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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12592260 times)

Offline forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14175 on: September 28, 2012, 07:07:59 AM »
what is the cause of saturation of core anyway ? Rised voltage ?  :o

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14176 on: September 28, 2012, 11:18:38 AM »
what is the cause of saturation of core anyway ? Rised voltage ?  :o
Saturation is a magnetic phenomenon, and besides the core properties, the magnetic flux is dependent only on instantaneous current and turn count.
An the molecular level saturation of the core is caused by all of the domains aligning in one direction. Once the align that way, they cannot align any more.
Saturation decreases the differential permeability but does not decrease the absolute permeability.

What causes current? Mr Ohm wrote that it's the voltage (e.g. EMF) and resistance, like this: I=V/R

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14177 on: September 28, 2012, 11:35:41 AM »
Saturation is a magnetic phenomenon, and besides the core properties, the magnetic flux is dependent only on instantaneous current and turn count.
An the molecular level saturation of the core is caused by all of the domains aligning in one direction. Once the align that way, they cannot align any more.
Saturation decreases the differential permeability but does not decrease the absolute permeability.

What causes current? Mr Ohm wrote that it's the voltage (e.g. EMF) and resistance, like this: I=V/R

good, so you see we have current rise.... ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14177 on: September 28, 2012, 11:35:41 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14178 on: September 28, 2012, 01:20:34 PM »
If we compare where Kapanadze remembered Melnichenko, then at that time on the Internet and on television was just the video where Melnichenko is powered by battery-inverter a homemade fan connected to it via a capacitor (ie created series resonance using the inductance of the motor windings).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPm_TbwmwU4

Kapanadze said - Melnichenko should develop his idea. And according to this idea, in my opinion, went Kapanadze.

So a) what was the idea of Melnichenko, and b) what was the development of his idea? Any idea?

And is the name Мельниченко (Melnichenko) or ist it Мельничено (Melnicheno)?

Translation of this video would be much appreciated. ::)

Nice video quality anyway ... :(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14179 on: September 28, 2012, 01:51:43 PM »
So a) what was the idea of Melnichenko, and b) what was the development of his idea? Any idea?

And is the name Мельниченко (Melnichenko) or ist it Мельничено (Melnicheno)?

Translation of this video would be much appreciated. ::)

Nice video quality anyway ... :(

Is it possible Мельниченко and Kapanadze used the fan motors to start the mechanical resonance process?

"Mechanical resonance occurs when an external source amplifies the vibration level of a mass or structure at its natural frequency. For a rotating mass like a motor or a pump, this occurs at the critical speed(s). Electrical resonance amplifies the magnitude of voltage or current, or both."

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14180 on: September 28, 2012, 02:20:57 PM »
Is it possible Мельниченко and Kapanadze used the fan motors to start the mechanical resonance process?

A fan motor in the tin can? ???

What part of the fan motor is needed to get resonance? Would say it is the coil. Hence what happens if we omit the armature of the fan motor using the coil only? The transformers secondary is connected in series with a capacitor (maybe grounded) and with a coil with iron core (should fit into the tin can). Of course in this way there would be neither any mechanical output nor any output of light, therefore the (free) energy would not be visible. But if one connects an incandescent light bulb to this construction in addition??

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14181 on: September 28, 2012, 04:07:31 PM »
A fan motor in the tin can? ???

What part of the fan motor is needed to get resonance? Would say it is the coil. Hence what happens if we omit the armature of the fan motor using the coil only? The transformers secondary is connected in series with a capacitor (maybe grounded) and with a coil with iron core (should fit into the tin can). Of course in this way there would be neither any mechanical output nor any output of light, therefore the (free) energy would not be visible. But if one connects an incandescent light bulb to this construction in addition??

I'm suspecting that maybe Kapanadze fan in the "Green Box" setup was serving a dual purpose.. Yes, quite possibly, the motor could be hidden in the tin can... This of course is a wild speculation on my part. Considering crude construction of all of his creations, his statements, and simple (to him anyway :D) solutions I think that's where our efforts should be concentrated. Dally's device is way over complicated. I'm willing to bet that TK have never used any IC's in his "fruppus" ;D :D ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14182 on: September 28, 2012, 04:25:35 PM »
Apropos »green«: There is an interesting similarity and the color of this similarity is green. :P

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14183 on: September 28, 2012, 04:33:10 PM »
Here is translation of some of Melnichenco work.. ;)

Out respect for copyrights, I have attached it its entirely..


The following article was printed in the Indian newspaper The Hindu, Science & Technology Supplement, November 20, 1997. It appears to be a translation of a Russian article written by Konstantin Smirnov, RIA Novosti.

