make reasonable rules for this new fluid/gas like electric field.

 Splitting the rules into desity of gas to flow for liquids one could design advantages of both into one device using the electric field only. This field can be shaped by matter and division of that matter in 3d especially if that matter is conductive to the electric field but resistive(matter resistance or field constriction) to the current. Since resistance does not act the same way with higher voltages and lower current. it converts what current is left and passes the pure voltage like it has been filtered through the matter. The coil version uses pressure to do the same thing and is more efficient at it as well. Diode like abilities also are apparent in coils but these are very short in duration. We see this action in the charging time of a coil. <-Don't remember off hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ

 In this version we see the one wire motor that was expanded to two plates on either side of the core under the two plates. The exciter oscillator is under the metal skin of the box and thats where the two wires go for the battery. The reason they can't measure the voltage or current is because it is a 1 wire transfer to the two plates. In between the two plates there is a heavy copper coil connecting both plates. This keeps one plate always higher in potential then the other and a flow gets created in between these potentials or plates. As the flow increases it speeds up the disks. As shown the exciter also runs lights directly from the box. We know this must be a sudo sine wave of some sort. Most likely a square wave when inputter to a transformer, it will change to a sine wave I think? Correct me if I am wrong here.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15893 on: February 07, 2013, 11:50:23 PM »
The energy is equal to E= 1/2*L*I^2 in coil, so the energy gain is E= 1/2*DeltaL*I^2 where DeltaL = Lhigh - Llow.
Mathematical example:
Charge a coil at 1 Henry at 1 amp = 0.5 Joule.
Switch to 10 Henry always at 1 amp and discharge = 5 Joules.
DeltaL is 10-1 = 9
So Egain is 1/2*9*1^2 = 4.5 Joules.
What about the energy needed to change the inductance (L) during the whole cycle ?
Do you know of any method to change the inductance without expending any additional energy ?

Hypothesis:
1) Shorting a coil during the charging process (Llow) (maybe waiting 5*L/R that the current stabilize and mutual induction "disappear" due no current variation anymore) then opening the short just before discharging (Lhigh) is a possibility.
Yes, when the primary current stabilizes, the power transfer from the primary to secondary stops.

However, when pulsing an inductor, waiting for the current to stabilize means reaching the V/R current limit due to Ohm's Law.
Even approaching this V/R limit is very bad from the standpoint of efficiency.

To realize this, take a look at the attached graph which shows what happens when you pulse an inductor (coil, winding...).
Some of the electric energy delivered from the power supply is stored in the magnetic field (EL) of the inductor and some of the energy is converted to heat in the resistance of the winding (ER).

The energy stored in the magnetic field (EL) is recoverable, while the energy converted to heat (ER) in the resistance is not recoverable.
The break-even-point happens at approximately 1.15 of the L/R time constant "Tau" (see point C on the graph, where the green and blue lines cross).
When charging a coil, waiting longer than this time guarantees that more energy is dissipated as heat, than stored in its magnetic field :(
This is true in any circuit where energy is stored in an inductor. Including oscillating LCR circuits.

In practice, the process of energy recovery from an inductor also takes time, and during this recovery time the evil resistance also wastes energy, so this recovery process should be kept as short if possible (e.g. by keeping the pulse widths short or frequencies - high).
If the energy recovery process takes the same amount of time as the inductor charging process, then the break-even-point happens two times earlier.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15894 on: February 08, 2013, 02:10:40 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15895 on: February 08, 2013, 03:00:16 AM »
I believe that in order for TK's system to work, it has to start out low and work its way up to full power.  He has to have a circuit controller inside of the 2004 can.  It can work something like a SMPS.  In a way..  For the receiving coil to stay in resonance, the circuit controller has to adjust the input frequency and the wave power.  It probbaly operates at very high frequency for that exact reason.  So that the much lower frequency that the recieving coil gets, could be equal to or around the Earths Resonant Frequency or the 44Hz that the Frequency counter showed..This is just a Theory, and it might not mean anything, its just my thinking outa the box...  But in the patent, what could the current amplifier be.  On the Russian site,  that I got those TK schematic pics from, that I posted a few pages back.  They have it as a 3 or 5 turn coil over the secondary,  that is controlled by a "Phase Locked Loop", I believe.   In TK's Patent, in the reference notes, it has a Piezoelectric Transformer.  Could this be anything more than just an input for the return??  Now I will also show the circuit diagram for this device.  It has an adjustment for the duty cycle for the square wave.  What if you made a HillBilly Impulse signal by making the square wave duty cycle on the negative side very small and made the positive pulse right in the middle of the square wave, which would look just like the Impulse waveform that Bedini's Monopole wheel produces.  With that waveform you can have multiple secondarys off of the main primary of the open circuit system..  This is from the patent for this device.................PIEZOELECTRIC TRANSFORMER

