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verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14715 on: November 02, 2012, 09:10:51 AM »
Here is a video of near-field wireless power transfer for those of you who wonder whether the aquarium frame of Mr. Kapanadze's devices, contains 3 mutually perpendicular pickup coils.
http://youtu.be/SAbgpMNteCw

P.S.
The power transmitting coil ideally would be located inside of the floor/ceiling or inside walls of the room - that's why it is important to take any extraordinary DUTs outdoors, in order to eliminate this method of power transfer.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14716 on: November 02, 2012, 10:30:42 AM »
i have a question for all of you
is the depalma generator fake?  i have seen documentary that some scientists in hungary confirmed the generator to give way more power then was going in it.
very small voltage but very high amperage.
I think this generator could be made Solid state,  the question is..How??
And wheter this is the moving version of kapanadze.

If motor works on a similar principle than a transformer,
Then this wierd motor could be made into a transformer too
How??

also You guys have ignored my post about this gentleman...
up to 900% efficiency claimed:
http://www.rexresearch.com/imris/imris.htm

So simple you will laugh....   1 secret component of kapanadze..?   
A highly pressurized spark gap? is that all?
The spark gap might be hidden anywhere you know...  inside those little boxes or even inside the coil in some demos.
The spark gap this guy was using is pressurized with xenon at 6.6 bar of pressure.
I have seen patents on other gases which show excess energy output too in the same fashion with high voltage.
XENON, OZONE, NITROGEN, ARGON, etc.
i dont think this is a trickery. it is documented all around.
put your hands up who tried this at all..  dont think so :)
No head scratching.  Just need to make the component thats all.
 Anyone is experienced in working with gases pressurizing vessels, melting glass etc..?


dont ignore this or i will know you are ignoring it or hiding it by intention.
it is a fact that it is the simplest experiment.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14717 on: November 02, 2012, 01:15:29 PM »

I get more info on the french replication of the kapanadz's device
 
here it is
 
http://www.overunity.com/13073/replication-du-montage-de-kapanadz-au-refuge-de-fa/new/#new
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14718 on: November 02, 2012, 01:20:09 PM »
Is the depalma generator fake? 
This generator really produces electric current.  It's a very old design that has been invented by Faraday. Read about it here.

I have seen documentary that some scientists in hungary confirmed the generator to give way more power then was going in it.
I have never seen those claims validated, and there were many replication attempts over many decades.

I think this generator could be made Solid state
I don't think so. The motion between the disk and the external circuit with load on it, is essential to the operation of the device.
However I have never seen a version of this motor, that has multiple radial load circuits that are stationary but switched by mechanical means (or by transistors).

If motor works on a similar principle than a transformer,
It works on the principle of charge separation by Lorentz deflection.

dont ignore this or i will know you are ignoring it or hiding it by intention.
Most likely your post will be ignored because it is off-topic in this thread.
This thread is not for discussion of all OU devices.
There are other threads about rexresearch and the N-machine on overunity.com

I am replying only because there is so little traffic here lately.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14719 on: November 02, 2012, 02:56:16 PM »
If you just remember that energy, not power, is the conserved quantity, you won't go wrong. Energy in = energy out, minus losses. Peak power in can be much less than peak power out, if the power is converted to pulses of short duration. But average power, measured correctly, should show the same kind of equality as total energy.
So does this mean every radio station is a »Over Unity« device? Still unclear, therefore I will calculate this stuff vice versa:

The input of a medium wave transmitter shall be 85 kilowatt at 50Hz coming from the power station. That's all we have. The output of the headphone (earphone) shall be 50Hz audio sine wave, so the output has the same frequency and waveform as the input.

The transmitter covers an area of 100 square kilometer. That means if the covered area is (most likely) circular then the farthest receiver would be at a distance of just 6 kilometer (rounded up). 85,000 watt ÷ 100 square kilometer = 850 watt. Each square kilometer receives therefore 850 watt. One square kilometer has 1,000,000 square meters. Hence 1 square meter receives 0.00085 watt of the initial input power (or energy, however named). The ferrite rod of the Crystal Radio has a size of 10 × 1 centimeter. That is 1 one-thousandth of 1 square meter (one square meter can hold 1,000 ferrite rods). Hence 0.00085 watt ÷ 1,000 = 0.00000085 watt for each ferrite rod and earphone. Now 0.850 watt equals 850 milliwatt, 0.000850 watt equals 850 microwatt, 0.000000850 watt equals therefore 850 nanowatt.

