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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13905 on: September 14, 2012, 03:23:15 PM »
@all
I am in Paris till next Monday but followed the thread via my Android mobile. Please do not get overly caught up in to many distractions. This is a pivotal time and very crucial to keep concentrated.

There is one thing that has bugged me about the blue wire that goes to the triple transformer HV positive. If someone can put up that image again since I cannot with my device, you will notice that there is not any showing on the white coating we should see with normal coax. I think I know why. I think they shorted the outer shield to the center conductor then to hide this they simply stretch the blue outer layer so it covered the.solder connection. If you look carefully you will notice that the.blue.coating is thinner where the center contuctor comes out of the blue opening when compared with the same blue but but an inch away from the end
The only thing this means is that the outer and inner lines of the coax are shorted at the HV+.

Also consider a coax with nice dense shield will provide a good source of parallel capacitance per foot lenght of coax so for around 150 feet of coax you will have enough pf value to provide both a center conductor with its own source of ressonance being at the same time the shielding. The loop should happen between the center line and the shield if at the right frequency to load.

Anyways keep up the good work and I can't wait to be back at my bench.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13906 on: September 14, 2012, 03:32:51 PM »





 Well like I said after thinking about this, that which we seek, Tesla hinted at the power of this method. One real quote comes to mind. "The thin copper wires exploded with the power of dynamite." This is very telling of how Tesla thought of this energy. Can we all agree that this electricity has very high voltage? Can we also agree that this form of electricity has greater ability to switch at faster speeds? If High voltage, High frequency electricity has properties like the static realm then it is entirely possible that it can gather and condense and then explosively discharge into a wire(coil) and quite possibly do more work then was required to manifest it.
 We all know there are free charges everywhere there is heat and light, electric fields seem to be a way to gather and bring those charges into our systems if we design it that way. With the spark gap it is quite possible that we could form an analogy of a gun. With the gap being the bullet chamber and the wire being the barrel which is also attached to the ground or target. Now if we take the wire/barrel and coil it wouldn't that be a way to harness the force of the bullets while not disturbing it's path to ground?  Except for a slowing of the bullet after it has been fired.


 In my quest to find the truth it dawned on me that this is an energizing radiation. All of the reports from Tesla's experiments backs this statement up. That is why I asked for the experiments done by a few here in this thread to be done. Energizing a capacitor to self excite and produce a useful output. It was done and proofed on this thread. Even trough many layers of the capacitor this energizing energy penetrated and excited the layers of the foil capacitor. Well that same method is used by Kapanadze. Call him what you will but he figured it out as well. All his circuit is, is a hairpin circuit wrapped around a solenoid coil. It pumps the coil with the energizing field into current stimulation for any load to use. Light bulbs being the easiest to trick with this system. Solenoid coils have a rather unique ability to polarize energy. With one end being opposite the other. If one side of the coil is 120v then the other end is 1200v. After that it will reverse when the accumulated energy gets sucked back into the solenoid after power is removed. Of course adding an iron core to that makes it have a stronger response. What if this core was circular and around the core is 4 solenoid coils in pairs? This was Tesla's original Idea. He knew copper reacted to this energizing field in a current fashion. It stimulated the copper with a real heavy current. Well Tesla though hey if it is static then it will not work as well and used his principle of generators to form the patent I'll show you here:


 [size=78%]http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-390,721-dynamo-electric-machine[/size]


 I have shown this before but I don't think people understood that this is not an ordinary Motor/Generator. I uses higher voltages for the field coils to stimulate the heavy copper coils in the rotor into real current flow. There is a bit missing from this most simplistic design but this shows that Tesla found this to be a transformer of the new voltage field he discovered into the heavy current that most already had been accustomed to. If the field coils emitted a high voltage field then this device could be turned with ease, even when under stress from a load because the rotor coils were of heavy current design. If it produced a heavy magnetic field, it would cut the field coils and be converted into high voltage again. In effect transforming the heavy magnetic field back into high voltage field which only makes the process work better.


 You have to think like Tesla to understand his methods. He was a high voltage man. That was his life after discovering that new realm and it is the key to understanding his patents in a new light.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13907 on: September 14, 2012, 04:06:06 PM »

Woopy, Itsu and a.king, this is a job for you TODO ASAP :)

 Cheers!



