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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13201403 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13365 on: August 23, 2012, 02:40:09 PM »
Hoppy:  OK maybe you're serious. I'll look at some other shots of the wire. I can assure you that is not the trick. The device was handled many times (and moved around) as well as stared at for 4 and a half hours with 3 of the team very sceptical indeed.
Re the braid.
I do not think it is used as an exact counterweight device. In the build two different coloured braids are roughly tied together.
This proved the point:
1 Kapanadze was struggling to find coax.
2 Different braids do not affect the principle of operation of the device.
3 Braid is very important for his device to work.
4 Possible uses:
A Electrical shielding - thus proving he uses high frequencies and possibly high voltages.
B His device is susceptible to interference from electrical storms - maybe earth, maybe air.
C It is possible he uses braid to make a ... COIL - CAPACITOR!!!
C2 Maybe the coil - capacitor has two different widths to it to make it a permanent dipole....
D He flattens the braid out. Big mistake Tariel.
E Maybe v8karlo's device would be supercharged if he replaced his coils with flat coils made from braid.
F It is equally possible that Kapanadze needs the central wire from the co-ax also.
F2 This would indicate radio frequencies.

OK, lets look at this logically. The camera has picked-up a cable that looks to be running very close to the 'earth' braid. The question that needs to be asked is did any of the team see this cable and if so are there any close-up photographs that can show clearly that it is not in some way connected to the earth braid. If the team observed the cable, it would surely have occurred to them that this could be picked-up in the video and questions asked about it. Like you I cannot see how an investigating team could have missed something like this and not taken the opportunity to record and photograph it, so as to rule it out, given its very close proximity to the device. However, until it is ruled out as being a source of energy to the device, we are left with a nagging possibility that a simple trick was missed by the team.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13366 on: August 23, 2012, 03:35:19 PM »
 Quote from: Free.Energy on August 22, 2012, 03:23:17 PM <blockquote>
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All of which does not add more energy than you put into it in the first place, so how is it a requirement for an OU system?
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You make LC circuit that has only R to slow things down. If R is zero it runs forever, remember Tesla experiment with cooled down wire that run for three years. Each cycle is copied to secondary, if no load then LC circuit keeps on running forever. The instant you connect your secondary to load there will be back EMF that opposes LC circuit, resonance is destroyed. Now source sees this and pushes more and power gets used. But if you take this power from secondary so that resonance is not destroyed, your primary LC circuit still runs forever and what ever power this source has circulating you can freely take. Very simple to understand yes ? TK figured this out, so did v8karlo and so did I. Just crank up the frequency and power circulating in the source and energy abundancy is yours, just like Don Smith has said.

I don't think TK uses anythign like this.  Don Smith's stuff has been around for a long time and I don't see any proof r successful replications.  Same goes for the other OU Charletans like Bearden and Bedini.  All the talk of reactive power is deliberately misrepresented to offer excess energy, which it does not.  This only offers increased efficiency.
 
If you want to compare TK's work to real OU devices then compare it to the devices from Ed Gray, Lester Hendershot, Thomas Moray, and Steven Mark.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13367 on: August 23, 2012, 04:27:50 PM »
Mathematics for Kapanadze:
Of 220 volts through a step-down transformer get 12 volt 3 ​​amp, which translated in watts - 36 watts.
Take the reference voltage 220 ​​volts, and add these 3 amps, we output 660 watts.

Unfortunately I found the inverter transformer output.
Use a step-down transformer to the output 40 volts, as the reference voltage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW_KNKVC-DE

Hi Semenihin-77

Thank's for sharing your work :)

Is it the shematic you are using  in your video?

Can you correct and add some value for the components Please?

Good luck at all

Laurent


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13368 on: August 23, 2012, 05:04:30 PM »
Hi Bernhard
 if it is possible to obtain the measurement of the iron core of the transformer X and Y in this snapshot?
Thanks


Hi x=16mm / y=26mm , the core from a metal tape, from three parts one in another, drew as it looks with the sizes

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13369 on: August 23, 2012, 05:14:37 PM »
  Spark gaps not necessary huh.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_avalanche  Why when I look at two capacitor plates seperated by a dielectric do I see the identical description of a spark gap?  What do you think was stinging Tesla back in the first paritcle accelerator ever devised?  What do scientists call fast electrons?  Why did Tesla like so many other scientists with 1/2 an ounce of integrity rail against making metals radioactive while you can make nitrogen radioactive with a 1/2life of 12 seconds.
 
