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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16369841 times)

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12990 on: August 14, 2012, 06:34:25 PM »

With battery? I don't think so. Like a.king or Mike told the weight of device was around 6 - 8 kg. Good battery have few kg.
I think, there must be capacitors bank. Capacitors are slight. And few mF (maybe 10 - 20mF) should be enough for 2 sec. powering after switching off.
base of the generator must have a high current efficiency and Cap bank is only to temporary put energy to stabilize the current on output.
Caps should be charged like in pulse power supply. And we have OU pulse power supply... ;-)

It depends on what type of batteries he could be using but I take your point about the weight assuming LA or NICAD but Li-Ion or poly is a different matter. I'm not looking at an OU element in this, purely how this could be achieved using conventional circuitry with trickery. Remember that Romero strung many along for a long time until caught-out.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12991 on: August 14, 2012, 06:39:57 PM »
His circuit L1 is the classic prerequisite for ferroresonance.
Maybe. Ferroresonance is still a weakly understood phenomenon. 
Often it is associated with a magnetic field varying independently in two or more dimensions.
The attached article states: "Ferroresonance is a widely studied phenomenon but it is still not well understood because of its complex behaviour."


This is what Wikipedia states about ferroresonance.
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Ferroresonance can occur when an unloaded 3-phase system consisting mainly of inductive and capacitive components is interrupted by single phase means.  In the electrical distribution field this typically occurs on a medium voltage electrical distribution network of transformers (inductive component) and power cables (capacitive component). If such a network has little or no resistive load connected load and one phase of the applied voltage is then interrupted, ferroresonance can occur. If the remaining phases are not quickly interrupted and the phenomenon continues, overvoltage can lead to the breakdown of insulation in the connected components resulting in their failure. The phenomenon can be avoided by connecting a minimal resistive load on the transformer secondaries or by interrupting the applied voltage by a 3-phase interrupting device such as a ganged (3 pole) circuit breaker.

sparks

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12992 on: August 14, 2012, 06:57:17 PM »
Maybe. Ferroresonance is still a weakly understood phenomenon. 
Often it is associated with a magnetic field varying independently in two or more dimensions.
The attached article states: "Ferroresonance is a widely studied phenomenon but it is still not well understood because of its complex behaviour."


This is what Wikipedia states about ferroresonance.
Is this the same phenomenon as the 7th harmonic of 60hz fed flurescent light ballasts where Electricians have to oversize mains and distribution wiring to accomodate this wattless component of current circulating through the entire electrical grid.  The power companies admit they don't produce it but they are pissed they have to invest more money in their conductors to circulate it so they don't oveheat and become resistant to the exciting power scource?

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12993 on: August 14, 2012, 07:00:53 PM »
"Power - no"  How that can be? Would you care to elaborate in layman terms? :D ;)
Thanks..
Simply if I increase the voltage three times then the current will decrease three times.  Their product will remain unchanged no matter what I do (except for the RI^2 losses in practice).  I cannot increase both the current and the voltage without playing tricks with the phase between them.
And if I play phase tricks then I can increase both the average current and the average voltage, but the problem is that power does not equal  average current * average voltage.

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"Average' can signify the arithmetic mean [ (a+b)/2 ] or the geometrical mean [ (ab)^0.5 ] or quadratic mean [ ( (a^2 + b^2)/2 )^0.5 ] also known as root-mean-square (rms)
Power * Time = Energy

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12994 on: August 14, 2012, 07:19:34 PM »
What happens if an ordinary 50Hz transformer is operated with 50Hz grid frequency and, let's say, 5KHz high frequency at the same time by means of different primary/secondary windings? If there is a strong BEMF at 5Khz (square wave) in the core then (Rhythmodynamics again) this could influence the power consumption/flow of the 50Hz circuit, I guess.
Yes, there will be influence.
1) If the 5kHz winding is oriented in the same fluxwise dimension (not to be confused with "direction") as the 50Hz winding then we'll have conventional saturable reactor or magnetic amplifier without DC bias.
2) If the 5kHz winding is oriented in a different fluxwise dimension (e.g. fluxwise perpendicular to the 50Hz winding) then there also be an influence, albeit a different one than in pt.1

I already discussed the differences in Reply #11672.

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"Fluxwise" means relating to the direction of magnetic flux.  e.g.: all wire loops wound on a toroidal core transformer are parallel fluxwise, but they are not all parallel spacewise.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12995 on: August 14, 2012, 07:44:23 PM »
Maybe. Ferroresonance is still a weakly understood phenomenon. 
Often it is associated with a magnetic field varying independently in two or more dimensions.
The attached article states: "Ferroresonance is a widely studied phenomenon but it is still not well understood because of its complex behaviour."


This is what Wikipedia states about ferroresonance.

 "Once the ferroresonance has appeared, the system stays working under ferroresonance, until the source is not able to provide the necessary energy to maintain the phenomenon." Where is this source of energy in TK's setup? Is it being seriously suggested that we can produce the energy source from a set of batteries to allow ferroresonance to manifest and then hold and carefully control this condition for 4.5hrs @ 2KW with the same set of batteries??  ::) that's assuming we have some batteries to begin with???

