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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14929037 times)

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12135 on: June 23, 2012, 07:58:24 PM »
Considering all the stuff Eric Dollard knows where is his free energy device ? Where was it ever ?
I think there is too much confusion and speculation. People are confusing each other with irrelevant
information overload. I think people should do their own experiments and forget about all the
disinfo laid to lead them off track. Experiment theorize and think. Everybody wants to follow a lead
from someone else, but they get led up the garden path again and follow others flawed thinking.
Unless someone has results why follow them. I don't see anyone with any results.
My intuition tells me that Tariel is just as much a fake as Don Smith. But even if not the only info
he would ever give out would be disinfo. Why would his investors allow it to be any other way.
I think he and his demonstrations are to raise money from investors,
tariels handlers may have mob connections. Anything is possible, but his revealing any useful
info is unlikely in my opinion. Until he releases some useful info for a working device I will
consider him a big faker as it is my right to do so. Without any proof of anything we can only speculate
and I speculate he is a faker Just like Don Smith. Faker or no he is not doing anyone any good,
or contributing anything to the free energy research community except confusion and wasted funds.

The perpetuation of these threads without any useful info for a working free energy device in the kW range
or even in the 100's of watt range is a farce. The threads should be in my opinion abandoned until there is
useful info to work with. The continuation of these type of threads without any useful construction info is
truly farcical. No one has a working free energy device, all claims are mistaken misleading or false/faked.

If there is any free energy devices, why not concentrate some effort on perfecting them ?
I put forward the reason is there are none. Any energy present at the output that is over and above the input
of any device is either collected from outside the device or part of the device transformed to energy at the output (fuel).
We all know something cannot come from nothing so it simply must be true. If anyone could explain any other way to get more
output than input without collecting it from outside the device or transforming part of the device I would love to hear it.

Happy pie in the sky collecting folks.

Cheers

P.S. A simple solar panel is capable of out performing any device revealed in this thread for power out compared to power in over time.

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Offline jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12136 on: June 23, 2012, 08:33:18 PM »
 Huh? What has happened to you Farmhand? First you are poisoning the energetic forum and now you come here trying to disuade people from figuring this out. Why bother? If you think this has no merit then move on you troll.. I used to think you were a pretty open minded individual. Now I know better.


 You don't like it then don't bother coming here.


What about the links I just posted that state they are using atmospheric energy to run the earth probing energies to find resources. A purely passive circuit.


 Lets think about this for a second here.


 Tesla made a working active way to transmit power over hundreds of miles with no connection other then the ground. Now build a hydro power station and hook that to it. IS THAT NOT FREE ENERGY? Other then the investment to the stuff needed for both stations and receivers the energy from a water fall is FREE! The transmission looses 5 percent at most..


 As to these other guys, we are investigating and trying to learn better ways to get what we need. If you can not help then go away please.

 AS to your P.S. Have you built anything and actually experimented with the setup or is it you want to be handed the instructions with no clear understanding of what you are doing? Experimentation is a game of trial and error unless you have the ability to do this like Tesla did. For which I highly doubt you have an IQ that equals his or a mouse for that matter. Seeing that you have debased yourself into a simple troll making claims as bad as some of the ones you point out.

 P.S. Like I said before if you don't like it then there is the door.. We have learning and experimenting to do..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12137 on: June 23, 2012, 08:42:23 PM »
@Farmhand
 
     If you are a farmer I would imagine you have seeded a crop or two.  Did your seeding of the crop require more energy than the crop collected from the electromagnetic energy it captured and stored?    Does the hurricane obey the 2nd law of thermal dynamics?  How bout the tidal flow generators where tidal flow is funnelled into a gravity capacitor.  Be real man.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12138 on: June 23, 2012, 09:56:09 PM »
I' pretty much convinced   Tariel was using  Longitudinal waves of transmission.
I have personally witnessed  device working for 30 minutes.
TK device is  receiver and receiver only.
That is the bottom line.


Conclusion:
FE is never and never will be energy from nothing.
It will always be energy conversion.
So receiver must have one of two requirements fulfilled to be able to receive:
1.Presence of Man made transmitter
or
2. Presence of Source of electricity or energy to be converted to electricity that acts as transmitter or is employed  to act as transmitter.
 
LW should be seen as pressure wave or compression wave
LW does not transfer mass but pure energy.


In both cases LW is mandatory requirement ( is why we should examine  Eric Dollard, Tesla and Marconi.)


I'm pretty much  convinced that Marconi used Tesla  technology that was properly  examined and tested prior to big investment.
 I'm pretty much  convinced that RCA was created by governent to get to the bottom of Marconi site of new power station utilizing LW.
Just being able to build separate building on land occupied by Marconi  in so  very short time stands about rush or push from government.


