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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12595519 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14040 on: September 20, 2012, 02:58:59 AM »
DALLY ...
DALLY fack.jpg (553.51 kB, 900x675 - viewed 192 times.)
I think you meant "Dally Fake.jpg". 
Yes, it is possible to smuggle wires inside the braid and even use the strands of the braid itself to smuggle power via high voltage.
I would be glad to discuss it further in the in the Dally thread. Just click here...   Let's not pollute this Kapanadze thread with the Dally device (even if they are cousins).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14041 on: September 20, 2012, 02:16:08 PM »




 Lets now look at the waves and impulses and how they work with both fields.


 Here is an excellent book that might shed some light on the subject:


http://archive.org/details/ElectricDischargesWavesAndImpulses

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14042 on: September 20, 2012, 05:15:35 PM »



 one thing that might help to understand this process is what other scientists are starting to realize. This is of the electric nature of the sun that I posted previously and here is a small clip of another related document talking about where the real power of the sun comes from.


 "Qualitatively, at least, it would appear that the physical characteristics and the behavior of photospheric granules are responsive to explanation in terms of the anode-tuft hypothesis. The photosphere as a whole seems to add up to yet another strong indication that the Sun draws its energy not from within itself but from its cosmic environment, and that the delivery mechanism is an electric discharge embracing the entire solar system."

 This one statement says it all if we are to understand the method nature uses to power itself. This electric discharge is not unlike what Tesla and TK used. The instantaneous network that gets provided by the electric discharge is the highway from free charges to be draw into the sun to be used and recycled back into radiative energy. It sets up a cycle and anything in the way will get charged and held into orbit if it's mass is sufficient in solar space. This charging creates a great many effects and is solely responsible for gravity like interactions in that space. If the mass is not sufficient to hold that energizing radiations then it re re-radiates it back into the environment and most likely gets sucked back into the sun.

 I know this is about a device but the similarities of the processes is much closer then the appear when comparing the two objects(TK device/Sun). Just different amounts of masses and magnitudes.


OMG... you just stated something I saw a few days ago in a 3 hour movie. Sadly this movie is only in german language available. You can look it here: [size=78%]http://www.viaveto.de/plasmaverse.html[/size]


The describtion of a electric selfsustaining universe is far more convincing then any other theory about dark matter, invisible matter, black holes and mathematic modells which nobody understands. Nature works simple not complicated.  :P
But governments and science fight with full force against this theory. Of course they do, if people would realize the implications of this nobody would need any power companies or oil criminals.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14043 on: September 20, 2012, 05:30:31 PM »
But I was referring to the use for which it was built these transformers is the only way
to know the electrical characteristics.
The same question about the characteristics regarding the 2004 transformer:

Assumed that this transformer was build-out from an apparatus that was switchable between 110V and 220V input. What could that mean?

Could that mean the transformer in the 2004 video operates in reversed mode? The primary coil (right side) was originally the input from grid (110V or 220V), therefore all three wires are heavily insulated (hot side), and the secondary coil (left side) was in fact the 220V output (cold side)? Hence the diode bridge seems to be for high voltage and the capacitor is most likely also a high voltage type (around 300 to 400V)? In aquarium II the one visible transistor is a KD502 for max. 60V, but in the 2004 and the green box video there is no way (to the best of my knowledge) to tell what transistors are actually on the heat sinks. They could be high voltage output stage types for TV flyback (like BU208, 700V).

Now if the transformer has no low voltage output (e.g. 12 to 24V etc.) then there can't be any sophisticated electronics like a LM566 (Voltage Controlled Oscillator) in the tin can (there is no room for a second 50Hz transformer along with a second diode bridge along with a second filter capacitor along with a VCO circuit right next to high voltage) in order to generate any high frequency (thus one thing less to worry about). This means the high frequency is generated by the high voltage generator (flyback?) itself. If the high voltage fails (as seen) the high frequency fails (and the current consumption goes down). If there is neither high voltage nor high frequency but 220V/50Hz only then there is no way the coil (comprising a few turns) can have any effect at all in terms of 50Hz current manipulation (current creation).

So is there really no chance to squeeze 25 amps out of this 50Hz transformer, or is it?

Think we are close - either to complete success or to complete failure ... :) :(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14044 on: September 20, 2012, 05:59:23 PM »
 :D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14045 on: September 20, 2012, 06:06:37 PM »
The same question about the characteristics regarding the 2004 transformer:

Assumed that this transformer was build-out from an apparatus that was switchable between 110V and 220V input. What could that mean?