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12996 on: August 14, 2012, 07:45:30 PM »
The grounding can be replaced by the negative terminal of a car battery.
Where is the car battery in 100KW device?

Has anyone measured the amps of the grounding of the aquarium II device? I can't imagine concrete is a good conductor.

Anyway, Free Energy for dummies:

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Researchers/Free_Energy_Plans-1.pdf

The interesting term here is »Back EMF«. And maybe it worked, because the official website is offline already. :D


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12997 on: August 14, 2012, 07:52:12 PM »
Just throwing this out there, I think I could demonstrate the results of the garden video
with the car radiator.

1. Firstly the neutral wire of the mains is connected to the water tap/water pipe for one ground wire. ( the tap wire )

2. Secondly an active wire from the mains is previously buried in the garden below where the radiator is to be buried
maybe connected to a conductive plate. The radiator wire.

3. When the radiator is watered in  well a low resistance path is created between the buried wire and the radiator with the wire
connected to it.

4. Take both wires to the demonstration bench and connect them with an assistant observing from the flat/house.

5. On a given signal the assistant flips the switch to energize the radiator which powers the lights however is desired.

6. The battery shown could be recharged by the mains while doing it.

Anything can be faked.

Will someone pay me to demonstrate it ? I could do with some money for equipment to experiment.

Cheers all.

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12998 on: August 14, 2012, 07:55:57 PM »
It depends on what type of batteries he could be using
Did you pay any attention when I calculated how much mass and space the best batteries would need to occupy in order to power a heater for 4.5h @ 2kW ?

The best batteries available today would take up 7.5 Litres of space (weighing 18kg) !!!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12999 on: August 14, 2012, 08:01:19 PM »
But it is possible, TK can use cable which looks like the ground cable and connect  it to the phase inside black box. Rest of wires are fake.. :)
Yes, it is possible.
Only few hair-thin enameled wires would be required to deliver 2kW when using an external 3kVAC power supply.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13000 on: August 14, 2012, 08:03:18 PM »
Did you pay any attention when I calculated how much mass and space the best batteries would need to occupy in order to power a heater for 36min @ 2kW ?

It is obvious that batteries alone cannot power the heater for that duration but they could help to reduce the load on a concealed 'live' wire, which is what I wrote originally.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13001 on: August 14, 2012, 08:22:40 PM »
Just throwing this out there, I think I could demonstrate the results of the garden video
with the car radiator.

1. Firstly the neutral wire of the mains is connected to the water tap/water pipe for one ground wire. ( the tap wire )

2. Secondly an active wire from the mains is previously buried in the garden below where the radiator is to be buried
maybe connected to a conductive plate. The radiator wire.

3. When the radiator is watered in  well a low resistance path is created between the buried wire and the radiator with the wire
connected to it.

4. Take both wires to the demonstration bench and connect them with an assistant observing from the flat/house.

5. On a given signal the assistant flips the switch to energize the radiator which powers the lights however is desired.

6. The battery shown could be recharged by the mains while doing it.

Anything can be faked.

Will someone pay me to demonstrate it ? I could do with some money for equipment to experiment.

Cheers all.

Hi Farmhand,

I reckon you could even upstage TK  :)

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13002 on: August 14, 2012, 09:15:14 PM »
It is obvious that batteries alone cannot power the heater for that duration but they could help to reduce the load on a concealed 'live' wire, which is what I wrote originally.
I had a long conversation with Mike today. They handled the earth wire on numerous occasions.  Also look where it is connected inside the box. I welcome all discussions, but I do not think it is the earth wire. Mike said it was very tiny. And remember it was disconnected for a few seconds. Whatever he did we don't think it was the earth wire. My money is on an asymmetrical toroid. Also ferroresonance, but not conventional ferroresonance. Remember in the patent he loops the input to the output. Lets say pseudo ferroresonance. Anyway if anyone can clean up the photo - it might prove usefull.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13003 on: August 14, 2012, 09:24:03 PM »
I had a long conversation with Mike today. They handled the earth wire on numerous occasions.  Also look where it is connected inside the box. I welcome all discussions, but I do not think it is the earth wire. Mike said it was very tiny. And remember it was disconnected for a few seconds. Whatever he did we don't think it was the earth wire. My money is on an asymmetrical toroid. Also ferroresonance, but not conventional ferroresonance. Remember in the patent he loops the input to the output. Lets say pseudo ferroresonance. Anyway if anyone can clean up the photo - it might prove usefull.

There's nothing tiny about the 'earth' wire I'm looking at and if it were a neutral mains conductor, it does not follow that it could not be touched.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13004 on: August 14, 2012, 09:31:08 PM »
I had a long conversation with Mike today. They handled the earth wire on numerous occasions.  Also look where it is connected inside the box. I welcome all discussions, but I do not think it is the earth wire. Mike said it was very tiny. And remember it was disconnected for a few seconds. Whatever he did we don't think it was the earth wire. My money is on an asymmetrical toroid. Also ferroresonance, but not conventional ferroresonance. Remember in the patent he loops the input to the output. Lets say pseudo ferroresonance. Anyway if anyone can clean up the photo - it might prove usefull.


Hi,
let's pay your attention on circuit on silver plate. Looks like classic kacher... :)
One transistor, one resistor around 3kohm and Russian diode....