Thanks for the encouragement T, but as i already was experimenting with coax cable coils, i already was intriged by this selfrunner.

I have a hard time understanding the Russian drawings/text etc, but slowly more info is coming in English.

My first attention is to the main coil, and i came up with the following info (all CW):

L1 = 820t 0.25mm on 4.6cm former (white/orange leads)
L2 = 315t 0.65mm on top of L1     (magnet wire leads to caps)
L3 =  41t 5.9m Coax cable        (probably NOT RG58 as to my knowledge RG58 is always black coated)
L4 =  72t                        (combination of brown and blue cable) not sure what thickness.

 
I started building my coil and use:

cardboard former 5cm:
L1 690t 0.4mm  3.3mH / 14.5 ohm
L2 380t 0.6mm  1.5mH /  0.5 ohm
L3  41t (6m) 75 ohm coax shorted at 1 end
L4  i will use 70t of some kind of wire i have laying around.

Questions for me presently are:

How to create this 1-5ns pulse (my FG generates a 80ns pulse at best)
What is the amplitude of this nano pulse (5v?, 500v?, 5Kv?)
What is the frequency/amplitude and pulse shape on the L1 coil (match the resonance frequency of L2 tank coil?)?

Video to be seen here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQUciCy9p3A&feature=youtu.be
I will try to get more to the point in the video's, thus shorther, in the follow ups if any.

Next will be to make some measurements on the coil when pulsed.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13908 on: September 14, 2012, 04:12:04 PM »
Machine translation of the Melnichenko patent (WO/2003/061110) as mentioned here on p. 336

METHOD FOR ENERGY GENERATION BY MEANS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES AND DEVICE FOR CARRYING OUT SAID METHOD (VARIANTS)

Field of technology

The claimed invention relates to energy and electrical engineering and can be used to create a stand-alone power plants or their parts, power supplies, generators and heat.

Background Art

There is a method of energy generation, which consists in the fact that the receiver delivers the energy transferred by a special transmitter (see U.S. Patent N ° 645578 Tesla on March 20, 1900). The disadvantage of this method is that generated by the receiver electromagnetic energy has a positive increment.

In addition, a process of power generation on the basis of the same unit consists in the fact that the receiver delivers the energy transferred by a special transducer (U.S. Patent N ° 649621 Tesla on May 15, 1900). The drawback of the solution is also a fact that generated by the receiver electromagnetic energy has a positive increment.

Technical result, which is aimed at achieving the claimed invention is to allow the generation of additional power to the abstracted from the primary source of energy. This technical result is achieved by the fact that the method of addition of the interference of waves on the load in the presence of electromagnetic waves guiding systems, or the method of the prior accumulation of energy of electromagnetic waves in the drive, with subsequent release of the load.

Disclosure of invention

Way of generating energy on the electromagnetic waves is a process in which the electromagnetic waves from one or more emitters in phase work in a single load, or first accumulated in the storage (Volumetric or other cavity, coaxial or waveguide line, or in the form of standing waves in the coils, wires, and other types of feeder lines), and then sent to a load. Load may serve as a reception area, transmitting antenna, resistance, straightening rektenna absorbing dielectric, such as water, etc. To generate the load adds the amplitudes of electromagnetic waves (superposition principle), and the energy of the electromagnetic field is proportional to the square of the amplitude of the total field. The energy of electromagnetic waves is a non-additive (arithmetic does not add up) quantity, so the load of the energy released is proportional to the square of the amplitude of the total, which is more than the energy of the incident electromagnetic waves each individually. The load is in-phase addition of the amplitudes of waves. The load can be used absorbent dielectric-transfer medium (eg, water), passing through the waveguide or other part of the feeder line, or straightening rektennu, resistance, or the receiving antenna (pins and hinges coaxial wave transitions, etc.), power transmission in the feeder link.

In the case of electromagnetic waves of accumulation and storage, energy storage in the same proportional to the square of the amplitude of the electric and magnetic fields, that is, (at very low loss), total square of the amplitude of the waves that are included in the drive from the generator. Electromagnetic wave energy policy non-additive, that is not summed arithmetically, so the energy in the store is growing faster than is consumed in the drive from the generator (with small losses in the drive).

