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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 14213399 times)

Offline jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11955 on: June 11, 2012, 07:12:26 PM »

@jbignes5
do you have some idea how to do some kind of experiment?


 Well we already have evidence and experiments with the avramenko plug. The Kapanadze system would be the other. It uses a bidirectional pair to ground to separate the positive and negative static charges that are in the ground or earth. When you polarize the flows by running the bifilar coil in the middle of the hv coil one can see the separation via induction from the source well of Our planets static charge. We know there is a lot of rubbing going on inside of the core. This generates heat and a huge static potential to form. This potential of accumulated charges can be drawn from the source by exposing it to the hv electric field of the solenoid coil wrapped around the inner bifilar ground coils. Check my wiring diagram and see if it makes sense. This system would be the proof of that concept.

 The one thing kapanadze didn't show was the voltage difference of thew two ground spots. I bet one was neutral and the other was highly charged via the bipolar grounding to each other. Once the system is on it works on it's own through the inertia of the charges between the two ground spots.

 That means once the load gets too big it will suck down the difference and eventually stop self oscillating. So these systems will have a definite cap to the output of a given unit based on the construction and materials.


 For those that did not see my diagram here it is again. The only thing I have left to figure out is if the solenoid coil is connected to ground 2 or 1 at the low end or the high end. Picture below:


 I think I"m very close to figuring out why the magnetic spark gap is soo good. It increases the resistance to back flow current after the breakdown of the air across the gap. It does not allow current to return at all. This might be why it was so useful as a variable diode in the discharge circuits. Everything can be adjusted then to the return pulse, magnetic polarization of the air allows the space to become resistant to alignment and feedback. It's the perfect one way valve. This can create a constant pressure or vacuum if one wanted. Wow Tesla was really smart in that area. His favorite thing to do was make his own vacuum tubes.

 We also have to remember if we want pressure we must shield or reflect it back into itself and not let it leak out where it would depressurize the system.

 Hmm the picture seems to be a ground loop feedback circuit. the second picture eerily looks like the polarized version or Avramenko plug

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11956 on: June 11, 2012, 08:48:17 PM »
 Now from seeing the ground loop system in a circuit makes sense really to what Tesla did. He knew antennas we virtual grounds or acted like grounds. The main antenna or source ground is in the back of lets say a Pierce arrow. With two smaller surface antennas on the box. Two magnitzed steel rods being the other grounds. The taller antenna has much more surface area then the smaller ones and hence sreads out the value it's charged to in even spacial excitation. These separate and get attracted to the appropriate polarity of magnet sticking out of the box. Put an exciter coil around the main line to source ground and you can pulse the whole system now. Every pulse causes an intensifying of the fields and they grow until they touch the magnets. A polarized flow should happen and each side will be caused to have a difference of voltage.


 The antenna theory and intensifying effects of going from larger to smaller surface area is very intrinsic to our understandings already through RF technology. But this won't be RF per say. It is like RF but works out of phase of the regular theory. We are trying to ignor the magnetic and only use the band of current that responds to higher voltages. This is because the loss goes way down when you can restrict the resistance of the driving system.


 Using the Tesla radiant receiver coils as a very low loss capacitor seems to be the best choice because we can stack them and every time we do they lower the esr of the unit. Of course oil will have to be used with these coil/caps because this will extend their capabilities much further along the scale of voltage spikes we will be using.

 The radiant receiver coils in my opinion are accelerators of charges. We can simulate these charges by using a spark gap. Once it is fired the lower the resistance ofr the path the higher the effects you get because the charge is not slowed down but sped up. This is why Tesla used the bifilar coil as another receiver of the pulse. Then all he had to do was shot it once and two different polarities came out of the end of the secondary coils. One for each polarity. This was the special coil I have shown many many times and is well documented in his lectures as well.

 http://www.jensen-transformers.com/an/generic%20seminar.pdf A good pdf of ground loops and reducing the noise ground loops cause. This might be helpful to understand what they do and how to allow this to happen in our systems.

