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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13206414 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14880 on: November 11, 2012, 12:35:16 AM »
The four diodes are in parallel. There are two connected by the top copper strip. That's where one side of the secondary iron wire goes to that copper strip (left). Then there are two more iron wires that go from the copper strip to the two other diodes at their top pins.
I'm not sure about that. Maybe my graphics program does not serve me well, but I can see a long wire coming from the transformer's secondary (left) that goes below the copper strip to diode No. 4 (should be insulated because it touches diode No. 2) and a second wire that goes form the copper strip (which connects diode No. 1 and No. 2) to diode No. 3 and a wire (marked with a circle) that seems also connected to the transformers secondary (right). Except these two wires (marked white and blue) I can't see any other wires on top of the diode plate. Hence this leads to a very strange connection method of these four diodes.

On the other hand, if the diodes No. 1, 2 and 3 are connected in parallel (top and bottom) and diode No. 4 is connected as single diode then this would equal a total of only two diodes effective. And as a strange coincidence in the Stepanov patent there are only two diodes indicated.

Hence could it be that three paralleled diodes are connected in parallel to the transformer's secondary (like Stepanov's choke)? But how to get OU out of a (half wave) short-circuit secondary? Furthermore I can't see a connection going anywhere from the the three connected diodes top pins. ???

Any ideas are welcome ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14881 on: November 11, 2012, 12:55:05 AM »
Wattsup, Radiant energy does not necessarily have anything to do with High voltage spikes. When I turn on my radiant heater it emits radiant energy which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with HV spikes. Radiant energy is energy that is radiated out of a system in all directions. "radiation" the HV spikes people call radiant energy are just HV spikes,
they remain in the system that they were created in. Most HV spikes talked about here are caused by the release of energy from the magnetic field of coils, which is energy from the supply, and is emf not back emf as well. These spikes never leave the system that created them, unless they are captured by an unconnected circuit then it might be radiant energy if the receiving circuit is not in an inductive relationship with the sending circuit.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14882 on: November 11, 2012, 10:40:47 AM »
I have always viewed this thread as a "make work" project for posters.  lol

What I do know from experience is that the majority, I would even say the vast majority, of free energy experimenters do not understand how coils work and where the voltage spikes come from.  You end up with a "cult of 'radiant energy'" where people mistakenly equate voltage spikes generated by a coil with 'radiant energy.'  Bedini has been using this falsehood to create a buzz about everything he does.

A.king21 is just one in a very very long line of free energy experimenters that believe that they are working with 'radiant energy' when they have coils in their circuits and observe voltage spikes.  They create an imaginary belief system around the false ideas of 'radiant energy' and 'cold electricity.'  There is no such thing as 'cold electricity' it's just silly to even use the term.  But I am fully aware that many experimenters around here use that term in all seriousness.

Here is a statement to ponder:  The reason a coil might generate a voltage spike is dependent on the load on the coil.

Now, I am willing to bet that this concept has never even entered the minds of the majority of people on this thread (I don't read it so I am just guessing), and the majority of the people on this thread don't really understand what I just said.

There is an implicit challenge here to all of you Tariel Kapanadze fans:  If you want to play with these circuits and understand how they work, and understand what you are actually looking at when you probe them with your oscilloscope probe, then you have to understand how coils work.

I know a lot of you will be dismissive of learning the 'classical' explanation for how a coil works.  But that's kind of an oxymoron, how can you be dismissive of something if you don't even understand what you are supposed to be dismissing?

The truth is that the conventional understanding of how a coil works will explain all of the voltage spikes and everything.  To your shock and surprise, what you thought was 'unconventional' in your circuits will turn out to all be conventional - if you can get to the level of understanding where you actually understand how a coil works.

Perhaps if you pool your thoughts together you will get it.  Not to pick on A.king21 at all, but the problem if people that think like him dominate the thread and throw around all of the 'radiant energy' catch phrases, you guys will be spinning your wheels and this thread will grow to 2000, 3000, or even 5000 pages and you will still be spinning your wheels.

So where do the voltage spikes come from?  In an ideal world you all would understand that and not even give it a second thought.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14882 on: November 11, 2012, 10:40:47 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14883 on: November 11, 2012, 02:11:11 PM »
Terminology.
 
