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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13963174 times)

Offline Khwartz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15180 on: December 03, 2012, 12:10:38 AM »
OK? Where is it? ;)

Sorry, I forget the link on the possible said TK effect by Lasersaber in YouTube:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=plcp&v=Zt5zulKQ1XE

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15181 on: December 03, 2012, 03:40:25 AM »
But electrons are not energy. Electric charge is not energy.
Then a charged capacitor is not a vessel that has energy stored in it? ???

That's just a result of meticulous experimenting.  That ratio of experiment to conjecture in that thread is much higher than in this one.
My experiments got stuck because of the problem to switch off a sine wave right at its peak. Hence

a) what electronic part should be used and
b) what to use as reference pulse to trigger this electronic part?

When the electronic part would be a thyristor then this thyristor goes into conductive state when it is triggered somewhere at the beginning or in the middle of the wave and it goes off on zero-crossing. This is how a dimmer works. Unfortunately it works the wrong way round.

When the electronic part would be a transistor then this transistor does not remain latched in the on-state and that makes the triggering not exactly simpler. Moreover I can't see something that looks like a transistor in the Stepanov device, these are either diodes or thyristors. But a diode can't switch off a voltage unless the polarity of the voltage changes anyway.

Whether transistor or thyristor, a pulse is needed which can trigger the electronic switch with the right timing so the half wave's second half is cut away. What could this be? Since Kapanadze (and also Stepanov) apparently enjoys working with three-phase current, then what about the other two phases? The one phase's cut-off is triggered by one or even both of the remaining two phases, because the other two combined phases are in a 90 degrees phase shift in relation to the first one (see illustration below), so they could be used to cut the first phase. This works for all three phases in a circle like manner. :)

Kapanadze has no difficulty getting 3 phase.
Hence some new theory: When the thyristors of a three-phase lighting regulator (dimmer) are wired in a wrong way then could it perhaps happen that instead of regulating the lights (down) it will produce an OU effect? And could it further be that TK discovered this effect accidentally this way?

If so, then this would mean that a single-phase device is more difficult to build than a three-phase device, because a single-phase device must create a (90 degree) phase shift artificially in order to get the right timing for the electronic switch (or switches). And maybe this is also the reason for the tendency of Kapanadze and Stepanov to play around with three-phase current willingly. Thus could it be - to add one more conjecture - that the transformer in the 2004 video is the part that creates the phase shift so a second coil/choke/transformer hidden in the round box can generate the back voltage due to the phase-shifted cut-off?

Now someone tell me that this is all nonsense one more time. ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15182 on: December 03, 2012, 07:58:42 AM »
Then a charged capacitor is not a vessel that has energy stored in it? ???
Charged capacitor represents energy because of the additional factor - voltage.
Without the voltage, charge alone would not amount to any energy any more than a bottle full of water would.

Conversely, a pressurized water bottle  - does amount to energy.
Here the pressure is analogous to voltage and the volume of water is analogous to charge...

My experiments got stuck because of the problem to switch off a sine wave right at its peak. Hence
a) what electronic part should be used and
b) what to use as reference pulse to trigger this electronic part?
a) An N-channel Power MOSFET is the easiest to use Semiconductor Opening Switch (SOS)
b) To detect the peak of the voltage waveform (e.g. a sinewave) a voltage comparator can be used (e.g. the venerable LM339).
Alternatively the same signal that generated the waveform can be used as the trigger if you have access to it. A related signal can be used, too.

When the electronic part would be a thyristor then this thyristor goes into conductive state when it is triggered somewhere at the beginning or in the middle of the wave and it goes off on zero-crossing. This is how a dimmer works. Unfortunately it works the wrong way round.
Yes, a thyristor (or a triac) is a Semiconductor Closing Switch (SCS) and you need an opening switch (SOS)
Anyway, thyristors have large voltage drops (2V) between their anode and cathode when in the ON state.
MOSFETs have only millivolts of voltage drop between their source and drain, hence they waste less power.

When the electronic part would be a transistor then this transistor does not remain latched in the on-state and that makes the triggering not exactly simpler.
Simplicity depends on the perception of the engineer.

