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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14953922 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15150 on: December 01, 2012, 11:58:37 AM »
The simplest way to generate a sawtooth wave would be a capacitor which is connected to a voltage source.
No, voltage across a capacitor charged from a voltage source does not change linearly with time - it changes reciprocally exponentially.

Also, what does this graph represent?
a) Voltage across the capacitor
b) Voltage across the coil
c) Voltage across the switch
d) Current through capacitor
e) Current through the coil
f) Current through the switch

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15151 on: December 01, 2012, 02:29:54 PM »
No, voltage across a capacitor charged from a voltage source does not change linearly with time - it changes reciprocally exponentially.

Also, what does this graph represent?
a) Voltage across the capacitor
b) Voltage across the coil
c) Voltage across the switch
d) Current through capacitor
e) Current through the coil
f) Current through the switch

I think he wanted to depict the shape of the waveform created at/by a function generator or anything comparable that would basically
create the original signal to be amplified.
What you say is correct and also the voltage/time and current/time measured at an inductor would have an exponential shape if connected to a voltage source.
In this example it would be a changing AC voltage feeding the coils.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15152 on: December 01, 2012, 03:55:23 PM »
No, voltage across a capacitor charged from a voltage source does not change linearly with time - it changes reciprocally exponentially.
It does not matter how it charges (could be also a curve). The main thing is that it goes off instantaneously. The sharper the switch-off slope the higher the back voltage generated by the coil. Whether this back voltage does anything useful afterwards or not is a different matter.

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Also, what does this graph represent?
a) Voltage across the capacitor
b) Voltage across the coil
c) Voltage across the switch
d) Current through capacitor
e) Current through the coil
f) Current through the switch
g) Voltage across the unloaded power source like this graph. Of course a connected coil (b) will distort the graph heavily but that's exactly the general idea of this.

For the same reason a TV's flyback does not work with a sine wave input. It needs sharp declining slopes in order to generate high voltage. But if it generates high voltage then this high voltage will easily spark to ground in contrast to the low voltage at the primary side, even if the high voltage is DC, hence no high frequency is involved.

Ever touched the high voltage connector of a fully charged picture tube of a completely disconnected TV? ;D

A picture tube behaves like a high voltage capacitor. The coating on the outside is negative, the coating on the inside (connector) is positive. Since positive means a lack of electrons and ground (or someone's body) is a source of electrons a current will flow from ground to the positive inside of the charged tube capacitor although there is no closed circuit anywhere.

Therefore the task would be: How to get a (sawtooth) wave with a sharp switch-off slope out of a sine wave by means of a minimum of electronic components in order to create a lack of electrons so a current of electrons can flow through the ground connection towards the positive voltage spike? The less components the better, because we want to keep it simple. :)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15153 on: December 01, 2012, 05:44:38 PM »

For the same reason a TV's flyback does not work with a sine wave input. It needs sharp declining slopes in order to generate high voltage. But if it generates high voltage then this high voltage will easily spark to ground in contrast to the low voltage at the primary side, even if the high voltage is DC, hence no high frequency is involved.

So you are saying that you attribute the fact that a TV flyback outputs high voltage to the slope of the signal rather than to the high winding ratio ?

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Therefore the task would be: How to get a (sawtooth) wave with a sharp switch-off slope out of a sine wave by means of a minimum of electronic components in order to create a lack of electrons so a current of electrons can flow through the ground connection towards the positive voltage spike? The less components the better, because we want to keep it simple.

A sawtooth could be generated by adding several sinewaves (Fourier) if you really wanna go that way with a sinewave as a start.
There is easier methods.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15154 on: December 01, 2012, 05:51:46 PM »

MAGNETIC FLUX COMPRESSION
FOR HIGH VOLTAGE PULSE APPLICATIONS
by
JUAN CARLOS HERNANDEZ LLAMBES, B.S.E.E., M.S.E.E.


DOES IT RING THE BELL?

