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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13277706 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15420 on: December 21, 2012, 07:30:15 PM »
@ Wotsup,

In all probability the braid hides the 'live' conductor. It would be reasonable to assume that TK realised that he needed to up his game and come up with a better trick, so improved his technology by using a high voltage supply, so as to minimise the size of the 'live' conductor in order to conceal it within that braid. It is very strange that the investigating team failed to look carefully at the bolt. Once again, the video shows us tantalising clues of fakery which have been presented in your post.

PS. Wotsup with you and your dates!  ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15421 on: December 21, 2012, 07:52:59 PM »
@hoppy
 
   Parmetric resonance was utilized by Tesla where he often referred to his secondaries circulating currents or obtaining voltages in magnitudes greater than the line.  The oscillators were run below 10khz to exclude losses due to rf radiation and developed voltages between terminals of millions of volts.  The current as low as possible to avoid resistance losses.  I read somewhere the MT was designed for 80 or so amps at a million volts minimum.  Thats 80millionva which when transformed into 100 volts would yield 800,000 amps.  Thats an 80megawatt transmission scheme and I don't see any plans at Wardenclyffe for engines to convert 80megawatts of fossil fuels to power this oscillator.  I see enough power to overcome losses in the oscillator and bring it up to maximum activity over an extended period of time but not 80megava real time pumping.  Perhaps the receiver oscillators were designed to not dampen the mt oscillations.  In his pump analogy where the Earth is a ballon the mt would increase pressure inside the balloon.  This would force pistons up at the receivers.  The pistons would fall as the mt piston rose.  The pistons falling would be in unison with the pressure dropping in the balloon.  No power radiated as the pistons become extensions of the mt.  They help the MT piston return to it's up position as they go to their down position. This is all good as long as you don't load the receivers.  As you load the pistons you end up damping the oscillations of the entire system.  Whatever work the pistons do is missing in returning the MT piston to top dead.  The only way this scheme can work is if the load oscillators dip below a scalar potential and energy enters the system in proportion to the amount of energy leaving the system in the work performed by the receivers.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15422 on: December 21, 2012, 08:15:11 PM »
As I have stated a while back, the guy swapping at the bolt was very cautious as he wasn't totally sure that the bolt wont carry any current at that time. Little moisture around it and possibly one uninsulated strand of the hidden hot wire would not be a pleasant experience.. ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15423 on: December 21, 2012, 08:40:08 PM »
So again, for me there is enough probable and real proof to show TK tricked the Aq2. Someone would have to have an identical heater element and a variac to see how much juice is required to produce the same visual red illumination of the elements. But is it not really necessary cause this is how he did it.
And that means? The best thing to do is to close down this thread?

Cui bono?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15424 on: December 21, 2012, 09:58:46 PM »
@hoppy
 
   Parmetric resonance was utilized by Tesla where he often referred to his secondaries circulating currents or obtaining voltages in magnitudes greater than the line.  The oscillators were run below 10khz to exclude losses due to rf radiation and developed voltages between terminals of millions of volts.  The current as low as possible to avoid resistance losses.  I read somewhere the MT was designed for 80 or so amps at a million volts minimum.  Thats 80millionva which when transformed into 100 volts would yield 800,000 amps.  Thats an 80megawatt transmission scheme and I don't see any plans at Wardenclyffe for engines to convert 80megawatts of fossil fuels to power this oscillator.  I see enough power to overcome losses in the oscillator and bring it up to maximum activity over an extended period of time but not 80megava real time pumping.  Perhaps the receiver oscillators were designed to not dampen the mt oscillations.  In his pump analogy where the Earth is a ballon the mt would increase pressure inside the balloon.  This would force pistons up at the receivers.  The pistons would fall as the mt piston rose.  The pistons falling would be in unison with the pressure dropping in the balloon.  No power radiated as the pistons become extensions of the mt.  They help the MT piston return to it's up position as they go to their down position. This is all good as long as you don't load the receivers.  As you load the pistons you end up damping the oscillations of the entire system.  Whatever work the pistons do is missing in returning the MT piston to top dead.  The only way this scheme can work is if the load oscillators dip below a scalar potential and energy enters the system in proportion to the amount of energy leaving the system in the work performed by the receivers.

Thanks for the info sparks but I'm sure this is not the modus-operandi for the Aqua2 device.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15425 on: December 21, 2012, 10:10:22 PM »
And that means? The best thing to do is to close down this thread?

Cui bono?

