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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14954022 times)

Offline Shokac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12105 on: June 21, 2012, 03:43:17 PM »

Soon my friend soon I think.
I got some breakdown 5 days ago.
or should I  call it brake-up
That was positive event ....... the importance of LW rise to top of my priorities.



I spoke with TK many times  for the last 7 days..
Although he is reluctant to cooperate
I got some hints.


I urge you to concentrate on longitudinal waves
Analyze carefully Eric Dollard work.
Recently I was in contact with many Big Names.
Eric is the only person on planet earth who knows how to deal with LW.




Some of statements you will go across ,very controversial:
LW goes  across the earth without the losses
LW does not have wavelength ( well.. it does but somehow differentiated explanation of it)
LW can have  different speeds
LW can go faster than light.
LW does not use electricity till is associated with load.
LW  the energy send = energy returned  if there is no load.




Yes it is enough for traditional scientist to put  that all into denial.


Anyhow this is my input to this forum
I hope I will stimulate all of you  in  any possible way including my experiments


Happy long life  Arunas


Wesley


Wesley,



When you have worked with ferrites and mixed two frequencies, you said that you told TK that go in the right direction.
Now talking about LW and again you say that TK told you to go in the right direction.


Do not you think that these TK says the wrong information?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12106 on: June 21, 2012, 05:31:34 PM »
All the proposed approaches of Tesla, discussed here, are the ones that have been published. These technologies have nothing to do with alternative energy production. They were revolutionary then. They are now considered standard and some of them are even obsolete. The published Tesla technologies are, or were, intended for electrical energy generation (various dynamos), transformation, conversion or transmission and reception. They do not release or provide additional energy as understood here. This was shown over and over on this forum and other forums as well. This does not mean that these technologies cannot be used as helping tools in the construction of devices that do release additional energy. Tesla technologies that were used in these (additional energy releasing) devices, namely the magnifying transmitter and the Pierce Arrow power unit, are not in the public domain. Only a few managed to come across these technologies: Hubbard (who visited Tesla), Michel Meyer, Steven Mark, Floyd Sweet, Tariel Kapanadze, SR193, Magnacoaster and  W. McFreey. These inventors use this unpublished Tesla technology.
Happy birthday, T-1000.




That was interesting. I would like to know where did you find that Hubbard visited Tesla ? When did it happened ? All I could trace is that Tesla HAD some bussiness relationships in Pittsburg around 1918 maybe, but it's very unclear.
"These inventors use this unpublished Tesla technology." you are wrong I think, but let the future decide  ::)  Being inventive is not only to discover something which never existed, it's also when you bring apparently unrelated things and form something new and working....

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12108 on: June 21, 2012, 06:34:36 PM »
That was interesting. I would like to know where did you find that Hubbard visited Tesla ? When did it happened ? All I could trace is that Tesla HAD some bussiness relationships in Pittsburg around 1918 maybe, but it's very unclear.
"These inventors use this unpublished Tesla technology." you are wrong I think, but let the future decide  ::)  Being inventive is not only to discover something which never existed, it's also when you bring apparently unrelated things and form something new and working....
I agree, I should have written "worked with Tesla", but it was a short working period, so I wrote "visited".
This information can be found, for instance, here:
http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=952
Alfred Hubbard:
 In 1920, at the age of 19, Alfred Hubbard built a coil and motor that ran his boat 10 knots an hour on Portage Bay in Seattle. He called this ‘fuelless’ unit an ‘atmospheric power generator.’ Hubbard claimed it could operate for years; drive a large car; light an office building; and fly a plane around the world nonstop. Little is known about the Hubbard Coil. He was forced into obscurity because of what his motor would do to the present industries. “Since Alfred Hubbard worked with Tesla for a short period, it seems likely that his transformer is based on [information from] Tesla.”
The other part of your post does not need to be discussed here as it is discussed elsewhere (e.g. PJKBook). I may only add that as soon as you know the operation principle of one of these devices, you will be able to tell how the other devices work, despite of  differences in geometry, size or the number and position of windings.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12109 on: June 21, 2012, 08:28:53 PM »

Jbignes5,

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@Itsu could you try brass in the center of the Katcher coil instead of the copper tube?

I will look if i have any brass which i can use.

I made a combination of copper pipe and aluminium pipe, inside the kacher both with a slit, but no obvious effect noticed,
just a mild temperature rise of both.

By the way, the 1 turn primary did not work, very small streamer, so back to my 2 turn primary.

I received my 250V lightning arrestors, so time for some tests.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12110 on: June 21, 2012, 09:38:35 PM »
Jbignes5,

I will look if i have any brass which i can use.

