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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16313233 times)

Farmhand

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13740 on: September 05, 2012, 11:22:22 PM »
@Hoppy, why think the braid is trickery when the green box vid did not use any braid it used a really heavy earth wire wound round a water pipe, and it could be clearly seen only one connection 100%. I have watched it many times and no way was there any other feed to device. Most interesting was the inverter was used in between looping, and then battery removed. I assume doubters think in other demos this start battery is hidden? In fact I think TK just got cleverer and now uses small 9volt for starting by improving circuit.And in doing so could say look no batteries.
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1. Firstly the neutral wire of the mains is connected to the water tap/water pipe for one ground wire. ( the tap wire )

2. Secondly an active wire from the mains is previously buried in the garden below where the radiator is to be buried
maybe connected to a conductive plate. The radiator wire.

3. When the radiator is watered in  well a low resistance path is created between the buried wire and the radiator with the wire
connected to it.

4. Take both wires to the demonstration bench and connect them with an assistant observing from the flat/house.

5. On a given signal the assistant flips the switch to energize the radiator which powers the lights however is desired.

6. The battery shown could be recharged by the mains while doing it.

The garden video could maybe be faked how i described back in August.

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Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13741 on: September 05, 2012, 11:30:05 PM »
A bundle of quotes:

Also output transformer is not transformer but choke where High voltage are producing light ionisation second "inductor" produces light magnetic field who is produced by (sparkgap) No more than 2000 triggered volts in frequency of 50 Hz (or by your choice, for example 60Hz) By increasing frequency of sparkgap, or "can be replaced" with electronic sparkgap like (SIDAC), can be achieved different types and characteristics of magnetic field – Up to gravity effects (something about "one million interrupts per second")

by the way on my repply above.. Mr. Tiger from "001-lab" was very close, very close

Cosmo, do you think the first or second picture?

No, i mean this: it need a little bit polishing ;) why Tiger are stop on that i do not know, but it is close
It is close? Even very close? Because the spark hits the core of a coil in that picture? Yes, this could be very close ... well ... at least interesting!

Now the little polishing: (If) the core that is hit by the spark is that of a choke connected between 50Hz source (inverter) and the load (lamps), then the question: What core material is best to experiment with? Iron? Ferrite? Brass? Copper? Aluminum? etc.?

Just asking. :)

Anyway Tariel makes his mistake. He shows us a section of it. It looks like it's made of copper.
That would explain his metal working equipment.
In discussions with me he always said that he would have to make one component himself.
That is the secret.
Is that so ...

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yfree

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13742 on: September 06, 2012, 12:08:47 AM »

These excerpts are from "Steven Mark's Torroidal Power Unit" v2.0/2007
"
I hope things are calmed in your life when you receive this.
I fully understand your feelings of frustration.
To work hard to see nothing of a positive is sometimes shattering to one's
self.
I know very well...
I had a great deal of help and it took us years just to develop a SS control
system that would work!
And this is after we knew how to make generators!!!
...
Speed is energy if you can convert the mass into energy quickly
enough!
Anything no matter how small can store enough energy to convert
into huge amounts of energy.
Even electrons.....................................
Now, electrons can travel only so fast along the surface of the wire
because of magnetic flux.
What if you disable the effects of the flux?
My unit operates on these principles.
Now the electrons float freely without anything holding them back.
Electrons at the sped of light are now a possibility!
How much energy can be converted from a stream of electrons traveling
close to the speed of light?
...
They also have no concept of how important the control
frequencies are in order to make power from the collector.
...
I assumed that anyone working on technology this sophisticated would
have a superior knowledge of electronics and an understanding of PURE
frequency output being a Necessity to control the reactions going
on inside the collector.
...
Sincerely,
SM
"

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13743 on: September 06, 2012, 12:46:15 AM »
Anyway Tariel makes his mistake. He shows us a section of it. It looks like it's made of copper.
That would explain his metal working equipment.
In discussions with me he always said that he would have to make one component himself.
That is the secret.
Maybe that's the copper beta-avalanche current multiplication disk/ring, as described by McFreey.
Which photo were you referring to when you wrote the above?

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13744 on: September 06, 2012, 12:50:25 AM »
"Dear Tariel:
1) Provide us with all the necessary parts needed to build the device (assembly kit)
2) Then let us figure out how to connect these parts the right way to make it work"
Would love to hear his reply! :D ;)
I think Wesley proposed sth very similar to him and even arranged a 7-figure investor.
TK was vacilating too long and did not meet the investor's deadline.
You could probably get more details out of the horse's mouth.

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13745 on: September 06, 2012, 01:20:06 AM »
Maybe that's the copper beta-avalanche current multiplication disk/ring, as described by McFreey.
Then hit the copper disk/ring with the spark, not the surrounding coil as suggested by McFreey. Could be that helps.

yfree

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13746 on: September 06, 2012, 02:38:05 AM »
Then hit the copper disk/ring with the spark, not the surrounding coil as suggested by McFreey. Could be that helps.
The idea is not bad at all. Only, the energy of electrons accelerated in the spark is not high enough to invoke the necessary reactions. It may also be difficult to inject the electrons from the spark to where they are needed.