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MAGNETIC FLUX COMPRESSION
FOR HIGH VOLTAGE PULSE APPLICATIONS
by
JUAN CARLOS HERNANDEZ LLAMBES, B.S.E.E., M.S.E.E.
A DISSERTATION
IN
ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING




or download it from


http://repositories.tdl.org/ttu-ir/bitstream/handle/2346/11961/31295019801231.pdf?sequence=1








 Similarities  with TK coil I have saved this article and did not analyze it till few minutes ago.
OK.................. I know it there was  about 2 years ago  I briefly covered it in scientific group session- they did not pay attention to it at that time.
Have to, to bring it on the table again


got to read it true.

 
Look at chapter from this article:
IV. COMPACT FCG DRIVEN INDUCTIVE ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM
!!!!


WESLEY



PS: click on the picture and  in lower right corner  click on it again  it will bring it to  large size
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15155 on: December 01, 2012, 05:52:01 PM »
Maybe some simple experiments should be delved into to investigate the properties of adding a 'GND' and/or 'ANT' to a circuit.  Once it is really understood if these have advantages, then the next step would be on how to simulate those advantages without actually using them.  ;)

As of late, I think any circuitry, above ground is possibly an ANT, when the circuit has an earth GND.

Having an ANT, doesnt necessarily mean that the circuit is just receiving power from it. It may be just used as a tuned(to the circuit operation) and a connection to the big capacitor in the sky. And the other end of that capacitor is GND.

Mags

TH Moray was the Expert on Radiant. Folks here already know his amazing (and tragic) story I expect.
But there is nothing lost in rereading from a master.

THE SEA OF ENERGY IN WHICH THE
EARTH FLOATS
http://www.free-energy-devices.com/P26.pdf

Just some excerpts:

CAPTURE OF ENERGY BY RESONANCE

Oscillating Discharge — When any elastic substance is subjected to strain and then set free, one of two things may happen. The substance may slowly recover from the strain and gradually attain its natural state, or the elastic recoil may carry it past its position of equilibrium, and cause it to execute a series of oscillations; something of the same sort may also occur when an electrified condenser is discharged. In ordinary language there may be a continuous flow of electricity in one direction till the discharge is completed, or an oscillating discharge may occur-that is, the first flow may be succeeded by a back-rush, as if the first discharge had overrun itself and something like recoil had set in. The condenser thus becomes more or less charged again in the opposite sense, and a second discharge occurs, accompanied by a second back-rush, the oscillation going on till all the energy is either radiated or used up in heating the conductors.

However in the case of RE the oscillations go on forever because of the actions of the universe. It is known that high frequency currents may be classified as to their oscillating characteristics, i.e. damped or undamped. The energy from the Universe being of both types, depending on conditions beyond the scope of this writing, we have a back rush effect as explained before in the RE device.

The purpose of the capacitors in the RE circuit is to act in their capacity of stored energy discharged. If the resistance is low, an oscillatory discharge takes place: The discharge and recharge on the opposite plates continues in the ordinary sense until the energy which was originally stored is dissipated. In the case of the RE device a different effect is established because the oscillations from the Universe, trapped by the RE valve, continue to enter the circuit as waves of the sea beat upon the shore. With negligible resistance in the device, no energy is lost in heat and the oscillations continue. ....

In this case the current starts from zero and rises to a maximum; it then falls to zero and becomes reversed, after which it passes through a series of oscillations. The discharge therefore does not take place in a single flow from one capacitor to the other, but a back-rush sets in, and a series of currents, or oscillations, occur alternately in opposite directions.

The existence of induction, however, and electromagnetic actions between bodies situated at a distance from each other, lead us to look upon the medium around the conductors as playing a very important part in the development of the phenomena. It is, in fact, the storehouse of the energy.

