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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13763587 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14985 on: November 16, 2012, 11:44:21 PM »
@ Aking, you said the aquarium 2 was light right ??  thanks  Do you think the core is air or copper, you can pm me if you want
My guess is air. With hv insulation inside ie polystyrene. If you put ferrite in it could be a way to reduce the frequency. But radiant energy won't like copper. It'll create a short. Just an opinion, I've not experimented with it - except I know ordinary cable won't work.
 J L Naudin. I know he messed up big time with his meters. I don't think he got it to self run.
You need a true rms meter - even then nothing can really measure radiant.
Look guys : listen up.
My intention is still to get the technology to the West. Then we do a proper patent and disclose. But only with proper legal safeguards. That's why I am trying to keep TK out of jail. I speak Russian, I talk to him directly when he is well. He is out of it right now with the typical ex Soviet disease which afflicts most men in that part of the world.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14986 on: November 16, 2012, 11:47:28 PM »
Oh I've just realised..... I got to the 1,000 page first lol...................
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14987 on: November 17, 2012, 12:16:26 AM »
Thanks for your comments and answers to my questions. The poly dialectric around the inner conductor of the coax cable used for his air coil is only acting as a HV insulation. Its not needed unless the inner conductor is at HV potential. A frequency generator can pulse an inductive circuit to produce very high voltage levels, so how do you know for sure that he is not producing HV from a low voltage level frequency generator by switching an inductive component, such as a coil of wire? All Bedini SG based devices produce HV which is used to charge batteries, so I cannot see why TK should not do this if his devices are in fact based on Bedini tech as you say they are. This HV is viewed by some people as radiant energy and to other people the catalyst for the manifestation of radiant energy - take your pick.

Bedini's use of the term COP infinity only relates to a system where the user does not pay for the source of power. In his book FE Generation, he clearly shows on page 39 an example of a cop infinity system where a solar cell array is supplying the input power. He notes beside it that the operator pays nothing for this input. He also states that this system example is less that 100% efficient. It can therefore be seen from his example that a system COP of infinity can be had without looping back.
If you read on he states you can loop it. Here's one example:-

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14987 on: November 17, 2012, 12:16:26 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14988 on: November 17, 2012, 02:41:54 AM »
მიესალმები idzaza !

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14989 on: November 17, 2012, 02:54:01 AM »
@hartiberlin I think AKing21 have deserved the Prize as the 1st poster at page 1000. The Prize can be OU Generator chip so he don't need to recharge his mobile phone anymore !!  :D

@all
How to lighting-up 100Watt light bulb to full brightness, pulsing DC 12volt oscillator, see schematics and watch Vladimiro Mazzilli video!!
It is variant of Tesla Fireball circuit i have posted couple of pages before !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24bM1AmmgXU

ps. Video has been removed from YouTube but our friend Mikmur save it and uploaded on his channel.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14990 on: November 17, 2012, 03:05:07 AM »
After 1000 pages maybe it is time to take stock. What is the greatest amount of "verifiable" extra energy  "measured" as output from
a device built as a result of this thread ? Is there any ? The "can't measure radiant" claim is claptrap, if work is done it can be measured.
If the work done cannot be determined then what would such a device do. I mean if radiant cannot be measured then how can it be
seen to do work. If work is done then the energy dissipated can be measured.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14991 on: November 17, 2012, 03:34:58 AM »
After 1000 pages maybe it is time to take stock. What is the greatest amount of "verifiable" extra energy  "measured" as output
Output of this thread is headache, measured in number of pills taken. :(

If radiant energy is infinite, as a logical consequence, it cannot be measured. Only the amount of energy taken and dissipated from the infinite radiant energy pool can be measured.

BTW: Any thoughts related to my idea of a one-coil transformer with a one-way magnetic flux? ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14992 on: November 17, 2012, 08:09:24 AM »
@Sergey V.:
I can certainly vouch for the left 2/3 of that circuit you posted. I don't quite get the point of the second flyback transformer though; seems like a lot of trouble just to light up a lightbulb.   8)

I also use a very similar circuit in my wireless power transmission system.