By radiant energy I mean pulsing the circuit on and off. The faster the better. The more amps the better.
This causes a 220v circuit to produce (say) 5 kv spikes. These spikes then have to be controlled as if they were high voltage. That's my big breakthrough and contribution.
Now if you look at TK's circuits with this information you will find it all makes sense.
In Tesla's time many operatives were killed when they switched on the mains power station supplies. They worked with ohms law, Faraday's law and all the other laws. These did not supply the answer.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14884 on: November 11, 2012, 02:34:38 PM »
Good weapon against 'operatives' then, right?
But joke aside. I don't consider it unusual that a man gets killed who operates the switch and stands too close. In those times the operators have not followed
protection procedures, if they even already existed. You wouldn't find alike switches in modern facilities for a reason.
The voltage rises at the first moments of circuit closed and thus the "gap distance" to discharge to ground majorly increases in that moment and when the voltage reaches
100 kV, it  can easily kill a man 1m next to the insufficiently isolated switch circuit, but just in that moment of course, because the voltage curve steeply falls after that.
What electric law does not supply the answer to that? None.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14885 on: November 11, 2012, 03:01:47 PM »
Good weapon against 'operatives' then, right?
But joke aside. I don't consider it unusual that a man gets killed who operates the switch and stands too close. In those times the operators have not followed
protection procedures, if they even already existed. You wouldn't find alike switches in modern facilities for a reason.
The voltage rises at the first moments of circuit closed and thus the "gap distance" to discharge to ground majorly increases in that moment and when the voltage reaches
100 kV, it  can easily kill a man 1m next to the insufficiently isolated switch circuit, but just in that moment of course, because the voltage curve steeply falls after that.
What electric law does not supply the answer to that? None.

Show me the law that states 220 volts can become 100kv on switch on.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14886 on: November 11, 2012, 03:14:25 PM »
Mile high: Cold electricity is a fact wether you lie or not. Do the experiments.
Cold electricity conditions both a capacitor and a battery. Cold electricity charged
dc capacitors self charge to the point of producing meaningful power.
I've done the experiments so I know.
Maybe we're getting too close.
If you don't stop I'll show the Tesla, Bedini, Magnacoaster, circuits where they use the same
on-off pulsing principles.
Oh, and of course - Kapanadze's patents.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14887 on: November 11, 2012, 03:25:02 PM »

Show me the law that states 220 volts can become 100kv on switch on.

Just for you : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday%27s_law_of_induction

2400 Volt General Electric Generator -> 115.000 Volt power grid
Now imagine flipping that switch and standing next to it.
Tip: Visit such power plant if you ever get the chance to, it's really interesting.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14888 on: November 11, 2012, 03:34:01 PM »
Just for you : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday%27s_law_of_induction

2400 Volt General Electric Generator -> 115.000 Volt power grid
Now imagine flipping that switch and standing next to it.
Tip: Visit such power plant if you ever get the chance to, it's really interesting.
Doesn't prove a thing. (I would not stand next to it because of radiant energy.)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #14889 on: November 11, 2012, 04:39:30 PM »
I have always viewed this thread as a "make work" project for posters.  lol

What I do know from experience is that the majority, I would even say the vast majority, of free energy experimenters do not understand how coils work and where the voltage spikes come from.  You end up with a "cult of 'radiant energy'" where people mistakenly equate voltage spikes generated by a coil with 'radiant energy.'  Bedini has been using this falsehood to create a buzz about everything he does.

A.king21 is just one in a very very long line of free energy experimenters that believe that they are working with 'radiant energy' when they have coils in their circuits and observe voltage spikes.  They create an imaginary belief system around the false ideas of 'radiant energy' and 'cold electricity.'  There is no such thing as 'cold electricity' it's just silly to even use the term.  But I am fully aware that many experimenters around here use that term in all seriousness.

Here is a statement to ponder:  The reason a coil might generate a voltage spike is dependent on the load on the coil.

Now, I am willing to bet that this concept has never even entered the minds of the majority of people on this thread (I don't read it so I am just guessing), and the majority of the people on this thread don't really understand what I just said.

There is an implicit challenge here to all of you Tariel Kapanadze fans:  If you want to play with these circuits and understand how they work, and understand what you are actually looking at when you probe them with your oscilloscope probe, then you have to understand how coils work.

I know a lot of you will be dismissive of learning the 'classical' explanation for how a coil works.  But that's kind of an oxymoron, how can you be dismissive of something if you don't even understand what you are supposed to be dismissing?

The truth is that the conventional understanding of how a coil works will explain all of the voltage spikes and everything.  To your shock and surprise, what you thought was 'unconventional' in your circuits will turn out to all be conventional - if you can get to the level of understanding where you actually understand how a coil works.

Perhaps if you pool your thoughts together you will get it.  Not to pick on A.king21 at all, but the problem if people that think like him dominate the thread and throw around all of the 'radiant energy' catch phrases, you guys will be spinning your wheels and this thread will grow to 2000, 3000, or even 5000 pages and you will still be spinning your wheels.