Device implementing a method of generating energy on the electromagnetic waves, which is a process in which the electromagnetic waves from one or more emitters in phase work in a single load, in general, consists of one or more of electromagnetic waves with emitters, power dividers and feeder lines, in which two or more emitters of electromagnetic waves simultaneously work on a single load, and the radiators are located around the load, or radiation from different emitters concentrated on load through reflectors or lenses.

Said device features the following realization:

1.1. The device, in which the waveguide (wire, strip, coaxial and other types of feeder lines), the load is in addition of the amplitudes of two (or more) back-to-traveling electromagnetic waves that fall on both sides of the load. Load, in this case, is located between the emitters.

1.2. The device, which is implemented on the basis of the cavity in which the emitters are arranged relative to the load so that the load is in addition of the amplitudes of electromagnetic waves from transmitters and reflected electromagnetic waves, for example, the emitters are located on different sides of the load inside the cavity.

1.3. The device, which are connected to a generator or generators of electromagnetic wave emitters are a system of η-th number of narrowly focused (eg, horn) antennas operating in phase with the total load on all sides.

1.4. The device, which is implemented on the basis of the width of the waveguide in many wavelengths, in which emitters are arranged in a row across the waveguide, the concentration of electromagnetic waves at the load is achieved by a gradual narrowing of the waveguide in the load or geometric hub or hubs (mirror or mirrors, particular parabolic reflectors), or lenses that focus the electromagnetic wave to the load.

The best embodiment of the device

The best is the version of the device referred to in clause 1.2. This device operates as follows:

Electromagnetic energy passing from the generator through a power divider is fed to the radiators located inside the cavity. The load is also inside the cavity. Electromagnetic waves from transmitters and reflected from the walls of the cavity in phase interfere with the load, and the load is in addition of the amplitudes of electromagnetic waves. This device is the best location of radiators from different sides of the load.

In addition, the inventive method can be implemented using a different version of the device that implements a method of generating energy on the electromagnetic waves, which is a process in which the electromagnetic waves from one or more emitters first accumulate in the tank (or other bulk resonator, resonance coil or resonating part of the feed line, such as the length of the waveguide, coaxial, strip or wire line, etc.), and then sent to the load, in general, consists of one or more of electromagnetic waves with emitters, power dividers and feeder lines, direct drive and switch. In this case, the drive is connected to a generator of electromagnetic waves through a feeder line, or through a special agent. Load through feeder line is connected to the drive (for example, to the ends of the resonant coil) through the switch-switch. A switch can perform the switch based on transistors, ΡΙΝ-diodes, gas discharge punches, ferrite or ferroelectric gate controlled valves.

The device works in a two-phase mode. In the first phase, there is an accumulation of electromagnetic waves that are included in the cavity of the generator of electromagnetic waves, and switch-to-switch prevents the allocation of wave energy in the load. In the second phase, after the accumulation of electromagnetic waves, the switch-to-switch ceases to impede the energy of electromagnetic waves in the load, in this case, the accumulation of electromagnetic waves can be paused for a moment before resuming the switching of the first phase.

This version of the device features the following realization:

2.1. Device in which the generator through the feeder link or agent is connected to a cavity resonator, which in the feeder link (coaxial, waveguide, or wire, etc.) and a switch (based on transistors, ΡΙΝ-diodes, etc.) load is connected, the switch changes the impedance of the feed line, the load itself, or parts of it.

2.2. The device, in which the load is placed directly in the cavity, or is part of the cavity, or the load itself is a storage of electromagnetic waves, while periodically changing the resistance (impedance) of the load itself, or parts of it due to its physical properties (nonlinear resistance load), or due to external or internal control impedance.

The best embodiment of the device

The best is the version of the device referred to in section 2.1. This device operates as follows: Electromagnetic waves coming from the generator to the drive (resonator) that a standing electromagnetic wave whose amplitude is in the ideal case (loss) by the sum of the amplitudes of electromagnetic waves that are included in the cavity. In the first phase, there is an accumulation of electromagnetic waves that are included in the cavity of the generator of electromagnetic waves, and switch-to-switch prevents the allocation of wave energy in the load. In the second phase, after the accumulation of electromagnetic waves, the switch-commutators ceases to impede the energy of electromagnetic waves in the load, in this case, the accumulation of electromagnetic waves can be paused for a moment before resuming the switching of the first phase.