Moreover I can't see something that looks like a transistor in the Stepanov device, these are either diodes or thyristors.
Appearances can be deceiving. For example the russian KT926A transistor looks like a thyristor.

But a diode can't switch off a voltage unless the polarity of the voltage changes anyway.
Not exactly. Some diodes conduct for a while after the polarity of the voltage across them reverses.
If this reverse conduction time is equal to the 1/4 of the sinewave's period then the diode will switch off when the sinewave is at its peak.

Whether transistor or thyristor,
Thyristor is not a SOS so out of that list, only the transistor remains as an opening switch that can be used to "cut away" (a MOSFET or IGBT preferably).

,a pulse is needed which can trigger the electronic switch with the right timing so the half wave's second half is cut away. What could this be?
For example an inverting comparator with large hysteresis.  Such comparator will trigger at the peak and remain triggered until the sinewave falls back to zero (or reverses polarity).

Since Kapanadze (and also Stepanov) apparently enjoys working with three-phase current, then what about the other two phases?
Yes, if you have access to other phases then they can be used as the trigger signal, too.

The one phase's cut-off is triggered by one or even both of the remaining two phases, because the other two combined phases are in a 90 degrees phase shift in relation to the first one (see illustration below), so they could be used to cut the first phase. This works for all three phases in a circle like manner. :)
Yes, that would almost work, except that you'd need an inverted 90deg. phase shift (effectively a 270deg. shift) to switch OFF at the peak of a sinewave.

If so, then this would mean that a single-phase device is more difficult to build than a three-phase device, because a single-phase device must create a (90 degree) phase shift artificially in order to get the right timing for the electronic switch (or switches).
Yes, if you consider three transistors and inverters easier than one transistor and an inverting comparator with hysteresis.

P.S.
By "inverter" I mean this.

Offline Сергей В.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15183 on: December 03, 2012, 09:04:45 AM »
@Zeitmaschine when you last time holded soldering iron in your hand??  ;D What is a problem to you to make a Peak-Detector and to turn on some switches on peaks of waveforms !!

Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi Just kidding !!  :D Don't be angry !! :D

Here is complete schematic of precise peak detector. In my opinion Stepanov have used thyristors in his OU-Genarator. Interesting thing he also have disappeared like many OU inventors, after publishing his videos world wide !! I hope he is still alive.

ps.Where did you grabbed these Stepanov photos ? From his house ?  :D Hi, Hi Just kidding !!  :D Don't be angry !! :D
 

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« Reply #15184 on: December 03, 2012, 09:30:59 AM »
Gift from Inogda. He is our TPU guy !!

ANIMATED GIFS !! WATCH IN TOTAL COMMANDER PIC VIEWER !!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15185 on: December 03, 2012, 02:21:29 PM »

 ???
So, how you explain electrons multiplication during Townsend discharge? It is electrons avalanche reaction. Simple spark discharge.
On the beginning you have a few electrons, at the end electrons constitute current in kA range.
I call it "electron chain reaction", similarily to nuclear chain reaction.
This is a OU right in front of our noses.
Regards,
Pix

Can happen in the iron??

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15186 on: December 03, 2012, 04:39:58 PM »
Hey Guys.... found something out....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W99FOWtIz8s&list=PLDC8CACE3378D93F8&index=1

I think the kapanaze device is actually the don smith device.... he he - aint that interesting?!?!
He created much higher watts out.... its the same thing, I mean it looks really much alike the the Kapagen....

In another video...(from tesla thech conference.  they say that the infomation on how to build it is availiabe.... I checked the site.... but its down... aint that funny....

However guys.... Tell me your thoughts....

The secret behind all of this will soooooon be revealed....