I made a combination of copper pipe and aluminium pipe, inside the kacher both with a slit, but no obvious effect noticed,
just a mild temperature rise of both.

By the way, the 1 turn primary did not work, very small streamer, so back to my 2 turn primary.

I received my 250V lightning arrestors, so time for some tests.

Regards Itsu


 Ok I just wanted to know if any special effects would happen between the two metals. Make sure they are insulated from each other and read each metal for potential or voltage. If there is a difference then It might be possible to get a better reaction between the two like a power cell.


 Did you use a heavy multistranded primary? or could you try a parallel primary to reduce the resistance.


 Excellent news about the arrestors.. Fun times indeed..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12111 on: June 21, 2012, 09:56:49 PM »





 On another note. Does someone have a spectrum analyzer? We need to look at the lower spark gaps output. I am assuming it is a wide band emission . If it is, think about the band pass filters and those types of filters after the spark gap. Shunt the unused frequencies into a cap and feed that back to the input. The goal is to preserve the 60 hz for loads but strip off all the rest of the currents above and below to recycle back to the input via a bridge as input to the inverter.


 So we broadcast a wide band spark into an exciter element to ground. This induces a wide band signal into each coil inside of the coil. I think the spark gap is along the coils so that some of the wide band goes from the spark gap to the coils as well as the exciter coil.


 Just some ideas about the Kapanadze setup we are trying to figure out.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12112 on: June 22, 2012, 02:17:47 PM »

Wesley,



When you have worked with ferrites and mixed two frequencies, you said that you told TK that go in the right direction.
Now talking about LW and again you say that TK told you to go in the right direction.


Do not you think that these TK says the wrong information?


To make it clear
TK if he want to  give it away as he said he will , He would not give me directions or hints, but  whole information about it.


he has never willingly give me any hints. All of the hints are just my ability to get what is important out of his words.
Most of it is here on this forum.



I was trying to defend TK for years but I'm kind of  tired  to explain and  excuse TK.


Man has something in hand,
He really want that , what,  he do not really want
Contradiction in its pure form. Like sine wave.Next period is negative.
Or say  that what he want, next morning is not  an option.
Or it is  an  option that is exercised again and again with approach, of how much more would be an offer if there would be any  offer.
In  essence there is no offer, as any offer is an offer only for time being existing as an offer that is validated in his mind to the point Quote:"I agree."


I spend a lot of time trying to get real results in negotiation.
I have faced TK kindness and TK anger his approval and his disapproval,  repeatably again and again.


I'm tired of it.

He becomes alienated more and more form opportunity of heaving any investors


Anyone with money will have no insurance that  first device sold does not create immediate competition as there is no patent of TK



   
Last time I gave him big opportunity  that opportunity was not  offered to TK but to me personally.
I immediately contacted Aidas and Arunas

I stated that in my mind TK must have priority and I drag the vector of attention to TK.
Again I knew that with no patent humanity will get it  anyhow.
In the effect nothing happened.




Analyze his thinking pattern:


He has made his money  whatever he got  just from shows only.
When there was attention of the public he was  taking the biggest offerings, like spoiled child.
Just like kid.
and changing his mind like young lady.


The mechanism is simple: see what reaction would be if he ask for more.
Nothing wrong with that, but attractiveness of young lady  has its own limitations.
So the next factor was  recognition.


The more popular  he is the  more chances to perform his show for bigger money.
I admit I was the one who made a lot of  popularity  to him.


But  dear readers....that is  all  he  did.
Nothing  else.

He was getting some of money  prior to show and  some or nothing after the show.
I see it perfectly normal but if you  are an actor than everyone knows that this is just a movie , no matter how realistic but still  it is a movie.Just spectacle that  has its own  time frame and goal to achieve.


Now he has got no more  clients and as he acts like  young lady  he is trying to get whatever is in the horizont.
That might explain his frustration and 5 news video clips in this year 2012.

It looks like the clips have been authorized by TK himself to be published.
Just to keep his fame  going.

But Investors got smarter.
They no longer are willing to pay for the TK show only.

So the price for the show is lower and device that is presented is more and more covered.
Hydroelectric device for me is  not working without the same electric part as the electric  stand alone.
There is  an excuse of TK to present  hydroelectric as something new.
In reality it looks like it is not.

There is some advantage of refrigerator effect that is standing  OU.
But real device of TK is electrical  one.


I wish him the best but I can not any longer deal with all  of these  what above and below.


Some of Arabs will be happy reading that  comment but  not for long :)
I wish them the best  too. :)
Excluding oil guys  :)


 




 


 




He in his mind believes that everyone want to steal  it from him.