Hence is it possible that a headphone of a Crystal Radio can produce any audible noise with an input of just 850 nanowatt? If not then where is the additional energy coming from? For comparison, a hifi headphone runs with approx. 0.1 watt (and higher) that's 100 milliwatt.

Therefore the conclusion from this could be that »Over Unity« in electric equipment is an everyday phenomenon but usually so small in size or hidden in some way that no one will notice it.

I am replying only because there is so little traffic here lately.
Maybe some people here have already figured out how the device works, so they just quietly disappear from the forum ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14720 on: November 02, 2012, 05:14:58 PM »
Perhaps we should play dumb and start again at square one. :)

What is an LC circuit? Wikipedia says:

»An LC circuit, also called a resonant circuit, tank circuit, or tuned circuit, consists of an inductor, represented by the letter L, and a capacitor, represented by the letter C. When connected together, they can act as an electrical resonator, an electrical analogue of a tuning fork, storing energy oscillating at the circuit's resonant frequency.«

What can we do with an LC circuit? Wikipedia says:

»The resonance effect of the LC circuit has many important applications in signal processing and communications systems.

1. The most common application of tank circuits is tuning radio transmitters and receivers. For example, when we tune a radio to a particular station, the LC circuits are set at resonance for that particular carrier frequency.
2. A series resonant circuit provides voltage magnification.
3. A parallel resonant circuit provides current magnification.
4. A parallel resonant circuit can be used as load impedance in output circuits of RF amplifiers. Due to high impedance, the gain of amplifier is maximum at resonant frequency.
5. Both parallel and series resonant circuits are used in induction heating.«

This leads to the following considerations:

We take a look at the first example regarding the tuning of a radio. A transmitter sends out radio waves with a certain frequency, then a receiver is tuned in on exactly that frequency by means of a resonating LC circuit in order to receive only this single station. All other waves coming form other transmitters with different wavelengths are getting blocked.

But are they really getting blocked by the LC circuit? If an LC circuit in a radio blocks all frequencies which are not in resonance then consequently a radio without an LC circuit (maybe because the LC circuit in the radio is broken) should receive all frequencies of all stations at once because no frequency is blocked. But I can't remember having ever seen a broken radio that receives all stations in range simultaneously. Why is that so?

Is that so because the LC circuit does not block all non-resonant frequencies but it rather amplifies the resonant frequency? If so then where is the energy coming from which is needed to amplify the resonant frequency? Is the energy coming from a battery or power supply (as generally accepted)? If so then how can a Crystal Radio (notice the grounding) without any power source receive a resonant radio station?

Is that so because the energy which amplifies the resonant frequency is coming rather from the aether than a battery? And here the aether means literally the aether, not the remote radio transmitter. The transmitter (the radio station) provides only the resonant frequency but not the power.

Now, could it be that this fundamental principle works independently of the frequency range? Hence could it further be that Kapanadze's inverter is the »radio station« (directly connected not via antenna) that provides the resonant frequency (of 50Hz) but it does not provide the power? The power is actually provided by the aether by means of a resonant LC circuit the same way like in a Cristal Radio? ::)

Thus any Cristal Radio would be an »Over Unity« device per se (just as a side note).

Therefore could someone please do quick experiments on that basis so I can save my own equipment ... 8)
Yes, indeed. :(

exactly!

Думаю интересно почитать как работает детекторный приёмник (это не впадение в детство, а многие наверное даже не знают что это такое, а это была основа всего радиодела). Как я думаю это напрямую относится к данной теме.

Выдержка:
"При этом можно сразу же отметить, что приемник с контуром будет работать заметно громче простейшего приемника (рис. 53, 54). Это объясняется тем, что напряжение, возникающее на контуре, за счет резонанса, значительно больше, чем напряжение, которое подводилось к цепи детектор - телефон в безконтурном приемнике."