Than over sudden all of this is shot down by government.
The critical period is 1919 to 1921.
At that time Tesla was already broken by J.P Morgan.


 Useful  source of electricity and proving interaction to ionosphere is telluric  current.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current
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Telluric currents can be harnessed to produce a useful low voltage current by means of earth batteries]. Such devices were used fortelegraph systems in the United States as far back as 1859. There is a major hotspot near Boston Common that actually diverted the construction of the Western Hemisphere's first subway system from Boylston to Park St in 1897.[citation needed]


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The currents are primarily geomagnetically induced currents, which are induced by changes in the outer part of the Earth's magnetic field, which are usually caused by interactions between the solar wind] and the magnetosphere or solar radiation effects on the ionosphere]. Telluric currents flow in the surface layers of the earth. The electric potential on the Earth's surface can be measured at different points, enabling us to calculate the magnitudes and directions of the telluric currents and hence the Earth's conductance. These currents are known to have[/size]diurnal characteristics wherein the general direction of flow is towards the sun.[2][3] Telluric currents will move between each half of the terrestrial globe at all times. Telluric currents move equator-ward (daytime) and pole-ward (nighttime)



connection is ionosphere and earth relation but only with respect to  electromagnetic waves


As all of the knowledge  about LW was removed, altered carefully erased than we should list what kind of  damage "they" did to us The People.
and what I need from you The People to find in any possible  places.


List of what should be , is not and need to be found:
1. records of Tesla experiments with LW
2 Records of Marconi experiments with LW
3. where are if any Marconi  diaries or notebooks?
4. from videos of Eric Dollard all of the  supporting documents ?
5. record of ownership of land (power station) in California for Marconi and/or lease  contract.
5. Drawings from county clerk  of property, lot number,
6. engineering data for the site.
7 records of any previous Marconi experiments prior to investment
8. all available written documents  of LW.
9. fallow the money RCA, Marconi records investors litigation , courts and so on.





Statement from Eric Dollard.
 
Power send equals power received at  the transmitter point if there is no load - no losses.


 so Power transmitted= Power  reflected but words transmitted and reflected are just words taken from electromagnetic  vocabulary and are incorrect. 


Two quotes from above stands for the fact of motion
Currents, solar influence, ionospheric  processes
Motion is what we need:
Capacitor is charged statically by motion.
If there is steady state there is no change  - magnetic filed of the magnet  is  at no electric value if magnet does not move or wire does not move or no any other influential  movement  happened


Since we do not have to pay  for Quoted above the movement than we have  electricity for free All we need is to couple to it as much as we can.
for that
We need  data
I'm doing my part  you do yours
hope it helps all of us.


Wesley
PS:Arunas made nice  comment about John Hutchinson levitation of an objects so to say "antigravity" and we are dealing with  pressure waves hmmmmmmm... compression wave

cardboard box squashed with your leg( foot) levels down ( fall down in time shorter than  free fall of a stone dropped from its  top (roof) like for example  from tall  towers :)hmmmmmmmmm... compression wave

towers foll down in much shorter time than free fall based on Dr Judy Wood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4N3Y4Jj6WU




 
« Last Edit: June 24, 2012, 02:51:35 AM by stivep »

Offline T-1000

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12139 on: June 23, 2012, 11:10:42 PM »
Guys,
Who else are doing experiments except itsu ant wattsup?  Would be interesting to see your results.

Each post with new theory here puts more dust on previous results. For example, which thread pages are relevant and have experiments results? I bet, it is hard to find anything here already, heh. I think this is a point why Farmhand made note in last post...

Cheers!


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12140 on: June 23, 2012, 11:22:23 PM »
Guys,

 bet, it is hard to find anything here already, heh. I think this is a point why Farmhand made note in last post...

Cheers!


Arunas :)


It is going to go somewhere anyhow.Any direction is somewhere, :)




Wesley

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12141 on: June 24, 2012, 12:05:44 AM »
There is slight possibility that Tariel tapped man made source of LW waves used to power UFO's but that's purely a speculation. I hope it is not true.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12142 on: June 24, 2012, 12:08:48 AM »
Hi @all.
Can somebody confirm, or at least verify if this work is valid? This is a work of Otto Sabljaric, very devoted member of this forum whose sudden death two years ago baffled his plans of finishing this job. This is only 13 pages of pretty scattered text and some his own drawings. Though this work is about the TPU, I guess it's related enough to the theme of this thread.
So, here it is:
Otto's TPU notes

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12143 on: June 24, 2012, 12:23:00 AM »
Hi @all.
Can somebody confirm, or at least verify if this work is valid? This is a work of Otto Sabljaric, very devoted member of this forum whose sudden death two years ago baffled his plans of finishing this job. This is only 13 pages of pretty scattered text and some his own drawings. Though this work is about the TPU, I guess it's related enough to the theme of this thread.
So, here it is:
Otto's TPU notes

Otto's theory may help if you know it.... He mentioned he had it that time.

