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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16492436 times)

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14655 on: October 31, 2012, 03:30:20 AM »
Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 31, 2012, 01:15:19 AM
The circuit including the spark gap could have it's own isolated function and not that it must be placed in the primary circuit to be (magnetically) coupled to the secondary.
Then how could there be resonance between the spark and the coils when the spark is an isolated function? ???

Joke aside ...

Now I'm trying to put together some puzzle pieces. On this special website someone ponders what could happen if the »consumer "migrated" to the left«. (The recoil of a gun)

Interestingly Kapanadze's consumer also migrated to the left (see illustration below).

These are just some thoughts of mine without much lyrics ... :)
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tagor

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14656 on: October 31, 2012, 06:59:54 AM »
Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 30, 2012, 04:59:41 PM
Is there a possibility that you have a personal vendetta on that guy? Just neutrally asking,

you have to try to read a lot of french forum on this subject ...
 
 
he is not an electronic engineer , it is a fact
 
he has no skill in electronics , it is a fact , it is only good communication , video , tv ...
 
he has no ampmeter , it is a fact
 
he has no voltmeter , it is a fact
 
he has no wattmeter , it is a fact
 
you have to do your own opinion
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xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14657 on: October 31, 2012, 09:17:21 AM »
Quote from: Zeitmaschine on October 31, 2012, 03:30:20 AM
Then how could there be resonance between the spark and the coils when the spark is an isolated function? ???



Who sais there has to be ?
My point is that TK has produced devices that show no direct connection between spark gap and his TKcoil -> Aquarium1 seems to be merely a safety spark gap
to discharge overvoltages of the coil cap on the left side judging by its irregular discharge events.
I would not go as far as to say that the spark gap is obsolete
just because it is not in direct relation to the TKcoil.
The possibilities for the type of resonance TK states to be using do not limit themselves to merely standard (parametric) LC resonance...
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a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14658 on: October 31, 2012, 11:10:34 AM »
Quote from: verpies on October 30, 2012, 04:22:58 PM
Yes, the spark is caused by HV.
A HV flyback pulse is induced in any inductive circuit when the current flowing through it is interrupted.

Before, you reply that a "mains switch" is not connected to an inductive circuit, think about the self-inductance of wires.
The point is we do not generate HV. We pulse rectified mains voltage and radiant arises. We do not need or use a flyback in the TK system.
I have been saying all along that the TK device has a HV component. But it arises as a byproduct of the switching process.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14659 on: October 31, 2012, 11:49:05 AM »
@sparks

Thank You man. I understand what you mean.

Could somebody point me to good explanation of current transformer working theory ?
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Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14660 on: October 31, 2012, 12:45:09 PM »
Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 31, 2012, 09:17:21 AM
I would not go as far as to say that the spark gap is obsolete
just because it is not in direct relation to the TKcoil.
But to get rid of the spark gap would be not the worst idea, because who wants to fiddle with a aether polluting spark gap in each and every self-powered device like a lamp or a heater or even a radio?

Regards
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xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14661 on: October 31, 2012, 12:48:06 PM »
Quote from: a.king21 on October 31, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
The point is we do not generate HV. We pulse rectified mains voltage and radiant arises. We do not need or use a flyback in the TK system.
I have been saying all along that the TK device has a HV component. But it arises as a byproduct of the switching process.

Trying to rationally follow your theory, the question arises, if you believe that the HV component you are pointing out
is then also able to jump the gap at the spark gap in for instance the green box device?
Or are you also of the opinion that the sparkgap is a "decoy" and is certainly run with a HV driver, but irrelevant to the overall functionality?
Regards

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on October 31, 2012, 12:45:09 PM
But to get rid of the spark gap would be not the worst idea, because who wants to fiddle with a aether polluting spark gap in each and every self-powered device like a lamp or a heater or even a radio?

Regards

I agree. Melnichenko has for example elaborated on the possible health issues in regards to the use of spark gaps in an article. It certainly should be shielded.
However many OU concepts wouldn't work without it. Achieving a solution where it can be omitted/replaced is highly desirable,
but in many cases very difficult.
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wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14662 on: October 31, 2012, 01:40:31 PM »
@all

I have been looking at the IGBT implementation (more finicky then expected) but I think I have found something much better and widely available and more transparent to switching stresses. It is simply done by using two solid state relays (SSR). These generally require a 3vdc to 32vdc pulse signal and can switch 280vac at 70a. They can easily function at 60Hz.

Using a battery fed inverter does not only provide AC voltage/amperage but also the main drive frequency is set in the system. There is no need for frequency control since everything is synced with the inverter.

For 32vdc you take the AC5 line and use a small rheostat set to 32vac, then you half wave rectify with the heat sink components to then feed the DC to both the HV coil for the spark and two SSRs. This is so easy my mind is starting to be insulted.

This type of set-up is very flexible and can be done in many ways. For the HV coil to spark gap, you can use a small AC fed neon ballast and then you do not even need to rectify that part of the power from the AC5 line.

Tonight I will do some easy tests and know for sure.

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14663 on: October 31, 2012, 01:54:17 PM »
Quote from: sparks on September 21, 2012, 05:29:02 PM
   Capacitors aka unshorted spark gaps need not be charged in a closed circuit as long as electrons are moving into and out of one spot in space the rest of space recognises this abnormal charge distribution and will respond.  How much simpler can it get.