Industrial Applicability

Way of generating energy on the electromagnetic waves and the device for its implementation can be implemented based on the existing technology of microwave and UHF (magnetrons, klystrons, amlitrony, waveguides, feeders, etc.).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13909 on: September 14, 2012, 04:14:25 PM »




 Well like I said after thinking about this, that which we seek, Tesla hinted at the power of this method.


Great description jbibnes5,  8)
I feel it but don't see yet.


In my understanding we should use:
1. HV on stator coils with good insulator
2. we can recalculate coils with large number of turns - we will have large amount of Magnetic field (from many turns) and electrostatic field (from HV power supply)


Ok what about frequency (50 to 400Hz) it will be correct? And on there should be AC current or pulsed DC?
could you draw some picture?


Regards
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13910 on: September 14, 2012, 04:26:49 PM »
http://www.antenna-theory.com/tutorial/txline/transmission6.php

 related to current thoughts on standing waves, a good starting point for the required math and transmission line theory. Wasn't Tariel working in power (power company or something similar)? This would be right up his alley then wouldn't it?

SO his solution is to choose a length of coax, short it at one end and pulse with appropriate width sq waves that will setup a standing wave and then use that field to supplement the lower frequency one on the adjacent coil. the only problem I see is that nano second pulses place the frequency of the generator at 40 to 200 mhz, this depends on full wave vs qtr wave. I am sure we can use a feedback signal to trigger the pulser to maintain resonance (timing).


So I am seeing this using the following

AC inverter - used to provide DC voltage (300 to 400vdc) via rectifier and capacitor. We need high energy pulses to generate the standing wave field

Simple kacher type transistor circuit using feedback to trigger pulsing (syncronized)? I am thinking this can be simple like the Kacher circuit using the ground to trigger the transistor, would be another small coil too.

Coil construction as I see it

Resonant tank (LC) inner layer, tuned to work with transmission line frequency
Inductor wind for inducing 60hz AC as the carrier frequency
COAX transmission line length chosen to work with drive frequency
Output coil (in line with hot side of AC inverter?)
feedback coil for pulser source

Just some of my thoughts on this, going to play with this soon as well.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13911 on: September 14, 2012, 05:22:13 PM »

Thanks for the encouragement T, but as i already was experimenting with coax cable coils, i already was intriged by this selfrunner.

I have a hard time understanding the Russian drawings/text etc, but slowly more info is coming in English.

My first attention is to the main coil, and i came up with the following info (all CW):

L1 = 820t 0.25mm on 4.6cm former (white/orange leads)
L2 = 315t 0.65mm on top of L1     (magnet wire leads to caps)
L3 =  41t 5.9m Coax cable        (probably NOT RG58 as to my knowledge RG58 is always black coated)
L4 =  72t                        (combination of brown and blue cable) not sure what thickness.

 
I started building my coil and use:

cardboard former 5cm:
L1 690t 0.4mm  3.3mH / 14.5 ohm
L2 380t 0.6mm  1.5mH /  0.5 ohm
L3  41t (6m) 75 ohm coax shorted at 1 end
L4  i will use 70t of some kind of wire i have laying around.

Questions for me presently are:

How to create this 1-5ns pulse (my FG generates a 80ns pulse at best)
What is the amplitude of this nano pulse (5v?, 500v?, 5Kv?)
What is the frequency/amplitude and pulse shape on the L1 coil (match the resonance frequency of L2 tank coil?)?

Video to be seen here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQUciCy9p3A&feature=youtu.be
I will try to get more to the point in the video's, thus shorther, in the follow ups if any.

Next will be to make some measurements on the coil when pulsed.

Regards Itsu

Great start Itsu. I agree with you about the co-ax but its worth waiting to see if any further comments are made about this before finishing coils. Do you or others have any ideas about the nature of the toroid transformer? The schematic indicates a ferrite core but I'm thinking that this is an iron cored toroid transformer with a 12V secondary and two 120V primaries working in a normal reverse inverter configuration.

I too was baffled by the blue wire coil on the RHS end of the coil former. Looking at the end of the former in photo DALY 08, it appears that its not just a straightforward single coil wind as there can be seen two sharp bends in two of the coil strands and possibly two layers of wire?

This certainly seems a much better experimental project to spend time on and learn something, than continuing to concentrate on trying to work out how TK's Aqua2 device is constructed and powered.

Hoppy


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13912 on: September 14, 2012, 05:42:01 PM »

Great description jbibnes5,  8)
I feel it but don't see yet.