Could that mean the transformer in the 2004 video operates in reversed mode? The primary coil (right side) was originally the input from grid (110V or 220V), therefore all three wires are heavily insulated (hot side), and the secondary coil (left side) was in fact the 220V output (cold side)? Hence the diode bridge seems to be for high voltage and the capacitor is most likely also a high voltage type (around 300 to 400V)? In aquarium II the one visible transistor is a KD502 for max. 60V, but in the 2004 and the green box video there is no way (to the best of my knowledge) to tell what transistors are actually on the heat sinks. They could be high voltage output stage types for TV flyback (like BU208, 700V).

Now if the transformer has no low voltage output (e.g. 12 to 24V etc.) then there can't be any sophisticated electronics like a LM566 (Voltage Controlled Oscillator) in the tin can (there is no room for a second 50Hz transformer along with a second diode bridge along with a second filter capacitor along with a VCO circuit right next to high voltage) in order to generate any high frequency (thus one thing less to worry about). This means the high frequency is generated by the high voltage generator (flyback?) itself. If the high voltage fails (as seen) the high frequency fails (and the current consumption goes down). If there is neither high voltage nor high frequency but 220V/50Hz only then there is no way the coil (comprising a few turns) can have any effect at all in terms of 50Hz current manipulation (current creation).

So is there really no chance to squeeze 25 amps out of this 50Hz transformer, or is it?

Think we are close - either to complete success or to complete failure ... :) :(


 Well one thing is for sure, the plug he plugs into the inverter and the wall socket on the bench the second time Goes to this transformer. But if you look at your picture there there is a green covered pair going twords the can. That is a parallel connection. So the transformer goes to the diode bridge then somewhere from there as an off shoot. It splits there to go to the can. So whatever is in the can has to deal with an ac signal and that has to be shielded. If you look closely under the welded on tab of metal can you can see Several wires going in and out of the can as well maybe. It's hard to tell because we don't have a really good source of video for the 2004 showing.

 I highly doubt the inverter puts out 220 but it might. So maybe you have it reversed. 120v in 220+v out. Since he plugs the transformer into the inverter or wall outlet on the bench I would suggest that he is saying it doesn't have to be from just the battery or ac source. The interesting thing is once he has the device running from the wall plug he unplugs it. The other interesting thing is that the humm gets huge when plugged into the wall socket on the bench.... Hmmm...
« Last Edit: September 20, 2012, 10:49:22 PM by jbignes5 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14046 on: September 21, 2012, 01:40:13 AM »
The interesting thing is once he has the device running from the wall plug he unplugs it. The other interesting thing is that the humm gets huge when plugged into the wall socket on the bench.... Hmmm...
I would say that the wall plug is an auxiliary connection for the inverter because the inverter provides to less power to start the device. Since the inverter is rated at 400 watts this means the device needs more than 400 watts (1.8A) to start up. The humming sound points to 50Hz as its source not to high frequency. This could mean as long as the humming sound can be heard the 50Hz transformer is somehow not in the right resonance.

BTW, today is the day of the days: »The Keshe Foundation will release the first phase of its space technology ... to all scientists around the world«

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2513

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXSEEuhYJPQ

http://www.overunity.com/12522/this-could-be-the-end/

What will actually happen? I'm afraid nothing will happen - as usual. Technology is released to scientists. The scientists (which are secret) will say it is secret. That's it. :( :(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14047 on: September 21, 2012, 02:20:20 AM »
The 2004 transformer: Could be that the reason there are two sets of wires going in is that we are looking at the feedback loop. ie 220 v 50 hz.
If that is the case then the left side is the L1 coil in his patent. The right part (L2) is then the coil capacitor which emits HV as evidenced by the connections being coated with epoxy resin. The only answer is to build one and see what happens. I have already experienced HV from nowhere when experimenting with 220v  AC and grounding rods.
If I am right, then the coil pack is a HV step down transformer ie the mythical "current amplifier" in his patent.. It's all starting to make sense to me right now
That would also explain the spark gap in aquarium 2. So the electric fire was powered by a mix of 220v 50 hz and (say) 5 KV at 50 hz.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14048 on: September 21, 2012, 02:29:08 AM »
I forgot to add: If I am right, then 5 kv at 50 Hz is where the power comes  out from such a small transformer. The coil pack then steps this down to a couple of kilowatts. It feeds the output with a mix of 220v at 50 Hz and (say) 5 kv at 50 Hz. Most of this power is then used up by the load and the process is recycled.
Now it's starting to add up big time.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14049 on: September 21, 2012, 04:21:55 AM »
I would say that the wall plug is an auxiliary connection for the inverter because the inverter provides to less power to start the device. Since the inverter is rated at 400 watts this means the device needs more than 400 watts (1.8A) to start up. The humming sound points to 50Hz as its source not to high frequency. This could mean as long as the humming sound can be heard the 50Hz transformer is somehow not in the right resonance.

