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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13191503 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14865 on: November 09, 2012, 05:22:50 PM »
OK. I have pointed out in previous posts how TK did it.
I figured out how because I have contact with the guy.
I am not going to do a schematic. Just go over my posts.
You might also look at the spike generator hidden in plain sight in
Tesla's patents.
We don't have to get to 220v 50hz in one go.
Funny how TK's got a mechanical version - just like Bedini.
The difference is TK camouflages his builds. Uses smoke and mirrors.
Wattsup is going to get there with a bit of luck.
You don't need a massive Bedini board. Just start working with mains.
And take care. It kills.
Tesla worked with mains.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14866 on: November 09, 2012, 06:00:33 PM »
OK. I have pointed out in previous posts how TK did it.
I figured out how because I have contact with the guy.
I am not going to do a schematic. Just go over my posts.
You might also look at the spike generator hidden in plain sight in
Tesla's patents.
We don't have to get to 220v 50hz in one go.
Funny how TK's got a mechanical version - just like Bedini.
The difference is TK camouflages his builds. Uses smoke and mirrors.
Wattsup is going to get there with a bit of luck.
You don't need a massive Bedini board. Just start working with mains.
And take care. It kills.
Tesla worked with mains.

So just to be sure you are understood right.
You are saying that the reason Bedini has not seen massive C.O.P.s with his SG
is due to the fact that he did not loop it, is that correct?
So according to this, the sheer action of looping it, is creating the energy gain and without doing so there is nothing to notice.

Thing is, there are many people, including myself, that did in fact attempt to loop
SGs and there are also people who did in fact use heavy flywheels like you also say
is critical to reach OU with an SG. With no success. In fact some people have dedicated more than a decade to
reach that goal with no success and all imaginable variations to do so. With many thousands of Bedini motors built worldwide.
Why has no-one involved with Bedini stuff ever stumbled across a massive (COP>30+) energy gain
spiking his batteries? This is a question that requires a serious answer.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14867 on: November 09, 2012, 06:29:10 PM »
  How could the efficiency of the below demonstration be improved?  Inductance is the result of a current passing through space and altering the magnetic permeability of that space.  The conductor providing the path of the current finds itself lying in a changing magnetic field.  It produces counteremf. Current flow is impeded so lets get rid of the resistors and replace them with very large capacitors.  Now the voltage of the scource appears on one plate of the capacitor bank appears on the other capacitor plate and onto the solenoid through the solenoid and back to the other side of the scource.  Electrons begin to flow from cathode to anode but can't "kill the dipole" without dielectric failure of the capacitor bank.  At first this current is impeded due to the inductance of the solenoid.  Upon core saturation the impedance drops to just the resistance of the solenoid wire and the capacitor charges depending on rc curve which is almost linear.  Now we have energy stored in the magnetic field of the inductor and the electric field inside the capacitor.  Now open the switch.  The magnetic field surrounding the solenoid is RETURNED to some chatoic state by some power from somewhere.  If the core just stayed at the same magnetic flux density things would be different.  That is why ferrite is out of the question.  They use ferrite for it's retaintance properties not it's ability to respond to ambient field conditions.  The magnetic field flux surrounding the inductor (in this case solenoid) collapses.  Conductors lieing in a changing magnetic field induce voltage.  This induces a voltage that opposes the collapse of the magnetic field.  This counteremf is such that it is the same polarity that charged the capacitor to begin with.  The problem now is that the capacitor has an open leg.  In the demo there was no capacitor so the mag collapse induced an extremely high voltage that overcame the resistors and the resistance of the switch and ionized the air and passed current that further discharged the input scource.  So why not switch your capacitor in parallel with the collapsing magnetic field.  This capacitor now charges up to a higher voltage and q than was supplied by the scource. Simply because of Faraday's law of induction.  The faster the magnetic field change the higher the electro-motive force.  The higher the electomotive force the larger the current through a known resistance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmMFog10D0
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14868 on: November 09, 2012, 06:30:22 PM »
OK. I have pointed out in previous posts how TK did it.
I figured out how because I have contact with the guy.
I am not going to do a schematic. Just go over my posts.
You might also look at the spike generator hidden in plain sight in
Tesla's patents.
We don't have to get to 220v 50hz in one go.
Funny how TK's got a mechanical version - just like Bedini.
The difference is TK camouflages his builds. Uses smoke and mirrors.
Wattsup is going to get there with a bit of luck.
You don't need a massive Bedini board. Just start working with mains.
And take care. It kills.
Tesla worked with mains.

If you know how TK's devices operate, then why not help Wottsup and others and not just leave them to "get there with a bit of luck" as you put it?

I've been over all your posts and there is nothing in detail that helps anyone to replicate any of TK's devices in terms of circuitry and components used.