From another source comes this:

"Even a very small induced voltage can cause a very large current in a ground conductor loop, because the resistance (and inductance) are very low. These currents can indeed be tens of amps. Current induction can be caused for example by cables carrying high currents and from transformers."

 "The amount of current that can be induced into the loop for a given magnetic field is related to the area of the loop. Keeping the two interconnects distant from each other creates a large loop area resulting in larger currents. Keeping them close together reduces the loop area and the subsequent currents, however this situation has implications for increased crosstalk.

The sources of alternating magnetic fields which can induce currents into the loop can be anything from loudspeaker cables and AC power cords, to television sets and computer monitors, to fluorescent light ballasts and electric motors, and, unavoidably, the AC power lines in our homes."

Am I reading this stuff right?

 "What is a Ground Loop?
A Ground Loop (not a particularly intuitive term) arises in a system when points nominated as Grounds are at different potentials (for various reasons) AND there is more than one electrical path connecting these Grounds AND signal lines are connected in such a way that circulating ground currents are able to flow through one or more signal conductors.
The resulting current that flows in the loop can be very large - in extreme cases hundreds of amps - but is more commonly less than 500 mA. The voltage drop along the wire that is part of the measurement circuit is impressed on the signal voltage thus causing the error. Because this current is variable, it cannot be "calibrated out""

 Hundreds of amps?


 "If back EMF simply appeared as high frequency, short duration voltage spikes, it would be
relatively easy to filter using small, high frequency capacitors (such as polyester film
capacitors). However, since the back EMF voltage is acting through the relatively low
resistance motor winding (0.1 to 10 ohms are typical), the back EMF voltage spikes also
produce a significant "***current spike*** with enough energy that a large capacitive filter ***or Capcoil(bifilar coil in oil design)*** is
necessary."

 My own focus comments with *** around it.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 11:16:12 PM by jbignes5 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11957 on: June 11, 2012, 11:20:12 PM »
@all

Regarding the Tesla Transmission of Energy (TTE) as @ronotte has shown, you have a TTE transmitter (TTET) and one or more TTE receiver(s) (TTER) right.

OK, so what if the TTER was not used to run a load, but instead used to run an OU device as the main feed having both input energy and "inherent" frequency all in one. Like a long distance optocoupler.

Even further, what if SM (not related to TK) ran his devices in this manner with a central TTET that was just strong enough to start and run the impulse and also provide the pulse frequency to his OU devices. The OU device would produce the final output. Anyone trying to measure any energy transmission going on around the device would not catch anything strong enough to warrant the output of the device so they say there was no transmission of this energy to the device, but maybe it was just a small transmission just to keep it running without worrying about blowing any mosfets. He even indicated that the circumference of the unit determined the frequency.

Imagine with one TTET, how may pulse circuits would that replace on the TTER. One TTET could run how many Joule Thiefs while the JT would not require transistors or diodes until the energy exits to a dioded load cap.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11958 on: June 12, 2012, 01:05:20 AM »
In accordance with the revered teachings of  Georg Simon Ohm, these voltages while quite low are capable of generating significant current flow.  It is then these “looping” currents that create the unwanted noise by impressing their signature on low level signals, usually in the form of common mode noise.


 This is mind blowing. Is this what Maxwell knew and was removed from the equations?

 Does this mean making a core out of copper like a toroid is the best core?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11959 on: June 12, 2012, 01:18:19 AM »
Anyone trying to measure any energy transmission going on around the device would not catch anything strong enough to warrant the output of the device so they say there was no transmission of this energy to the device, but maybe it was just a small transmission just to keep it running without worrying about blowing any mosfets. He even indicated that the circumference of the unit determined the frequency.
I was hired once to investigate a TPU type setup designed to milk investors.
I caught the deception with simple 3D search coils and a portable scopemeter - there was a large winding under the floorboards and the DUT was the secondary of an air-core transformer ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11960 on: June 12, 2012, 02:00:31 AM »
This can only mean that Zeitmaschine "hat den Artikel überhaupt nicht gelesen". :)
Doch hat er, at least twice. But since McFreey has only principles to offer instead of working devices, these principles are most likely wrong.

