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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13756588 times)

Offline FreeEnergyInfo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13800 on: September 09, 2012, 01:26:34 PM »
I think that's the way. ( Saw in another video it was wound the canceling way)
2. SO please FreeEnergyInfo say your folks they should do measurements.
1. 100% CORECT....
2. OK....
24 HUR NEW VIDEO ....
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FORUM MESAGE ....
www.realstrannik.ru/forum/44-freeenergylt/71823-indukczionnaya-versiya-free-energy.html#71823
new videoooo....
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« Last Edit: September 10, 2012, 12:20:51 AM by FreeEnergyInfo »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13801 on: September 09, 2012, 01:34:39 PM »
Thanks!  :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13802 on: September 09, 2012, 04:10:45 PM »
@all

I wanted to show the 2004 video where the diode plate touches the 6 turn coil.

It could be that Kapanadze doesn't care about the coil is touched by something because he knows that this coil has nothing to do with the production of free electric energy. It would be rather strange if TK counts on a random connection with the diode plate in order to keep the device working.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13802 on: September 09, 2012, 04:10:45 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13803 on: September 09, 2012, 04:51:50 PM »
The coil photos published by TheCell show two different "bifilar" windings for a flat coil. The first one is the "hairpin" or non-inductive winding. The second one is the true TESLA bifilar design, from his patent number 512,340. It is NOT non-inductive, and it has greatly increased energy storage in inter-turn capacitance over a regular spiral-wound coil.

There has been much confusion over the years about the use of the term "bifilar".  Hairpin and Tesla versions are quite different, and when you start winding them on cylinder or toroid forms it gets even more confusing. One should always carefully specify whether one intends to mean the hairpin or the Tesla winding. Usually when I speak of bifilar coils I will be talking about the Tesla patented winding.

I've done a few comparisons between coils with the same amount of wire, using both types of "bifilar" windings. Here's one, comparing a simple spiral to a Tesla bifilar with the same amount of wire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb39SwTXBE

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13804 on: September 09, 2012, 05:02:27 PM »
QUOTE:  Instead of variac try a capacitor. At worse it will explode. :( ::)
Connected cap in parallel with primary, and primary and secondary in series, no explosion but when secondary winding is transposed, the phase changes 180 degrees. Note attachment.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13804 on: September 09, 2012, 05:02:27 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13806 on: September 09, 2012, 06:00:35 PM »
It could be that Kapanadze doesn't care about the coil is touched by something because he knows that this coil has nothing to do with the production of free electric energy. It would be rather strange if TK counts on a random connection with the diode plate in order to keep the device working.
Regards

What is so random in having a diode plate connect to the 6 turn, move the transformer to show it moves the 6 turn, then put the transformer back where the diode plates touches again the 6 turn. There is nothing random there but the ramifications of this are immense, notably to provide the 50hz timing to the output.

This means I need a step down transformer and work off the mains to do the same thing with my set-up because up till now there is something missing. HV pulses on the 6 turn will not do the job. There is just not enough energy produced to create the effect which must happen at a minimal critical point. The resonant point seems to be between 10kHz and 24kHz which is the area of best workable range for flybacks.

We cannot dispute the Aq2v. It is so open and load is well segregated from outputs. There is only the tapped output to the heater plug that could hide at best one small capacitor and a connection method using the four conductors.

@all

I have to go to Paris for a week starting Monday so I will be off my work bench but till then I will try more angles and if there is anything really worth showing, I will do another youtube.

I really feel like this thread is becoming a dumping ground with so much irrelevant posts. I would suggest that when you post something, tell us why you think the post is relevant to the TK device.

It could be any crazy idea, as long as it is relevant to TK devices, but you need to tell us why you are posting it and not just dump so much on the thread and leave us to ponder the relevance and waste time.

Case in point: Is it possible that the TKc has some internal hidden cores that are not in the center of the pipe they use to wind the coil as this would be easy for observers to see. See diagram below of possible ways to hide a core.

All we can see is the outer winds of the TKc. But this leaves so many places where the wind can be cut, then directly enter the center area and we would never know it.

Also, a question to @a.king21, can you tell me if your observer friends that were at the demo happened to look straight into the pipe opening of the TKc, and if so, what did they see if anything at all??????????

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13807 on: September 09, 2012, 06:26:14 PM »
What is so random in having a diode plate connect to the 6 turn, move the transformer to show it moves the 6 turn, then put the transformer back where the diode plates touches again the 6 turn. There is nothing random there but the ramifications of this are immense, notably to provide the 50hz timing to the output.

This means I need a step down transformer and work off the mains to do the same thing with my set-up because up till now there is something missing. HV pulses on the 6 turn will not do the job. There is just not enough energy produced to create the effect which must happen at a minimal critical point. The resonant point seems to be between 10kHz and 24kHz which is the area of best workable range for flybacks.

We cannot dispute the Aq2v. It is so open and load is well segregated from outputs. There is only the tapped output to the heater plug that could hide at best one small capacitor and a connection method using the four conductors.

wattsup

Are you able to draw up a circuit block schematic of what you have deduced so far from your video analysis and from this postulate on the nature of the power source to run the aqua2 heater?

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13808 on: September 09, 2012, 06:37:40 PM »
Are you able to draw up a circuit block schematic of what you have deduced so far from your video analysis and from this the nature of the power source to run the aqua2 heater?
Hoppy

@Happy

No, not yet but I am not far away from that. I will try some more experiments today adding a Variac and send one line to the center of the 6 turn coil, to see the effects. TK says it is so simple. HV pulse of a coil with a center tap high amps AC bias fits into the simple category. Much simpler then NMR theory.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13808 on: September 09, 2012, 06:37:40 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13809 on: September 09, 2012, 07:00:29 PM »
I really feel like this thread is becoming a dumping ground with so much irrelevant posts. I would suggest that when you post something, tell us why you think the post is relevant to the TK device.

