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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13204632 times)

Offline forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15825 on: February 01, 2013, 01:21:14 PM »
Hi elementsix, Horsepower is simply another unit of power, 1 horsepower is about 750 Watts, this is power, which is the rate at which energy is applied or dissipated.
It is not necessarily the amount of energy. In my opinion, Tesla is definitely talking about a value of the oscillating power, not the output power.
I think in most cases when Tesla talks of a "rate of movement of electricity" he is talking about oscillating power or reactive power.
Not "output power" or dissipated energy. Tesla coils can accumulate a lot of oscillating power/energy but that is not output until it is dissipated in a useful load
as useful work, then it can be called output energy.

A 30 Kw motor is about a 40 HP motor. My car engine can produce 151 Kw of power which is about 203 Horse Power.

Current is not power, power is not necessarily energy and oscillating energy/power is not necessarily output or work done on a load.

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Farmhand

Please don't mess people in heads ! Power is all we need, but SUSTAINED power , not a power burst but continuos power magnification and this is what Tesla did and if you carefully read that (and other ) patents you will surely agree with me. ONLY REAL POWER can generate various effects he described in his lectures., if that was only HV or high frequency he would never use the term : magnification.
You touched the truth saying he had HUGE reactive power in his circuit - yes, indeed. And he knew how to convert it into usable effects and that's all what we need....


Here I want to mark something which may sound silly for you : I believe in RCL resonant circuit power is always real until disturbed. Like a soap bubble - nice look but you do not touch it

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15826 on: February 01, 2013, 03:24:03 PM »
Please don't mess people in heads!
How is Farmhand messing with people heads by pointing out the facts, such as?:
- Force is not energy (nor power)
- Voltage is not energy (nor power)
- Current is not energy (nor power)
- Electric charge is not energy (nor power)
- Peak power is not average or continuous power

He is doing them a favor by not allowing them to deceive themselves when they see more current at the input than the output (or voltage) or higher power for a fraction of a cycle. 

Also, the distinction between peak power and continuous power is very important in analysis of power concentrating systems, such as circuits involving long charges and short discharges (e.g. spark-gaps, shorting capacitors, opening inductors), where power is briefly concentrated in time.

Farmhand is doing those people a favor by arming them with tools allowing to separate the wheat from the chaff.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15827 on: February 01, 2013, 03:34:59 PM »
 
 Now Hoppy you are nit picking again. It is not weather he uses 1 wire. It is merely a way of showing how this action can be applied to ANY capacity not just our earth. If you look at the Tesla description again of his one wire system you will see the same methodology to power a load with one single wire. In the case of TK he used it to get real current from the ground. Which by the way is also the way Tesla used it in his transmittting system.
 
 Does anyone not see the parallels here?
 Are we only gonna argue semantics and not figure this out?
 
 I for one have set my course of investigation on this method. This seems the most promissing avenue of research I have found yet. It is soo simple it stuns me that this was never looked into before.
 
 If we understand that longitudinal energy is much different then our current understanding of traditional energy flow. It does not need two wires to propagate. The method to extract energy is 90 degrees out of phase to the traditional method. The examples that I have shown show this fact.
 
 We have to start looking at the wire as a tube for force(field). This force can be compressed and moved in the same action in that tube. Just like a straw moves a liquid if compressed and slid one way or the other. The field around a wire follows the wire. The field can be manipulated. Wires are matter and contain bound charges. Those charges can be shifted back and forth and create a pressure or vacuum. The vacuum = negative, The pressure = positive. Charges have fields as well.
 
 In AC systems these charges are moved back and forth between two wires. In DC the charge flow is in either direction but only one direction with two wires. In this system we use only one wire and move the charges back and forth between two points of the same wire. Of course there is also pulsed systems but in the initial testing phase I will endevour to do only unpulsed systems if possible.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15827 on: February 01, 2013, 03:34:59 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15828 on: February 01, 2013, 04:31:28 PM »

 Now Hoppy you are nit picking again. It is not weather he uses 1 wire. It is merely a way of showing how this action can be applied to ANY capacity not just our earth. If you look at the Tesla description again of his one wire system you will see the same methodology to power a load with one single wire. In the case of TK he used it to get real current from the ground. Which by the way is also the way Tesla used it in his transmittting system.
 


You need to show clearly how a 1-wire system 'sucking-up' ground currents could have possibly applied to TK's setup. Frankly, I think its nonsense! Carry on dreaming. By the way, there is absolutely no  evidence that Tesla got - "real current from the ground". Maybe you really mean - used the earth as a conductor to carry current derived from the grid that powered his devices?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15829 on: February 01, 2013, 09:08:01 PM »
Maybe you really mean - used the earth as a conductor to carry current derived from the grid that powered his devices?