Well YES he is right.
I agree. Grab the money if there is any dear TK


What is wrong with that? ??? ??
Let them have it even for free dear TK and let them  make profit on it.
What good is to have it and do not use it and die with it?


One unique future of it is that this  intellectual property , could be sold only one time or given away for free.


I told him: apart of fame and money you can  manufacture it as  well,and sale license to your Name for  say  1 year, How much money is to little money? AND HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?


Now I have become his biggest worry.He is convinced  that I'm the only man in the planet earth that is so close, so incredibly  close and is the most educated in this subject to brake  the secret.



He tend to have friends in the past who have been totally uneducated and incapable in subject of OU.
So they are good in other areas of life... that does not  bring him any harm.






Although my approach is noble ,He do not understand that only 10% of the world population is immediately ready to  start  manufacture this device. Enough money for   everyone.
He does not understand that his patent application has priority and will eventually lead him to get patent and power that this patent  will give to him.But only if people widely will be able to reproduce this device.


Also anyone else including me who find the secret independently of TK will give him rights to his patent but only if TK will be able to prove that this is based on his  patent application.


Another fact is that nobody will be  ever able to patent anything based on Tesla that is in the area of FE ever.
His patent application with  its content is striping anyone of you and me to from  that opportunity.


This is reality  .. you like it or not that is how it is.




 I'm giving you new direction and I want you to fallow my thinking with your experiments.
I know what I'm talking about and you THE PEOPLE have choice .





I also know why I direct you to Longitudinal Waves  and why I attach it specifically to TK device
YES I KNOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 



All of the equations and theory of LW should be here  exactly in the topic of TK
All of the videos information  experiments apparatus description  should be here .


Do not forget
We have  year 2012








   







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Stivep

I think TK wanted very basic support : to have anything which is requied to work on this invention for many many years , and it's not much IMHO. Every inventor I heard had wanted the same : to give him opportunity to work on it to invent more to joy and share without worrying about paying bills or taxes. Having a team of honest friends and enjoy life with passion and mission. Don't you think it's not too much ?



No I do not think is to much.
The problem is human nature.
My wife is  a  professional with proper education in this subject.


There is no  and never will be equilibrium in regards to state of expectation of an individual if surrounding factors change and progress.
Period.
 
First is idea
than
- experiments
-results
-evaluation in  inventor's mind
-calculation of opportunity
-expectations  at that point  are driven by the present state of opportunities.


 There is another important factor.
-inventor is trying  to show himself/herself as "more that he is at that given time" and more that he can at that  given time  .






Wesley
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12113 on: June 22, 2012, 03:10:50 PM »
Stivep

I think TK wanted very basic support : to have anything which is requied to work on this invention for many many years , and it's not much IMHO. Every inventor I heard had wanted the same : to give him opportunity to work on it to invent more to joy and share without worrying about paying bills or taxes. Having a team of honest friends and enjoy life with passion and mission. Don't you think it's not too much ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12114 on: June 22, 2012, 03:20:29 PM »
Weslay is correct about one thing : this is all about longitudinal standing wave ...
I re-read Tesla notes about his Colorado Springs experiments when he found stationary waves from lighthing.
Now there is something very important about HOW HE MEASURED IT...

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« Reply #12115 on: June 22, 2012, 03:21:10 PM »
    Does the spark gap have to supply current to the system?   Why couldn't it just capacitavely couple to the system.  Coronal discharge is emitted from each electrode.  The plasma grows from each electrode towards each other.  When the plasma conjoins in the gap the capacitance and resistance and inductance drop to zero.  But say the plasma never creates a complete connection between supply and primary.  Haven't you in effect passed the charge of the supply into the primary of your transformer without discharging the supply capacitor.  This is not a closed electrical circuit so all laws pertaining to closed circuits or systems are fucking null and void.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12116 on: June 22, 2012, 03:47:45 PM »
Weslay is correct about one thing : this is all about longitudinal standing wave ...
I re-read Tesla notes about his Colorado Springs experiments when he found stationary waves from lighthing.
Now there is something very important about HOW HE MEASURED IT...

  Forrest did the lightning storm create the standing waves or were the standing waves there to begin with.  They became detectable because the electrical information of the lightning strikes were riding them.  It took 20 minutes for Tesla to hear the echos from the first sensed ligtning event.  He kept on "hearing" the electrical noise from the 1st lightning strike over and over again.  The MT was going to be a mechanical oscillator to increase the amplitude of the natural acoustical waves present in the Earth.  Thats why the extensive anchoring of the tower.  That big ball on top of the tower was going to get liighter and heavier depending on how many electrons it had residing in it's mass compared to the lack of electrons residing in it's mass.  The MT was multifunctional but Tesla was connecting the dots between electrical forces and gravitational forces way before Einstein gave up.
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12117 on: June 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM »
To make it clear
TK if he want to  give it away as he said he will , He would not give me directions or hints, but  whole information about it.
I was trying to defend TK for years but I'm kind of  tired  to explain and  excuse TK.
Wesley

Wesley

You have done way more than is expected of anyone in trying to defend and promote TK.
Do not ever feel bad about stopping defending TK.

