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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 11643268 times)

Offline jeanna

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #150 on: July 03, 2009, 11:23:07 PM »
I have found some information on that ominous word ПЭШЛО (Pelsho) in the coil specifications.
It is a name for enamelled wire in silk threads isolation.
Maybe that is of importance or better said does anyone think the usage of silk for the isolation is important?
I admit to being the one wanting to try the difference between silk and cotton in the Stubblefield effort.

In the research to determine what kind of cloth Stubblefield used, I was led to litz wire.

These days litz wire is enameled wire covered with something else, but at one time it was enameled wire covered with silk. I cannot site references. -- just my own memory.---

BTW
Tesla went into a lot of explanation describing how to keep the high frequency sparks from sparking between the turns of the coils, and spending their energy.

He describes the solution to be:
gutta percha (=latex rubber) coated wire
He also describes that it is best when it is wound under the surface of boiled-out oil, then not disturbed because the oil would probably dissolve the gutta, but if left in one place, it would remain useful for his purposes.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #151 on: July 04, 2009, 12:29:23 AM »
Just curious, has anyone here built a Tesla coil?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #152 on: July 04, 2009, 12:36:05 AM »
@ Bill, hey you are not alone with the electronics going over your head. I am out of depth there as well. My specialty is magnetic motors and hydrogen.
@everyone
Sadly I believe we have another Mylow situation here. I sent the links to the youtube videos to a friend of mine (who has the electronic qualifications) who sent it to some other friends (yes a friend of a friend who we will call mr X)
Mr X pointed out several things in the video which gave a very plausable explanation of where the energy came from. I know seveal of you will dispute this...and good reason to. However it has raised enough doubt in my mind that I would want to see the device in a controlled enviroment.
The theory is they are harvesting EMF from power lines located nearby. I always remeber seeing an artist in England who use to place fluro tubes in the ground under power lines and they use to light up.
I have attached a file worth reading writen by MR x (who I believe is Russian)
Kind Regards
Mark




Shown above is a well-known trick in the whole territory of exUSSR. Power companies know about it and fight with every possible means. To make it work you only need about 10-15 meters of electric wire and some transformator to level it to 220 volts 6 amperes (household standard in this part  of the world).
 
Since all power-lines are AC (thanks to Nikola Tesla :-) ) any power line in the world can serve as a source of "free" electricity. Georgia (where this movie was taken) is not exeption to this rule.
 
Now take a look at this
 
 
and this
 
 
Strangely enough, the inventor tries to keep his "invention" closer to the street, where the power lines are (see the movie #1)
 
Most part of the electric power wire runs parallel to the street (i.e. parallel to the street power line as the source of AC electro-magnetic field)
 
 
 
In general the picture is clear. The complicated transformators, capacitors etc. do not add much to the picture. Proper earthing is needed to ensure that excessive power will be dumped to the ground and nobody will get killed.
 
Deliberately or not, he just "re-invented" the well-known method of stealing electricity from industrial power lines without physical connection to the wires. From lawyers point of view, it is a footage of a crime and it is very unwise for this man to distribute and advertize his "invention".
 
Also in that part of his interview when he speaks Russian, he says that he is an  architect by his education and this invention is his amateur work. He complains that Georgian government just bury his invention. He also said that Minister of Energy of Georgia wanted him to repeat this experiment in the lab but he has no money to go there and he does not want it as it is clearly shown  that it works like everyone just saw.
 
this is it. There is nothing else much to say.
 
 
 
If you want to learn more on EMF radiation from power lines have a look here
http://www.emfs.info/Sources+of+EMFs/Overhead+power+lines/Calculating/Direction/
 
 
 








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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #153 on: July 04, 2009, 12:47:37 AM »
Markdansie, thank you very much... Stealing energy from the power company and it's a crime, I love it! I can absolutely agree with you and Mr X, but, it being a crime is another thing. If you fart in my general direction and I smell it, am I stealing it from you?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #154 on: July 04, 2009, 01:36:40 AM »
Justas just sent me his translation of the first PDF posted by Stefan.  I am sure this is way better and more accurate than the one I did using the translator program.  Here it is from Justas:  (Thank you Justas)

Ok, here is the translation:

The device of extract of energy from environment
Behind authorship of Tariela Kapanadze.
So. The demonstration film in which show of the given device is photographed goes to networks. The author asserts that is based on operations of Nikoly Tesla. And an essence of operation of its installation «on a resonance between первичкой and вторичкой». All device he names the resonator. Asserts that something has found, but basically it on the basis of operations of Nikoly Tesla.
The author

The author asserts that is the closest to solution Andrey Melnichenko has approached, but to its candidate solution will come yet soon. Капанадзе as the motto repeats «Hold a resonance!». ó«íÚѼ it is all information carrying though any advantage. The rest should be extracted from the patent and video. Here the author:

Here we will consider video. The patent we will review separately.
What do we see on a film? In the beginning assiduously dig in the heat sink and water. Thus, they have organised grounding, superficial, not especially qualitative, but grounding. After that the platform for demonstrating will be organised, the desktop is taken out, on it some instruments are installed. From which it is possible to conclude complete structure of demonstration installation of Kapanadze.
1. The first and key device is so-called "resonator", a green box with the artful device on пилонах.
2. As far as I understand it is the inverter, DC/AC the converter on power of an order of 4 kw. Most possibly amateur fulfilment. Instead of industrial (modern inverters have other style of fulfilment).
3. The rectifier. Self-made in a box which, probably, charge car battery, in a regular variant of usage.
4. Car battery, 60 AH capacity, not new.
5. Load. Five lamps in ceramic cartridges, presumable power of 1 kw. It is indirectly confirmed, I received a photo of such lamp.

So this is it with structure of installation.
Further there is a following – installation is connected to qualitative grounding (a network of cold water supply), include. Lights up the lamps then disconnects car battery, and loading continues to power the device in an independent mode. Contužinous work of installation is not very long, possibly, the inverter works under maximum or overloaded mode. During demonstration measurement are taken by the standard devices, which frequency of work limits to 400 Hz at the best are case.

Lots of wires in the installation and lack of shooting details do not allow to make out wiring (see that have wanted). We can only state the there is no additional obvious power supply is connected to a table. It is possible to hope that this really working device.
During the demonstration the switching from qualitative grounding to poor-quality grounding was made after that the device output has considerably decreased.
On an outer part of the device, except the artful coil on smth (probably paper towel roll), the is also a discharger:
On a rough estimate the gap is calculated for 2-3 kV, not more.
On the top part of the case radiators on which similar two keys (?) are taken out, radiators are cooled by the additional fan (probably an operating mode of transistors not tender).
And actually

And actually there is nothing to add, the rest in patent discussion.

Regards,
Justas

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #155 on: July 04, 2009, 01:39:03 AM »


Mr X pointed out several things in the video which gave a very plausable explanation of where the energy came from. I know seveal of you will dispute this...and good reason to. However it has raised enough doubt in my mind that I would want to see the device in a controlled enviroment.
The theory is they are harvesting EMF from power lines located nearby. I always remeber seeing an artist in England who use to place fluro tubes in the ground under power lines and they use to light up.
I have attached a file worth reading writen by MR x (who I believe is Russian)
Kind Regards
Mark
EXACTLY what I have been thinking about for the last couple of days !

back at the turn of the last century, when Nikola Tesla built his energy transmitter, there was no electrical grid as it exists today, for his wireless transmission of electricity to work, he naturally needed an energy source .

today, with all the hi-tension powerlines strung all over the place and carrying as much as 120Kv, it's possible that all Kapanadze needs is the receiver now, and that device does look like Tesla's design.

more research should be done, but it could be that all Kapanadze may have done is invent the electric equivalent of Napster   :D


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #156 on: July 04, 2009, 01:43:24 AM »
@markdansie

you are totatly wrong with your assumption,
that this is stealing power from a 220 Volts 50 Hz grid !

This just does not technically work with this small setup
at these shown power levels !

Your friend Mr.X did not watch the videos carefully ..


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #157 on: July 04, 2009, 01:54:54 AM »
@ Mark:

I am glad you spoke to your friend about this and shared what he had to say.  Since most of us on here have been "Mylow'd" before, I think it is good to be aware.

Having said this, I agree with Stefan.  Not because of the technical issues involved as I have already admitted they are beyond me at this time, but because this fellow received some patents on this.  I know this is not evidence by itself, but I would like to think that their patent office would have someone there that would look at this and be able to say.."Hey, this guy is just tapping into the grid emissions."