При чём чем старее книги про детекторный приёмник тем более подробно всё описано.
Решил для себя проверить математически что происходит в контуре детекторного приёмника (выделяет он резонансную частоту или усиливает её более остальных) при варианте как описано выше в книге что в приёмнике стоит последовательный колебательный контур.
Как я понимаю
Примем что детекторный приёмник сделан на основе последовательного колебательного контра
Примем индуктивность 100 мкГн, ёмкость 100 пФ, активное сопротивление контура 20 Ом.
Резонансная частота для этого контура 1592,36 кГц.
Допустим на антенну действуют сигналы от трёх радиостанций (1000,0 кГц, 1592,36 кГц и 2000,0 кГц) и все три радиостанции на антенне наводят, для простоты, 1 вольт.
Рассчитаем как будет колебательный контур вести себя для всех трёх радиостанций по данному методу:
1. Рассчитаем индуктивное и емкостное сопротивления Xc, XL ( Ом)
2. Полное сопротивление контура для данной частоты Z (Ом)
3. Ток в контуре I (А)
4. Напряжения на катушке и конденсаторе Uc, UL (Вольт)

Для частоты 1000,0 кГц
1. Xc= 1592.36 Ом XL= 628,0 Ом
2. Z=944,36 Ом
3. I= 0,001 А
4. Uc= 1,69 В UL= 0,67 В
Для частоты 1592,36 кГц
1. Xc= 1000,0 Ом XL= 1000,0 Ом
2. Z= 20,0 Ом
3. I= 0,05 А
4. Uc= 50,0 В UL= 50,0 В
Для частоты 2000,0 кГц
1. Xc= 796,18 Ом XL= 1256,0 Ом
2. Z= 439,82 Ом
3. I = 0,00227 А
4. Uc= 1,81 В UL= 2,86 В

Получается, что в данном детекторном приёмнике резонансная частота выделяется путём усиления её значительно сильнее остальных, а не путём отсекания всех остальных частот. Т.е. детекторный приёмник есть сам по себе усилитель мощности!


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14721 on: November 02, 2012, 05:17:02 PM »
So does this mean every radio station is a »Over Unity« device? Still unclear, therefore I will calculate this stuff vice versa:

The input of a medium wave transmitter shall be 85 kilowatt at 50Hz coming from the power station. That's all we have. The output of the headphone (earphone) shall be 50Hz audio sine wave, so the output has the same frequency and waveform as the input.

The transmitter covers an area of 100 square kilometer. That means if the covered area is (most likely) circular then the farthest receiver would be at a distance of just 6 kilometer (rounded up). 85,000 watt ÷ 100 square kilometer = 850 watt. Each square kilometer receives therefore 850 watt. One square kilometer has 1,000,000 square meters. Hence 1 square meter receives 0.00085 watt of the initial input power (or energy, however named). The ferrite rod of the Crystal Radio has a size of 10 × 1 centimeter. That is 1 one-thousandth of 1 square meter (one square meter can hold 1,000 ferrite rods). Hence 0.00085 watt ÷ 1,000 = 0.00000085 watt for each ferrite rod and earphone. Now 0.850 watt equals 850 milliwatt, 0.000850 watt equals 850 microwatt, 0.000000850 watt equals therefore 850 nanowatt.

Hence is it possible that a headphone of a Crystal Radio can produce any audible noise with an input of just 850 nanowatt? If not then where is the additional energy coming from? For comparison, a hifi headphone runs with approx. 0.1 watt (and higher) that's 100 milliwatt.

Therefore the conclusion from this could be that »Over Unity« in electric equipment is an everyday phenomenon but usually so small in size or hidden in some way that no one will notice it.
Maybe some people here have already figured out how the device works, so they just quietly disappear from the forum ...


My friend, don't let yourself fooled by scientific claims. Resonant circuits are overunity exactly like tuning fork.
What makes tuning fork so efficient in long generating sound ? The answer is simple : it is very slightly loaded. TinselKoala already answered how it can be done. If radio waves are in khz or Mhz range and we use it to charge capacitor without completely dampening oscillations then we can tap this energy at 50Hz frequency.
There are already even self-running circuits described and understood taping radiowaves (but are also not allowed and not much efficient). However what if you have own transmitter near receiver ????

Conclusion :  free running tank circuits are overunity and half of patents are about the input/output issues from tank circuits.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14722 on: November 02, 2012, 05:33:43 PM »
exactly!

Думаю интересно почитать как работает детекторный приёмник (это не впадение в детство, а многие наверное даже не знают что это такое, а это была основа всего радиодела). Как я думаю это напрямую относится к данной теме.