In my understanding we should use:
1. HV on stator coils with good insulator
2. we can recalculate coils with large number of turns - we will have large amount of Magnetic field (from many turns) and electrostatic field (from HV power supply)


Ok what about frequency (50 to 400Hz) it will be correct? And on there should be AC current or pulsed DC?
could you draw some picture?


Regards
frantz


 The picture is in the link I provided. The unit that Tesla designed has High voltage on the external field coils only. This outer field coil is his special transformer that is pictured in this patent as well:


 [size=78%]http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-381,970-electrical-distribution[/size]


If you start with the voltage from the exciter from patent 1 I showed and it goes through both solenoid coils on the second patent it will raise itself to a very high voltage. All of the magnetic component is kept inside the iron in the core so there is little magnetic field outside of that core. Only the electric field is allowed to be free inside of the circular coil. This is the field that is responsible for pumping the current in the heavier rotor core. Any magnetic field from that generation will of course try to enter the field core and cut the windings of the field coils generating more voltage and hence more electric field. But as the rotor is cut by the electric field it causes a massive movement of current in the rotor wires and could be used to power a motor attached to the rotor becoming a prime mover for the unit. This is shown in the first patent but as a separate unit. It doesn't have to be separate at all. In fact this whole patent can and should be integrated into one unit.
 You have the exciter(small generator), field core and rotor unit (big generator) and the prime mover all on the same shaft. setup to turn in the opposite direction that the field coils are designed to move in(rotating field). This gives you better results from slower speeds. But you might have to raise the voltage going from the exciter to field coils via a small transformer.


 The field coils in my opinion are done the way they are because of the phase angle of the magnetic field. This was our mistake. It is made that way for a reason. Because the electric field and maghnetic fields work on different angles. They are never the same angles. In our modern motors and generators they were designed with the magnetic field angle which results in massive losses and huge resistance to movement. In Tesla's generator there is little loss because of higher voltages and the magnetic field is bound to a circular ring. Since the electric field is not bound by the iron it plays freely with the iron and copper rotor. In the case of Tesla's original patent #1 I showed he had to check or Stop the rotor of the generator to get it to generate. In my version the motor does that all by itself and turnsd the rotor in the opposite direction to the revolving electric field via the prime mover.


 This is the design I'm going with. I have about 3/4 of the stuff I need and only need a few things more to complete the parts list. Since I am heading twords disabled condition it is getting hard for me to be able to work on the rest of it. So it is taking me way longer then I expected to complete the unit but I am still working on it.


 Remember if this energy is static then we are doing this in futility and hence why others have failed at this because they are not trying to design it in a dynamic way. It must be dynamic and it must be to our advantage using common techniques to gain that advantage. A motor/generator is extremely advantageous to our way of life. We need both energy and motive power and this does both. This is what powered his roadster, not some remote power station. He abolished that idea when they destroyed his life because they could not meter it. This was proven by Tesla in 1932 I believe in his experiment with the roadster.

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« Reply #13913 on: September 14, 2012, 08:25:52 PM »

 The picture is in the link I provided. The unit that Tesla designed has High voltage on the external field coils only. This outer field coil is his special transformer that is pictured in this patent as well:




Well, jbignes5,
You are great! In fact, we still had and we have ready solution inside Tesla patents!
Main question is how high should be HV? 1kV or 30kV or how much? We must remember about balance between electrostatic field and magnetic field. If we want to create rotating magnetic field inside circular ring of generator we must to have some minimal current inside stator coils.


One thing is certain for me: stator windings (on the circular ring) should be build from many turns and from thin wire with good insulating between layers (but what about internal resistance of winding??? we should to find some balance).


jbignes5, how do you thing, in my opinion circular ring transformer in fact is stepdown transformer. If yes, rotor should have HV coils too. What about heavy current in rotor? There we have both? Heavy current and HV?
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« Reply #13914 on: September 14, 2012, 09:30:03 PM »


 No, in fact you want heavy current coils in the rotor. There is two reasons for that. One is that it creates a magnetic field to cut the field coils around the rotor and the second reason is most of our current devices run on heavy current. The transformer action is between the high voltage field coils and the heavy current coils of the rotor. You are right it steps down the high voltage in that action. But the electric field of the field coils is textured. What I mean is it acts like it has many many poles from the coils that are wound around the field core. The magnetic field gets sucked up by the core and stays inside of that core if it is made thick enough.