I agree with everything in your last post.
You did everything humanly possible to help TK get the recognition he deserves.
You can only lead a horse to the water.  You cannot make it drink the water.

God Bless you for all you have done in protecting and trying to help TK.

DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12118 on: June 22, 2012, 04:26:59 PM »

  Forrest did the lightning storm create the standing waves or were the standing waves there to begin with.  They became detectable because the electrical information of the lightning strikes were riding them.  It took 20 minutes for Tesla to hear the echos from the first sensed ligtning event.  He kept on "hearing" the electrical noise from the 1st lightning strike over and over again.  The MT was going to be a mechanical oscillator to increase the amplitude of the natural acoustical waves present in the Earth.  Thats why the extensive anchoring of the tower.  That big ball on top of the tower was going to get liighter and heavier depending on how many electrons it had residing in it's mass compared to the lack of electrons residing in it's mass.  The MT was multifunctional but Tesla was connecting the dots between electrical forces and gravitational forces way before Einstein gave up.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances


 Earth and the conductive ionosphere acts as a closed waveguide. The limited dimensions of the Earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the ELF band. The cavity is naturally excited by electric currents in lightning. Schumann resonances are the principal background in the electromagnetic spectrum[1] beginning at 3  Hz and extend to 60 Hz,[2] and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.86 (fundamental),[/size][3] 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.[/size][4][5]


TK told me :
16Hz
All you will have around is just  16 hz


Shumann = Schumann resonances are the principal background in the electromagnetic spectrum [1] beginning at 3  Hz and extend to 60 Hz,[/font][2] and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.86 (fundamental) [3] 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.[/font][4][5]


7.86 (fundamental)= first harmonic say close to 8Hz
8x2 =16 got it?


Count frequency of spark in  TK aquarium  presentation please!!!








Wesley






Helping literature  is just fallow my viewing history by going into my channel YouTube stivep1


or by typing  names of links below in YouTube.
You can exclude all Russian links from history below as not in primary value in terms of importance.




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12119 on: June 22, 2012, 05:13:11 PM »

 Wesley,


 We have talked about this before but I would like to bring up one point. What if we discover the principle. What then? Does TK get anything? Except our undying gratitude. Because energy will not be an issue and it will be taken off the commodity list to sell. The idea is to break the cycle of our enslavement and TK is resisting this break to hold out for a few bucks? Why?


 If this technology works as stated then how much will energy be worth? Nothin, nadda, zip. Well how much is the device worth then? Nothing nadda Zip... Besides making the devices it will open up true freedom. The freedom to say I have had enough and move to a better place. Thats what "They" do not want. They enslave us by saying we are free but in the long run that freedom is entirely based on the amount of money in your pocket. With this technology we can continue to grow and learn at the fastest possible rate and attain a freedom that is unparalleled in History.


 But as usual there is a guy standing there with his hand out. Selling tickets to a world that might be and holding all our wishes hostage.


 I can't say much about TK since I havent talked or met the man in person. I can not make a personal connection and trust he is legit because of that. You on the other hand have talked with him. You in my opinion know way more then anyone about this subject. With me, it is only looking in from the outside. Making guesses as to the operation of this device.


 Plus no matter what he does if one iota of this is due to Tesla then he has no rights to patents and also there is the fact that the governments have made it impossible to patent a device that is perpetually running. There is no give from a system that needs slaves to run it.


 If everyone sat down for 1 week and refused to participate "they" would go bankrupt and the flimsy grip they have on all of us would evaporate and we would be able to pick up and continue with a new set of life values and rules. But that only happens if WE all do this. I highly doubt that would be the case. Crap TK can't even just say here is a new principle that we all can benefit from and not just Him...

 David Ike has it right we desire the truth but there is a major factor deceiving us into thinking we are not the gods. We are limited from day one with the teachings of "you can't do that" because nothing would be of value, especially the worthless paper they shove down our throats. It used to be that the paper was backed with real value. It was backed by gold and silver. You could walk into any bank and demand they trade the paper for gold or silver but now they have separated the two and it is worthless. It means very little to them and they just print more when needed. Is this right?