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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13191208 times)

Offline sparks

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14835 on: November 08, 2012, 03:24:06 PM »
     I like these choke coils.  The voltage from the power scource on completing the circuit doesn't blow-up the air.  But on opening the circuit quite dramatic.  The energy is conserved while the power is gained.  There is no free-energy here.  It just gets the job done or punches through.  Electrical equivalent of an archer.  The archer can put just as much effort into throwing an arrow as he can cocking the bow.  Which gets the job done?  A carpenter can drive a nail through a board with a hammer or he can use the hammer to try to push the nail through the wood. 
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14836 on: November 08, 2012, 03:26:36 PM »
No - the braid can carry both ("live" and "neutral"). The braid is composed of many wires (conductors). Those wires can be enameled and isolated from each other. Like this.
The enamel is transparent and hard to notice and it can withstand 3000V on a standard magnet wire.

So, the two faces of the braid could be used as seperate and electrically isolated conductors. Do you think that the 1KW-2KW heater could conceivably run on the braid shown in the video connected to an external 440V / 480V single phase supply?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14837 on: November 08, 2012, 03:48:39 PM »
@Happy

Thanks for your response. You see that logic does not hold up when you put it beside the Green Box device where TK removed the wire to the ground pipe and connected the wire going to the radiator. With the rad the device still started but the output was very low. This confirms he needs a constant neutral or very well grounded source by having tried that myself, I would confirm more the requirement of a real neutral connected to the AC mains and not a grounded rod or object.

Also if you consider the Aq2 device ground was only a damn bolt in a block of cement that would have been a worst ground source then having the buried radiator, that bolt must have a wire connected on the other side under the cement block and going somewhere to a real AC neutral, so this confirm more the choice A above. I am not saying this takes away from the novelty but it puts the effect to be more dependent on an outside influence then they are showing.


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If I understand verpies correctly, he is saying that the braid does not need to be physically split where it is on show to form two conductors because each copper strand is individually insulated. Therefore, the braid could pass under the bolt and down into the ground under the manhole cover, without damaging the insulation. The two sides of the braid could then have been cut in half and each half stripped of insulation to provide two separate conductors. The same could be done in the aquarium.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14838 on: November 08, 2012, 03:50:08 PM »
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And in the Aq2 there is only one braiding that is bolted to the cement block

The bolt could be the projecting portion of a rod grounding
iron copper 2 meter long and 16mm in diameter

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14839 on: November 08, 2012, 04:02:23 PM »
Full respect to wattsup, aking and good folks here keeping this ship on course despite the occasional tsunamis.

Im an intuitive engineer not an EE. From my research, the following theory may be useful here for reverse engineering TK´s tech.

Paul Dirac´s 1928 proof of the ether – “Dirac´s Equation and the Sea of Electrical Energy” parts I and II here.

http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf

1.   What is Electricity?
Ether is an electrical fluid, the “Dirac Sea” or Tesla´s “Radiant Energy” - The electrical plasma of the universe is like the plasma of our blood, it flows throughout the body of the universe to an intelligent design. Walter Russell, philosopher and free energy scientist, described it as a thought driven electrical universe. Science cant understand where the power is coming from until it reinstates the ether as part of or similar to Lovelock´s Gaia Hypothesis, i.e. the universe is a living being and we are its mind cells… ?

2.   The Earth as a Capacitor in an electro-magnetic solar system
The Earth is a capacitor in the solar system circuit receiving its energy via electro-magnetic induction. The Earth is like one battery plate, the electrical circuit can supply the other “plate”. Can also be an antenna. What is needed, we know,  is a dipole, to disturb the radiant sea.

3.   Disturbing the Sea – the radiant surge
Tesla observed the surge of electrical radiant energy on closing the switch of the early DC generators. That surge is created by shorting the battery plates between the radiant source (earth plate) and the circuit, in rapid succession, to discharge to the load. The plasma, or air, acts as the electrolyte. The DC switching is established by the frequency generator and or spark-gap.
This is also the reason for the quarter wavelength frequency 1:4 ratio between L1 and L2 coils in an LC circuit because the quarter wave rise establishes the potential difference (+ve component) and nature supplied the other (-ve) component wave half.

4.   Load as environmental imbalance
Nature abhors a vaccum and seeks to cancel out or balance the potential difference. With TK the load is seen by the (radiant) source as a dipole difference or vaccum to be filled.  Bedini´s monopoles can charge 4 batteries from 1 primary because the 4 bats are seen as the load, charged with higher voltage pulses than the charge battery. The primary only serves to drive the “switch”. Same with TK, he starts his device with just enough juice to discharge a cap and establish the quarter wave.  From my tests it is clear that Bedini´s voltage spike has to be a radiant spike not an electron spike otherwise it simply takes the juice from the primary.  Did Bedini actually earth his charge batteries (led to ground hint?)