Выдержка:
"При этом можно сразу же отметить, что приемник с контуром будет работать заметно громче простейшего приемника (рис. 53, 54). Это объясняется тем, что напряжение, возникающее на контуре, за счет резонанса, значительно больше, чем напряжение, которое подводилось к цепи детектор - телефон в безконтурном приемнике."

При чём чем старее книги про детекторный приёмник тем более подробно всё описано.
Решил для себя проверить математически что происходит в контуре детекторного приёмника (выделяет он резонансную частоту или усиливает её более остальных) при варианте как описано выше в книге что в приёмнике стоит последовательный колебательный контур.
Как я понимаю
Примем что детекторный приёмник сделан на основе последовательного колебательного контра
Примем индуктивность 100 мкГн, ёмкость 100 пФ, активное сопротивление контура 20 Ом.
Резонансная частота для этого контура 1592,36 кГц.
Допустим на антенну действуют сигналы от трёх радиостанций (1000,0 кГц, 1592,36 кГц и 2000,0 кГц) и все три радиостанции на антенне наводят, для простоты, 1 вольт.
Рассчитаем как будет колебательный контур вести себя для всех трёх радиостанций по данному методу:
1. Рассчитаем индуктивное и емкостное сопротивления Xc, XL ( Ом)
2. Полное сопротивление контура для данной частоты Z (Ом)
3. Ток в контуре I (А)
4. Напряжения на катушке и конденсаторе Uc, UL (Вольт)

Для частоты 1000,0 кГц
1. Xc= 1592.36 Ом XL= 628,0 Ом
2. Z=944,36 Ом
3. I= 0,001 А
4. Uc= 1,69 В UL= 0,67 В
Для частоты 1592,36 кГц
1. Xc= 1000,0 Ом XL= 1000,0 Ом
2. Z= 20,0 Ом
3. I= 0,05 А
4. Uc= 50,0 В UL= 50,0 В
Для частоты 2000,0 кГц
1. Xc= 796,18 Ом XL= 1256,0 Ом
2. Z= 439,82 Ом
3. I = 0,00227 А
4. Uc= 1,81 В UL= 2,86 В

Получается, что в данном детекторном приёмнике резонансная частота выделяется путём усиления её значительно сильнее остальных, а не путём отсекания всех остальных частот. Т.е. детекторный приёмник есть сам по себе усилитель мощности!


It's worth to translate really. I put here translation of the last sentence:

Crystal set is in itself a power amplifier.

A power amplifier amplifying own power, I thought about it many times. Do you see resemblances to Kapanadze device loop ???


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14723 on: November 02, 2012, 05:35:13 PM »
Привет всем

Did anybody downloaded this file F.Andrei "Compil Kapanadze.pdf", date 28-Oct-2012 19:54, size 46Mb, from Franch site http://www.edenguard.fr/Docs%20NRJ%20Et%20Cie/Kapanadze
File contain important informations and schematic of Fabrice Andrei successful replication of Kapanadze 5kW.

If you have something important put it of several independent hosts and free servers and give all links at once so some people can download it and save from destruction or modifying!!


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14724 on: November 02, 2012, 05:38:59 PM »
Привет всем

Did anybody downloaded this file F.Andrei "Compil Kapanadze.pdf", date 28-Oct-2012 19:54, size 46Mb, from Franch site http://www.edenguard.fr/Docs%20NRJ%20Et%20Cie/Kapanadze
File contain important informations and schematic of Fabrice Andrei successful replication of Kapanadze 5kW.

If you have something important put it of several independent hosts and free servers and give all links at once so some people can download it and save from destruction or modifying!!
YES....

http://yadi.sk/d/axnkCyIZ0X52T

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14725 on: November 02, 2012, 05:41:01 PM »
So does this mean every radio station is a »Over Unity« device? Still unclear, therefore I will calculate this stuff vice versa:
The input of a medium wave transmitter shall be 85 kilowatt at 50Hz coming from the power station. That's all we have. The output of the headphone (earphone) shall be 50Hz audio sine wave, so the output has the same frequency and waveform as the input.

The transmitter covers an area of 100 square kilometer. That means if the covered area is (most likely) circular then the farthest receiver would be at a distance of just 6 kilometer (round
No it isn't OU.

The short wave transmitter may radiate 85kW of RF power at 2MHz sine wave carrier.
The radiation pattern of the transmitter antenna is a spherical (not a circular), so you must divide the 85kW by the surface area of a sphere, that has a radius equal to the distance between the receiver antenna and the transmitter.