In a converter or inverter comprising a switching circuit (23) for switching a d.c. input signal into a switched signal, a piezoelectric transformer (25) for driving a load (27) with a converter output signal, and an FM modulator (43-47) for detecting the converter output signal to produce a rectangular signal for adjusting a switched frequency of the switched signal, a duty ratio adjuster (49) is supplied with the d.c. input signal to control the rectangular signal for adjustment of a duty ratio of the switched signal. Preferably, a filter (29) filters the switched signal for the piezoelectric transformer. The converter is given a high efficiency by use of a rectifier on producing the converter output signal. In any event, the switching circuit may comprise first (31) and second (33) switching elements, which may be used as an active clamp circuit to linearize a feed forward characteristic of the duty ratio.

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« Reply #15896 on: February 08, 2013, 09:14:44 AM »
I cant find a free copy of thie IEEE Paper..  andrea might be able to get it>>  Can you?

Current and Voltage Phase Shift Regulation in Resonant Converters With Integration Control

This letter presents an application of the phase controller which allows a regulation of current and voltage phase shift in resonant circuit with nonperiodic voltage waveform. The phase controller has been implemented using the voltage-controlled oscillator generator operating with double resonant frequency, creation of additional auxiliary voltage signal, and phase-locked loop. The results of computer simulations and laboratory experiments show that the proposed phase controller allows a simple and efficient phase shift regulation for all known systems of integration control with a continuous and discontinuous resonant current flow.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15897 on: February 08, 2013, 10:01:36 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ

 In this version we see the one wire motor that was expanded to two plates on either side of the core under the two plates. The exciter oscillator is under the metal skin of the box and thats where the two wires go for the battery. The reason they can't measure the voltage or current is because it is a 1 wire transfer to the two plates. In between the two plates there is a heavy copper coil connecting both plates. This keeps one plate always higher in potential then the other and a flow gets created in between these potentials or plates. As the flow increases it speeds up the disks. As shown the exciter also runs lights directly from the box. We know this must be a sudo sine wave of some sort. Most likely a square wave when inputter to a transformer, it will change to a sine wave I think? Correct me if I am wrong here.

hi

i still not understand how this motor to motion, because is just rotor part, no stator, and how is supported power to rotor, i see just two disc, one disk is steel and brass is joined, beetween is permanent magnet ring/tube on shaft, and on magnet is coil what is joined two disk brass part, and on shaft end is toroid transformer/inductor, if I good know

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« Reply #15898 on: February 08, 2013, 12:04:25 PM »
I cant find a free copy of this IEEE Paper.. 
It's a pity that they demand so much money for IEEE papers.
IMO scientific information should be free.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15899 on: February 08, 2013, 12:05:28 PM »
@verpies
Thank for your precision about the energy wasted in a RL, effectively beyond 1.15 L/R the process is a total  wastage.
(I save this diagram).
This is a huge problem because at this stage current isn't stabilized so we have full mutual induction, unless you stabilize voluntarily with a current regulator or with a BJT in linear mode.
Problem as far I know when a BJT is in linear mode it dissipate a lot of heat to...
It will need a transistor that doesn't dissipate power in linear mode, a Josephson superconducting transistor ?


Look like the mechanical solution is more realist at our current technological level.




 

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