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12144 on: June 24, 2012, 01:50:21 AM »
A simple solar panel is capable of out performing any device revealed in this thread for power out compared to power in over time.
Including the energy that was expended to produce the solar panel?

P.S.  @ all
This is a technical thread and not a place for psychoanalysis, sociology and bureaucracy (patents).  I have a lot to say about those matters too, but I keep it down to private messages, as not to distract the engineers and scientists here from technical details.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12145 on: June 24, 2012, 04:44:05 PM »
Including the energy that was expended to produce the solar panel?

P.S.  @ all
This is a technical thread and not a place for psychoanalysis, sociology and bureaucracy (patents).  I have a lot to say about those matters too, but I keep it down to private messages, as not to distract the engineers and scientists here from technical details.


 A technical thread? Please explain?


 Engineers & scientist? Most that are here are not of those two divisions. And since when have scientists or engineers not been concerned with All of the above mentioned points? It weighs heavy on all of the engineers and scientists. It is the exact reason they do not go forward and research into these fields.


 Example:


 http://www.rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm#5449989


 We as scientists or engineers must approach this subject based on all of the mentioned stoppages of our research because most are afraid of loosing any credibility based on those subjects. It needs to be addressed in all of these threads. We must change our system of don't go in that area because you will destroy your credibility. It is a must to discuss this all the way through our discoveries.


 If you read the above link you will see in figure 17 of the first section that Tesla did find a way to contain the discharge of the gap in an enclosed gas filled container and get the required power to run devices like the Tesla Roadster project. Unfortunately Tesla never got to patent this idea or it was blotted out to keep us addicted to his first system. One that by the way chains us to someone else supplying the power for which we would pay anything to keep.


 Read all the context of this new system from the link above and then try it for yourself. This is what I am gonna do. If you don't then how could anyone call themselves an engineer or scientist. We rely to heavily on videos as proof and to tell you the truth they are highly subject to deception, both in the working principle and the ability to fool people. As a scientist I rely on doing experiments to prove the facts to myself and no one else. A video after all can and will be deceptive. But an experiment that is done by you can not be so.


 As for the TK system. The only way to use that system atm is to lock it to the earth and not use it as a portable power system. This new system opens that up to unlock energy from the environment without tying it to earth. Maybe I should look for a thread based on the new system. If there isn't one already I should make a new thread and concentrate my investigations to that new approach.


 TK isn't sharing his discoveries so whats the point anymore?

 If you would like to keep on with this avenue then look here for some very interesting experiments that I have confirmed by experiment. It's in German I think??...

http://www.hcrs.at/KAPTRAFO.HTM

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12146 on: June 24, 2012, 07:17:10 PM »

@ all,

I Did some further testing with my capcoil.

# measured the temperature rise of the copper/alum. pipes.
   conclusion; its not the interaction between the metals.

# paralleled 2 capcoils (also put in series).
   conclusion; power is not coming from the grounds but from the kacher RF which is limited.

# tested a capcoil as closed loop (30uF cap, 360V SparkGap, 25W/220V bulb, 100 turn coil (awg 26) around the cap) exited by another coil (30 turns) around the capcoil.
  conclusion; after firing of the SG, some RF (fed by the Kacher) stays circulating inside this loop causing the SG to glow conduct/short?)

Video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shugSQP9nqM&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12147 on: June 24, 2012, 08:28:26 PM »
Otto's theory may help if you know it.... He mentioned he had it that time.

He mentioned he had what? A theory? To my knowledge he had several theories; two months ago I completed reading all his posts in English language (he had also some in German). In this document he describes particular experiments and thus creates another theory; this experiment is not mentioned anywhere in his posts. This russian site (http://realstrannik.ru/forum/29-tpu/267-tpu.html?limit=18&start=3276) presents Otto's earlier findings, and not this one (I did not find mentioning this document or these findings after reading about 100 pages).
In fact, I guess it's pretty easy to set this kind of experiment. Problem is, I do not have necessary equipment (at least a pulse generator) and rather don't consider buying one since it's rather expensive and I'm not professional in this field to use it for other projects. So, my intention here is to inspire somebody to help me (I can build the contraption).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12148 on: June 24, 2012, 09:13:01 PM »
@ all,

I Did some further testing with my capcoil.