« Last Edit: August 23, 2012, 06:16:07 PM by sparks »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13370 on: August 23, 2012, 06:38:29 PM »
Thanks Bernhard

 this means that this transformer when used with the network to 50 hz
 can deliver up to 400 w.

 Also being used in other frequency wires would not be appropriate to bring
 a higher power.  ;D


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13371 on: August 23, 2012, 09:15:24 PM »
Spark gap is use for automatic change frenquency in RLC circuit. Spark gap make resonance!!

Because of this, TK use HIGH Voltage. With small voltage no spark!
Then why is it that nobody can successfully replicate this device? Because the assumed principle is totally wrong?

NO. Kapanadze say "Radi, radi" that menas "Working". Spark is fire, but spark is very small. When put load on, fire is strong. This is "Automatic resonance with spark gap".
»Radi, radi« means »spark is working«, or does it rather mean »it will work anyway without spark«? ::)

Test: Use MOT, connect to secundar capacitor (8pF, 2500V) and spark gap in series. Measurement current to primar (2.30A) and measurement current in LC Spark gap circuit. Current is 23Amps.
Then this construction should run in self-sustaining mode. Ever tried it?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13372 on: August 23, 2012, 09:34:05 PM »
Then why is it that nobody can successfully replicate this device? Because the assumed principle is totally wrong?

Because the start with small amount of energy. You need 220V or more. No 12V or 24V!

»Radi, radi« means »spark is working«, or does it rather mean »it will work anyway without spark«? ::)

Not working without spark or electronics with automatics resonanc circuit

Then this construction should run in self-sustaining mode. Ever tried it?

I try all about I talking!

Regards!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13373 on: August 23, 2012, 09:50:58 PM »
I have a question about spark gap. In 2004 video TK first looked at spark gap to see if it's working then the other guy switched on bulbs. is the same sequence actions required for this new aquarium device ?

The device was started by the application of a pp3 (small 9v battery). At the same time a switch was held down. Then the 2.5 kw device started, all at once. It is possible that he was holding it until he saw the spark gap firing of course. That then is his indicator that the start capacitor has enough power to run the device.
TK uses high frequency-high voltage maybe. I do not think his high voltage goes too much into the KV range - maybe 5 kv.
TK is quite capable of producing a "no spark gap visible or audible" device if he wants to.  I asked for aquarium 2 because I wanted to test my theory about the spark gap acting as a load limiter and I was right. He also did not put the coil capacitors of aquarium 1 on show - indicating increasing paranoia. It took me a couple of months to convince him that I did not want a mechanical device. I told him I could see through his charades.
He simply does not understand the patent process. So he is acting like inventors did in the middle ages - wanting money - but afraid to show the device in case someone steals it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13374 on: August 23, 2012, 10:00:37 PM »
You need 220V or more. No 12V or 24V!
Then why is it that TK can start the aquarium device with a 9V battery?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13376 on: August 23, 2012, 10:23:16 PM »
@a.king21

I would be mad too but how is a threat going to reestablish trust?

Your bis is your bis,
but this is some kind of open source forum space.
To succeed we got to keep moving on and share everything
more or less unconditionally,
including circuits.

That takes trust and how we can bring TKs work into the public domain.

@ v8karlo and a.king21

Can you guys post your circuits please?
I will try to replicate from what I learn here
and we have got a lot more info. now.
If this is truly open source space we can succeed.

