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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14388485 times)

Offline wasabi

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12015 on: June 15, 2012, 05:20:27 PM »
What about conical bifilars?

The Yoke device had a conical bifilar winding.

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OPENSOURCE PLAN http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg this is combi
« Reply #12016 on: June 15, 2012, 08:23:12 PM »
OPENSOURCE PLAN

http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg

this is combination of------electromagnet   +   magnetMotor
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OPENSOURCE PLAN http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg this is combi
« Reply #12017 on: June 15, 2012, 08:25:09 PM »
OPENSOURCE PLAN

http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg

this is combination of------electromagnet   +   magnetMotor
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.
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LINOAVAC, thanks
HOME; http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/

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« Reply #12018 on: June 15, 2012, 08:26:06 PM »
OPENSOURCE PLAN

http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg

this is combination of------electromagnet   +   magnetMotor
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LINOAVAC, thanks
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12019 on: June 15, 2012, 09:03:12 PM »
why is he spamming our board?

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12020 on: June 15, 2012, 10:55:48 PM »

Personally, if someone has something to say or post, I have the time to listen or read what is offered.

Lest something of importance be missed or passed over.

Regards...



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12021 on: June 15, 2012, 11:06:14 PM »

A cheap CB Linear Amplifier can also be a powerful source of fast pulses.  It's good up to 27MHz.



No it is good for nothing.
CB or Ham Radio amplifier is tuned based on  swithible   "pi" filters.
Each of them  has a certain bandwidth.
At this bandwidth you have always only one frequency of maximum pick.
classes
A,
B,
AB,
C,
Modulations SSB or AM or listed below.



Ham Radio
SSB=2.4KHz
AM=6KHz
A1 (CW) 400 to 600 Hz
A2 modulated carrier 1.2 to 2KHz
The more narrow is the signal the more narrow is  tuning of  amplifier.


For comparison spectral components of plasma  of 250kHz generator is  roughly 10Hz to 1.5 GHz.
Pick of 240 KHz plasma  has bandwidth  of  50khz but mostly specified by parameters of spark ( material, medium, distance, voltage)
Pick of 1MHz plasma has  bandwidth  in pick  specified only by parameters of  spark.
We can vary pick of bandwidth of plasma   but we will have big problem to stabilize it and impedance matching as well.

27 MHZ is simply waste of money and time.
Typical characteristic  at band pass filter for say wide  band 3.5- 4MHz ( 80 meters)
is frequency of tunable pi filter ( capacitor, coil, capacitor.)
equals up to 40% of losses at the edges of it if you do not re tune the pick frequency to  particular frequency of transmitter within that bandwidth. But that also depends from characteristic of resonance circuit that is represented by our antenna.( such as dipole, inverted V, Yagi, .........loop- hmmm. loop is good  high voltage ........and so on)
Modern method is just use   band pass filters switchable  by relay say 3 of them but than we are dealing with significant power say 100W for filters to withhold.


But only if load is steady in parameters. Period.


Also frequency of response does not only depend  from pi filter but from impedance of the load.


when we deal with spark than load is and must be  understand as capacitive load ( high voltage, low current)
Nature of the spark  is unstable and impedance is uncertain, frequency response is unstable and wide.
The good is that it is us who pushes spark to respond at certain frequency
In practice  we need to automatically adjust gap to keep it steady or manufacture spark gap for the specific frequency of response ( bandwidth) That is only possible for ready to use out of shelf device that we do not have it  yet.
Pre tuning could be done  by decreasing gap distance.
But when we have plasma flow than we have to adjust again to match  to temporary stage of plasma and pi filter and reverse.


Automatic tuning could be done using triodes when one of them is used as generator with coupled coil in the cathode that is influenced by another coil at output circuit.
Schematic is available  from Aidas but I have to ask him for authorization before I will publish it.
Or just ask Arunas T-1000   to contact Aidas.


summary :
 proposed amplifier will not  work  and will never work,
Not even for a second as impedance of output is 50 Ohm directed to inductive character load.
VSWR due to mismatch in capacitive load must than affect output of the amplifier  transistor and that one must be prepared to handle high voltages of capacitive load.



all you going to have is only  broken parts .


supporting material:
http://www.advanced-energy.com/upload/file/white_papers/eng-white18-270-02.pdf
http://www.icpig.uni-greifswald.de/proceedings/data/Dine_1
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA426684
Design, fabrication, and impedance of plasma wave detectors
http://nano.ece.uci.edu/papers/PSI59950M.pdf


Wesley


 