Hi sparks,

you have written so much what I didnt understand. If english was my native language, I would have ask earlier and more. The barrier of different language is much to high for making a communication useful for you and me.

But what do mean with your above statement? Could you be a little bit more precise?
Where is that spot in space? Is it one spot for both plates, or one for either plates (so two)?

Thanks in advance
magneto_DC
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a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14664 on: October 31, 2012, 02:45:58 PM »
Quote from: wattsup on October 31, 2012, 01:40:31 PM
@all

I have been looking at the IGBT implementation (more finicky then expected) but I think I have found something much better and widely available and more transparent to switching stresses. It is simply done by using two solid state relays (SSR). These generally require a 3vdc to 32vdc pulse signal and can switch 280vac at 70a. They can easily function at 60Hz.

Using a battery fed inverter does not only provide AC voltage/amperage but also the main drive frequency is set in the system. There is no need for frequency control since everything is synced with the inverter.

For 32vdc you take the AC5 line and use a small rheostat set to 32vac, then you half wave rectify with the heat sink components to then feed the DC to both the HV coil for the spark and two SSRs. This is so easy my mind is starting to be insulted.

This type of set-up is very flexible and can be done in many ways. For the HV coil to spark gap, you can use a small AC fed neon ballast and then you do not even need to rectify that part of the power from the AC5 line.

Tonight I will do some easy tests and know for sure.

wattsup

Can you quote the link please. We're getting there.
(BTW I tried a diy version of this last year but could not pulse at TDC. So sometimes the pulse was on the zero cross over of the sine wave.)
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14665 on: October 31, 2012, 02:57:24 PM »
Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 31, 2012, 12:48:06 PM
Trying to rationally follow your theory, the question arises, if you believe that the HV component you are pointing out
is then also able to jump the gap at the spark gap in for instance the green box device?
Or are you also of the opinion that the sparkgap is a "decoy" and is certainly run with a HV driver, but irrelevant to the overall functionality?
Regards

I believe TK has done it both ways. You can  get rid of the spark gap with a circuit, if it is to remove unwanted excess energy. Magnacoaster had to do just this when I spoke to their technical team. It took him 8 months.
As wattsup has just said, it's so simple he is beginning to feel intellectually insulted.
There are many, many ways this can be done as we are beginning to uncover.
If you look at the scope shots from Magnacoaster, you will see it is pure radiant energy, except he only uses the negative component.
There's a common thread appearing with all these OU devices. It is radiant energy.
Now I understand why Kapanadze went ballistic when we turned up with our scopes. They had recording equipment on them and we would have been able to replay the signals in England. It would have taken me half a second to recognise radiant energy and he knew this.
I can understand his reaction now.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14666 on: October 31, 2012, 04:33:39 PM »
Quote from: a.king21 on October 31, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
There's a common thread appearing with all these OU devices. It is radiant energy.
It would have taken me half a second to recognize radiant energy
What is "radiant energy" ?
Is it a form of energy that radiates in all directions?
How does it appear on an oscilloscope?
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14667 on: October 31, 2012, 06:16:30 PM »
Quote from: wattsup on October 31, 2012, 01:40:31 PM
@all

I have been looking at the IGBT implementation (more finicky then expected) but I think I have found something much better and widely available and more transparent to switching stresses. It is simply done by using two solid state relays (SSR). These generally require a 3vdc to 32vdc pulse signal and can switch 280vac at 70a. They can easily function at 60Hz.

Using a battery fed inverter does not only provide AC voltage/amperage but also the main drive frequency is set in the system. There is no need for frequency control since everything is synced with the inverter.

For 32vdc you take the AC5 line and use a small rheostat set to 32vac, then you half wave rectify with the heat sink components to then feed the DC to both the HV coil for the spark and two SSRs. This is so easy my mind is starting to be insulted.

This type of set-up is very flexible and can be done in many ways. For the HV coil to spark gap, you can use a small AC fed neon ballast and then you do not even need to rectify that part of the power from the AC5 line.

Tonight I will do some easy tests and know for sure.

wattsup


wattsup

Please describe better how you plan impulse to be synced with inverter output. I don't understand....
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a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14668 on: October 31, 2012, 08:34:02 PM »
Quote from: verpies on October 31, 2012, 04:33:39 PM
What is "radiant energy" ?
Is it a form of energy that radiates in all directions?
How does it appear on an oscilloscope?
It is a vertical spike. The "crisper" the better. In a radiant energy device you would get a series of them and little else.(ie on the energy creation side of the device). No sine waves, nothing. The spike is the limit of the scope. In practice the spike goes into "infinitely" high electromagnetic bands right into the Dirac sea. I've got a scope shot from Magnacoaster's youtube site http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f03SdK0PXfk&list=UUXDBjnC4Mma1ohwK9PlxxsQ&index=2&feature=plcp
 
TK's would have been both positive and negative and much closer together.
 
It works also with gravity. Those are the type of scope shots you would have seen from Tesla's earthquake machine if you had converted the physical impulses into electrical signals.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14669 on: October 31, 2012, 08:44:00 PM »
Quote from: a.king21 on October 31, 2012, 08:34:02 PM
It is a vertical spike. The "crisper" the better.
In that case this method of generating spikes would produce them.
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