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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13176747 times)

Offline elementSix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15870 on: February 06, 2013, 06:20:53 AM »
They say, if you want to hide something.  Hide it in plain Sight..  TK's Harmonic Reactors...  What would happen if he used the middle part to hook up his antenna and also his ground???  They all resonant together???  Both of these are used in his 2012 Aqua. Video...

HEY Zeit,  Theres you Transformer with 4 secondarys on it, the little one..  Have you given up so easly on that Russian Patent??

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15871 on: February 06, 2013, 07:33:56 AM »
    Verpies and All:
   Do you think that it would it be possible to use two 12 batteries instead of G1 and G2.

  I agree that separating the two halves of the yoke core with paper of tape, would make a difference in breaking the flux interactions between the primary and secondary core halves.
  How important is using the braid on the primary half of the yoke, is it best just add it, does it matter, much?
  Winding a yoke core with those few winding as in the diagram can be done in a short while. An hour or even less time, possibly just a few minutes, so is anyone replicating this?

   So, the yoke device does not need to use any transistors for the switching function????

   I've found that on my yoke core inverter circuits, the transistors are the weak link, as they can easily fry on voltages higher than 12v. But much more light output kicks in from the bulbs, when using voltages of 15v on. Which makes the core resonate at a much stronger and more audible (ringing) level. When using higher voltages louder ringing means higher draw, and higher output. It's been nearly impossible to have strong current output, without strong ringing noise.
  In my inverter circuits incandescent bulbs get hot quickly, so this can't be radiant, but hot electricity instead.

  There is no feed back path on the Wesley yoke circuit? Like when taking the secondary output, back to the primary,  as is done when using transistors in the circuits. Can this be done, here in this case, also? Has anyone tried that?
  Any way,  just some thoughts and questions that are spinning around my head...
   


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15872 on: February 06, 2013, 09:39:50 AM »
Do you think that it would it be possible to use two 12 batteries instead of G1 and G2 ?
Not directly. The output of batteries is DC but the output if signal generators (G1 & G2) is AC or PDC.

How important is using the braid on the primary half of the yoke, is it best just add it, does it matter, much?
It matters very much. It is essential.
IMO opinion a copper foil should be used, not copper braid.  The working device used a foil.

Winding a yoke core with those few winding as in the diagram can be done in a short while. An hour or even less time, possibly just a few minutes, so is anyone replicating this?
Because people don't have the special antique soviet yoke cores and appropriate signal generators and test equipment to tune it.  Also, no coherent tunning procedure was ever published.

So, the yoke device does not need to use any transistors for the switching function? ???
It does. Transistors or other semiconductor elements are inside the signal generators.

I've found that on my yoke core inverter circuits, the transistors are the weak link, as they can easily fry on voltages higher than 12v.
That's because the pulses generated by those transistors are too long and you are approaching the bad V/R limit of the winding circuit.

There is no feed back path on the Wesley yoke circuit? Like when taking the secondary output, back to the primary,  as is done when using transistors in the circuits. Can this be done, here in this case, also? Has anyone tried that?
There is no such feedback path. Nobody to my knowledge has tried that.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15872 on: February 06, 2013, 09:39:50 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15873 on: February 06, 2013, 12:04:17 PM »
hi

can someone explain what is behind mr Antanas on this page:
http://www.freeenergylt.narod2.ru/antanas_energy_6/

is with next pic's (oscilator circuit) something same?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15874 on: February 06, 2013, 12:24:28 PM »
....has anyone any idea why the web page of the yoke device has been removed (404) if not because this device actually worked?
It seemed to work.
Also, I noticed that on this page Antanas has links to dozens of devices but not to the Yoke device.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15874 on: February 06, 2013, 12:24:28 PM »
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Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15875 on: February 06, 2013, 02:50:22 PM »
HEY Zeit,  Theres you Transformer with 4 secondarys on it, the little one..  Have you given up so easly on that Russian Patent??
Tried it with four SCR Trigger Transformers. Strange waveforms showed up on the screen of the oscilloscope but no resonance.

IMO opinion a copper foil should be used, not copper braid.  The working device used a foil.
And this foil drives the primary magnetic circuit into saturation, especially when a spark is applied to it.

That means -if I'm correct- that the primary coil must operate near (or in) magnetic saturation in order to get the OU effect. The primary coil bumps the secondary coil (with twice the frequency) but not vice versa. And I can see no reason why this should not work in the range of 50Hz instead of Mhz.