 
« Last Edit: June 16, 2012, 12:07:51 AM by stivep »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12022 on: June 16, 2012, 12:01:36 AM »
 Ok so I was thinking again about motors and I think the Tesla motor generator operates on the same premise of the lines. If lines are forming 90 degrees out of the wires then they would also be 3d as well. The fingers or lines generally form around wires in 2,4,6,8 and soo on. Always in pairs depending on the voltage value at that spot on the wire. These fingers get stiffer the higher the voltage goes and with the compressing nature of a circle from going into the center they compress and intensify cutting through the heavy rotor coils. Since the magnetic field is locked in the toroid core there is only the electric field left. Any bemf would be so weak that it wouldn't matter anymore and the motor runs way more efficiently. The heavy magnetic field will lock to the core around it and the heavy current field would induce a very high voltage field in the surrounding coil. This thing would be transforming in waves inside.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12023 on: June 16, 2012, 01:20:21 AM »
Quote
why is he spamming our board?
Last attempt to cover over the truth of Kapanadze device? :o

Anyway, interesting stuff so far. Here a few more things to consider:

1) All hidden electronic equipment should fit in a round tin can with approx. 13cm diameter and 10cm height
2) The precision of the circuitry should match the (non-existent) precision of the 2004 coil
3) No high-tech parts, the circuit arrangement is most likely build out of junk parts from age old consumer electronics
4) There are no magnets at or near the spark gaps visible in Kapanadze videos
5) Neither the spark gap nor the helical coil have parallel-connected capacitors
6) There is nothing visible to electronically fine-adjust anything

My next realizations I have come to:

Changing the spark frequency slightly changes the amplitude of the resonating wave, but not dramatically. My clearest resonance is currently around 170KHz.

When I connect my oscilloscope to the bifilar secondary coil, then I get the waveform as shown in the previous image. But this is only true when the ground of the test probe is connected to the opposite side of the exciter coil (left side in Kapanadze 2004 setup), when I reverse the connection the amplitude of the resonating wave goes to minimum.

When the amplitude of the wave is high, touching the exciter coil reduces the amplitude. When the amplitude of the wave is low (+ and - reversed), touching the exciter coil increases the amplitude (but not to unreversed level).

My oscilloscope has no earth connection (have cut it on the power cable), hence what causes the different measurements? The metallic mass (shielding, housing) of the oscilloscope perhaps? Could this be the searched Kapanadze effect? If so, how to get power out of this effect?

Regards

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12024 on: June 16, 2012, 01:38:34 AM »
@Zeitmaschine: I made a long post, then I saw that you are using the bifilar correctly, as Telsa had it, not as a hairpin, so my post was irrelevant.
Your amplitude is varying because of the changing capacitance with respect to ground, caused by the mass of metal in the oscilloscope or by your body.

Please don't touch a properly working secondary, it will hurt !!

I've never had much success using bifilars as secondaries. But as primaries the benefit is obvious, compared to a normal pancake coil.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12025 on: June 16, 2012, 08:57:02 AM »
Last attempt to cover over the truth of Kapanadze device? :o

Anyway, interesting stuff so far. Here a few more things to consider:

1) All hidden electronic equipment should fit in a round tin can with approx. 13cm diameter and 10cm height
2) The precision of the circuitry should match the (non-existent) precision of the 2004 coil
3) No high-tech parts, the circuit arrangement is most likely build out of junk parts from age old consumer electronics
4) There are no magnets at or near the spark gaps visible in Kapanadze videos
5) Neither the spark gap nor the helical coil have parallel-connected capacitors
6) There is nothing visible to electronically fine-adjust anything

My next realizations I have come to:

Changing the spark frequency slightly changes the amplitude of the resonating wave, but not dramatically. My clearest resonance is currently around 170KHz.

When I connect my oscilloscope to the bifilar secondary coil, then I get the waveform as shown in the previous image. But this is only true when the ground of the test probe is connected to the opposite side of the exciter coil (left side in Kapanadze 2004 setup), when I reverse the connection the amplitude of the resonating wave goes to minimum.

When the amplitude of the wave is high, touching the exciter coil reduces the amplitude. When the amplitude of the wave is low (+ and - reversed), touching the exciter coil increases the amplitude (but not to unreversed level).

My oscilloscope has no earth connection (have cut it on the power cable), hence what causes the different measurements? The metallic mass (shielding, housing) of the oscilloscope perhaps? Could this be the searched Kapanadze effect? If so, how to get power out of this effect?