If you really do have that much inside information about Bedini tech and want to talk technical about how Bedini's SG devices work and can be looped and run at high COP to work in TK's devices , there are a few of us here that are all ears and have had considerable experience in building and testing SG's etc. Otherwise its all pub talk.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14869 on: November 10, 2012, 01:09:44 AM »
The problem with looping radiant energy is that it leaks all over the place.
TK uses extensive shielding to prevent radiant energy loss.
He uses polystyrene, polythene, plexiglass, epoxy resin,
braid, HV cable and finally a very wet earth.
So if you want to loop a Bedini - start with extensive anti-static shielding as outlined
above.
And I am trying to help wattsup.
Every single solid state TK build contains extensive electrostatic shielding.
And don't forget HV cable in the coils.(Or soak them in oil).
Why do you think TK would cover a solder joint with epoxy resin?
You also can't loop direct, because the circuit sees a direct short.
So you have to go via HV coil to coil induction, as in TK's patents. (impedence matched).
If you think it's pub talk, then maybe I should stop posting.
 
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14870 on: November 10, 2012, 01:45:11 AM »
The reason Bedini (and others) can light neons from the top of the battery and the floor
is because of a combination of spilled or leaked electrolyte, sulfated batteries and Voltage Spikes.
Not because of radiant energy. I can do it too, but I don't fool people with the effect. Those are effects of conduction.

The electrolyte is spilled or comes out of the battery in a spray from the bubbling electrolyte, the electrolyte even gets forced out of the caps.
I don't have a sulfated battery with electrolyte on it to demonstrate, but I have a good one that needs cleaning, if the electrolyte is covering
the top of the battery between cells then a voltage can be read from the casing, this drains the battery parasitically. I might be able to
demonstrate the neons and can definitely demonstrate the voltage reading on the outside of the battery casing. Anyone that calls that radiant
energy is mad, misleading or very unobservant.

Radiant energy this and radiant energy that, what a load of bull. Bedini's stuff under unity.
a.king21, You say it is over unity he gives all the info, demonstrate it and prove it. Other wise it is all talk.
The voltage readings on the battery case and the floor are due to conduction of the Voltage spikes through the leaked electrolyte.

Cheers

P.S. It is these little tricks that the unscrupulous money Guru's use to WoW and fool people into giving them money.
Anyone who tries to shed light on the matters is attacked as a troll or Oil company shill, hahahhahha. ridiculous .

The way to clean the leaked electrolyte off the battery is with baking soda and water and a scrubbing brush.
It's called battery maintenance.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14871 on: November 10, 2012, 11:15:29 AM »
The problem with looping radiant energy is that it leaks all over the place.
TK uses extensive shielding to prevent radiant energy loss.
He uses polystyrene, polythene, plexiglass, epoxy resin,
braid, HV cable and finally a very wet earth.
So if you want to loop a Bedini - start with extensive anti-static shielding as outlined
above.
And I am trying to help wattsup.
Every single solid state TK build contains extensive electrostatic shielding.
And don't forget HV cable in the coils.(Or soak them in oil).
Why do you think TK would cover a solder joint with epoxy resin?
You also can't loop direct, because the circuit sees a direct short.
So you have to go via HV coil to coil induction, as in TK's patents. (impedence matched).
If you think it's pub talk, then maybe I should stop posting.

Bedini uses plexiglass as its easy to work, aesthetically pleasing and importantly, non magnetic. He uses resin mainly for security against copying as is used in the electronics industry. Neither offer any barrier to the leakage of radiant energy to my knowledge. Also, since when did the materials you mention become anti-static and where does he use polystyrene and polythene? I have never heard your explanation for the use of these materials mentioned anywhere in the plethora of forum posts and other writings I have read on Bedini Tech. Can you offer a link to the source of this information as I'm sure others would be very interested in seeing this confirmed.

Another point you raised was about how containment of radiant leakage increases COP. TK demonstrates self-runners in his videos, Bedini does not. Bedini has never claimed any of his devices self-run, just that they can have a high COP.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14872 on: November 10, 2012, 02:39:00 PM »
Farmhand:  Voltage spikes= radiant energy.

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« Reply #14873 on: November 10, 2012, 02:42:57 PM »
Farmhand:  Voltage spikes= radiant energy.

Please use a better scope and the max resolution. What do you see , still spike ?  ::)

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« Reply #14874 on: November 10, 2012, 02:56:16 PM »
Wattsup:  There is also a conditioning process to consider.
It took Dave Lawton a month of trying before he replicated Stanley Meyer.
The reason is that the capacitors acquire a nano coating which takes time to appear.
TK sometimes takes several days to get his device to work.
So once you get the pulsing effect, you have to leave the device on for a minimum of 12 hours.

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« Reply #14875 on: November 10, 2012, 05:57:47 PM »
This is obviously not radiant energy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKeIzFabINU

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« Reply #14876 on: November 10, 2012, 06:25:46 PM »
Farmhand:  Voltage spikes= radiant energy.

Only if they are measured outside of the closed circuit, otherwise the energy responsible for them was not radiated, and so therefore couldn't possibly be "radiant" energy because it wasn't radiated.

The video clip in the previous post show the very same effect. It is an effect of conduction not radiation.

Even a neon with one leg held in the hand and the other leg touched to the battery top is an effect of conduction.

Cheers

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« Reply #14877 on: November 10, 2012, 06:40:13 PM »
@all

Guys let's not panic at this stage since we need everyones perspective regardless of what it may be. As long as it is device pertinent.