# measured the temperature rise of the copper/alum. pipes.
   conclusion; its not the interaction between the metals.

# paralleled 2 capcoils (also put in series).
   conclusion; power is not coming from the grounds but from the kacher RF which is limited.

# tested a capcoil as closed loop (30uF cap, 360V SparkGap, 25W/220V bulb, 100 turn coil (awg 26) around the cap) exited by another coil (30 turns) around the capcoil.
  conclusion; after firing of the SG, some RF (fed by the Kacher) stays circulating inside this loop causing the SG to glow conduct/short?)

Video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shugSQP9nqM&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu


 Nice going Itsu.


 Ok what you have there is a charging cap but because you are using the AV plug it causes a buildup of positive energy an when it fires the gap it shorts and holds the connection open. Thats seems to me to be very interesting.


 Is it possible to move the one end of the bulb to the ground? The spark arrestor is only to protect your cap from over charging. You want to tap that charge from one side of the cap to the ground to use the load. you have it in between the internal coil and cap right?


 Another experiment is to not use the av plug at all. Will the cap charge that way with the arrestor across the cap? Then hook your load across the gap with no ground at all... the AV plug is acting like a virtual ground that allows circulation inside of the cap and I bet it is polarizing the cap as well. This might be useful but I don't think that is gonna work for this application.


 Just some ideas to try in your experiments.

 You might not want to use the katcher with the spark terminating into the copper pipe on the top. Try to use it only the way it worked the first time.

 If you use the AV plug just realize that it converts the signal to all one polarity or flow direction in the cap. If you do that you must use a dc load. Without the AV plug it should be used much like ac. The AV plug half rectifies the signal and changes the output to all one potential. The output of the katcher is most likely pulsed dc which is high voltage. This is an energizing voltage field. Anything within the field is energized like you originally discovered with the unconnected cap coil. You need to approach this from that point of view. If this is a singular polarity field then you need to design the load off of that fact.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12149 on: June 24, 2012, 10:40:18 PM »
Huh? What has happened to you Farmhand? First you are poisoning the energetic forum and now you come here trying to disuade people from figuring this out. Why bother? If you think this has no merit then move on you troll.. I used to think you were a pretty open minded individual. Now I know better.


 You don't like it then don't bother coming here.


What about the links I just posted that state they are using atmospheric energy to run the earth probing energies to find resources. A purely passive circuit.


 Lets think about this for a second here.


 Tesla made a working active way to transmit power over hundreds of miles with no connection other then the ground. Now build a hydro power station and hook that to it. IS THAT NOT FREE ENERGY? Other then the investment to the stuff needed for both stations and receivers the energy from a water fall is FREE! The transmission looses 5 percent at most..


 As to these other guys, we are investigating and trying to learn better ways to get what we need. If you can not help then go away please.

 AS to your P.S. Have you built anything and actually experimented with the setup or is it you want to be handed the instructions with no clear understanding of what you are doing? Experimentation is a game of trial and error unless you have the ability to do this like Tesla did. For which I highly doubt you have an IQ that equals his or a mouse for that matter. Seeing that you have debased yourself into a simple troll making claims as bad as some of the ones you point out.

 P.S. Like I said before if you don't like it then there is the door.. We have learning and experimenting to do..

As far as I am concerned it is you who does no experiments, you just waffle on.
You called me a troll and I am not so from now on after this post I will consider you a paid shill and ignore you.
I've built plenty of things and of my own design and they work as well, but my objective is not to gain energy from nothing.
You say I poisoned energetic forum. Haha poisoned it with what ? The truth !
You don't get to tell me where I go and what I do so check your ego sonny.
I encourage people to work it out. What I see is people just believing something is possible and try a million things
while encouraging others to think like them. I've exposed and explained a few things as fakes and how they are faked or could be
most don't like to accept the truth and so call me a troll. Their bad.
No one does themselves any favors by being gullible. The more I learn the more I can see how much BS is going on and who is doing it.
Where are your experiments ? Show us some.
Why is it not possible that Tariel is transmitting his own  energy from his own transmitter, and what we see is the receiver and the receiver only.
For any demonstration to be valid it must be done with a third party skilled to tell if there is
an undisclosed input or the experiment should be conducted at a neutral location. But Tariel doesn't want to share his device details does he.

I think it is important for people to say if they think something is a fake and how that could be so. That way there are less people taken into scams.
There are many scams and fakes are there not ?

I have a busted back and suffer agony every day but at the moment I am working on a picaxe controlled solar charge controller
that can make better use of low light and rain conditions to rejuvinate the battery during rain and low light, it uses a boost function
it kicks a regular charge controllers ASS in low light. I designed it myself built it myself and learned the code so I could write my own
programs. And I did and it works.  I am learning and building stuff that is useful.

You go away.

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