So where do the voltage spikes come from?  In an ideal world you all would understand that and not even give it a second thought.

WISE MAN aaaaa ?? Suck all knowleadge from universe and come here to learn igonrants and fakers aaaa ??

And what is really amazing you know all of electricity. Хм !! Nikola Tesla in 83 years age said : I am 83 years now and i still don't know What electricity is ?

But you have appeared here with "OFFICIAL WISDOM OF ELECTRICITY" and you giving a lessons to people which have made many thousands experiments but not on OFFICIAL IGNORANCE WAY !!

Who had dicovered Impulse and Pulse technique? Who had descovere Radiant Electricitry ?? Maybe "Doctors" of science which never in their poor lifes haven't taken soldering iron in their hands and try to repeat a REAL TESLA SCIENCE EXPERIMENTS and his patents. O they don't need it. They have OFFICIAL DOCTORS STATUS and many "scientific" publications in prestige "scientific letters" and many of them POLITICAL NOBEL PRIZES. And to don't forget many Millions bucks in their pockets, big warm houses, big limos full with many gallons of petrol, new whores every night and many more sweets in their poor and misery lifes.

What about our planet. What about humankind.?? The world is on the eadge of Total Destruction. You don't belive aa ?? Mad man talks rubish aa ??

Did you know for newest NUKE incident in US rocket base in Fort Greely. Reactor wall has been demaged and he was licked Highly Radioactive toxic substances in high atmosphere and ground. Several month before it Nuke Reactor Incident in one of biggest NewYork state reactors. US governement has immidiately stopped 5 reactors in that area. Question is Does Amricans know about it ?? Of course they don't !! Make own conclusions.

Exlplosion on one nuke reactor like Fukushima is enough to destroy all planet. About 400 tons of pure plutonium and 10000 tons of heavy water !!
What Japanese need 400 tons of Plutonium ?? To play a games or to make a rockets against Russians. Make own conclusion !!

Tectonic plates will be cracked on whole lengh and massive Magma erruptions will be come of surface. All volcanos will be waken-up and huge Tsunami Killer Waves will exterminate all which stand on their way. This is very real scenarion coz it had happend long time ago in so called BIG FLOOD 13021 years ago on 2012 when second Earth moon known as Fatta had crashed on Earth and whole civilization in couple of hours had been destroyed about 99% of humankind.

Before you and other "smarties" answer you need to make some experiments like these for example. Well then you have connected all "peaces of electricity" in your minds, come on all Free Energy forums and talk, give all your "WISDOM"  to mankind !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otpP0DeTvGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAeYlUnP7yM
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14890 on: November 11, 2012, 05:44:02 PM »
     The inductance of a transmission line is a continous loss for an ac circuit.  In the water analogy you continously are fighting the inertia of the water.  The only reason for ac transmission was because of the ease of transformation.  dc generators beyond suffering the inefficient commutation process create a continous stress on the insulation system.  Even ac which goes to zero potential every 60th second is limited to 2300 volts.  The turn to turn potential requires insulation systems that are easily comprimised by the slightest defect in the dielectric.  The oil-filled transformers are what allowed ac centralized power grids to grow.  It allowed transmission of millions of volts at very little current.  Obviously we need the voltage and actually only need the voltage over ground to get the work done.  Since the ground appears to be a good conductor it would follow that there are more electrons in the ground than there are lack of electrons.  This would suggest that the Earth carries a net negative charge.  So I would assume that we need a lack of electrons to get current to flow from ground through a load to get some work done.   This would require the power plants to maintain a positive voltage over ground at it's vending sites.  So why are they continously giving us everything in between?  Say at the plants they pump up a capacitor to a couple of million volts positive.  Current would flow from the Earth through the load to the line to the capacitor.  This would fill the capacitor with electrons very quickly.  Now as the electrons are flowing towards the positive void what if they were somehow diverted so they never reached the void?  As they were accelerated by the electric-monople they got shot straight into the ground in a deep manmade cave with lots of cathodes in it before they got captured in the near field of the monopolar capacitor.  Something like Tesla made in NJ.  Otherwise they would start to accumulate around the monopolar capacitor and it's accelerating ability would stop.  Would the fast electrons slowing down in the ground transfer their inertia to the ground electrons and cause the Earth to go more negative and less negative depending on changing the diverting magnetic field configuration?  Would the dc current in the load start to change in intensity at regular intervals allowing for transmission of energy over vast distances using the Earth as a monopolar capacitor plate and conductor all in one.  This changing intensity able to be transformed to safer lower voltage?  In Colorado springs Tesla discovered a ground wave.  Very slow.  Twenty minute frequency.  Riding on this ground wave was the information from distant lightning strikes.  Tesla knew then that the Earth was capable of transmitting current waves.  He then set about creating lightning strikes with a manmade positive cloud driving electrons into the ground.  Practical applications genious.
 