OK, I think this is relevant to TK device because it has 50Hz transformers, diode bridges and capacitors, and it can do something that was worth to patent it (maybe).

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP2387142.html

But I'm quite not sure what it could do. ???

Placing a diode in the primary circuit of a transformer would mean to lose half of the input power, wouldn't it?

Or did I miss something with respect to physical laws? ???

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13810 on: September 09, 2012, 08:32:41 PM »
OK, I think this is relevant to TK device because it has 50Hz transformers, diode bridges and capacitors, and it can do something that was worth to patent it (maybe).

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP2387142.html

But I'm quite not sure what it could do. ???

Placing a diode in the primary circuit of a transformer would mean to lose half of the input power, wouldn't it?

Or did I miss something with respect to physical laws? ???

Why would you need to rectify and already DC input?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13811 on: September 09, 2012, 08:38:18 PM »
Familiar?

http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/WO2011145975

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https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:hfCIbClCT6UJ:https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document?pn%3D2429071%26ki%3DA1%26cc%3DEP Khoryakov und Stepanov&hl=hr&gl=hr&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgh_fFQG-AzU2NHNQRgNQ-E0QzOFDawi8hRgiqMD5wS0B8UKyT4WNXufSfPLGJ1T2NFcVlUnvkM2vkMvy1NDMEauFT-b3_lCZg8P--8hdnOQDG_QiCxVw-4DHCVT1bk8enkfyGR&sig=AHIEtbQAeWcumlEDhiK35-CTxqx__tKH3w


Very interested circuit!
Did you replicate it?
This solution is not so complicated, maybe we should to replicate this?
Regards

P.S.
CY it should be astable multivibrator (two outputs).
In my opinion frequency of inverter will be << from multivibrator (maybe 10 maybe 100 times).
Matching transformer it is current transformer... ? Or not... ;)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13812 on: September 09, 2012, 08:43:31 PM »
@zm: yes, that diode 1 makes no sense to me, and it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the description of the circuit in the text either. Text says primaries are connected to AC power source, not pulsed DC, and the diode 1 isn't mentioned.

I'm too lazy to read the whole patent. Maybe it's explained somewhere else, or just there for illustration, or maybe even it's a mistake.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13813 on: September 09, 2012, 08:58:09 PM »
Familiar?

http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/WO2011145975

English

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:hfCIbClCT6UJ:https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document?pn%3D2429071%26ki%3DA1%26cc%3DEP+Khoryakov+und+Stepanov&hl=hr&gl=hr&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgh_fFQG-AzU2NHNQRgNQ-E0QzOFDawi8hRgiqMD5wS0B8UKyT4WNXufSfPLGJ1T2NFcVlUnvkM2vkMvy1NDMEauFT-b3_lCZg8P--8hdnOQDG_QiCxVw-4DHCVT1bk8enkfyGR&sig=AHIEtbQAeWcumlEDhiK35-CTxqx__tKH3w

I'm quoting the description from the WIPO application here because it is actually very clear and understandable and explains this interesting circuit well enough to get builders started. I don't know what it has to do with Kapanadze but it's a neat circuit anyway.

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(EN)The invention relates to the field of electrical engineering and can be used for the autonomous supply of electrical energy to electrical consumers. The technical result consists in a manifold increase in an uninterrupted operating time which is equal to the service life of the rechargeable battery using one DC current source. The autonomous power supply source with a recharging function using one rechargeable battery comprises a DC source and an inverter, with an active load being connected in parallel with the output of said inverter via a bridge rectifier. The autonomous power supply source with a recharging function using one rechargeable battery is equipped with a second bridge rectifier, a matching transformer, two electronic transistor switches with a control system, a diode and capacitors, wherein the input of the second bridge rectifier is connected in parallel with the secondary winding of the matching transformer, the primary winding of said matching transformer being connected in series with the output of the inverter and the input of the first bridge rectifier, wherein a capacitor and, via an electronic switch, a load with a capacitor are connected in parallel with the output of said first bridge rectifier, the output of the second bridge rectifier is connected to the capacitor and, via a second electronic switch and a diode, to the DC source, while the control electrodes of the transistor switches are connected to a control circuit.

I think the "control circuit" CY is probably a function generator making alternating squarewave positive pulses out the two outputs, which can be done simply with an ordinary FG and some easy TTL or CMOS logic. But at what frequency and duty cycle?

ETA: I see from the "figure2" that I am right about the control pulses, and they are 50 percent duty cycle, alternating, positive going square pulses. But..... all I can find is that they should be "at a specified frequency". But I can't find what the specification is. Anybody got any idea? It will help when choosing the other component values and circuit layout.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13814 on: September 09, 2012, 09:02:52 PM »
I'm quoting the description from the WIPO application here because it is actually very clear and understandable and explains this interesting circuit well enough to get builders started. I don't know what it has to do with Kapanadze but it's a neat circuit anyway.

I think the "control circuit" CY is probably a function generator making alternating squarewave positive pulses out the two outputs, which can be done simply with an ordinary FG and some easy TTL or CMOS logic. But at what frequency and duty cycle?


TinselKoala,
I think, as I wrote above, this is astable multivibrator with two outs.
Watch waveform of current inside patent, please (FIG.2)


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