A lot more to figure out before applying this to circuit building but this perspective helped my progress so far.
Practical criticism anyone?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14840 on: November 08, 2012, 04:13:13 PM »
"Also if you consider the Aq2 device ground was only a damn bolt in a block of cement that would have been a worst ground source then having the buried radiator,"

What makes me wonder is how carefully this guy was swapping at the bolt, as if he wasn't sure if it would be "hot" or not... I smell fish there..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14841 on: November 08, 2012, 04:19:12 PM »
Full respect to wattsup, aking and good folks here keeping this ship on course despite the occasional tsunamis.

Im an intuitive engineer not an EE. From my research, the following theory may be useful here for reverse engineering TK´s tech.

Paul Dirac´s 1928 proof of the ether – “Dirac´s Equation and the Sea of Electrical Energy” parts I and II here.

http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf

1.   What is Electricity?
Ether is an electrical fluid, the “Dirac Sea” or Tesla´s “Radiant Energy” - The electrical plasma of the universe is like the plasma of our blood, it flows throughout the body of the universe to an intelligent design. Walter Russell, philosopher and free energy scientist, described it as a thought driven electrical universe. Science cant understand where the power is coming from until it reinstates the ether as part of or similar to Lovelock´s Gaia Hypothesis, i.e. the universe is a living being and we are its mind cells… ?

2.   The Earth as a Capacitor in an electro-magnetic solar system
The Earth is a capacitor in the solar system circuit receiving its energy via electro-magnetic induction. The Earth is like one battery plate, the electrical circuit can supply the other “plate”. Can also be an antenna. What is needed, we know,  is a dipole, to disturb the radiant sea.

3.   Disturbing the Sea – the radiant surge
Tesla observed the surge of electrical radiant energy on closing the switch of the early DC generators. That surge is created by shorting the battery plates between the radiant source (earth plate) and the circuit, in rapid succession, to discharge to the load. The plasma, or air, acts as the electrolyte. The DC switching is established by the frequency generator and or spark-gap.
This is also the reason for the quarter wavelength frequency 1:4 ratio between L1 and L2 coils in an LC circuit because the quarter wave rise establishes the potential difference (+ve component) and nature supplied the other (-ve) component wave half.

4.   Load as environmental imbalance
Nature abhors a vaccum and seeks to cancel out or balance the potential difference. With TK the load is seen by the (radiant) source as a dipole difference or vaccum to be filled.  Bedini´s monopoles can charge 4 batteries from 1 primary because the 4 bats are seen as the load, charged with higher voltage pulses than the charge battery. The primary only serves to drive the “switch”. Same with TK, he starts his device with just enough juice to discharge a cap and establish the quarter wave.  From my tests it is clear that Bedini´s voltage spike has to be a radiant spike not an electron spike otherwise it simply takes the juice from the primary.  Did Bedini actually earth his charge batteries (led to ground hint?)

A lot more to figure out before applying this to circuit building but this perspective helped my progress so far.
Practical criticism anyone?

While i agree with your points 1-3 i disagree with an aspect of your point 4.
If the TK load would represent a Bedini-esque dipole difference it would carry (pulsed) DC, the clamp proves that TK has sinusoidal AC in the load circuit (as well as the frequency counter)
I read somewhere that Bedini did also ground the monopole-charge-battery with better results (to be expected).
Not entirely sure, but i also remember a diagram where Bedini did use the actual earth ground symbol, but again that is a different technology.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14842 on: November 08, 2012, 05:04:55 PM »

@verpies
Yes but in the Green Box video there is only one wire clearly going to the ground pipe. And in the Aq2 there is only one braiding that is bolted to the cement block and no evidence of anything being split into two separate conducting lines. What is disconcerting is that they show the bolt on the cement block and want us to think that braided shield wire stops there.

In that video, when the guy goes to the outside door that is to his left, there is a door in front of him that is closed but we can see a wire on the floor coming from that room and going under the carpet. That is not good to see. They could have passed that wire to the outside underground and to the ground bolt without any problems.

I am amazed that the a.king21 and Wesley group videos were not more complete with more steady camera works, more looking all over the device, more looking at that ground wire and any other peripheral signs including some power measurements, etc. In the a.king21 case, seems to me if you are paying for a demo, you are also paying for the right to make your measurements as you see fit, otherwise you are at the mercy of the ones doing the demo and creating all their distractions. In the case of the previous paragraph of that mystery wire, why did the group not investigate that wire to make sure where it originated and where it is going. You have to look at everything and not be intimidated. Seems to me TK had complete control at all times.

wattsup

The Green Box video is not nearly as 'clean' as the aqua2 video, so there is a real chance that a 'key' wire was hidden.