There is no proof the Kapanadze device works with ferrite and there is no proof any ferrite device works at all.

Please allow me the following question: If the Kapanadze device uses a ferrite/magnetic core (as depicted in the McFreey drawing below) then where is this ferrite core located in the large devices (see TMZ images)? Is it located within the coil of approx. the height of two meters (yellow tent) and the diameter of approx. one third of a meter? This would be a lot of ferrite, wouldn't it? (and for sure not available in this size at the next radio dealer)

The shunt-theory seems to be wrong also. To me this blue rod looks rather like a simple lightning arrester.

So keep on making mistakes, maybe someday one mistake is actually going to work. :D

Now, what's next? Perhaps constructing something easy like an »anti-gravity coil«?

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=anti+gravity+coil

With a little bit of (bad) luck it will produce free energy instead of free anti-gravity.

Regards

P.S.: And yes, closely observed the silver TMZ coils looking like a coil in a coil, wound with flat wire (just as in the tent) and therefore most likely in bifilar design. What could this mean?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11961 on: June 12, 2012, 05:06:27 AM »
Doch hat er, at least twice. But since McFreey has only principles to offer instead of working devices, these principles are most likely wrong.
...
I am sorry, I did not expect this lengthy a reply. Besides, I did not know Zeitmaschine had a working device to offer. :)
I cannot speak for McFreey, but I could not find anywhere in his article a shunt theory as depicted in your response. He only talks of a shunt as created by the disk or ring, placed within the coil, as can be seen in Fig.1 (yellow coloured). Magnetic core does not mean ferrite only, it can be iron foil, for instance, and there is plenty of space under these windings for this.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11962 on: June 12, 2012, 02:06:51 PM »
Without credible power measurements or an independently replicated/verified self-runner we can't be sure of a "working device" - videos are not enough (see my TPU deception in previous message)
Nontheless McFreey's analysis is the only analysis making sense, that I have seen so far.
Ferromagnetism and beta/delta rays stimulated emission and magnetic confinement in solid matter are unexplored and promising phenomena.
Contrastingly, coreless quarter wave helical resonators are old news and have been beaten to death already.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11963 on: June 12, 2012, 02:50:22 PM »
I cannot speak for McFreey, but I could not find anywhere in his article a shunt theory as depicted in your response
Shunt theory is on p. 461 PJKbook version 21.4 (very voluminous to keep people busy), author unclear, think Patrick J. Kelly.

But now, since my device is not working (yet), it is time for some considerations:

1) Initially Kapanadze tries to build an anti-gravity device
2) Instead of anti-gravity he suddenly gets free energy
3) This means the 2004 coil is not optimized for producing energy
4) There is no guarantee the 2004 orange wire is not bifilar too
5) TMZ modifies the coil(s) for easy (and big) construction and maximum energy output
6) Result is a coil placed within another coil, maybe both bifilar
7) All coils are plain single layer

Putting this together: Wind two coils with bifilar wire, single layer and different tube diameters. Put one coil into the other coil. Or: Wind both bifilar wires on one tube, each single layer. Surround this with an exciter coil.

What do we have: A Tesla coil with two secondaries, each of them bifilar.

Regrettably I have no idea (yet) how to connect this (and to what), but at least winding such coils should not cause much trouble.

