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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13774778 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15405 on: December 20, 2012, 09:09:48 PM »
 qwekw, "maybe"

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15406 on: December 20, 2012, 09:13:52 PM »
TK's spinning disc is just like Faradays Dynamo.  A large spinning copper or brass type disc is spun by a small motor and with magnets at a 90 degree angle from each other.  The magnets are put in the 4 directions, ie N,S,E,W.  The disc makes high current low voltage.  You can even glue the magnets to the disc and get the same result.  Pretty simple.  I'm sure you can change the high amp/low voltage into a useful product.. Dr. Linndamin made one of these and made a good informative paper on all the different orientations that he tried.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15407 on: December 21, 2012, 12:00:18 PM »
OK, since my equipment is not ready yet, some more theoretical stuff.

According to this very enlightening patent (Сергей В., you're sure this is not Stepanov patent?): METHOD OF PARAMETRIC RESONANCE EXCITATION SWITCH ELECTRICAL OSCILLATIONS AND A DEVICE FOR ITS IMPLEMENTATION

It is all about switching the capacitance (or inductance) in a LC circuit in order to get more energy out than it goes in. The interesting part is that this is done almost the same way as it is done in a Power Factor Correction Device. The main difference in the latter case is that the capacitors are statically switched, whereas in the first case the capacitors are switched dynamically (in dependency of the waveform) by means of thyristors or triacs. The method is called parametric resonance. The resonance frequency in such a circuit changes constantly.

Wikipedia: »Remarkably, if the parameters vary at roughly twice the natural frequency of the oscillator (defined below), the oscillator phase-locks to the parametric variation and absorbs energy at a rate proportional to the energy it already has. Without a compensating energy-loss mechanism provided by beta, the oscillation amplitude grows exponentially. (This phenomenon is called parametric excitation, parametric resonance or parametric pumping.)«

That means if someone plays around with a (thyristor) switchable Power Factor Correction Device (maybe three-phase) then there is a great likelihood that he will discover a parametric resonance effect by chance.

Oddly, on over 1000 page here I can't find the term »parametric resonance« very often, and if I can find it then it is either not explained in depth or its existence is even denied at all.

So we have the Stepanov device with transformers, capacitors and thyristors. We have the Kapanadze devices with transformers, a bank of capacitors (specially designed for power factor correction) and two heat sinks which each can hold a triac (instead of two thyristors), and we have a patent drawing of a device that shows four thyristors and which is described as

»switching method for excitation of parametric resonance and device for its realization by excitation of parametric resonance of electric oscillations by switching method, reactive electric power is generated

And then we have the Steho AG which also claims to have an electric power amplifier based on a resonant transformer (p. 6, in German) and which actually is the Stepanov device.

And then we have the Steven Mark Toroidal Power Unit which looks suspiciously like coils, capacitors and some switching elements. Since the shape of the coil obviously does not matter, it can be anything fancy with a futuristic look.

Now tell me someone that this all is just a (faked) coincidence. >:(

It is said, that the 2 disc are of steel and brass or maybe each disc is
a double layer of steel and brass and that these discs are connected via a brass wire, that is isolated from the steel shaft.

The toroidal transformer, that is put around  the shaft seems to be
the main motive power source and it is said in the "broken" Russian-German translation
that it uses just 8 Watts of power.

This movie is from a new release from a Russian movie from youtube user Realstrannik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZC5CwCTv4I
Since the above mentioned patent claims a method for generating electric power by changing the capacitance dynamically in a LC circuit and the TK motor consists obviously of a coil and a capacitor which forms a LC circuit (the two discs are the capacitor plates with the coil between) then what could happen when the capacitance of this capacitor changes somehow dynamically due to its rotation? Could it perhaps generate energy?

Just asking ...

P.S.: Since today the Mayan-Calendar ends (but the world seems to be still there yet), this would be a very good day for someone to tell me that this theory finally works. :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15407 on: December 21, 2012, 12:00:18 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15408 on: December 21, 2012, 12:37:58 PM »
Now tell me someone that this all is just a (faked) coincidence. >:(
Hasn't Wattsup already shown that TK faked his 2004 demo with external power delivery ?