I too find it hard to understand why the investigating team did not take more time looking at and photographing the braid along its entire length and looking around the manhole and the mystery wire, assuming they saw it!

Happy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14843 on: November 08, 2012, 05:33:01 PM »
@ALL

Regarding that PVC pipe device, with those two mosfets he could be switching both sides of the primary using one npn and one pnp. He also mentioned in that video that his transformers were "custom made", but those look like standard Hammond type toroid transformers like I have. I wonder what the ratios are. Hmmmmmmm.

It's nice to see but I will not spend any time on it since no other info is available. I would rather stay on the 2004 device which I am getting very close. Until I get my DC SSRs and some big zener diodes to experiment in another ways. Now I am using my AC SSRs with variable capability and am putting them in various locations around a base circuit to see the results.

As for my question about the output of 24-26 amps, thanks for your responses but I think it is not the right answers. If the output was high voltage, then he would have shown very low amps and on top of that he would not have put the bulbs in parallel but in series to better match the output. Like I said, something is very wrong with that 24 amps but I can't put my finger on it yet. The bulb load would act like an rms leveling point for the output regardless of high voltage or not and the amps would still be read accurately enough. The nonchalant way they measured the output amps as if it is a normal and accurate thing. Something is not right.

Also I am looking again real close up to TKs 2004 video to try and see if there are any other clues. The biggest quandary is that diode plate. Too bad the video is so crappy. I have a feeling that ultimately that diode plate is being used backwards and is really feeding the heavy side of the main transformer making that one the real primary and where the inverter AC is connected to the main transformer is actually the secondary.

There are not several record breaking technology usages here. In all probability there is only one out of the box effect we have not seen yet and that is the one that is causing a floating AC system to require a neutral ground connection. But so far I have seen no way to do this and any standard floating AC or DC system working at low frequency would have no use for such a neutral ground.

TK says the secret is simple. But is the secret to make the device work or to make his trick work?

If this was a trick, then TK still had to find a simple method to either make the device to produce.......

a) a floating secondary hot line that requires a mains neutral or good Earth ground, or,
b) a floating secondary neutral line that requires a mains hot. Choice B would imply that his ground was hot spiked by a third party during the demo. Not cool but hey.

But, technically, both of these are impossible to do using the standard methods as I have tried them in many ways .

So we keep plugging away at it. hehehe

wattsup

@verpies or anyone

Can you or other please, please provide some ideas on how to use a zener diode for pulsing. The way I understand it in my low EE perspective is zeners are only used to dump any over voltages to ground. Could that be a link between the zener and TKs need for a good ground wire. If a zener is used on an AC line, are there two types available one to discharge the positive peak and another to discharge the negative peak.


Привет всем !!

Yes wattsup you get a TK secret. Diodes he used were old Russian Rectifier Diffusion Diodes - not in Rectification mode but in DSRD mode or Nano-Pulsing mode !! He pulsed the coil with Nano-Pulser like Dally, Stiven Mark, Stanley Meyer and .... many more. Here is Belkin's schematic from 1980 which produced powerful Nano-Pulses. You should try this variant if you already have made his replication. More info about Nano-Pulsing-Coils you can find in Dally thread.

http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy

Big silver capacitor besides diodes pcb is not an electrolytic filtering capacitor but HV blocking capacitor. Use special HV Impulse Capacitor about 1-2 nF with working voltage minimum 2KV-DC. More is better. I can suggest you Oxigen free copper coaxial cable and Oxigen free copper pipe for biggest coil and grounding.

wattsup one more thing. Examine carefully French Sarenn’s Shelter OU genarator. He have used powerful 50Hz oscillator, with 50,75 watts. Also he used Caduceus coil. It's a matter of days when Kapanaze Replications will come on the Sun day light like mushrooms after the rain !! Take care !!