A display of the HV coming from the flyback driver circuit above, including the demonstration of adding a little capacitance to the output:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU

This same driver circuit, as I said, can also be used with very little modification as a wireless power transmitter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnwDh4CsD-c



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14993 on: November 17, 2012, 10:24:52 AM »
To my way of thinking the most promising Tech is the transmutation of the copper or steel "fuel" rods as in some of the devices. If Tariel is for real and there is simple a secret it must have something to do with that in my opinion. To me it seems like a promising Technology, especially if the fuel material can still be used for other things afterwards.

Can someone give a summary of what is involved "as known or thought" in doing that particular thing. It wouldn't be OU as such but seriously cheap energy or even free, if the source is known and where the energy comes from identified then there is no OU in reality. But that doesn't matter. We want cheap or free energy in large amounts that we control.

Any chance of a summary of the principals involved in the transmutation thingy from someone in the know ? I've read it can be done with steel as well as copper, any other things ? What frequencies are used and how are they utilized ? How does the process produce electrical energy ? Just in general if possible.

I still have to admit there are drawbacks with needing fuel rods and using HV.

Thanks
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14993 on: November 17, 2012, 10:24:52 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14994 on: November 17, 2012, 10:53:16 AM »
@ zeitsmachine, i hear you, what if you put 60 hz carrier wave, add high frequency on it, with all the impulses, will it give you more energy ?  Superheterodyne receiver

This is a question which bother me too but I must reformulate it slightly : if we can build power inverter of 1000W output but with high or very high frequency , and then modulate output to the sinewave 50Hz would that behave like ordinary 50Hz ? I mean - can we use that to power resistance load ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14995 on: November 17, 2012, 11:23:40 AM »
1000 pages reached and there will be certainly 2000 pages reached in no time without significant results.

Sure there were like about 10 faked devices like from Teofilius and other morons who felt like fooling people and a couple of hundred set-ups
with some lamp glowing somehow.

As long as output evaluations are based on non-quantitative, mere assumptions such as "lamp at full brightness" not even mentioning
input parameters (what for ?, right ? :D ) and power measurements are done with cheap meters without RMS functionality there will
presumably be another 30-40 (almost alike) pulsed HV transformer set-ups with 'impressive' sparks presented with subjective OU claims.
Proper calorimetry measurements would be an alternative. And of course looping, the king of proofs :)

There was SR193. Impossible to say if it was a fake or not, he chose to just vanish.
Hundreds of people tried to replicate his set-up with no success.

There was Naudin's Kapagen, promising at first. While he generally is leaning towards a more scientific approach, even him
was deceived by some lamps shining somehow and once he realized the proper measurement procedure had to admit (and that is what real scientists
normally do) that he was below unity and just sparked his input to ground at 0.9ish C.O.P. .
Did people learn from his mistakes? No ...

There was Wesley's team (and sure still is). They were on to something, but if i understood that correctly decided to improve their
design to make it more safe. Fair enough and hopefully they will one day be able to come out with a nice device.

A funny thing to observe following this thread from the beginning is, that it became that large, that issues that had been discussed ad nauseum on for example
pages 60-80 will be discussed again on pages 650-670 as if they were never discussed, but maybe it is demanded too much to read 15000 posts to get a picture
of what has been going on.
 
Time to think about a change in approach? Farmhand is considering one for example. Transmutation has actually been pretty well discussed in this thread with
links to documents posted as well. Hopefully forums search can help you dig it up or someone can really sum it up.
Back to Bedini? Well, good luck.
TK revealing the real , exact method? What kept him to do so until now, will continue to keep him ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14996 on: November 17, 2012, 12:13:38 PM »
After 1000 pages maybe it is time to take stock. What is the greatest amount of "verifiable" extra energy  "measured" as output from a device built as a result of this thread ? Is there any ?
Yes, in this thread, only the Yoke Device produced verifiable excess energy starting from Post# 8101 of this thread.
It had a well established 5W input limit and an output of 150W (albeit non-credibly measured).