BTW, today is the day of the days: »The Keshe Foundation will release the first phase of its space technology ... to all scientists around the world«

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2513

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXSEEuhYJPQ

http://www.overunity.com/12522/this-could-be-the-end/

What will actually happen? I'm afraid nothing will happen - as usual. Technology is released to scientists. The scientists (which are secret) will say it is secret. That's it. :( :(


 I get the feeling this is a dangerous scam. Think about it. A: You need to pony up a good sum to get one. B: It has a built in gps unit that could not only track it's whereabouts but also detonate the nuclear payload hidden inside. If you know anything about nuclear weapons you would know that the spherical container is a detonation chamber and the gps would be the best way to communicate with the unit to detonate when it is in the right spot.


 I regret to say these things but it is very suspicious to see a design like that. All the pieces are there. and the nuclear material inside would of course power it for a while. This is just my opinion but coming from this man who is Iranian and from reading the forum he has issues with people who have tried to keep these war like people in their own home and only killing their own people.


 I'm not saying Any other country is a saint, especially America but you got to see this as very strange coming from these people. They have made it perfectly clear their intentions about designing the perfect nuclear weapon and this one would fit the bill.


 Everyone is hungry for the answer but anyone who talks about helping humanity out then holds their hand out before doing such is of the wrong motivations. And our experiences with that kind of a method has been riddled with scammers.


 If this process had any validity then why not share it openly and then design ways to protect themselves while they retool. That isn't the plan that is laid out by this guy and his organization. Do some digging and you will see the messages which he writes himself. It's scary. Thats all I will say about this subject.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14050 on: September 21, 2012, 06:37:25 AM »
@Zeitmaschine

First about the long version of the 2004.

I still have not been able to find a way to download that video to see on my VirtualDubMod so I am pissed off for that. I have all the other videos but not this one. I think I need the url to the original post of that video or if someone has it and can put it on a server for me to download.

Looking at the youtube version at....

17:31 When he momentarily plugged the leads that went to the back of the inverter into the mains socket (back plug), yes we see the spark as you say and the amp reads as you say. The set-up is battery - inverter - device.

When he turns on the bulb load, from then on it is impossible to see the spark given the brightness of the bulbs. So it is difficult to say if it is still on or not, but from what I could see the spark went off while the bulbs were lit and you can sense Tariel is trying to distract from that when he starts talking right away. Right there, it is not a good omen for the spark.

Then they connect the looping transformer (LT) to the bulb load and to the battery.
Then when he plugs the back plug into the mains socket to start the spark, they are stunned to see no spark and even try to convince the others that there is a spark when there is no spark. That whole part should be translated verbatim as it is key. You can feel their uneasiness even though you do not understand the language. It could be that the diode plate was not touching well enough the 6 turn coil. Or it could be that the diode plate was touching the 6 turn coil and this is why there was no spark. Either way there was no spark when the bulbs were lit.

So now were are left with a great quandary. A major piss-off because we have all vested so much time with sparks and all the builds on youtube and all the R&D.

This does not render Tariel a fake but will actually reinforce the fact that he may have something so simple and so stupid once we know it, that he is going to great pains to mask it in so many distractions.

The fact still remains that regardless of any distracting features, I have still never seen a Wire X since I always look for both ways. How it could work and how it could be faked. The fact that the spark may be a dud distraction, does not take away from the actual fact that he ran the device without a battery, with that back plug start up, at that time the spark came on (who cares right) and the bulbs were just as lit while looping back. That is an incredible task but now, if we can remove the spark gap as a side design, this now changes the theory and puts it smack dab on that transformer, the two heat sinks, something in the tin can and a possible effect in the TKc.