Why, just carry on developing your own theories on how you think TK did it supported by video clues like Wotsup has done. We are all entitled to come to our own conclusions. I'm sure this thread can support another 1000 pages!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15426 on: December 21, 2012, 10:55:29 PM »
@wattsup, I am still in shock-I have been following Kapanadze for as long as you. Not now, having looked at green box vid again and man with coil and your theory stands up well. Kapanadze should be prosecuted for obtaining money by deception. I cannot believe that people there did not simply turn the grid power off in the location to double check. How can any man have the brazen cheek to put a fake device infront of camera and news press thinking he could fool the world. The earth connection in aqua2 being concreted is enough to lead to suspicion as all other earth connections I have ever seen are never concreted. When I was a sparks 10yrs ago I put in dozens of Earth rods and trips but never ever used concrete. I will continue experimenting but will forget Kapanadze devises.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15427 on: December 22, 2012, 01:34:31 AM »
That certainly qualifies as "so simple that you'll laugh".  Are you laughing?

BTW: The inner wire does not have to be special.  Even a regular enameled copper wire insulation can withstand 3000V

@Wattsup,
Could you replicate those faking principles and document them on HiRes video?  Pictures are worth a thousand words...and videos even more.

@verpies

No I am not laughing. I am just stunned, mad, disappointed, but not disillusioned and in one way happy today that it is all out and now I can just go back to my own works knowing that TK is just a showman and that since day one on this thread, while we were searching for the real OU effect, TK was just pretending. So we all have to do better then TK.

I don't think replicating how he faked it is a constructive use of time. This basically confirms the fact that anyone showing a device that they keep secret is simply a fraud. Can't be more simpler then that.

@Happy

Today the 21st of December, 2012 is supposed to be the end of the world or the start of a new beginning. It is just fitting that TK be revealed today as a fraud. Sorry guys but that is the reality and again it is only up to us to do better. Not better fakes, but real OU devices.

I already know which way to start so I can now get back to my bench. I will start a new thread that has nothing to do with the TK or SM devices. It will be a thread for true R&D, one step at a time to build up to an eventual OU device. I just know now where we are going wrong and what is required to attract more ether energy then the energy expended to attract it. I had mentioned about the real nature of coils in the Energy Amplification thread. I put that all aside since the TK thread was moving along but always in dead ends, I realized that the TK device was a fake so I had to find out how because nothing in the function of the TK devices were consistent with what I knew about coils and there was nothing in what TK was saying that could convince me that he knew. He was just bluffing, enjoying the attention and just riding the wave of popularity and the new requests this produced for more money-making demos.

Since achieving OU is equivalent to producing a new method of energy accumulation, it is only logical to consider that this will require that OUers change their present perspective on what energy, ether, electricity, coil function, coupling and overunity really is. Technically, there is no such a thing as overunity. You take energy from a waterfall with a turbine or energy from the sun with solar collectors or energy from the ether with an "ether trap" once we know how it works.

@Zeitmaschine

Yes that is exactly what I had thought was used for so long and then dismissed anything from being curious but there in lies the precise illusion. If you look at my second to last image on previous page there is the greatest clue. If the washer and crimp was one piece, then the wire should be perpendicular to the center of the washer. But it is not. Look carefully and you will see the washer is above the wire that is going down the hole. These guys have played us royally since day one.

When @stivep went there or when the @a.king21 guy went there, you can hear in the Aq2 video and @stiveps video, both guys are way to nice, way to understanding and not pushy enough to do such an on-the-spot examination in the limited time frame they gave them. But still if some more effort was done on demanding certain things, we would have quickly realized they are playing a game.

Anyways, if you knew how sorry I am to be the harbinger of such bad news, but I am always open to both what the good or the bad will bring as long as it has a truth label tagged to it. But I really did not expect this to be as it is. We have all postulated so many operational theories that showed the best level of intellectual exercises you can get. The problem is we have 100 times more OU in our minds then any of the TK gang. So what this all proves is in the grand scheme of things, we are the OU finders and will make the difference for this world of ours and not those secret holding shmucks.

So now we have to grow up and become independent minded OUers. It only means now we have to leave our mothers or any secret holders petticoat and become mature OUers that only require their own intellect and bench works to advance towards OU.

I think I now know how to get OU or at least why we have not gotten it yet and I will open a new thread soon to start working really towards that, and, I can tell you guys right now, I will never look at another secret holders device again. When such assholes pop up on the forums, we should just tell them to go to hell. They either disclose or they depart. Soon these guys will realize the only way they will get our FREE attention, assistance, expertise, critique, help, etc., is to disclose their device open source. Otherwise let them peddle their crap elsewhere because a secret holder can only tell lies and do tricks.

wattsup

PS: Back to the bench for me.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15428 on: December 22, 2012, 02:01:10 AM »
This red always catch's your attention..  It is hard to read thoe..
I need help in picking a few good elements to test.  I have a good friend who has gotten me some time after the holidays to use a Terranova NMR device.  I got on a waiting list that students and even teachers sign up to use this and I was lucky enough to get on it.  It will be a few weeks but I need some suggestions on what to use and how to test the voltage that comes off of the sample.  I know I probably need a ground and I want to make my own coil around the sample to pickup the energy.  I need some suggestions from people who don't think that the TK device is fake.  There is to much proof that this device puts out tons of energy and he has not made any money off of it or he wouldn't live in such a shitty house.  I mean come .  So let me know of your good ideas over the next few weeks and I will let you know the results.  Thanks ahead of time..