Jack Noskills

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13747 on: September 06, 2012, 07:13:42 AM »
No, a simple insulation (even enamel) can prevent a shock.
Also, 1-sided touch to the grounded side of a 3kV circuit will not produce any sensation either.

I got shocks from coil made from Mylar C insulated wire. Input signal was 220V/50 Hz, 400 meter coil around 80000 perm core. More power I put through the winding bigger the shock. Can you get shocks from electric field or was it dielectric field that was biting me ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13748 on: September 06, 2012, 10:57:23 AM »
@farmhand, the green box gen only uses one earth, first attempt with radiator not good enough earth- so wire was changed to water pipe. Water pipe was checked first to show no voltage. Then wire connected and twisted tight for good connection. Only one wire goes to gen not two so where is the circuit to fake, then all is lifted up to show only one wire.
Regards
Keith

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13749 on: September 06, 2012, 01:26:31 PM »
I got shocks from coil made from Mylar C insulated wire. Input signal was 220V/50 Hz, 400 meter coil around 80000 perm core. More power I put through the winding bigger the shock. Can you get shocks from electric field or was it dielectric field that was biting me ?
If the coil was pulsed (AC or PDC) then, when the coils's circuit opened or its current changed (as in AC), the induced voltage exceeded the wire's insulation breakdown point.
Coils "want" to keep the current through its windings constant "at all cost" - even if it means developing 100kV across its windings.

Jack Noskills

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« Reply #13750 on: September 06, 2012, 02:04:22 PM »
If the coil was pulsed then, when the coils's circuit opened, the induced voltage exceeded the wire's insulation breakdown point.
Coils "want" to keep the current through its windings constant "at all cost" - even if it means developing 100kV across its windings.

No pulsing, just plain sinewave from directly from the grid. That is why I thought it was rather weird. Not a mild shock but a hefty one.
 
If 100 kV can be produced between turns with pulsing, then why not then just pulse a coil and pick this 100 kv using a coil that is perpendicular to pulsed coil ?

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« Reply #13751 on: September 06, 2012, 02:22:46 PM »
No pulsing, just plain sinewave from directly from the grid.
That is also pulsing just not by rectangular wave but by a sinewave at 50Hz.  In both cases the current changes and the coil "rebells".

Mathematically because the voltage across the inductor (VL) is always equal to the self-inductance (L) multiplied by the current's rate of change (di/dt). Thus we can write:
VL=L*di/dt

For sinusoidal AC pulsing the coil at frequency (f) and amplitude (VS) in series with a resistance (R), the voltage across the coil (VL) is:
VL = VS*2Ï€fL/( R2+(2Ï€fL)2 )0.5

The combination of the interwinding capacitance and self-inductance of the coil can raise the voltage well above the VS

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13752 on: September 06, 2012, 03:11:00 PM »
If 100 kV can be produced between turns with pulsing, then why not then just pulse a coil and pick this 100 kv using a coil that is perpendicular to pulsed coil ?
Coils care only about the current or flux, not voltage.  You can pick up voltage with a capacitor but not with a coil.
Also perpendicular coils don't interact with each other.

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« Reply #13753 on: September 06, 2012, 03:19:35 PM »
Coils care only about the current or flux, not voltage.  You can pick up voltage with a capacitor but not with a coil.
Also perpendicular coils don't interact with each other.

Wouldn't there be capacitance between turns of perpendicular coils still ? The fact that perpendicular coils don't interact is the whole point of this kind of setup, pure capacitive induction ! If it can bite the finger, it will surely bite the coil on top of it too no matter how it is oriented. When perpendicular then no back EMF would affect the source. Would this effect be profound enough to be of any use is the question. Has anyone done any experiments using high frequency/high voltage with perpendicular coils ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13754 on: September 06, 2012, 03:33:55 PM »
@farmhand, the green box gen only uses one earth, first attempt with radiator not good enough earth- so wire was changed to water pipe. Water pipe was checked first to show no voltage. Then wire connected and twisted tight for good connection. Only one wire goes to gen not two so where is the circuit to fake, then all is lifted up to show only one wire.
Regards
Keith

Take another look at the green box video 2. The camera man twice pans into the street showing a car parked in the road - why. Look to the left of the car and there is a wire attached to the top of the fence which runs high up across the garden into the trees behind the demo area. This cable then drops to the ground and runs behind the row of people viewing the demo and curves round to the other side of the table passing beneath the array of lamps. Seeing things like this shows how easy it would be to fake this particular demo. I cannot trace it any further but it does run along the ground close to the table. There is far too much going on in this video to rule out fakery.

Hoppy