Electric resonance for power generation
When Dr. Andrei Melnichenco, a physicist specialising in electrodynamics in the city of Chekhov near Moscow, called our editorial office and described his invention, I did not believe him. But my mistrust did not perplex the inventor, and he offered to demonstrate his device.

The device consists of several batteries and a small converter to change direct current into alternating current (220V, 50Hz) using electric motor.

The power of this motor is far greater than that of the power source. When a small plate with several assemblies is added to the chain of components and switched on, the motor begins to pick up speed in such a way that it would be possible to set an abrasive circle on it and sharpen a knife.

In another experiment, a fan serves as the final component of the device. At first, its blades are slowly rotating but, after a special unit is connected in sequence with it, the fan immediately gains speed and makes a good 'breeze'. All this looked strange, primarily from the standpoint of the law of conservation of energy.

Seeing my perplexity, Melnichenko explained that the process taking place in his device are simple enough, and are based on the phenomenon of electric resonance.

Despite the fact that this phenomenon has been known for more than a century, it is only rarely used in radio engineering and communications electronics where amplification of a signal by many times is needed.

Resonance is not used much in electrical engineering and power generation. By the end of the last century, the great scientist Nicola Tesla used to say that without resonance, electrical engineering was just a waste of energy.

No one attached any importance to this pronouncement at that time. Many of Tesla's works and experiments, for instance the transmission of electricity by one unearthed wire, have only recently been explained.

The scientist staged these experiments a century ago, but it has only been in our days that S. V. Avramenko has managed to reproduce them. This also holds true for the transmission of electric power by means of electromagnetic waves and resonance transformers.

"My first experiments with high-frequency resonance transformers produced results which, to say the least do not always accord with the law of the conservation of energy, but there is a simple mathematical and physical explanation of this", Melnichenko says.

"I have designed several special devices and electric motors which contain many of these ideas and which may help them achieve full resonance in a chain when it consumes energy only in the form of the thermal losses in the winding of the motor and wires of the circuits while the motor rotates without any consumption of energy whatsoever.

"This was shown during the demonstration", the inventor goes on to say. "The power, supplied to the motors, was less than was necessary for their normal operation! I have called the new physical effect transgeneration of electric power. Electric resonance is the principle underlying the operation of the device".

This effect can be very widely used. For instance, electric resonance motors may be employed in electric cars. In this case the storage batteries' mass is minimal.

The capacity, developed by an electric motor, exceeds the supplied electric power by many times, which may be used for devising absolutely autonomous propulsion power units - a kind of superpower plant under the hood.

The battery-driven vehicles, equipped with such power plants, would not need frequent recharging because, just as is the case of an ordinary engine, it would only need storage batteries for an electric start.

All the results have been confirmed by hundreds of experiments with resonances in electric motors (both ordinary and special).

In special motors, it is possible to achieve the quality of resonance in excess of 10 units. The technology of their manufacture is extremely simple while the investments are minimal. The results are superb!

Electromechanics is only the first step. The next are statical devices, which are resonance-based electric power generators.

For instance, a device, supplied at the input with power equal to that of three 'Energizer' batteries can make a 100-watt incandescent lamp burn at the exit.

The frequency is about 1 MHz. Such a device has a rather simple circuit, and is based on resonance. Using it, it is possible to by far increase the power factor of energy networks, and to drastically cut the input (reactive) resistance of ordinary transformers and electric motors.

But creation of fundamentally new, environmentally clean electric power generators is the most important application of electric resonance.

A resonance-based energy transformer will become the main element of such devices. The employment of conductors with very low active resistance - cryoelectrics - for their windings will make it possible to increase power by hundreds and thousands of times, in proportion to resonance qualities of the device.

The Russian Academy of Sciences, in its review says that the principle underlying the operation of the devices does not rouse doubts in theory and in practice, and that the work of the resonance-based electric systems is not in conflict with the laws of electrophysics.

Konstantin Smirnov
RIA Novosti From: Elling Olsen
To: Jerry Decker
Subject: Electric resonance for power generation
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:59:49 +0100

Hi,

The attached article was printed in the Indian newspaper The Hindu, Science & Technology Supplement, November 20, 1997. It appears to be a translation of a Russian article written by Konstantin Smirnov, RIA Novosti.

I typed it using WordPad in Windows 95, so you should easily be able to read it and change the file format to whatever you need. Of course I hope the document will be to find on KeelyNet for everyone to read and I will feel good for having contributed ;-) Keep up the good work.