Upon this basis Maxwell founded his theory of electricity and magnetism ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15156 on: December 01, 2012, 08:02:42 PM »
So you are saying that you attribute the fact that a TV flyback outputs high voltage to the slope of the signal rather than to the high winding ratio ?
Yes, because the high voltage output of a flyback is actually generated during switch-off of the primary coil. Having a high winding ratio is no mistake nevertheless. When the magnetic field collapses because the primary coil is switched off then this collapsing magnetic field causes not only a voltage spike in the primary coil but also in the secondary coil. But since the secondary coil has more turns than the primary coil the voltage spike in the secondary coil is even higher than in the primary coil.

A sawtooth could be generated by adding several sinewaves (Fourier) if you really wanna go that way with a sinewave as a start.
There is easier methods.
No problem with easy methods. And that means TK does not use an external high voltage source (like a flyback) to create an exotic magnetic or electric field by means of an exotic copper coil which then wondrously generates an additional current, but rather the coil, which is connected somehow between the inverter and the lamps, generates the high voltage by itself so the electrons in the ground connection can oscillate at 50Hz.

It would be interesting to see what happens when the ground connection of the TK device is cut while the device is still running. Would there be high voltage on the side of the device like in a charged picture tube?

And btw it makes me sick that the solution to this has to be a simple one but my brain is too complex to figure it out. >:(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15157 on: December 01, 2012, 10:59:22 PM »
@Wesley,
Thanks for bringing "magnetic flux compressor" on the spot light again.It was always on the back of my head.
What we need is a non-explosive driven magnetic flux compressor.Nearly everything on the web is about explosively driven ones.
What about magnetic pulse sharpening coaxial ferrite line?I was thinking a lot about this one.
http://www.eecs.kumamoto-u.ac.jp/~katsuki/lectures/pp_eng/no12.pdf[/url]
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-5432.pdf
http://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/pac97/papers/pdf/7P094.PDF
http://www.google.pl/patents/US4707619?printsec=abstract&hl=pl#v=onepage&q&f=false
What about magnetic pulse, generated by a spark dishcharge?Due to electrons avalanche ( multiplying factor) at the end of spark discharge we have a current in kA range.
Regards,
Pix
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15158 on: December 01, 2012, 11:52:06 PM »
It does not matter how it charges (could be also a curve). The main thing is that it goes off instantaneously. The sharper the switch-off slope the higher the back voltage generated by the coil.
It's ambiguous what "goes off" - voltage or current flowing through the coil.
I can agree that the sharper the current switch-off slope... or the higher the di/dt, the higher the voltage appearing across the coil.

g) Voltage across the unloaded power source like this graph.
If the power source is unloaded then what is creating the black spikes on this graph?
Polarity of the voltage spikes is wrong for a coil's flyback pulse caused by high di/dt.

Ever touched the high voltage connector of a fully charged picture tube of a completely disconnected TV? ;D
Yes. Fortunately it was a long time ago and it was a black&white TV.

Therefore the task would be: How to get a (sawtooth) wave with a sharp switch-off slope out of a sine wave by means of a minimum of electronic components in order to create a lack of electrons so a current of electrons can flow through the ground connection towards the positive voltage spike? The less components the better, because we want to keep it simple. :)
I cannot answer this question precisely without knowing the peak power you want to have in that flyback spike.
With Si MOSFETs you can easily get down to 50ns falling edge at 1kA/ns and 100V.
Faster Semiconductor Opening Switches (SOS) than Si MOSFETs are SiC MOSFETs and SR Diodes and DSR Diodes.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15159 on: December 02, 2012, 12:54:27 AM »
It's ambiguous what "goes off" - voltage or current flowing through the coil.
Whatever goes off when the wire of a coil is disconnected from something like a battery etc. by means of a mechanical switch.

If the power source is unloaded then what is creating the black spikes on this graph?
The graph is borrowed from Wikipedia so I think it denotes the wavelength.

But to have something to think about: What strange effects could happen (in a coil) if a sine wave goes off right at its peak, so each sine half wave would be cut into a quarter wave. The left side is still there, the right side is missing. Hmmm ...