Several people tried to replicate it but failed due to unclear tunning instructions from the inventors (the STAAAR team)

Despite being successful, the Yoke device was abandoned (no further work on it up till now) after the authors had gone to Georgia or Lithuania and got distracted with TK's tubular sparking coil devices, citing health concerns without taking any countermeasures.

P.S.
Wesley had promised to pursue the Yoke Device further but there was not any info from him for 5 months, now.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14997 on: November 17, 2012, 12:53:47 PM »
Finally, this topic has reached page 1000! I am sure I'll follow it for the another 1000 pages if you all will continue to discuss and interpret Kapanadze's work through the prism of current electromagnetic theory. The solution is not in current concepts of magnetism and electricity. Seek to understand magnetism as Tesla understood in his time, not as we know right now. And do not forget something essential, we live in Earth's magnetic field as a fish in water, if you understand what I want to suggest directly and indirectly!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14998 on: November 17, 2012, 02:05:12 PM »
Time to think about a change in approach?
Simple as that: Find the basic physical principle that TK device is based upon.

If one does not know that there is a tape covered with magnetic particles, then he will never figure out how a tape recorder works by just looking at motors, gear wheels, transistors and wires.

Hence TK's basic principle must be a very simple one (similar to an audiotape), because he can play around with it in several completely different setups and it works. Like some tape recorders all looking completely different but they also work.

Therefore what about a transformer which primary and secondary coils do not exist at the same time but rather each of them in a different point in time? Sounds nice. But does it work? ??? ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14999 on: November 17, 2012, 02:16:56 PM »
1000 pages reached and there will be certainly 2000 pages reached in no time without significant results.

Sure there were like about 10 faked devices like from Teofilius and other morons who felt like fooling people and a couple of hundred set-ups
with some lamp glowing somehow.

As long as output evaluations are based on non-quantitative, mere assumptions such as "lamp at full brightness" not even mentioning
input parameters (what for ?, right ? :D ) and power measurements are done with cheap meters without RMS functionality there will
presumably be another 30-40 (almost alike) pulsed HV transformer set-ups with 'impressive' sparks presented with subjective OU claims.
Proper calorimetry measurements would be an alternative. And of course looping, the king of proofs :)

There was SR193. Impossible to say if it was a fake or not, he chose to just vanish.
Hundreds of people tried to replicate his set-up with no success.

There was Naudin's Kapagen, promising at first. While he generally is leaning towards a more scientific approach, even him
was deceived by some lamps shining somehow and once he realized the proper measurement procedure had to admit (and that is what real scientists
normally do) that he was below unity and just sparked his input to ground at 0.9ish C.O.P. .
Did people learn from his mistakes? No ...

There was Wesley's team (and sure still is). They were on to something, but if i understood that correctly decided to improve their
design to make it more safe. Fair enough and hopefully they will one day be able to come out with a nice device.

A funny thing to observe following this thread from the beginning is, that it became that large, that issues that had been discussed ad nauseum on for example
pages 60-80 will be discussed again on pages 650-670 as if they were never discussed, but maybe it is demanded too much to read 15000 posts to get a picture
of what has been going on.
 
Time to think about a change in approach? Farmhand is considering one for example. Transmutation has actually been pretty well discussed in this thread with
links to documents posted as well. Hopefully forums search can help you dig it up or someone can really sum it up.
Back to Bedini? Well, good luck.
TK revealing the real , exact method? What kept him to do so until now, will continue to keep him ...

About Naudin kapagen, read de pdf, it's not the same experience, it looks like a radio receiver now in refuge de sarenne, they are drawings in the pdf i didn't see anywhere.

 

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