Also, I noticed that on this page Antanas has links to dozens of devices but not to the Yoke device.
This website is a collection of non-working schematics to keep people busy for nothing. So a working schematic there was quite inappropriate and had to be removed quickly. :(

Anyway I have always wondered what kind of a difference it could be mentioned in one of the TK patents. In a parametric transformer the difference would be the frequency, as it seems. Interesting so far given the obscure TK patent description.

Supplement: Could it be that the yoke device works only with that special Russian type of ferrite (ОС-90.38ПЦ12) because it is low quality and therefore it is easier to magnetically saturate it? :)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15876 on: February 06, 2013, 05:30:30 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15877 on: February 06, 2013, 06:50:16 PM »
Supplement: Could it be that the yoke device works only with that special Russian type of ferrite (ОС-90.38ПЦ12) because it is low quality and therefore it is easier to magnetically saturate it? :)
Anything is possible. That ferrite  is not made out of a very advanced material. I would not be surprised a large portion of it was clay.
"Inferior" parts sometimes work better for exotic applications.
Case in point: Old soviet rectifier diodes have such sloppy diffuse semiconductor junctions, that they work better as DSRDs for generating nanopulses in kW range, than modern diodes with "sharp" PN junctions.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15878 on: February 06, 2013, 07:21:00 PM »
  Verpies: 
   Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, as well as all the other questions.

   I think that the next important point for my replication of the yoke device is to be able to run it from two 12v batteries, instead of the G1 and G2. If this is not possible, then I'm not sure as to how to proceed. I've learned that sometimes we make things more complicated than they really are. And there may be ways to simplify this yoke device's input source, also. Even without all the transistors and other components found in the SG, etz...
Ideally, I would use solar power to charge a couple of 12v batteries, as the input source for the yoke device. As relying on SG and SA, is not going to work in a real power out situation.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15878 on: February 06, 2013, 07:21:00 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15879 on: February 06, 2013, 07:42:47 PM »
Ideally, I would use solar power to charge a couple of 12VDC batteries, as the input source for the yoke device. As relying on SG and SA, is not going to work in a real power out situation.
Yes, in a non-research unit, a cheap transistor or IC oscillators would have to be used instead of the expensive programmable signal generators.  For example one of these oscillators in the MHz range.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15880 on: February 06, 2013, 08:18:16 PM »

Supplement: Could it be that the yoke device works only with that special Russian type of ferrite (ОС-90.38ПЦ12) because it is low quality and therefore it is easier to magnetically saturate it? :)
Like T1000 said in one of him yoke device video , he take the OC-90 core accidentally by one simple reason -- it was the biggest
ferrite core that he could find . After examine russian OC ( Отклоняющая Система  ___ Deflection system ) cores I find thats is true
OC 90.38ПЦ12 deflection system hade one of bigest ferrite made in USSR - OC-5 ( please check in attachment ) .
 By the russian technical books( page 679 in attachment ) then big ferrite cores are exposed to HF magnetics field ,  the cavity resonance take place in this
cores . And it manifest at frequencies around 1mhz . The others cores may work at another frequencies , but T1000 could not
work with frequencies above 2 Mhz couse Wellman pc based functional generator PCGU1000, that he hade use , work only till 2Mhz . So he was lucky- the
generator  frequency range match the ferrite core rezonance frequency .



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15880 on: February 06, 2013, 08:18:16 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15881 on: February 06, 2013, 08:24:44 PM »
at the end of the TK patent ,in the "documents considered to be relevant" ,reference is made to the device of Bedini.its devices nothinng to do to the Tesla Transformer.just Bifilar coils. TT is only smoke and mirrors.like the grounding wire( it is just to prevent the high voltage static charge).


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15882 on: February 06, 2013, 09:00:56 PM »
another reference in the TK patent:
http://www.directorypatent.com/EP/EP0758159.html

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15883 on: February 06, 2013, 10:31:27 PM »
Only Antanas personaly can answer this question.

Hi
Mr Antanas english skill, may be is too weak, because I so many posted/asked him and about these devices, but no answer, and my russian language skill is weak too (maybe little bit understand, but read and write is nothing, only in 5. class I studied)

thanks for links, is usefull information for me

rgrds zcsaba77

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15884 on: February 07, 2013, 12:05:42 AM »
  In the patent it's stated that a battery can also be used for the input source, and also that the secondary coil output is sent back to help recharge the same input source battery.
  That would mean that solar panels can also be used to maintain the input batteries constantly charged up, and at a relatively steady levels.
  I'm interested in having an "off grid" type of system, one that does not rely on the use of expensive test equipment to function properly.

   Thanks to all for the info

   NickZ



 

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