hoaah!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15187 on: December 03, 2012, 04:44:07 PM »
  If we couple an input tank to an output tank by using a capacitor connected in series between the two tanks what is happening in the input tank starts to happen in the output tank.  We feed the primary oscillator parametrically to ring it up into higher and higher harmonics.  This action is duplicated in the second tank.  If we start to dampen the oscillations in the second tank by pulling voltage from the capacitor into a load or pulling induced voltage from the inductance  of the second tank into a load the primary oscillations still keep on pumping.  This is how radio transmission works.  We capacitavely couple to a resonant circuit tuned to store small wattage input and ring up the receiver tank to usable amounts of energy.  We know that the columb force is responsible for attracting the electrons in a capacitor and holding them there against a non-conductive wall.  This would be the same force that holds an electron in an orbital.  Is each and every atom a tiny capacitor with stored energy?  Is the photoelectric effect just an imposition of an electric field that cancels the atomic electric field and gives us the binding energy of the electron?  This of course is not as powerful as giving us the binding energy of the neuclides but alot more enviromentally friendly IMHO.  Remember a lecture in which the professor stated that the electron velocity of a 1s electron is the equivalent of 1 milliamp.  The columb force is negated by the electron mass velocity.  If the braking radiation of a free high velocity electron creates multiple photons of the same frequency that allowed for the orginal ionization event to transpire then we have photon multiplication.  This is radiant energy.  If this happens on the interface of a very large piece of metal a large percentage of electrons freed and accelerated will bombard the metal causing current to flow in a circuit attached to the metal.  In my experience what happens is that the metal oxidizes after a very brief time.  The electrons no longer penetrate the oxidation film and a space charge begins to build around the anode.  These dead electrons begin to diffuse the binding energy gained in the ionization event and the whole system stops working.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15188 on: December 03, 2012, 05:19:00 PM »

Can happen in the iron??
I had consider for a while that EM/EM O.U. could be a kind of "venturi effect" taking the exceeding energy in the "Dirac plenum"; direct analogu too of the hydraulic stuff.

What do you think?

Cheers, Khwartz.

Offline Khwartz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15189 on: December 03, 2012, 05:44:05 PM »
Hi sparks.

Just want to thanks you for the ver accurate and clear explainations you post here.

Regards, Khwartz.

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« Reply #15190 on: December 03, 2012, 09:45:29 PM »
Hey Guys.... found something out....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W99FOWtIz8s&list=PLDC8CACE3378D93F8&index=1

I think the kapanaze device is actually the don smith device.... he he - aint that interesting?!?!
He created much higher watts out.... its the same thing, I mean it looks really much alike the the Kapagen....

In another video...(from tesla thech conference.  they say that the infomation on how to build it is availiabe.... I checked the site.... but its down... aint that funny....

However guys.... Tell me your thoughts....

The secret behind all of this will soooooon be revealed....

hoaah!

Now that's some new info right there !
But joke aside, you ask for thoughts.
Smith might have had something but he either couldn't come up with a real working device and just discussed how far he got
or he deliberately confused people, so they couldn't replicate it (30kW device and so forth) and actually present it..
Many things Smith points out are true and then right next to it he talks about things that are utterly wrong as if someone just told him to spread the wrong info
while him not even being aware that they wouldn't work.
Not to mention his repeated lying about his devices 'being mass-produced right now in russia' ( that was 10+ years ago) and his
evasions when people publicly offer him money to buy his devices telling them to talk to his salesperson and so forth.
That didn't really help his credibility...

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« Reply #15191 on: December 03, 2012, 10:13:31 PM »

Can happen in the iron??
I don't know.
But during spark discharge in gas,extra  electrons enter the circuit from outside, from enviroment.Spark gap is in fact a tiny accelerator.In a free space speed of electron is relativistic, always.There are no stationary ,still electrons.Electric field in the gap between cathode and anode only giudes those electrons in preferred direction.
In my opinion, a simple spark gap discharge is an OU event and we should pay more attention to that.
Regards,
Pix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15192 on: December 03, 2012, 11:19:22 PM »
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how to disable the magnetic on off switch on a induction hob?

Thanks

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15193 on: December 04, 2012, 05:31:08 AM »
 :)
« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 03:20:26 PM by dllabarre »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15194 on: December 04, 2012, 07:32:52 AM »


I don't remember anyone posting this information before or I just missed it.


During the Aquarium 1 full length video, around 19-20 minute mark, someone switches off 1 bank of lights and it appears that the other bank of lights got brighter.
It could have been a camera issue but I don't think so.  You'll have to judge for yourself.


DonL

Wrong! You have to watch the bulbs hanging among trees. They do not flicker when massive load is switched contrary to what I see in my house when my 2,5kW electric kettle is switched off. With a bulb bank it has to be camera adjusting to light level.