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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12581329 times)

Offline Vortex1

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14160 on: September 27, 2012, 11:56:57 AM »
br549:

If your HV pulse generator is AC line driven (mains step up transformer), try putting a HV diode in front of the spark gap so that firing is synced to the positive peak of the AC line. This will eliminate firing on negative peaks and synchronize firing to positive peaks only.

If the HV is from an unsynced inverter driven HV supply, you can add an ionization trigger to the spark gap to sync it with the line peaks.

Edit: I see you are using DC HVsupply so to sync you will need ionization trigger from mains frequency or HV avalanche gate triggered from mains frequency.

I have seen a binary snap to resonance effect similar to this when using ferrite cores driven to saturation. This was in a pi network configuration driven from a signal generator. The snap on / snap off resonance effect is a function of the change of inductance with a saturated core.

In effect the system is off resonance (state 1) until the core is saturated with external pulse or magnet, then the inductance changes and the system enters tuned resonance (state 2).

It is interesting that the resonant condition can ride on top of the saturated core without resetting it. This is probably due to the sharp non-linearity of the inductance at the knee.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 01:42:33 PM by Vortex1 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14161 on: September 27, 2012, 12:31:02 PM »
@verpies

You are right. A single HV pulse would not last for so many cycles, but, maybe, just maybe..., the generated bigger voltage would keep the core into and out of saturation, for those many cycles, extending the effect. It is just a wild guess...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14162 on: September 27, 2012, 01:06:06 PM »
@br549

Probably what you are getting is true parametric amplification. The magnets "polarize" the core close to the knee of the magnetization curve. The high voltage pulse forces the core into the low permeability region of the curve ( saturation), changing the inductance of the transformer.

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@verpies

You are right. A single HV pulse would not last for so many cycles, but, maybe, just maybe..., the generated bigger voltage would keep the core into and out of saturation, for those many cycles, extending the effect. It is just a wild guess...

I think Black_Bird has it right with these posts.

From verpies;

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Wait!  Core saturation would not last for several cycles after the pulse.
IMHO the core "remembers" too long that it has been hit with that high voltage pulse.

At first I thought the same, then I remembered tests I have run and noticed the binary states available. Actually it will remember the saturated core state indefinitely, with no decay unless brought out of saturation with a large negative pulse. Counterintuitive yet true. It is nearly the same as early computer core memories, except this works with resonance instead of static magnetic polarization.

My investigation was on this site:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=26.0

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14162 on: September 27, 2012, 01:06:06 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14163 on: September 27, 2012, 02:50:18 PM »
PS: In the Aq2, we can see two transformers in the back section.

In the 2004 device you have two black heat sinks with only TWO WIRES going to each. There is no black wire we cannot see. Only two wires.
This needs more investigation.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14164 on: September 27, 2012, 03:46:38 PM »
Can somebody translate into English?

У меня вопрос.
Читая теорию по резонансу, в частности по резонансу напряжений, где написано что на индуктивности напряжение опережает ток на пи/2.
Активная мощность P (active power = real power =true power) измеряется в ваттах (Вт, W) и это та мощность, которая потребляется электрическим сопротивлением системы на тепло и полезную работу. Для сетей переменного тока:

P=U*I*cosφ, где U и I - действующие=эффективные=среднеквадратичные значения напряжения и тока, а φ- сдвиг фаз между ними

Реактивная мощность Q (reactive power) измеряется в вольт-амперах реактивных (вар, var) и это электромагнитная мощность, которая запасается и отдается обратно в сеть колебательным контуром системы. Реактивная мощность в идеале не выполняет работы, т.е. название вводит в заблуждение. Легко догадаться глядя на рисунок, что:

P=U*I*sinφ, где U и I - действующие=эффективные=среднеквадратичные значения напряжения и тока, а φ- сдвиг фаз между ними

cos(пи/2)=0
sin(пи/2)=1
Отсюда на индуктивности реактивная мощность равна произведению напряжения на ток и максимальна, а активная равна 0.
Пишут что реактивная мощность в идеале не выполняет работы, но в лекциях по ТОЭ опять же пишут что при резонансе горят трансформаторы и индуктивности и другие страшные вещи.
Отсюда возник вопрос: если реактивная мощность в идеале не выполняет работы, то почему горят трансформаторы?
Или я не правильно всё понимаю?

Что ещё интересно.
Кто нибудь когда-то вникал в способ компенсации реактивной мощности?
А что это такое? Например пишут:
"В электрических цепях при чисто активной нагрузке протекающий ток не опережает и не запаздывает от напряжения. При индуктивной нагрузке ток отстает от напряжения, при емкостной - опережает напряжение. При работе электродвигателей, компрессоров, электромагнитов и др., что наиболее типично для большинства потребителей нагрузка имеет индуктивный характер и в общей потребляемой мощности присутствует реактивная мощность. В этом случае снижается коэффициент мощности и для его повышения необходимо подключать емкостную нагрузку, которая компенсирует индуктивную составляющую. Результирующая нагрузка приближается к чисто активной и коэффициент мощности приобретает максимальное значение."
Т.е. нагрузка-индуктивность. Посмотрим как включаются конденсаторы для компенсации реактивной мощности
Добавим на схему нагрузку-индуктивность
Фактически у нас образовался параллельный колебательный контур!!!
What they write about parallel tuned circuit:

The resistance of the tank circuit to the source of vibration will be purely active. That is not, nor provyalyatsya capacitive or inductive component. And the phase shift between current and voltage will be absent.