Also, if 50Hz audio sine wave is amplitude modulated on that 2MHz carrier then 1 cycle of that carrier constitutes only 0.0025% Duty Cycle of the 50Hz audio signal.

This means that in order to obtain the power available at the headphone of a crystal radio, you must divide the RF power available at the receiver antenna by 0.0025%.

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« Reply #14726 on: November 02, 2012, 05:54:01 PM »
Дарова Антанс, так держись!!

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« Reply #14727 on: November 02, 2012, 06:56:08 PM »
No it isn't OU.

The short wave transmitter may radiate 85kW of RF power at 2MHz sine wave carrier.
The radiation pattern of the transmitter antenna is a spherical (not a circular), so you must divide the 85kW by the surface area of a sphere, that has a radius equal to the distance between the receiver antenna and the transmitter.
100 square kilometer (10 ×10 kilometer) equals a circle with a radius of 5.642 kilometer. A sphere with a radius of 5.642 kilometer has a surface area of 400 square kilometer. Thus if the receiver is 5.642 kilometer away from the transmitter then the initial energy is spread not on 100 square kilometer but on 400 square kilometer. So according to this calculation method it is even 4 times more Over Unity.

Circle And Sphere Area Calculator

Conclusion :  free running tank circuits are overunity and half of patents are about the input/output issues from tank circuits.
Then why are we still here? Maybe I should start making experiments again ...

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« Reply #14728 on: November 02, 2012, 07:05:21 PM »
100 square kilometer (10 ×10 kilometer) equals a circle with a radius of 5.642 kilometer. A sphere with a radius of 5.642 kilometer has a surface area of 400 square kilometer. Thus if the receiver is 5.642 kilometer away from the transmitter then the initial energy is spread not on 100 square kilometer but on 400 square kilometer. So according to this calculation method it is even 4 times more Over Unity.

Circle And Sphere Area Calculator
Then why are we still here? Maybe I should start making experiments again ...

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/feb2_bearden.htm this is the first problem solved , still are two.....

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« Reply #14729 on: November 02, 2012, 07:37:05 PM »
   I'm experimenting with high-voltage ionization of various materials and dumping the high-velocity electrons into a working circuit.  I have been working with a microwave power supply.  I found that a simple modification of the primary drive circuit huge difference in v output for energy invested.   Basic law of induction going on here.  The faster you do something the bigger the response.  Like the problem Henry Ford had with magnetos.  The magneto would store up mechanical power in a spring and then let loose a permanent magnet that swept by a coil very quickly to create a high voltage sine wave to impress on the spark gaps inside a combustion chamber.  The springs would wear out-the heat of the engine would ruin the magnets etc.  Ford went to Tesla the high voltage GURU.  Tesla helped him engineer the ignition coils used even today.  Tesla adhered to Faraday's laws of induction.  The faster you change a magnetic field about a conductor the higher the induced electromotive force.   So in creating your magnetic field change you supply a primary current from a scource.  This rolls the magnetic moments of the atoms in the core steel against the ambient magnetic field force-  and are the springs in the mechanical analogy.  You can ballast this input current so you get some work out of this trigger cocking.  Then pull the trigger.  How do you do this?  Turn the switch off as fast as you can.  BLAM.  Magnetic field collapses about both Input  conductors and OUPUT conductors.  The output conductors did not of course hamper the input spring compression  (unlike most transformers) they were not connected to any apparent load when the springs were compressed.  So what we have is a magnetic field collapsing around two circuits.  The compressing circuit which will of course respond with energy in less than energy out due to circuit losses associated with current flow.  The second circuit maybe over the top.  In the spring analogy we compress the spring.  Place a ball in it's recoil path.  Launch ball and move spring and compressing object (hand?) back to start position.  Primary current and secondary current can oscillate in rlc circuits and damp same either voltage from the cap-current in the l-heat and light off the r.
   This microwave modification sucks.  I used a flyback transformer powered by an old tv chassis last time.  Less engneering.  I have always adhered to my belief that OU effects are due to electron kinetic energy.  Maybe they aren't moving but MIT guys say they are moving on some atoms at 1/6 the speed of light.  Even if it take x number of joules to set them free as they slow down you get your ionizing input plus back.