Regards

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11964 on: June 12, 2012, 04:34:07 PM »
 The inner is a bifilar but it is for the grounds. It is what gives the ground polarity and a direction of flow. It is the valve basically. It controls the direction via direction of turn vs polarity and direction of the blast released into the coils from the heavy exciter coil. So you get a very intense pulse from a heavy mass copper coil into a Tesla coil type semi bifilar coil. I say semi because the return coil is only partly wound. This makes it respond only to part of the polarity of the blast with the excess going to ground. This causes an uneven ground loop to form and when that happens it is like hooking a paddle wheel to Niagra falls. Huge amounts of current get developed from that loop. Even small loops can create massive currents. As long as you can keep the valve open the unit will run in reverse then, sucking anything it needs from the ground loop currents.


 You have to be very careful of these currents they are extremely powerful in some situations.


 Curiously this is the same thing we are attempting to do in the crystal battery. The process is the very same process in both applications as far as using a bond of two different metals (iron, water pipe) and aluminum radiator. There will be a measurable power and can have a measurable current. These ground loops are very very powerful. So experiment at your own risk.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11965 on: June 12, 2012, 04:55:07 PM »
The inner is a bifilar but it is for the grounds. It is what gives the ground polarity and a direction of flow. It is the valve basically. It controls the direction via direction of turn vs polarity and direction of the blast released into the coils from the heavy exciter coil. So you get a very intense pulse from a heavy mass copper coil into a Tesla coil type semi bifilar coil. I say semi because the return coil is only partly wound. This makes it respond only to part of the polarity of the blast with the excess going to ground. This causes an uneven ground loop to form and when that happens it is like hooking a paddle wheel to Niagra falls. Huge amounts of current get developed from that loop. Even small loops can create massive currents. As long as you can keep the valve open the unit will run in reverse then, sucking anything it needs from the ground loop currents.


 You have to be very careful of these currents they are extremely powerful in some situations.


 Curiously this is the same thing we are attempting to do in the crystal battery. The process is the very same process in both applications as far as using a bond of two different metals (iron, water pipe) and aluminum radiator. There will be a measurable power


Hi jbignes5,
You are taking like person who's build this device. If yes, help us to build our one...;-)

I think, bifilar is puted and is connected nowhere, is looped it self (shorted). When we start excite this bifilar via short pulsed magnetic field (week) and in the same time to light a half bifilar via electrostatic field, we are generate wave inside bifilar. What is important there? We should to feet frequency of pulses to creating standing wave inside bifilar. When we have standing wave on there, we have maximum current on there. If we have maximum current, we can add secondary winding for receive OU power.
I'm not talking about 50Hz. For this we can add additional circuit.

Regards
Frantz

P.S. Comments are welcome.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11966 on: June 12, 2012, 06:00:10 PM »

Hi jbignes5,
You are taking like person who's build this device. If yes, help us to build our one...;-)

I think, bifilar is puted and is connected nowhere, is looped it self (shorted). When we start excite this bifilar via short pulsed magnetic field (week) and in the same time to light a half bifilar via electrostatic field, we are generate wave inside bifilar. What is important there? We should to feet frequency of pulses to creating standing wave inside bifilar. When we have standing wave on there, we have maximum current on there. If we have maximum current, we can add secondary winding for receive OU power.
I'm not talking about 50Hz. For this we can add additional circuit.

Regards
Frantz

P.S. Comments are welcome.


 At the moment I am building another project. What I am doing is getting enough information from whats available and letting it discover itself. If it was built on a principle then that principle will be revealed. But I'm pretty sure this is an inductive ground loop between two points or groundings. Once started it would act like a pressurized hose. Slap a coil around the hose and it will induce a movement in the coil. Increase the resistance or even capacitance on the load and the device compensates to fulfill the draw. By the way the coil I was talking about would be the semi bifilar solenoid coil or load coil. The bifilar would not be shorted all the time. Unshorting it would allow the current to be used in my previous design but thats not what Kapanadze did. He used the bifilar coil to inductively couple the two grounds. This changes the character of the current. One it allows a massive ground loop to form through induction and it also allows fo an enhancement to the ground via discharges from the exciter coil. The load coil will picjup both polarities from the discharge and store it for a quick moment. This allows the second bifilar to suck up as much current as possible from the ground response to the pulses. This response is of a very different character then we are traditionally taught. They are unorganized clumps of charges that are slowly leaking into our atmosphere from our point. These charges would be wasted otherwise. It is the suction of these charges we want to divert into our devices. Once polarized they are capable of great movements and I suspect it doesn't take much to cause the flow of ground currents.