We know the spark gap was connected by two wires leading into the tin can so we could easily say the tin can contains a small flyback transformer used to create the spark-illusion and the diode plate intermittently touching the spark gap 6 turn coil may have rendered the spark useless. The device was started and ran without a spark. That we cannot deny.

Two switches usually started the device. Switch one is to start the spark illusion and create the distraction. Switch two is turn on the secret and hope no one sees it. hehehe

Oh yeh, I almost forgot. About the 2004 drive transformer.

It looks like a step down. He is connecting the higher resistance side to the inverter so he is using low consumption amps (0.6) at 220v. Then the secondary is step down to probably 220/4 or 55 volts.

The secondary has three terminals. The left one is connected to the wire going to the top of the diode copper shunt plate. The center tap is not used. The right terminal is going to the chassis of the transformer that also holds the diode plate.

Why do I think it is a factor of 4. He showed 6 amps off the battery and 24 amps on the load. That's a factor of four.

But how is he increasing the voltage from 55 volts. With those two heat sinked two wire components and the capacitor. What can you do with two zenors and a cap?

The wires from the 6 turn go inside the tin can. The tin can also receives 220v directly from the inverter (off the transformer primary pins) plus the secondary rectified higher amps of 55 volts. So what happens when you light bulbs with 220volts at .6 amps that is then spiked with 55 volts at 24 amps or a pulsed 55 volts at 24 amps. Maybe some more Havoc. Ahhhhhhhh.

Tariel lives in an area that probably has power failures galore. So people there will have batteries and inverters to make their lights go on. Could be one day he had a transformer connected and something shorted out but he notice the bulbs lit much brighter. With that type of simple effect, and if he wanted to protect such a simple thing, the level of his "Hmmmmm" again an SM type paranoia level was made more and more evident in his ever increasingly glamorous builds.

More fluff,
more pzazz,
more distraction,
will keep the little big secret,
as safe as can be. 

Hmmmmm. Maybe for now I can leave the spark and put both flybacks on the coax.
Tomorrow.

I need the rest of the night off to come to grips with this realizing we may have been wasting a shit load of time. I had to use the s word in the last sentence for personal reasons. lol

wattsup

PS; What's harder, increasing voltage or increasing amps. Maybe the secret is you produce the amps and increase the voltage creates nice havoc soup.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 01:23:40 PM by wattsup »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14051 on: September 21, 2012, 07:31:31 AM »
Hi Wattsup,
 
Wonder if you can spare 5 minutes and have a look at -
 
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11855-eric-dollard-6.html#post209103
 
Don't know why, or maybe because of the Dally stuff, but I see Kapanaze
 
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14052 on: September 21, 2012, 08:13:02 AM »
Hi All,

I have a question everyone please help

One bridge destroyed when the footsteps of every person on the bridge every step count one, two!!!
Correlated to the electrical resonant coil how we do that?


Thank a lot 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14053 on: September 21, 2012, 08:20:07 AM »
Hi All,

I have a question everyone please help

One bridge destroyed when the footsteps of every person on the bridge every step count one, two!!!
Correlated to the electrical resonant coil how we do that?


Thank a lot 

Havuhung

That would be like say a coil of many turns(bridge) and a bunch of small(human compared to bridge)charged capacitors, one for each winding of the coil, and discharge all the caps at the same time, one across each turn of the coil. Bang!!!  ;]


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14054 on: September 21, 2012, 03:01:47 PM »





 Ok at 16:06 you can clearly see that the wires with the plug in it are going to the transformer. We are getting confused here over this one point.


 At 20:19 the battery is still in the equation but it seems to me that this is used for a bias of the ground connections and power the inverter. This is to keep a steady connection for the ground loop that he is about to create with the inverter that he plugs into the wall socket. That part you are correct on an for some reason I got wrong.
 Yes they were concerned with it sparking less but it was sparking. If you look at the timing of him plugin the inverter in to the wall outlet it takes time for it to charge up and once it is going then he unplugs the inverter and the lights are switched on.


 One reason he might have had to plug the inverter in is to add the already existing 50 hz to the inverter's output to synchronize it in a way to the bulbs normal input frequency. I am betting this plug in wires is a modification of the inverter that he had to make to allow syncing with the regular power system. But I'm guessing there.


 I use real player that has a capture video function from youtube or any other source. It is compatible with flv files and I have used it on more then one occasion to copy videos from youtube.

 

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