Kapanadze-Motor.jpg (30.06 kB, 640x218)
"Two capacitor plates, made of brass and steel"
What video is this snapshot from?

Where do you see capacitor plates made out of steel ?   I see only 2 yellowish brass disks.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15409 on: December 21, 2012, 01:12:04 PM »
Hasn't Wattsup already shown that TK faked his 2004 demo with external power delivery ?

What video is this snapshot from?

Where do you see capacitor plates made out of steel ?   I see only 2 yellowish brass disks.
All what was shown was a blurry video but no conclusive fake.

Snapshot video link is in the hartiberlin quote. The narrator talks about »Messing und Stahl« (brass and steel) in German language.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15410 on: December 21, 2012, 01:23:56 PM »
OK, since my equipment is not ready yet, some more theoretical stuff.

According to this very enlightening patent (Сергей В., you're sure this is not Stepanov patent?): METHOD OF PARAMETRIC RESONANCE EXCITATION SWITCH ELECTRICAL OSCILLATIONS AND A DEVICE FOR ITS IMPLEMENTATION

It is all about switching the capacitance (or inductance) in a LC circuit in order to get more energy out than it goes in. The interesting part is that this is done almost the same way as it is done in a Power Factor Correction Device. The main difference in the latter case is that the capacitors are statically switched, whereas in the first case the capacitors are switched dynamically (in dependency of the waveform) by means of thyristors or triacs. The method is called parametric resonance. The resonance frequency in such a circuit changes constantly.

Wikipedia: »Remarkably, if the parameters vary at roughly twice the natural frequency of the oscillator (defined below), the oscillator phase-locks to the parametric variation and absorbs energy at a rate proportional to the energy it already has. Without a compensating energy-loss mechanism provided by beta, the oscillation amplitude grows exponentially. (This phenomenon is called parametric excitation, parametric resonance or parametric pumping.)«

That means if someone plays around with a (thyristor) switchable Power Factor Correction Device (maybe three-phase) then there is a great likelihood that he will discover a parametric resonance effect by chance.

Oddly, on over 1000 page here I can't find the term »parametric resonance« very often, and if I can find it then it is either not explained in depth or its existence is even denied at all.

So we have the Stepanov device with transformers, capacitors and thyristors. We have the Kapanadze devices with transformers, a bank of capacitors (specially designed for power factor correction) and two heat sinks which each can hold a triac (instead of two thyristors), and we have a patent drawing of a device that shows four thyristors and which is described as

»switching method for excitation of parametric resonance and device for its realization by excitation of parametric resonance of electric oscillations by switching method, reactive electric power is generated

And then we have the Steho AG which also claims to have an electric power amplifier based on a resonant transformer (p. 6, in German) and which actually is the Stepanov device.

And then we have the Steven Mark Toroidal Power Unit which looks suspiciously like coils, capacitors and some switching elements. Since the shape of the coil obviously does not matter, it can be anything fancy with a futuristic look.

Now tell me someone that this all is just a (faked) coincidence. >:(
Since the above mentioned patent claims a method for generating electric power by changing the capacitance dynamically in a LC circuit and the TK motor consists obviously of a coil and a capacitor which forms a LC circuit (the two discs are the capacitor plates with the coil between) then what could happen when the capacitance of this capacitor changes somehow dynamically due to its rotation? Could it perhaps generate energy?

Just asking ...

P.S.: Since today the Mayan-Calendar ends (but the world seems to be still there yet), this would be a very good day for someone to tell me that this theory finally works. :)

Lets not jump too quickly into another round of fancy theories before looking at how he might have faked this one. Take a close look at the axle bearing 'bell' housings and think how this device might have been driven from a hidden motor underneath using belts.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15411 on: December 21, 2012, 02:39:42 PM »
Lets not jump too quickly into another round of fancy theories before looking at how he might have faked this one. Take a close look at the axle bearing 'bell' housings and think how this device might have been driven from a hidden motor underneath using belts.
Wouldn't it be easier to push on the perimeter of the brass disks with eddy currents?
Appropriately phased coils could be hidden in the thick supports below the pillow blocks (bell housings) or under the bottom of the whole device.