Regards


Before you end up with frustration and anger watch again all TK videos pause frequently and ask yourself why is something happening like presented.... We dismiss some important tips and tend to think own (sometimes complicated) path

Offline energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12026 on: June 16, 2012, 11:54:13 AM »
a video will not be enough for replication....
for a replication you will need proper understanding of the way it works.
however donald smith lies, he is right about one thing.  several tuned tesla coils will be excited near the tuned sender.
however they will not duplicate energy..
but if you are taking power from them it will not affect input to sender.
which logically is the key to kapanadze,
as a condensed energy which not react upon the source can be added with primary energy because the sender does not notice energy taken from it, the energy is conserved on nearby objects and in earth if no pickup coils are used, energy is not in the dimension anymore which can affect sender, making the output greater .. . .
Thanks to the capacitor this is possible.   a condensed energy will not react on the system but add additional energy to it.

This will only work only with electrostatic energy. 
many describe this very simple operating principle
they all say its dead simple and most guys cant get it right because they think its that hard!
in fact..... DONT THINK..
In one of the videos Donald Smith showed a copper and an aluminium plate,  he showed how can he draw a spark from it and he showed this so to show you there is no disturbance on the input to the sender coil
This is it.
very simple.!
this man also confirms it  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu84y83_AYg



nmr or whatever complex waves you guys are talking about makes no sense
they will not attract special anomaly , nor bifiliar caduceus or whatever ,  just because they have parasitic capacitances they dont mean to have higher energy outputs or whatever.
everybody is a bit naive and never research on facts.
dont fight with me,
you will realise sooner or later that your time is WASTED if you are not thinking simply and logically.

peace

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12027 on: June 16, 2012, 12:27:15 PM »
No it is good for nothing.
Hey, I merely mentioned them - this was not a complete instruction how to use RF amplifiers in this application.

CB or Ham Radio amplifier is tuned based on  swithible   "pi" filters.
Each of them  has a certain bandwidth.
You are correct.
...bit my complete instructions of using these amplifiers would include cutting out the output filter and connecting a load impedance matching RF transformer directly to G or H or A or AB output stage.

With the A or G class amplifiers there is no crossover distortion, hence linearity is good enough at the cost of big heatsinks in the A class.  The operating frequency of the transisors in these amps extends into 100MHz and they are perfectly capable of amplifying signals in the 5Mhz, 50W regime.  I remind you that the Yoke device used much less RF input power than that.
Furthermore, amplifying fast rectangular pulses, often is sufficient, making the sine waveform amplification linearity of the AB and H calsses - relatively unimportant.

Doing the above is good for something  because these amplifiers, albeit not perfect, are mass produced and cheap - cheaper than e.g.: $300 PA107U_F integrated circuit, alone.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2012, 02:38:00 PM by verpies »

Offline Shokac

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12028 on: June 16, 2012, 12:44:08 PM »
a video will not be enough for replication....
for a replication you will need proper understanding of the way it works.
however donald smith lies, he is right about one thing.  several tuned tesla coils will be excited near the tuned sender.
however they will not duplicate energy..
but if you are taking power from them it will not affect input to sender.
which logically is the key to kapanadze,
as a condensed energy which not react upon the source can be added with primary energy because the sender does not notice energy taken from it, the energy is conserved on nearby objects and in earth if no pickup coils are used, energy is not in the dimension anymore which can affect sender, making the output greater .. . .
Thanks to the capacitor this is possible.   a condensed energy will not react on the system but add additional energy to it.

This will only work only with electrostatic energy. 
many describe this very simple operating principle
they all say its dead simple and most guys cant get it right because they think its that hard!
in fact..... DONT THINK..
In one of the videos Donald Smith showed a copper and an aluminium plate,  he showed how can he draw a spark from it and he showed this so to show you there is no disturbance on the input to the sender coil
This is it.
very simple.!
this man also confirms it  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu84y83_AYg



nmr or whatever complex waves you guys are talking about makes no sense
they will not attract special anomaly , nor bifiliar caduceus or whatever ,  just because they have parasitic capacitances they dont mean to have higher energy outputs or whatever.
everybody is a bit naive and never research on facts.
dont fight with me,
you will realise sooner or later that your time is WASTED if you are not thinking simply and logically.

peace


I agree with you

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12029 on: June 16, 2012, 12:52:25 PM »
Nature of the spark  is unstable and impedance is uncertain, frequency response is unstable and wide.
The good is that it is us who push spark to respond at certain frequency
In practice  we need to automatically adjust gap to keep it steady or manufacture spark gap for the specific frequency of response ( bandwidth)
Yes - for an uncontrolled spark. That's is why spark gaps have been obsoleted by RF transistors and tubes in HF RF output stages.  I am not a proponent of spark switching but I respond to others here that are.

For those - sparks can be controlled via various triggering schemes like in Flash Tubes without varying the spark gap's distance.