For radiant energy (RE), yes it is high voltage spikes but the total energy produced is always minimal. I have done it so many times with very impressive sine wave peaks but when all is leveled down by a small load, the total output is very minimal. My personal view is that to produce 500 or 1000 watts of steady continuous output via an RE system would require voltages in the 100kv range that would then be leveled by the load to an RMS value. There is no way that 2004 device was built to withstand such high levels of voltages as we would have seen sparking from all around the device. Also with RE producing such high frequency airborne particles that screw up my computer and everything I did to try and contain it was of no use. If in the tent system they used RE, that whole area would have been hyper charged with particles, so I really do not think that is the way go approach this. Regarding the use of plexiglass, again with the energy levels required for that heater element, I don't think this is the reason. They probably put it in a plexi box to contain the noise and prohibit anyone from getting into the hidden parts of the system. As for the styrofoam, yes it is used in coax cable as a dielectric.

Regarding the diode plate, once Сергей В. posted that schematic, I took time to look again at the diode plate to see if the connections follow the dual series diagram. The damn video is the shits (when have we said that before) but I now have realized what he his doing. I am 99% sure now.

The biggest problem for me was to reconcile the heavy secondary transformer winding compared to why TK was then using those thin wires going from the secondary terminal to the diode plate that did not make any sense knowing that secondary was producing higher amperage levels. Why have such thin wires? But now I see that the wires are not copper but a heavy dark probably iron wire that has no insulation. Without the insulation that wire now becomes a pretty hefty wire capable of handling some good wattage. So then I looked again at the connections to the diode plate.

The problem with looking at video visual vagaries is that you can mentally perform the conception of what you see, then try to put it into a logical format of function. If both do not agree, you keep looking until what you see starts to make sense. But if the person who made the device tells you what you are looking at, you then start realizing that what you see does in fact make sense. So the idea is to get to that level of certainty even though the visual is never good enough to be flat out certain. Anyways, after a good while it finally dawned on me.

The four diodes are in parallel. There are two connected by the top copper strip. That's where one side of the secondary iron wire goes to that copper strip (left). Then there are two more iron wires that go from the copper strip to the two other diodes at their top pins. I can then surmise that the diode bottoms (studs) are all paralleled as well and I know there is a wire from there going to one side of the capacitor.  The other side of the capacitor goes to the tin can and one wire from the secondary also goes directly to the tin can. So the secondary AC neutral heads into the tin can and the AC Hot goes through the plate, a capacitor then to the tin can. The capacitor is in series.

So the four diodes are paralleled, but there is another curiosity. The far right diode has a blue colored insulation while the others are black. I tried to find on the net if there was a standard coding convention for stud diode insulation colors but could not find anything. But if that blue diode is different to the others, then I am thinking it is because it points in the other direction. This would make the diode plate what we know as an Avramenko plug but in this instance there are three diodes pointing one way and one diode pointing the other way probably for flyback return to the secondary that props up the primary side and reduces the primary consumption.

If the output of the inverter showed 0.6 amps consumption at 220 volts would be 132 watts, so each of the three diodes would need to handle around 44 watts each if this was strictly a linear set-up.

So basically if the inverter is reading 0.6 amps, this includes both the AC5 line and the transformer secondary output or DC10 line as a total consumption. The Avremenko plug is only passing half the AC waveform, and, if in that half the device produces enough flyback return, the other diode of the Avremenko plug will send it back into the secondary. This may be what TK refers to a recycling the energy whereas if the diode plate was a standard FWBR, there would be no possibility for any energy return. So this also makes more functional sense.

So I will test this next. If it pans out to better results I will change the mapping diagram accordingly. hehehe

wattsup


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14878 on: November 10, 2012, 09:11:55 PM »
to wattsup The Avramenko plug need only 2 diodes to work. But for high currnet you can put in parallel as many diodes as you wish. For example on this way.
The question is: Where are high amperage wires to bring a high current to Avramenko plug ?

If he used Diffusion type rectifier diodes for DSRD Nano-Pulsing he can masking with easy small ferite transformer under diodes pcb or can put it in the tin-can.
The question is how he was made High Voltage Nano Pulses ?? Using DSRD Pulaser or Step-up transformer ?? His sparks were not a Zeus thunderbolts !!  :)

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« Reply #14879 on: November 10, 2012, 10:36:26 PM »
@all,

perhaps somewhat off topic, but certainly relevant.
I did some further experiments with my copper tube like coax coils.

Pulsing the inner or outer members of these coax coils show normal inductive and/or capacitive coupling as measured with a scope.

The coil with the least capacitive coupling between inner and outer member (the one with the HV wire inside) shows the highest voltage transfer (2600V p2p put in, 2420 V p2p out at 10nS).

Next will be the installation and testing of some ordered RG316U coax cable (at least the inner part of it) which has  some iron (steel) conductor:  Inner conductor Stranded copperclad steel wires, silver coated 7 x 0.17

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV5GprnHusA&list=UUdJ2A-075yx9y4bKqu_8Q8A&index=1&feature=plcp

Photo of the used pulse signal below

Regards Itsu


 

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