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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13178424 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13440 on: August 26, 2012, 07:44:03 AM »
What illness does TK have or had.I heard he is diabetic is that it.
Yes but he is also an alcoholic. When he starts drinking he can't stop and this is what nearly killed him.
In keeping with all drug addicts (alcohol is a drug, remember) he has wild
mood swings. He can be coherent one day and in a rage the next.
So negotiating with him was like negotiating with a bully.- You had to be very wary or he could suddenly fly into
a rage.
Maybe now you can understand why I've decided to stand up to him.
I got fed up of being bullied. Also he cheated our team.
All we want now is justice.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13441 on: August 26, 2012, 07:55:04 AM »
A copper coil has capacitance yes. Please can someone say or explain what exactly kind of "copper coil capacitor" Tk may be using and looks like - that resonates in pairs or as three, better still could be made to act like an electron pump or heart, a self-running self-sustaining pump.
It looks like an old clock or watch spring. You can have one plate or two or three inside each other separated by a dielectric. Polythene is a good dielectric (bin liner lol).  Or you can have two on top of each other. We just don't know what works....YET!!
But we will ..... in the end.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13442 on: August 26, 2012, 12:09:32 PM »

The device needs COAX CABLE BRAID to function.



Hi a.king21,

where do you suppose the coax cable to be in the aquarium device?
Where has the coax cable been elsewhere (different shows, different device)?
Which place it must be (always)?

Which way is coax cable arranged? (coiled, long (soleniod), flat (pancake), core (iron))

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13442 on: August 26, 2012, 12:09:32 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13443 on: August 26, 2012, 01:35:02 PM »
Gidfactor: There was definitely no mechanical motion in the aquarium 2. I checked and double checked  and triple checked. And more. Definitely no mechanical movement at all. No hissing, no humming, just that haunting spark gap mocking us all.
Then what is the source of the humming sound in the 2004 video? If there is no mechanical part in the tin can and the blue inverter can be ruled out as source of the sound, then the only part left that could be responsible for the humming (50Hz) sound is the 50Hz transformer behind the coil. At 17.10 the second man seems to be curious about the noise as well and therefore holds his head close to the transformer for a moment. When this transformer is back looped somehow in a odd way this could explain the humming sound coming from it, especially since this transformer is not a molded one like the transformer in the aquarium II device.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13444 on: August 26, 2012, 02:20:52 PM »
Then what is the source of the humming sound in the 2004 video? If there is no mechanical part in the tin can and the blue inverter can be ruled out as source of the sound, then the only part left that could be responsible for the humming (50Hz) sound is the 50Hz transformer behind the coil. At 17.10 the second man seems to be curious about the noise as well and therefore holds his head close to the transformer for a moment. When this transformer is back looped somehow in a odd way this could explain the humming sound coming from it, especially since this transformer is not a molded one like the transformer in the aquarium II device.

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Agreed  :)

The flat box on the bed where all the lamp leads join holds the secret IMO. Maybe a giant Joule Thief type effort  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13445 on: August 26, 2012, 02:22:47 PM »

Hi a.king21,

where do you suppose the coax cable to be in the aquarium device?
Where has the coax cable been elsewhere (different shows, different device)?
Which place it must be (always)?

Which way is coax cable arranged? (coiled, long (solenoid), flat (pancake), core (iron))

Regards
magneto_DC
The braid seems to be used as an earth wire. I do not know Russian plytionka cable. But the output coils look like high voltage wire. The wiring appears bifilar.
RE humming noise: If there was humming, it was not noticed in Aquarium 2. Possible it was too faint to hear.
The humming noise on start up in many KP videos is the solenoid start switch, which ceases once the device is running.
If humming is constant in the 2004 video, then it could indicate a number of things including ferroresonance or simply a noisy transformer. I am not ruling out a tesla switch, I just think it is unlikely

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13446 on: August 26, 2012, 02:32:47 PM »
The braid seems to be used as an earth wire. I do not know Russian plytionka cable. But the output coils look like high voltage wire. The wiring appears bifilar.
RE humming noise: If there was humming, it was not noticed in Aquarium 2. Possible it was too faint to hear.
The humming noise on start up in many KP videos is the solenoid start switch, which ceases once the device is running.
If humming is constant in the 2004 video, then it could indicate a number of things including ferroresonance or simply a noisy transformer. I am not ruling out a tesla switch, I just think it is unlikely

Yes, a solenoid start switch could explain the noise assuming it was used in the 2004 setup but it sounds more like an overload on the transformer.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13447 on: August 26, 2012, 03:02:11 PM »
.... But the output coils look like high voltage wire. ....


Dear a.king21
Could you extend this description?
I think, it could be very important information.
This wire was 5 or 7 mm diameter? (with insulator)
I will tell you why, I hope.



And where did you saw those coils? In which place? of transparent box 2?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13448 on: August 26, 2012, 03:07:34 PM »
could be degaussing something in the 2004 setup. it would be niece to have some translation.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13448 on: August 26, 2012, 03:07:34 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13449 on: August 26, 2012, 04:03:03 PM »
@Gidfactor

Welcome to the forum.