 My cores, I say cores because I had to split the circular ring into two halves, has soft iron bent into two half circles and when they are together will make a toroid. I'm thinking I'll make the motor/generator in a clam shell like design and the cores once energized will hold themselves together like a PMH (permanent magnetic holder) from Ed Leedskalnin fame.


 The high voltage will have to be worked out still because the exciter will only be able to put out so much current to convert to high voltage. I'm sure it will need to be in the range of 2k-15k volts depending on the current needed to be generated in the rotor. But from what I am understanding of the process Tesla could get any amount of voltage out of his disruptive discharge circuit and that is what will have to be in between the exciter and field coils.


  You say there has to be a balance between the magnetic and electric field but I say when dealing with the electric field there is very little magnetic field at play. This is why it can go huge distances without losses. This is why the electric companies use transformers in their current system. They are only there to get rid of the magnetic field and it's huge losses and convert it to the electric field which has little losses unless something is there to strip off some of the field.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13915 on: September 14, 2012, 09:42:47 PM »
Hi jbignes5,

I may be slightly off the mark but given what you've just described, I think that you may be interested in the work of UFOpolitics at Energetic Forum http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11885-my-asymmetric-electrodynamic-machines.html.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13916 on: September 15, 2012, 02:42:53 AM »

Thanks for the encouragement T, but as i already was experimenting with coax cable coils, i already was intriged by this selfrunner.

I have a hard time understanding the Russian drawings/text etc, but slowly more info is coming in English.

My first attention is to the main coil, and i came up with the following info (all CW):

L1 = 820t 0.25mm on 4.6cm former (white/orange leads)
L2 = 315t 0.65mm on top of L1     (magnet wire leads to caps)
L3 =  41t 5.9m Coax cable        (probably NOT RG58 as to my knowledge RG58 is always black coated)
L4 =  72t                        (combination of brown and blue cable) not sure what thickness.

 
I started building my coil and use:

cardboard former 5cm:
L1 690t 0.4mm  3.3mH / 14.5 ohm
L2 380t 0.6mm  1.5mH /  0.5 ohm
L3  41t (6m) 75 ohm coax shorted at 1 end
L4  i will use 70t of some kind of wire i have laying around.

Questions for me presently are:

How to create this 1-5ns pulse (my FG generates a 80ns pulse at best)
What is the amplitude of this nano pulse (5v?, 500v?, 5Kv?)
What is the frequency/amplitude and pulse shape on the L1 coil (match the resonance frequency of L2 tank coil?)?

Video to be seen here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQUciCy9p3A&feature=youtu.be
I will try to get more to the point in the video's, thus shorther, in the follow ups if any.

Next will be to make some measurements on the coil when pulsed.

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu

Finally one serious man and serious researcher. I will help you with replication. In fact this is more research than replication coz there are many replicators and so litle researchers. Btw we on http://realstrannik.ru have big problems with KAPANADZE TROLLS (many of them are FROM KAPANADZE TEAM TROLLS) and OTHER TROLLS AND SPIES including flooders and spamers coz NO ONE GOVERNEMENT WANT FREE ENERGY DEVICE TO BE RELEASED. BUT will see. All options are in GAME opened and hidden. Will see !!

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Problem was, Dalley oscillograph was burned in experiments so he wait deliver for new one oscillograph from China. I think will be some of 100MHz bandwidth dual channel oscillograph with accesories. So when oscillograph come will be complete measurements of all signals and signal envelopes. Dalley don't want to involve to many people in his project so other people oscillograph will not be used which is his smart move.

 
The time untill  oscillograph come from China can be used for making and experimenting with Nano Pulser, VCO (Voltage controled oscillator) and main Oscillator.

Dalley can't give all 100% specification coz he need to remove all windings and to precise measure all lenght and number of turns. So his decision is to make new one and original save like a sample for further research.

Antanas gave me a link and i was watching your video so i have seen you need some little help. And probably many other serious researchers so i write this message.

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Coil Data:

About Coax. Coax is an original 50 om impedance, old Computer Local Area Network LAN coax. I give a specification for 50 Om RG58, coz it have the same impedance of 50 om, but i am sure you can use 75 om coax from TV sets for the first time experiments.