It would explain the 50Hz buzzing sound, too...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15412 on: December 21, 2012, 02:47:38 PM »
Hasn't Wattsup already shown that TK faked his 2004 demo with external power delivery ?
I believe Wattsup only referred to the Green Box video as being faked. NOT the 2004 video.  So far the 2004 video is for real.  so far....  ;D
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15413 on: December 21, 2012, 04:00:19 PM »
 to Zeitmaschine and all

secret of STEHO and Stepanov

Attaching a file with the full description of the principle of resonant power amplifier of Stepanov (STEHO)
you only need to translate into English

This is not thyristors this is diods!!!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15414 on: December 21, 2012, 04:28:30 PM »
I believe Wattsup only referred to the Green Box video as being faked. NOT the 2004 video.  So far the 2004 video is for real.  so far....  ;D
Oh. I thought that the TK's 2004 video was the "green box" video.
For future reference, what are the links to both videos ?

P.S.
I am sure that the social psychologists on this forum will write "if TK faked one demo, then he faked them all".
I will refrain from elaborating on this issue as I am more often wrong than correct about psychology and sociology.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15415 on: December 21, 2012, 04:29:48 PM »
Wouldn't it be easier to push on the perimeter of the brass disks with eddy currents?
Appropriately phased coils could be hidden in the thick supports below the pillow blocks (bell housings) or under the bottom of the whole device.

It would explain the 50Hz buzzing sound, too...

Yes, this is a possibility also.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15416 on: December 21, 2012, 04:35:52 PM »
Talking about fakes: What if the Stepanov diode patent is just a fake and the real Stepanov patent is that with thyristors and Stepanov has filed this (his) patent by means of a middleman so he holds the patent but no one can find it because no one can connect it with his name?

 ::)

secret of STEHO and Stepanov

Attaching a file with the full description of the principle of resonant power amplifier of Stepanov (STEHO)
you only need to translate into English
This does not add up. If the Stepanov patent (principle of work) is in public domain then what is the point in not showing all the parts in plain view in the video but hiding them? And where are all the working replicas?

Have I missed a video?
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15417 on: December 21, 2012, 06:18:02 PM »
About the 2004 video, technically speaking it is not a valid demo because they never lifted the TKc and the tin can off the table. Temo did lift the transformer slightly. Also, the TK coil was obviously bolted to the table so it and the tin can could never move from the fixed position. How is that proven. Well, when Temo lifted the transformer, I had already shown in past posts that the diode plate was pushing on the 6 turn coil enough to see the thick 6 turn coil bend and press onto the TK coil itself. So with all that stress pushing on the TK coil assembly that is mounted on that U bracket, why didn't the TK coil move even 1/8th of an inch. hehehe

They could have had a wire going inside the tin can from under the table and through the wood up into the tin can. And yes, given the Green Box has now been found out, this only provides a higher multiplication factor to the fake side then the real side for all other devices. Lights go on without spark should put the lid on that one as well.

The point here is there is no way you will find 100% proof but even so, when all the various devices have their own quirks that provide ample room for trickery, you can rest assured that TK took that route.

@Happy and @Sergey77 and @all

Just for you guys I wanted to explore the Aq2 with the same criteria knowing there is now a tick to find. Here is TK logic at work in the Aq2. It cannot be any more simple then this but I still need some length of explanation because you really have to move around with the logic. hehehe

The guy that showed us the ground bolt did it all for us. The best way to hide something is in open view. They had to willingly show you the bolt and shield wire so they could remove any possible question of that shield being tricked. How can it be faked if they are openly and willing showing me the bolt? Nice try.

So........I have looked again at the shielded wire and am now convinced TK had a wire conductor inside the shield. It is a thin wire but it could be a special HV high tensile wire that can carry enough volts into the system, and what is contained in the plexi-box is there to simply transform that input energy, whatever type they choose to supply, into the driving force of the heater element. There is nothing about TK that says he will only trick you with a 220vac at 60Hz feed supply. He can use 220vac or more at 5kHz or higher or he can use 5000volts at 60Hz. It does not matter how he pushes in his juice, as long as there is a high probability he had used the method.