In the patent you put up, it seems to fit well into the required function of a driving circuit. The only problem may be that this circuit incorporates some bleeding resistors to keep the discharge cap(s) from over charging during faster discharge rates and I am worried that this will dissipate too much energy. Of course, if the overall device ultimately produces so much OU that any dissipation would be deemed frivolous, then that would not be a problem.

@all

OK, about the blue TKc wire.

OU member @dllabarre sent me a PM yesterday and I think it is appropriate that I copy it here. I am sure he will not mind because he is the one that put this idea forward.

Hi
I bought some large diameter coax cable, stripped the outer insulation, stripped the shielding off, just left the inner dielectric and core wire.  The dielectric is good insulation.
It's not a perfect solution but large coax is easy to buy local.
DonL

OK, so I looked closer at the blue TKc wire and took some closeups of the already available images.

Basically these shots show that the blue wire has an internal dielectric (white).

There could be an aluminum shielding between the blue layer and the white layer. Also, let's say this same wire came originally with a black outer insulation. By removing the outer layer, you will then see a layer of shielding wire that can easily be slipped of the wire length and used as the device ground lead. The remaining wire blue is as we see it but I would suspect that is has an inner aluminum shield as well which is typical of such coax wires.

So the coax should have the following layers, from outer to inner, to be a good candidate for a TKc.

Layer 1: Outer coating. Usually black.
Layer 2: Ground wire meshed shielding.
Layer 3: Blue insulation.
Layer 4: May or may not exist as an aluminum foil layer.
Layer 5: White dielectric.
Layer 6: Center conductor.

Man, oh man. So coax makes sense and his requirement for a more special coax type with more layers then usual would be correct.

Getting closer and closer. Let' keep on going.

When we were doing tests with the Caduceus coil, we had the HV leave source, then through an Avramenko plug, them to spark gap/capacitor and then to the Caduceus primary. Lot's of energy was lost in the spark gap.

The present Aq2v shows that the HV+ goes DIRECTLY to the load, then to the TKc, then to ground. This is the testing I want to do next and see if frequency is a factor.

wattsup
« Last Edit: August 26, 2012, 09:40:09 PM by wattsup »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13450 on: August 26, 2012, 05:01:53 PM »
@ Wattsup,

Yes, it looks like its from coax cable and for HV use. But, was it built for the aquarium design or for an earlier project and just placed into the aquarium in a prominent position as eye candy - time will tell.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13451 on: August 26, 2012, 05:19:43 PM »
@Gidfactor

Welcome to the forum.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH WATTSUP...

In the patent you put up, it seems to fit well into the required function of a driving circuit. The only problem may be that this circuit incorporates some bleeding resistors to keep the discharge cap(s) from over charging during faster discharge rates and I am worried that this will dissipate too much energy. Of course, if the overall device ultimately produces so much OU that any dissipation would be deemed frivolous, then that would not be a problem.

@all

OK, about the blue TKc wire.

OU member @dllabarre sent me a PM yesterday and I think it is appropriate that I copy it here. I am sure he will not mind because he is the one that put this idea forward.

OK, so I looked closer at the blue TKc wire and took some closeups of the already available images.

Basically these shots show that the blue wire has an internal dielectric (white).

There could be an aluminum shielding between the blue layer and the white layer. Also, let's say this same wire came originally with a black outer insulation. By removing the outer layer, you will then see a layer of shielding wire that can easily be slipped of the wire length and used as the device ground lead. The remaining wire blue is as we see it but I would suspect that is has an inner aluminum shield as well which is typical of such coax wires.

So the coax should have the following layers, from outer to inner, to be a good candidate for a TKc.

Layer 1: Outer coating. Usually black.
Layer 2: Ground wire meshed shielding.
Layer 3: Blue insulation.
Layer 4: May or may not exist as am aluminum foil layer.
Layer 5: White dielectric.
Layer 6: Center conductor.

Man, oh man. So coax makes sense and his requirement for a more special coax type with more layers then usual would be correct.

Getting closer and closer. Let' keep on going.

When we were doing tests with the Caduceus coil, we had the HV leave source, then through an Avramenko plug, them to spark gap/capacitor and then to the Caduceus primary. Lot's of energy was lost in the spark gap.

The present Aq2v shows that the HV+ goes DIRECTLY to the load, then to the TKc, then to ground. This is the testing I want to do next and see if frequency is a factor.

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13452 on: August 26, 2012, 06:17:43 PM »
About the coil capacitor, with the coax cable, i think you have capacitance between the copper wire and the shield. so if you coil that cable do you hace your coil capacitor ???
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13453 on: August 26, 2012, 07:13:31 PM »
@wattsup, and all

In my post "  Reply #13289 " I have mentioned that it is possible that TK is using a coax or part of it. I'm pretty convinced seeing different types of coax cables with various sizes of center conductor and insulating that he possibly used in coil HV end .. Just a thought.. ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13454 on: August 26, 2012, 07:17:54 PM »
Maybe .... there is a asymetric capacitor involved?! I dont know... that Idea just popped up in my brain.... Maybe... some kind of asymetric coil capacitor he creates thru that coax cable?! I know it sounds senseless... but we gotta think out of the box... dont we?! I mean What would it do?

 

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