About 1st coil. The first coil was wounded long time ago and originally was a secundar of Dally's Tesla Coil experiment. Wire is according to him 0,25mm - 0.3mm magnet wire. I think you can use a smaller diameter than 0.25mm. Second coil or resonance coil is 0.65mm. Also i think you can use 0.6 mm as you have done.

And last 4th coil is from special avionic wire. The lenght is shorten coz Dally haven't got a wire for a full winding lenght so he have extended this wire with ordinary electric PVC wire. He was trimmed the lenght and he don't know exactly lenght of load coil. It's between 70-80 turns. This need to be checked but you can make here more turns till the end of plastic PVC water pipe. Put a more windings and later when trimming you always can cut remain of wire. This coils need to be very well isolated coz under this coil is HV coax bifilar coil. Use PTFE for isolation in several layers between coax and this coil. Later when you pump more HV pulses in Coax, isolation need to undergo more than 10kV HV peak nano pulses.  I think you don't need to keep exactly 1:1 specifications, coz this is research project and you always need "FREE SPACE" for your moves. Once when the principle was known and understood to you, you can make evertyhing you want !!






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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13917 on: September 15, 2012, 03:21:48 AM »
Hi jbignes5,

I may be slightly off the mark but given what you've just described, I think that you may be interested in the work of UFOpolitics at Energetic Forum http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11885-my-asymmetric-electrodynamic-machines.html.

JJUK


 Sorry but I will never step a foot back at that place ever. The owner of that forum uses it for his personal sales floor. I'd rather stay here and read posts from people who are not under the influence of that forum or it's owner.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13918 on: September 15, 2012, 03:45:53 AM »
Itsu, about VCO on schematic.

VCO is standard well know type using digital logic. People which can't find original Russian logic circuits can use High Speed - Low Transient Delay- Logic circuits like HC, HCT, ACT, AS family. It's simple 2-input NAND gates. Use good and quality capacitors for Logic timing. Best variant are SMD components. The decoupling of all circuit must be done excellent this mean avoid close tracks of signal path to power line and use as much decoupling capacitors here to block noise and spurious signals. If you can do a shielding of all ICs by putting grounded copper stripe above ICs.  Reference voltage need to be stabilised and thermo  balanced. If you like you can use Special +5v Reference Source for trimming VCO. Use quality potentiometer with small resistors 10-20 om on the ends shunted with 10-100nf unipolar - capacitor to suppress noise from potentiometer. For Signal output from VCO use good 50 om coax and make a good gounding of shield (wire-mesh).
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13919 on: September 15, 2012, 04:10:26 AM »
Andrei Anatolievich Melnichenko:

The inventive method for generating energy by means of electromagnetic waves represents a process when electromagnetic waves emitted by one or several radiators operate into one load, or being previously accumulated in a storage are transferred to said load. During the generation process, the amplitudes of electromagnetic waves are combined in the load, the energy of electromagnetic field being a non-additive value is proportional to the square of the total amplitude of a field. Therefore, the energy released in the load is greater than the energy of each individual incident electromagnetic wave. Said load is disposed in the location of the in-phase combining of electromagnetic waves. The inventive device for carrying out the method for generating energy by means of electromagnetic waves comprises one or several generators of electromagnetic waves provided with radiators, power dividers and feeder lines, two or more radiators of electromagnetic waves operating synchronously into one load.

WO/2003/061110

Now kill me but does this description not fit a transformer (maybe three-phase) with two primary coils which operate synchronously into one secondary coil? Anyone has tried this yet? At least it would be simple, and this could also be the reason why there is no drawing in the patent specification.

According to this patent (or theory?) two electromagnetic waves (in a transformer?) in resonance to each other do not add up but potentiate their initial energy. Hence either it works as described or this patent is wrong. Who wish to find out?

Btw we on http://realstrannik.ru have big problems with KAPANADZE TROLLS (many of them are FROM KAPANADZE TEAM TROLLS) and OTHER TROLLS AND SPIES including flooders and spamers coz NO ONE GOVERNEMENT WANT FREE ENERGY DEVICE TO BE RELEASED. BUT will see. All options are in GAME opened and hidden. Will see !!
And you are absolutely sure Dally is not troll sent by Kapanadze in order to create distraction with his mysterious device because forums got too close to Kapanadze's very secret? :)

 

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