So in the Aq2, the only obvious connecting point is what is coming from the ground bolt. But we all know that having just a ground bolt in a block of cement is not anywhere near an adequate ground. We already saw in the Green Box when they pushed in real juice using the water pipe that had a return line to AC neutral that all the lights went on. And when he used the radiator to replace the AC neutral, the output stunk. That is with a radiator that was dug into the ground and had salt water poured onto it, still gave a weak bulb light. So imagine having just a shield wire on a bolt on a slab of cement how badly that heater element should light up. But the heater element is well driven and elements are red hot. So the ground bolt cannot be the only method of grounding, meaning that there HAS TO BE an AC neutral conductor going to the bolt from under the slab. We do not see the conductor arriving at the slab but is has to be there. So if the neutral is there, then the hot side of the power feed can just as easily be there as well. But how to transfer a neutral and a hot feed into a shield wire that has a hidden central conductor when the connection point is a single bolt  on a slab of cement?

See images below.

So I looked very carefully at the ground bolt have discovered some inconsistencies.

First of all everyone already knows how to attach a conductor to a nut and bolt. In 99% of cases you will use two washers that will not turn when the bolt it tightened and the conductor will be secured between the two washers. But in this case there is only a bolt and one washer.

The when you look at the shield wire near the bolt, they have soldered the shield to make the length of shield thicker. Why would you go to the trouble of soldering the shield when all you needed is two washers to hold the shield in place?

But then you look closer and realize the thick soldered shield is not going between the bolt and washer or even between the washer and the cement block. It is going straight inside the hole where the bolt is and they have just created the illusion that the shield is secured by the bolt, but it is not.

Then let's look at the side of the shield that is secured inside the plexi-box. There we can see that the grey shield wire coming from the cement bolt is connected to a copper shield wire that heads into the device and we see that same copper shield then goes between the end of the TKc and the triple transformer. So then why do we see a HV wire also at the ground connection point and we can see it is obviously not connected to the two shield wires. It is connected separately. Why? Because the grey shield wire also has a thin wire coming out and it is connected to that HV wire also going inside the device.

Now, I have confirmed that the HV wire color is the same as the HV wire going to the HV side of the spark gap. So either the wire is going directly to the spark gap or it is going somewhere  else inside the device before it goes to the spark gap. Beyond this point, all these other questions do not matter as to how he transformed the input energy to produce the output energy on the heater and we do not need to answer any more questions then to show probable method of trickery knowing that this is not the first time TK used tricks.

So again, for me there is enough probable and real proof to show TK tricked the Aq2. Someone would have to have an identical heater element and a variac to see how much juice is required to produce the same visual red illumination of the elements. But is it not really necessary cause this is how he did it.

It just remains to say that the @a.king21 gang that was there did a very poor job of investigating the device. They should have insisted to remove the bolt from the cement slab to see how it is connected or not. The should have known to use a better camera. When you are spending serious money paying TK and traveling to see that demo, and then totally fail on the due diligence, then, you had no business doing this type of business in the first place. Sorry to say that but it is the reality.

wattsup

PS: Happy 21st of December, 2012.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15418 on: December 21, 2012, 07:04:21 PM »
So........I have looked again at the shielded wire and am now convinced TK had a wire conductor inside the shield. It is a thin wire but it could be a special HV high tensile wire that can carry enough volts into the system,
That certainly qualifies as "so simple that you'll laugh".  Are you laughing?

BTW: The inner wire does not have to be special.  Even a regular enameled copper wire insulation can withstand 3000V

@Wattsup,
Could you replicate those faking principles and document them on HiRes video?  Pictures are worth a thousand words...and videos even more.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15419 on: December 21, 2012, 07:30:15 PM »
@ Wotsup,

In all probability the braid hides the 'live' conductor. It would be reasonable to assume that TK realised that he needed to up his game and come up with a better trick, so improved his technology by using a high voltage supply, so as to minimise the size of the 'live' conductor in order to conceal it within that braid. It is very strange that the investigating team failed to look carefully at the bolt. Once again, the video shows us tantalising clues of fakery which have been presented in your post.

PS. Wotsup with you and your dates!  ;)

 

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