That's what I'm thinking. .
 
Having said that,  I'm leaving this forum. There is nothing for free... and that includes free electricity. I got better use of my time by doing something else.

The Best to ALL!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15830 on: February 01, 2013, 11:19:33 PM »
So you say that the ground has no current or even capable of currents?
 
 
"In an electrical system, a ground loop usually refers to a current, almost always unwanted, in a conductor connecting two points that are supposed to be at the same potential, often ground, but are actually at different potentials. Ground loops created by improperly designed or improperly installed equipment are a major cause of noise and interference in audio and video systems. They can also create an electric shock hazard, since ostensibly "grounded" parts of the equipment, which are often accessible to users, are not at ground potential."
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_(electricity)
 
 So this explaination is just a dream? This is a well know acceptable explaination of ground loops. I'm not dreaming. If the ground is capable of carrying a current then it is capable of producing currents. What initiates a ground loop is two points of a conductor that have a potential difference. Weather that conductor is the earth ground or a ground plane or even a conductor it is all related to this process. Why are you ignoring these facts?
 
 So the experiments that I showed have nothing to do with this process?? I showed each piece and the experimental proof how it is accomplished.
 
 Anyways it doesn't matter if you believe me or your eyes, this is the avenue I am going down now. When I get the experimental proof I will show all.. Hopefully I'll have a decent video camera by then.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15831 on: February 01, 2013, 11:44:57 PM »
So you say that the ground has no current or even capable of currents?
 
 
"In an electrical system, a ground loop usually refers to a current, almost always unwanted, in a conductor connecting two points that are supposed to be at the same potential, often ground, but are actually at different potentials. Ground loops created by improperly designed or improperly installed equipment are a major cause of noise and interference in audio and video systems. They can also create an electric shock hazard, since ostensibly "grounded" parts of the equipment, which are often accessible to users, are not at ground potential."
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_(electricity)
 
 So this explaination is just a dream? This is a well know acceptable explaination of ground loops. I'm not dreaming. If the ground is capable of carrying a current then it is capable of producing currents. What initiates a ground loop is two points of a conductor that have a potential difference. Weather that conductor is the earth ground or a ground plane or even a conductor it is all related to this process. Why are you ignoring these facts?
 
 So the experiments that I showed have nothing to do with this process?? I showed each piece and the experimental proof how it is accomplished.
 
 Anyways it doesn't matter if you believe me or your eyes, this is the avenue I am going down now. When I get the experimental proof I will show all.. Hopefully I'll have a decent video camera by then.

Its well known that natural telluric ground currents are produced primarily through geomagnetics but I've never heard of these being used to power banks of 1KW lamps! I wish you the best of luck in your attempts to conjure up these telluric currents to run your electrical loads.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15832 on: February 02, 2013, 01:05:24 AM »
RESONANCE IN RESONANCE 

Using a High Frequency system that has a certain waveform and is self adjusting.  Can you use a HF pulse  into a Large Primary Coil that is Tuned to resonante at the  high frequency pulses?  The secondary coil could be tuned to a certain frequency , like the earths natural resoance, which is around 7.5 to 7.83 Hz.  The seconadry Coil could also be tuned to the resonant frequency of the primary or  it can be tuned to the resonant frequency of the lower energy it recieves from primary induction.  Are you following me.  There are a couple ways of producing this excess energy, that I'm trying to convey to you guys..  By having a large primary, with few turns over the secondary, and having the HF pulses being shot thru the air and into the secondary coil that is either tuned to the primary and or the Earth.  But when the inuction energy from the primary enters the secondary, it is at a much lower frequency.  So the secondary has to be tuned to that frequency.  So if you adjust or set up the Primary coil and capacitor to the right range of HF, so as to have the induction energy produced in the 2nd coil the same frequency it is tuned to, which would be the Earths natural frequency..  Sorry if I'm not to precise with the way I am presenting this.  By this simple arrangment, If this is possible in any of the ways I have said, please put your 2 cents in.  I am still learning about Resonance, So if something I have said is not possible, let me know.  Thanks for your added input.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15833 on: February 02, 2013, 01:25:14 AM »
So you say that the ground has no current or even capable of currents?
 
 
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 So this explaination is just a dream? This is a well know acceptable explaination of ground loops. I'm not dreaming. If the ground is capable of carrying a current then it is capable of producing currents. What initiates a ground loop is two points of a conductor that have a potential difference. Weather that conductor is the earth ground or a ground plane or even a conductor it is all related to this process. Why are you ignoring these facts?
 