How do you get 100KW's out of a 120v plug??

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15429 on: December 22, 2012, 02:53:04 AM »
@Wattsup
Keep me posted to your new threads.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15430 on: December 22, 2012, 03:10:12 AM »
@Zeitmaschine

Yes that is exactly what I had thought was used for so long and then dismissed anything from being curious but there in lies the precise illusion. If you look at my second to last image on previous page there is the greatest clue. If the washer and crimp was one piece, then the wire should be perpendicular to the center of the washer. But it is not. Look carefully and you will see the washer is above the wire that is going down the hole.
Sorry, I can't see anything perpendicular or not perpendicular on this image because of the poor image quality. :(

To me it looks like a cable shoe with a ground wire (braid) crimped to it.

Today the 21st of December, 2012 is supposed to be the end of the world or the start of a new beginning. It is just fitting that TK be revealed today as a fraud. Sorry guys but that is the reality and again it is only up to us to do better. Not better fakes, but real OU devices.

Anyways, if you knew how sorry I am to be the harbinger of such bad news, but I am always open to both what the good or the bad will bring as long as it has a truth label tagged to it.
And the good news is that all these »fakes« could be pure imagination. There is no hard evidence that there is a wire hidden within the ground braid. There is no hard evidence that the cable guy has a hidden cable in his sleeve and steps on an imaginary contact. There is no hard evidence that there is a hidden wire that supplies the tin can with power. It is all just a »could be« and a »maybe«.

It is true that a video can't proof any OU. But it is also true that a video can't proof any subtle tricks.

But I really did not expect this to be as it is. We have all postulated so many operational theories that showed the best level of intellectual exercises you can get. The problem is we have 100 times more OU in our minds then any of the TK gang.
Then why has nobody found Tesla's OU yet? If Tesla had OU then somebody should have found it by now. If Tesla had no OU then nobody will find it ever, I'm afraid.

I think I now know how to get OU or at least why we have not gotten it yet and I will open a new thread soon to start working really towards that, and, I can tell you guys right now, I will never look at another secret holders device again.
Interesting! And if it works then we put a green painted box around it, so it looks like Kapanadze's one. :D

And yes, since lately this thread must look to the casual reader as if someone tries to distract the people away from it by all available means. But maybe that's just my imagination. 8) 8)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15431 on: December 22, 2012, 04:20:06 AM »
The question of all (TK) questions just crossed my mind:

a) Where for the world is in the 100KW tent presentation the hidden cable that can provide 220V at 450A? Runs it also through the sleeve of some guy? And

b) to what is it connected? To the next wall outlet?

But I'm sure someone will find a fake in this video which no one on site could find.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15432 on: December 22, 2012, 09:35:48 AM »

It is true that a video can't proof any OU. But it is also true that a video can't proof any subtle tricks.
Then why has nobody found Tesla's OU yet? If Tesla had OU then somebody should have found it by now. If Tesla had no OU then nobody will find it ever, I'm afraid.
Interesting! And if it works then we put a green painted box around it, so it looks like Kapanadze's one. :D

And yes, since lately this thread must look to the casual reader as if someone tries to distract the people away from it by all available means. But maybe that's just my imagination. 8) 8)

Its not a case of proving anything. Its simply a case of each individual reaching his/her own conclusion. Its also not an attempt to "distract people away from it by all available means". It may appear this way to you as a few of us have now decided that the guy faked it big time. I agree with Wottsup that its very probable that his other videos were also faked. You are free to carry on posting your ideas and theories just as others are. 

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« Reply #15433 on: December 22, 2012, 09:39:07 AM »
The question of all (TK) questions just crossed my mind:

a) Where for the world is in the 100KW tent presentation the hidden cable that can provide 220V at 450A? Runs it also through the sleeve of some guy? And


Very likely just a bigger and different type of sleeve.  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15434 on: December 22, 2012, 10:21:48 AM »
And the good news is that all these »fakes« could be pure imagination. There is no hard evidence that there is a wire hidden within the ground braid. There is no hard evidence that the cable guy has a hidden cable in his sleeve and steps on an imaginary contact. There is no hard evidence that there is a hidden wire that supplies the tin can with power. It is all just a »could be« and a »maybe«.
It is true that the evidence uncovered by Wattsup would not hold up in a criminal court (beyond reasonable doubt) ...but it would hold up in a civil court, which has lower standard of proof (preponderance of proof or balance of possibilities).

I think that the strongest piece of evidence, that Wattsup has uncovered so far, is the synchronization of the light (load) with the movement of the bearded man's hand holding the cable.  The probability of these two events being coincident by chance, is very low.

 

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