  At the same time, the current through the inductor will lag the voltage by 90 degrees. A current capacity bude leads the voltage on the same 90 degrees. Thus, the current in the circuit reactive elements are shifted in phase by 180 degrees apart.

И что теперь сказать?!
В нагрузке индуктивности гуляет реактивный ток, но он не работает?! ;)
« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 04:48:32 PM by bass »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14164 on: September 27, 2012, 03:46:38 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14165 on: September 27, 2012, 03:58:58 PM »
Post by "bass" translated by Google translate.. ;) :D

I have a question.
Reading on the resonance theory, in particular the resonance voltage, where it says that the inductor current to power ahead of pi / 2.
Active power P (active power = real power = true power) is measured in watts (W, W) and it is this power that is consumed by the electrical resistance of the heat and useful work. For ac:

P = U * I * cosφ, where U and I - action = efficiency = rms voltage and current, and φ-phase shift between them

Reactive power Q (reactive power) is measured in volt-amperes reactive (var, var) and an electromagnetic power, which is stored and given back to the grid oscillator circuit system. Reactive power ideally does not work, that is the name is misleading. It is easy to guess looking at the picture, that:

P = U * I * sinφ, where U and I - action = efficiency = rms voltage and current, and φ-phase shift between them

cos (pi / 2) = 0
sin (pi / 2) = 1
Hence, on the inductive reactive power is equal to the product of current and voltage is maximum, and the active is 0.
They write that the reactive power in the ideal does not work, but in his lectures on TBE again write that at resonance burning transformers and inductors, and other terrible things.
Hence the question: if the reactive power in the ideal does not work, why burn transformers?
Or I do not understand it all right?

What else is interesting.
Has anyone ever delved into the way of the reactive power compensation?

And what it is. For example write:
"The circuits with purely resistive load current is flowing ahead and lagging the voltage. With inductive load current lags the voltage, the capacitance - leads the voltage. When the electric motors, compressors, solenoids, etc., the most typical of most consumer load inductive and has a total power consumption of reactive power is present. in this case decreases the power factor and to improve it, you should connect a capacitive load, which compensates for the inductive component. resulting load approaches the pure active power factor and takes the maximum value. "
Ie load-inductance. Let's see how to include capacitors for power factor correction
Add to the circuit inductance of the load-
In fact, we have formed a parallel tuned circuit!
Now what say?
In the load inductance walks reactive current, but it does not work?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14166 on: September 27, 2012, 04:02:57 PM »
27Bubba
Thanks :)

If we compare where Kapanadze remembered Melnichenko, then at that time on the Internet and on television was just the video where Melnichenko is powered by battery-inverter a homemade fan connected to it via a capacitor (ie created series resonance using the inductance of the motor windings).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPm_TbwmwU4

Kapanadze said - Melnichenko should develop his idea. And according to this idea, in my opinion, went Kapanadze.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14167 on: September 27, 2012, 04:40:06 PM »
QUOTE:
I would like more details on your setup, mainly the transformers (specs, source) and the HV DC source providing 2000v.
You don't show the polarity of the HV DC supply, what is the polarity?

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- As far as the HV polarity: It only work one way. If you don't get the effect one way, then just swap the
   polarity. If needed I can do a drawing showing the transformer wire colors and connections (of the one I
   am using) . As far as the HV supply, I am using a 2000 vdc supply.  It takes about 1 second for the
   power supply to recharge to 2000 volts and discharge across the spark gap,  So I get a HV pulse about
   one time per. second. Currently  I just am letting it randomly spark, and eventually it sparks at the right
   time.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14168 on: September 27, 2012, 05:03:22 PM »
It seems to me that br549 experiment and Dally device have a lot in common:

Both use an excited resonant transformer.
Both use a high voltage pulse to obtain the result.

The main difference is that  br549 device uses an iron core while Dally's uses air core.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14169 on: September 27, 2012, 09:02:58 PM »
The circuit I tested this morning shown below is a simplified version of br549's circuit.

I was able to get the same waveforms, and upon close inspection, the distorted waveform shows the transformer goes in and out of saturation.

All that is needed is a DC bias on the core to nudge it into saturation, the pulse does exactly that.

If no further pulses are applied it will snap  back to the low brightness state after a second or two.

Power drain shows a marked increase when in saturation and the transformer hums. (don't leave it on too long it will burn out)

You can test the circuit without the HV DC supply, and simply use a diode and resistor to bias the core as is commonly used in magamp control. A brief touch will bias the core into saturation.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14170 on: September 27, 2012, 09:18:22 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14171 on: September 27, 2012, 09:47:58 PM »
@vortex1

Great job!

Do you have some waveforms to show us?

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« Reply #14172 on: September 28, 2012, 12:24:27 AM »
The main difference is that  br549 device uses an iron core while Dally's uses air core.
I think that coreless (air core) devices have less chance of being real functional devices than iron. ferrite or copper core devices.
Nonfunctional devices make good distractions from the real McCoy.

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« Reply #14173 on: September 28, 2012, 12:31:26 AM »
If no further pulses are applied it will snap  back to the low brightness state after a second or two.
The core goes out of saturation on every non-peak input current (and certainly at the zero-crossings of the input current, 2 times per cycle)
In a 50Hz sinewave, the zero-crossings occur every 10ms  -  not 1s.
2sec is 200x too long to go out of saturation.

Maybe the capacitors are charging up and release their energy later...but in AC?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14174 on: September 28, 2012, 12:43:37 AM »



 I have to agree with verpies on this. It sounds like the caps are ringing back and forth with each other.

 

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