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« Reply #15160 on: December 02, 2012, 02:07:08 AM »
The graph is borrowed from Wikipedia so I think it denotes the wavelength.
Ah, so the black vertical lines are not a part of the waveform at all.  They do not denote voltage spikes.

Whatever goes off when the wire of a coil is disconnected from something like a battery etc. by means of a mechanical switch.
That would be the current flowing through the coil's winding.
The coil will rebel to such an interruption attempt and will generate high voltage of such polarity and magnitude, that the current through the coil will keep flowing unchanged in the same direction.

But to have something to think about: What strange effects could happen (in a coil) if a sine wave goes off right at its peak, so each sine half wave would be cut into a quarter wave. The left side is still there, the right side is missing. Hmmm ...
Exactly this situation is described in this post.
Note, that the lower blue trace (L2 current) represents 3/4 cycle of a sinewave, that is abruptly terminated at its peak.
Using this method, it is possible to generate a flyback pulse in the MegaWatt range, albeit only for several nanoseconds.

The interesting property of such short pulses happening at low repetition frequencies, is that they contain almost all the frequencies up to 1/t, according to Mr. Fourier.

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« Reply #15161 on: December 02, 2012, 04:25:16 AM »
The coil will rebel to such an interruption attempt and will generate high voltage of such polarity and magnitude, that the current through the coil will keep flowing unchanged in the same direction.
A rebelling coil could  be a good thing. Better than a coil which sits there and does nothing. :D

But since the generated high voltage alternates at 50 Hz (I think it should be) then the positive high voltage peak will attract electrons from ground whereas the negative high voltage peak should return the electrons to the ground.

So isn't this in essence that what the TK device does? Namely make electrons oscillate in a ground connection?

Exactly this situation is described in this post.
Looks quite complicated. What would Tesla say to MOSFET, IGBT, GaAs BJT, DSR diodes etc. ?? ::)

Apropos: The page count is 60 and still no working Dally replica? How could this be?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15162 on: December 02, 2012, 10:37:00 AM »
Zeitmaschine our planet several billion years flying through Universe and we still don't know why and how ?? Don't mention other Stellar objects!
Let's don't asking more questions but trying to answer on some of them OK ??  :D

On this Tiger2007 video we can see on oscillograph pure  Over Unity. And we know how to make it. Problem is how to take power of contour without quenching generation. The principle is one on present level of our knowleadge. Excitation LF contour with sharp mono-polar or unidirectional DC pulses. We can see how amplitude of Sin wave rise from 200V to 400V when LC contour was excited with HF pulses on positive half-wave cycle. Questions about slope of the pulses, duration, duty cycle of HV DC Nano-Pulses, resonant frequency of LC contour (in my oppinion must be 50 or 60 Hz), grounding and best variant for taking off power are still open.

Tiger2007 video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um7J_5FwVq0

Everything must be experimentally verified as Tesla said otherwise all our theories are trash without practical use !!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15163 on: December 02, 2012, 11:51:22 AM »
I am wondering, why McFreey's analysis is rejected, without any rationale given, while the proven wrong approaches are perpetuated.
Perhaps because it is obvious, that the avalanche multiplication of relativistic electrons (or positrons) requires nuclear reactions in which one beta particle causes the release of at least two beta particles.

...and such multiplying beta nuclear reactions do not exist, do they ?

Without them, the number of released betas cannot grow in McFreey 's  scheme :(.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15164 on: December 02, 2012, 12:13:02 PM »
On this Tiger2007 video we can see on oscillograph pure  Over Unity. And we know how to make it. Problem is how to take power of contour without quenching generation. ... grounding and best variant for taking off power are still open.

The problem is not new and solution approaches to that problem do exist (and that for more than 15 years). I have mentioned it about half a dozen times in this thread.
On that graph it is not possible to see overunity, because you could only see that if he would display voltage AND current together having the right phase difference.