 So the experiments that I showed have nothing to do with this process?? I showed each piece and the experimental proof how it is accomplished.
 
 Anyways it doesn't matter if you believe me or your eyes, this is the avenue I am going down now. When I get the experimental proof I will show all.. Hopefully I'll have a decent video camera by then.

You have to remember that there are a whole building of Illuminati Government Trolls that are paid to work the internet and especially these forums.  So don't be discouraged by non-believers or bashers, cause most of them are paid to through you off and lead you down the wrong path.  They use many screen names and even support themselves with those screen names. But you can also learn a lot from our fellow members, So just be nice and open minded and test your ideas, cause unless you test them you may never know. Remember that Small Minds Live in Small Worlds.  Good Luck

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15834 on: February 02, 2013, 01:31:22 AM »
Its well known that natural telluric ground currents are produced primarily through geomagnetics but I've never heard of these being used to power banks of 1KW lamps! I wish you the best of luck in your attempts to conjure up these telluric currents to run your electrical loads.

 Telluric currents are a natural effect not the effect that any on these examples use. If you agree that telluric currents exist then there must be a way to artificially create them and utilize them. But like I already said the telluric currents are but one form. Ground loops are not telluric currents. It is a current that is set up via two grounds and applying a potential to one of them. But this can be used in such a way that you loop the current into the device and utilize the current to cause a heavy magnetic field which you can induce another current from then disconnect you system from the ground and let it rebalance.
 
 Listen I don't wish to have any more conversation with you about this. Simply because you are another of the people here that seem to explain this process like it is magic. Conjuring is not what I do. Utilizing a natural form of energy ie. motion of charges is not conjuration and we do this every day. What is a water fall?? Don't we harness them? Is that a friken conjuration???
 
 Please if you are not here to research and explore these effects then stop wasting our time ok?
 
 What I don't understand is that why are you people here? What is your purpose for being on a free energy research forum if all you do is make fun of honest people.
 
 I'm curious.. Got to have stephan do another ip check...

 So now Hoppy goes on the same list of word twisting nay sayers like the great deciever Verpies. Verpies is wasabi and decieved us all by creating another personna on this forum to belittle and decieve us. I wouldn't believe anything Verpies says at all. He has shown his intent and his ability to lie to us all.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15835 on: February 02, 2013, 02:20:21 AM »
There is nothing for free... and that includes free electricity. I got better use of my time by doing something else.
But don't open up your curtains while doing something else, otherwise you have to pay for the daylight that is flooding into your rooms. ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15837 on: February 02, 2013, 06:32:00 AM »
Thanks A.King21,  That was a great video.  How would that pulse be created by a circuit.?  Isn't that what TK's doing?  He did site Bedini in his Patent.. He could be  Using that impulse waveform, but with Solid state instead of monopole??

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15838 on: February 02, 2013, 09:52:12 AM »

 Telluric currents are a natural effect not the effect that any on these examples use. If you agree that telluric currents exist then there must be a way to artificially create them and utilize them. But like I already said the telluric currents are but one form. Ground loops are not telluric currents. It is a current that is set up via two grounds and applying a potential to one of them. But this can be used in such a way that you loop the current into the device and utilize the current to cause a heavy magnetic field which you can induce another current from then disconnect you system from the ground and let it rebalance.
 
 Listen I don't wish to have any more conversation with you about this. Simply because you are another of the people here that seem to explain this process like it is magic. Conjuring is not what I do. Utilizing a natural form of energy ie. motion of charges is not conjuration and we do this every day. What is a water fall?? Don't we harness them? Is that a friken conjuration???
 
 Please if you are not here to research and explore these effects then stop wasting our time ok?
 
 What I don't understand is that why are you people here? What is your purpose for being on a free energy research forum if all you do is make fun of honest people.
 
 I'm curious.. Got to have stephan do another ip check...

 So now Hoppy goes on the same list of word twisting nay sayers like the great deciever Verpies. Verpies is wasabi and decieved us all by creating another personna on this forum to belittle and decieve us. I wouldn't believe anything Verpies says at all. He has shown his intent and his ability to lie to us all.

I'm not posting under other names and am not out to deceive anyone. I have genuinely tried to understand how the TK device operates and I now know how. Stephan will remove me from the forum if he feels fit. I will not bother you again on this thread and wish you every success in your new venture.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15839 on: February 02, 2013, 10:26:37 AM »
Sorry if I'm not to precise with the way I am presenting this.  By this simple arrangement, If this is possible in any of the ways I have said, please put your 2 cents in.  I am still learning about Resonance, So if something I have said is not possible, let me know.  Thanks for your added input.
Is this what you envision?

 

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