Elling Olsen, eol@norman.no 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14183 on: September 28, 2012, 04:33:10 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14184 on: September 28, 2012, 05:13:52 PM »
Melnichenko was frequently pointed to in this thread  years ago, his site is down by now :
As far as i remember, folks that have replicated his transformer stuff all stayed under-unity ...
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg237346/#msg237346
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg237425/#msg237425

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYwTVN4orqw&feature=related

IMHO the transformer experiments of Melnichenko are the only ones focused by everybody, all his other work is blindly ignored for some reason.
I took the time to study his russian patents at that time and what Kapanadze referred to could be actually related to Melnichenko's antenna radio wave amplification
work in which he is describing how to avoid killing the energy gain with a constant load ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14185 on: September 28, 2012, 05:23:38 PM »
"A [/size]spark gap[/font][/size] is one of the oldest protective electrical technologies still found in telephone circuits, having been developed in the nineteenth century. A carbon rod electrode is held with an insulator a specific distance from a second electrode. The gap dimension determines the voltage at which a spark will jump between the two parts and short to ground. The typical spacing for telephone applications in North America is [/size]0.076 mm[/size] (0.003").[/size][30] Carbon block suppressors are similar to gas arrestors (GDTs) but with the two electrodes exposed to the air, so their behavior is affected by the surrounding atmosphere, especially the humidity. Since their operation produces an open spark, these devices should [/size]never[/size] be installed where an explosive atmosphere may develop"[/size]

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 The brightness you were seeing is the surge that we usually try to suppress. the reason the gas discharge tube doesn't fire that much is because it isn't designed to fire that much. The ionization takes time to dissipate. The reason Tesla used the magnets was to orient the ionizing energy away from the path of the gap and this allows for a sharper fall and rise shape and hence timing.


 So knowing this stuff helps in figuring out what TK was doing. We have a very dirty ac sudo wave form from the inverter. This then is separated via 1 to 1 transformer and parallel connection. One channel is cleaned up via rectification and capacitance to be used for control devices the second channel is amplified and sent through a spark gap that is then conducted to ground through a very large coil. This has another coil inside to created huge current movements via the induction of the spikes shunted to the ground. This shunt has two ground connections via each end of the inner coil. Or it could look like this as well.


 

 Wow someone translated the yard version nice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq76CQapyI

 After watching the whole thing I still think I'm off a bit. The grounds can be replaced with a circuit as TK said. But something that got me was that TK said that there is a auto resonance tuner in the blue box?>? What that is is a mystery. But it can't be that hard to figure out.

 
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 06:29:01 PM by jbignes5 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14186 on: September 28, 2012, 05:35:27 PM »
Here is translation of some of Melnichenco work.. ;)

So, there it is! Terrific finding! :D

Why has no one here read the Indian newspaper The Hindu, Science & Technology Supplement, November 20, 1997 on page 1 of this thread but on page 948?? Seems half of the world knows about the principle of work of free electric resonant energy since decades, hence we are the last (stupid) ones who still search for it in this forum. >:( :(

Now I will try experimenting with a motor instead of an incandescent lamp. Lamps come afterwards.

Melnichenko was frequently pointed to in this thread years ago, his site is down by now

His site is down by now, because Melnichenko was frequently pointed to in this thread?

Quick and great job by the FBI. 8) 8)

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« Reply #14187 on: September 28, 2012, 09:04:28 PM »

 This might help a lot to understand Tesla's methods:


 http://prometheus.al.ru/english/phisik/onichelson/physics.htm

AS well there has to be adjustments to my schematic now seeing that there are two transistors that are talked about in the backyard presentation. These are probably used in a cascade style to feed the flat wound pancake coil in the blue box and the diodes I show going back to the source battery must be removed. This was the capacitance/inductance auto resonator for the load. 

« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 10:12:16 PM by jbignes5 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14188 on: September 28, 2012, 10:55:56 PM »
So, there it is! Terrific finding! :D
...
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His site is down by now, because Melnichenko was frequently pointed to in this thread?

Quick and great job by the FBI. 8) 8)

Here is probably the right video (needs translation):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_EjFWpHiLY&feature=related


and the other one (with transcript):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYwTVN4orqw&feature=related

triblet --> core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14189 on: September 28, 2012, 11:50:15 PM »
There is one problem, I can't see an E-core divided with a dielectric split in the image of the green transformer. This green transformer looks pristine to me.

But what I can see is, the alligator clamps and wires are fitted with red and blue markings. Why?

Is this not AC but DC, therefore the polarity does matter? It can't be smooth DC either, because it is connected in series with capacitors. So as it seems the output of this Melnichenko inverter is pulsed DC or AC with DC bias. Thus the question is, a) what waveform has the blue Kapanadze inverter, and b) what could be the difference if a transformer runs with pulsed DC (full-wave rectification) instead of AC?

 

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