Thank you
When someone robs you of 20,000 dollars there is no trust left.
Close insiders have told me he is out of control and the only thing he fears is the Police.
Our offer is simple. Pay back the 20 grand or fulfill the contract.
If Kapanadze had fullfilled his part of the deal, we would now be engaged in the
patent process, to everyone's benefit.
Kapanadze has been getting away with scamming people for too long.
Someone has to make a stand for justice.
Believe me, if TK does not respond, then the next call will be the Police.
Then he will be faced with 2 choices hopefully
1 Admit the scam and go to jail
2 Show the court his device, and still face the threat of a "scamming" prosecution.
3 Return the stolen money or fullfill the deal.
I have had personal messages about TK with allegations too horrible to repeat.
Believe me when I say I am being soft with him.
I am giving him a chance. ie a public ticking off. No-one has ever done this to him.
Meanwhile, like everyone else I am disclosing what I know. I am hoping that
some info will be the missing link.
 
I have not replicated Kapanadze's circuit. I have analysed it extensively. There may be mistakes in it.
I have tried to give an analogy with Tesla's earthquake machine which is several million times OU.
(and been cricicised for it - so we are in an intellectual debate here.)
Remember, "the secret is so simple, you'll laugh when you see it."
Note: Each side of the resonator are two different frequencies and two different voltages. All this in one tank circuit.
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13377 on: August 23, 2012, 10:44:14 PM »
Then why is it that TK can start the aquarium device with a 9V battery?

 ::)

Why.....think.... 9V charge 12V or 9V capacitor.  (cca 80000 or 100000uF). This amount of energy is enough to start inverter (220V). After that device work itself.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13378 on: August 23, 2012, 11:02:29 PM »
@a.king21

Well, I ain't gonna learn to play the fiddle while your saga with TK will lurch on in an endless quagmire of mutual litigation. Like I said, "high return investment always means high RISK", with great emphasis on risk.

I only ask that you do not use this venue as your mode of showing your great displeasure of TK, which is very understandable I must say. But I think guys hear have enough on their hands. But don't forget that you paid for a demo and you got a demo. I don't know more about it but in those countries, the Law may have a different flavor.

@all

First off, the wire and the chair. That wire is not going into the ground wire. It just looks that way. If it did, the observers would have seen it, especially when the device was lifted in the air. It is just one of those crazy angle shots that create an illusion. 

Next, the spark gap. The SG is not on the output side of the system. It is on the pre-drive side keeping the pulsations to the main triple coil(s).

Next the negative of the HV output. Even though it is connected to the terminal 3 of the third coil, it is still not going anywhere because the 3rd and 4th terminals are all in parallel, hence he is using a virtual ground for the negative. This can cause many effects that we do not know anything about yet, especially when you consider the other side of the 1st and 2nd coils are going to the Coily Coils. This means that it is even possible that the primary side of the 1st and 2nd coils are not being pulsed but he is actually using them as a step-down to feed back signals to the pre-drive side. Otherwise he is using those two primaries as standard driven pulses, but I would not put it past TK to use the Coily Coil as a simple fancy looking short circuit across those two secondaries, again to feed back energy via the primaries.

Next, about the coax wire he was anxious too receive. Give me a break man. This cannot be possible that there is no coax in Georgia. I would believe it more if you told me there was no HV wire for the TK coil in Georgia because that is harder to find the right type. But coax, that's a dime a dozen. Now, I am sure if TK needed the HV wire, he would not say this to anyone and all his insiders would call it coax.

Hehehe.

I don't think TK planned on us finding out so much.

@a.king21

One question if possible. While TK was starting the system, can you remember the actual step by step method he used to start it up and did you notice when the spark started, which of the two switches he used. This is important because we can follow the switch wires back to see which area of the build they are going to and this can help us figure out some more insights.

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13379 on: August 23, 2012, 11:16:03 PM »
wattsup: You have to remember that we are talking about Georgia. A country ravaged by civil war and recent Russian invasion.
My information is that the people get zero unemployment benefit and absolutely no free medicine. The part about co-ax is 100%
If you don't want me to post everything I know then I won't.
I was not in Tbilisi during the demo. I have asked the 2 people I am in regular contact with and they cannot remember the starting buttons, just the way it was started.
I am grateful about the three phase transformer information, because it indicated to me that TK was already preparing a double whammy against us. He offered us a 10 kw  3 phase device next, which my partner paid for.

 

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