I know folks have received patents on things that do not work but, this is the exception and usually not the rule.  I made no claims on the validity of this when I posted the video and I still don't, but, with all of the good minds here I am sure we can figure it out one way or the other.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, as I said, it is good to be aware.

Bill

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2009, 02:09:25 AM »
Well, I just had a look at the DOC File Mr. X has put together.
Here are the 3 most important pics attached.

This is total nonsense and never could extract 5 KWatts with this setup.

If the used water pipe would be so hot that there could be extracted
5 KWatts, the guy attaching the cable would already be dead !

Also the first picture with the red copper cable  makes no sense,
as the copper wire is more conductive than the load resistor and
Kapanadze only used ONE ground connection, not 2 in the video.

Also lighting up fluorescent bulbs via 50 Hz EMF radiation is
totally different than to light up 5 KWatts of incandescent bulbs.

Fl tubes light up because of the high voltage differential  field potials under
380 KVolts lines, but not because of high amperage currents...

But here we have high amperage current in incandescent filament bulbs !

The only theory I can accept is the following, that Kapanadze is able to
tap the ground return currents from 50 Hz ground currents somehow.

Every grounded house has failure and bad isolation currents going back via the
ground to the power stations.

The ground is always very conductive , only around a few Ohms resistance.

Therefore all different 50 Hz currents flow through the earth back to power
stations.

If he succeeded to tune his LC circuits to these 50 Hz ground circuits
or an harmonic of it and just excites his LC circuits with a harmonic
of 50 Hz via a sparkgap discharge pulse, he might be able to put his
LC-tranks into resonance with these flowing 50 Hz ground currents
and this way "attract" these 50 Hz waves into his circuit and use the resonance
transformers to extract the resonance energy into his  incandescent bulb loads.

But the way Mr. X has shown it will never work with the devices shown in the videos
to extract 5 KWatts of power from these small power lines.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #159 on: July 04, 2009, 02:15:41 AM »
@All,

use a NON Grounded scope and put just the scope head
pin to your
waterpipe or heating pipe in your house without using the negative ground
connector of the scope head.

What will you see on your scope ?

Big 50 or 60 Hz sine waves from the ground "failure currents" going back to
the power station !

This is what you can tap if you have the right circuit and this is
what Kapanadze is doing !

Or maybe he is also tapping other higher frequency currents that
are still in the ground.

This is probably much more related to the things Nathan Stubblefield did with his AC extracting earth batteries
via "special coils" in the ground.

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« Reply #160 on: July 04, 2009, 02:21:04 AM »


What will you see on your scope ?

Big 50 or 60 Hz sine waves from the ground "failure currents" going back to
the power station !

This is what you can tap if you have the right circuit and this is
what Kapanadze is doing !


You need to do this via a displacement current resonance method,
then you only need 1 wire as Kapanadze is doing it.

He pulls the current back and forth in resonance with the earth currents through his
transformer via his big black wire coming from the water pipe.

This way he transform the resonating displacement current AC via his
big transformer coils to the bulb loads and thus have a matching
impedance.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #161 on: July 04, 2009, 02:22:03 AM »
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Contužinous work of installation is not very long, possibly, the inverter works under maximum or overloaded mode.

I am sorry to see this. I noticed it and wondered.

It seems to only run the lights without the battery as long as it ran with it.

something is missing in this.

I was sure the black box was an ignition coil, because that would do it.
That is what this device needs to fire up from a low voltage source.
It needs to use the earth battery as a low voltage generating device.
Then, this would be a device that will not ever turn off.

Hmm.

My computer is getting too hot. I can't keep typing... sorry. I will check back later...

Thank you justas. Your contribution is sooo valuable.

jeanna

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« Reply #162 on: July 04, 2009, 02:38:43 AM »


I was sure the black box was an ignition coil,

jeanna

No Jeanna,
the black box is a power supply with 220 Volts AC in and
12 Volts DC out.

This way he uses some of the output power to generate
enough 12 Volt power to supply the blue 12 Volts to 220 Volts inverter,
so he can disconnect the 12 Volts battery !

All very easy if you watch the video carefully.

In the newer video with the acrylic case he
has it very much enhanced all, so he can just start the circuit
with just ONE 9 Volt battery and then run it in selfrun mode.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #163 on: July 04, 2009, 02:40:52 AM »
Here are the 1 KWatts lamps he is using.

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