Regards

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #14844 on: November 08, 2012, 05:41:27 PM »
So, the two faces of the braid could be used as seperate and electrically isolated conductors. Do you think that the 1KW-2KW heater could conceivably run on the braid shown in the video connected to an external 440V / 480V single phase supply?
Hardly on 480V, but it could be done easily with a 4x higher voltage. Preferably HV DC because DC does not create any EM interference and is undetectable by inductive meters.
An inverter inside the aquarium can easily convert the HV DC flowing in the braid into 230V and a 2kW inverter (or a Buck Converter) is not large at high switching frequency.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14845 on: November 08, 2012, 05:55:27 PM »
Diodes he used were old Russian Rectifier Diffusion Diodes - not in Rectification mode but in DSRD mode or Nano-Pulsing mode !!
Yes, those old Russian rectifier diodes can be used as DSR diodes to produce nanosecond pulses with 100kW power levels.
It is not a simple task, though - especially if a saturable transformer is used to drive these diodes ...but a good EE can do it at home with an aid of an oscilloscope and a soldering iron.

This guy had successfully produced these nanopulses with a circuit built on a breadboard.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2012, 06:55:50 PM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14846 on: November 08, 2012, 06:48:07 PM »
@Happy

1) I really never have seen shielding wire made with wire magwire where each strand is isolated.
2) I doubt he would risk doing that with so much juice going into that heater element.
3) I have looked very close up at the bolt in the Aq2 and there is no possibility that the line was split. It is only one line just like in the Green Box ground wire to the water pipe.

My intention is not to say that TK is faking anything with two hidden feed lines, etc. That I have never seen any evidence of like a Wire X type situation. What I am trying to ascertain is that he absolutely needs a ground wire that goes to the mains neutral and not a ground that is just a rod buried in the Earth.

I think it is clear now that he was always using an AC neutral for his ground connection and this makes a very big difference.

@Сергей В.

Thank you. Thank you and thanks again for that information.  Last night I tool some time do do the exact same 2004 image grabs to look at each close up and I noticed that the diode plate wires do not exactly match my last diagram as being a standard FWBR.

The diagram you just posted is really what I see there and I will be able to try this out tonight since I have received 10 new stud diodes for testing.  The way the diodes are shown in relation to the capacitor is just perfect so this I will try tonight.

My question is in your diagram they show the diodes as you say DSRD. Is that like a zener diode?

Thanks again.

wattsup



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14847 on: November 08, 2012, 06:59:55 PM »
My question is in your diagram they show the diodes as you say DSRD. Is that like a zener diode?
No, the Zener effect is a completely different effect.
Please read this including all of the attachments. All of your questions are answered there.

P.S.
Most "stud diodes" do not work well as DSR Diodes.  Only few types do, e.g.: KD204.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14848 on: November 08, 2012, 07:04:14 PM »
1) I really never have seen shielding wire made with wire magwire where each strand is isolated.
I have - in a very rare coaxial cable.
Also, a determined man can always weave a braid out of an enameled magnet wire if he puts his fingers and mind to it.

2) I doubt he would risk doing that with so much juice going into that heater element.
800mA is not much current ("juice").
Power transfer through a Litzed braid requires 3000V but not much current.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14849 on: November 08, 2012, 07:06:00 PM »
@Happy

1) I really never have seen shielding wire made with wire magwire where each strand is isolated.
2) I doubt he would risk doing that with so much juice going into that heater element.
3) I have looked very close up at the bolt in the Aq2 and there is no possibility that the line was split. It is only one line just like in the Green Box ground wire to the water pipe.

My intention is not to say that TK is faking anything with two hidden feed lines, etc. That I have never seen any evidence of like a Wire X type situation. What I am trying to ascertain is that he absolutely needs a ground wire that goes to the mains neutral and not a ground that is just a rod buried in the Earth.

I think it is clear now that he was always using an AC neutral for his ground connection and this makes a very big difference.

@Сергей В.

Thank you. Thank you and thanks again for that information.  Last night I tool some time do do the exact same 2004 image grabs to look at each close up and I noticed that the diode plate wires do not exactly match my last diagram as being a standard FWBR.

The diagram you just posted is really what I see there and I will be able to try this out tonight since I have received 10 new stud diodes for testing.  The way the diodes are shown in relation to the capacitor is just perfect so this I will try tonight.

My question is in your diagram they show the diodes as you say DSRD. Is that like a zener diode?

Thanks again.

wattsup

Hmm, i dare to ask you this question, because no one else does.
The AC neutral is referenced to ground usually at the breaker-box anyway.
So if he does not use the phase from that breaker box, but creates the phase/live (a different one!) with his inverter and likely having that transformer-isolated from the load circuit, why would there be a difference between
connecting his load circuit to an earth ground or AC neutral except the cable length to the breaker box exhibiting a bigger wire resistance as a consequence of the cable length?
The load circuit should have a very small ground impedance for the expected energy conversion, so it is more likely that he goes with a big dia cable straight to ground instead of
facing a higher wire resistance of the AC neutral (wherever he would connect to it) which then in turn also connects to ground.


 

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