modify:  Tesla also designed a very high voltage DC transformer.  This operated using two coils in the primary.  Like a single phase motor the selfinductance of these coils would differ slightly.  This caused a very fast apparent movement of the magnetic field change within the core of the transformer.  A lot faster than any machine could swing magnets past a coil.  He could take a dc scource run it through the three winding transformer then on to a motorized spark gap.  This would have solved alot of Edison's voltage transformation problems.  Westinghouse didn't like Tesla on that one. 
« Last Edit: November 11, 2012, 07:41:55 PM by sparks »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14891 on: November 11, 2012, 07:15:17 PM »
Terminology.
 
By radiant energy I mean pulsing the circuit on and off. The faster the better. The more amps the better.
This causes a 220v circuit to produce (say) 5 kv spikes. These spikes then have to be controlled as if they were high voltage. That's my big breakthrough and contribution.
Now if you look at TK's circuits with this information you will find it all makes sense.
In Tesla's time many operatives were killed when they switched on the mains power station supplies. They worked with ohms law, Faraday's law and all the other laws. These did not supply the answer.

You say a 220-volt circuit can produce 5 kv spikes.  Just as easily a 10-volt circuit can produce 10 kv spikes or a 0.5-volt circuit can produce 100 kv spikes.  Your enthusiasm for working with these circuits is great but it's not a breakthrough.

I have seen many clips where people state that 'cold electricity' is charging a capacitor but it's not - it's just ordinary electricity in action.  The generic term 'electricity' implies electrical power at any voltage and at any frequency or waveform.  That's a very broad spectrum of forms but it is all fundamentally the same thing - electricity.  To repeat - there is no such thing as 'cold electricity.'

What you want to study for starters is something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RL_circuit

The Wikipedia explanation is actually too technical for beginners so you can also Google "RL circuit" and look around.  My suggestion to you is to spend hours and hours and search around and read and work hard at the research.  Get to the point where you understand how the voltage spike is created and then you will be that much better off and get more out of your experiments.

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If you don't stop I'll show the Tesla, Bedini, Magnacoaster, circuits where they use the same
on-off pulsing principles.

With your new knowledge you will have a chuckle when Bedini talks about the 'radiant energy' from the Bedini motor main coil charging the charge battery.  Magnacoaster is really bad, the guy is a low-life con artist and he still hasn't delivered anything to the gullible people that sent him money.  That's a shame.  He has no clue what he is talking about - I have watched his clips.

Here is a little thought experiment:  Supposing that you have an ideal voltage source of 10 volts.  Look up "ideal voltage source" if you don't know what it means.  Supposing you have an ideal inductor of 1.4 Henries.  An ideal inductor is an inductor with zero resistance in the wire.  You connect the ideal voltage source of 10 volts to the 1.4 Henry inductor.  That's the entire circuit, the ideal inductor connected to the ideal voltage source.  What happens when you do that?  I am willing to bet that many people that are active in this thread are not sure of the answer.  If you do your research and understand where the spikes come from, then you may be motivated to do more research to answer the question posed in the thought experiment.

Good luck.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 02:15:35 AM by MileHigh »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14892 on: November 11, 2012, 07:23:42 PM »
sparks, you are truly wise man.
btw if radiant energy  is made by Faraday induction law then it should be a spike, nothing more ? we should see it also in low voltage circuits ? think about it

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14893 on: November 11, 2012, 07:45:31 PM »
Сергей В.

атомные електростанции не взрываютса, их взрывают хорошие дяденьки, которые и греенпису платят, чтобы поскорее закрыли все атомные електростанции, и человечество осталось на нефтянной игле.

стоит почитать: http://maxpark.com/community/8/content/709303

а между делом и небоскрёбы сносят подземными ядерными взрывами, чтоб веселее жить стало: http://maxpark.com/community/2599/content/772242

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14894 on: November 11, 2012, 09:00:20 PM »
There is an implicit challenge here to all of you Tariel Kapanadze fans: If you want to play with these circuits and understand how they work, and understand what you are actually looking at when you probe them with your oscilloscope probe, then you have to understand how coils work.
I would put this the other way around: No one can claim to understand how coils really work if he does not know for sure how the Tariel Kapanadze device works. This applies also to capacitors.

BTW: Any thoughts yet regarding the strange connections of the four diodes? ::)
« Last Edit: November 11, 2012, 11:58:01 PM by Zeitmaschine »

 

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