 There is plenty on the subject of ground loops and how it plagues any equipment that is common grounded. Great amounts of literature is out there extolling the causes and ways to protect against it with only the light based versions being a true way to interrupt the ground loop. There seems to be no way to get around it without 200 dollars worth of additional equipment. Well why would we need to get around it then since most power companies rely on the ground loop for operation when the went the 220 volt route. They needed and additional ground safety link and hence is mostly there to protect against transients to a limited success. So ground loops are a must. Now is there a way to harness this ground loop to our advantage???  Kapanadze thought so and tried to show it in his limited way.


 So anyways I digress yet again. I am planning on building this next after I have fully figured this out to my satisfaction. Most of which I think I have accomplished. Some of my point seem to be weak but I think I am understanding what Tesla and others saw and did.

 What I was thinking is that we could fix this passively. Well inductively. What we do is poke a hole in the surface of the earths charge and let it squirt out and induce what power we need. Of course with any surface like that we need to make sure we absolutely control the aperture. This is kinda built in to the Kapanadze device with clever reflecting and harvesting of the polarities into one steady stream with acceleration.

 Lets look at this force in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sxuBsAFuI4

 Now this guy doesn't know about the electric field he is playing with here. This is not heavy current stuff. It's 3k volts that is discharged from caps! Just because the exciter coil is a very heavy gauge does not mean it is magnetic. It's the electric field. Look at the effect of the pressure it can induce in the cans. Can =1 turn of metal Very high magnetic response crushing inward.

 Remember about aluminum and magnetic fields right?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11967 on: June 12, 2012, 07:15:50 PM »

@ All,

in my last video (Capcoil 1) in post #11885 on: June 05, 2012, 12:49:14 AM  i showed my capcoil
being loaded to about 50V using my Woopy pulser (Kacher/car ignition coil).

When retesting this with a flyback transformer (= pulsed DC instead of the ignition coil which is AC),
i found that my capcoil was not loading well (few volts only).

Further tests showed that the reason for not loading the capcoil with the flyback was that
the flyback is not driven by my Kacher (= HV/HF), while the car ignition coil was.

So the reason the Capcoil is being loaded is NOT the pulsing of the coil by HV (DC or AC),
but purely the HV/HF (RF) generated by the Kacher coil and picked up by the AV-plugs on the caps,
probably in combination with the ground wires/multimeter wires (picking up the RF).

A video of this testing can be seen here: http://youtu.be/wtii5B5sxE4


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11968 on: June 12, 2012, 08:47:16 PM »
Itsu,


 Could you connect the hv hf coil to one end of the coil around the cap and see what the charging rate is then. Have you tried to connect both ends of the coil to each cap terminal then read voltages normally? Maybe doing both eventually could show the current loop we want to create. Also you might want to have a safety spark gap to handle excessive currents in between the cap and coil. This would allow a buildup and release in a natural pulsing mode. This gives you control over how fast the internal field is uncompressed by the discharge. The spark gap should build up voltage levels like loading a spring. The shorting of the gap facilitates an instant release inwards then outwards of the field. Just like in the video of the aluminum can crushing. The internal bifilar should be around the cap but you are showing that the cap can and will be charged when exposed to this field.
 Now move the cap to the inside of the field and see what the results are. The inside meaning the capcoil design.

 I'm thinking you only need one end of the wire of the Tesla coil. Just affix it to one end of the cap. The other terminal can be connected to a virtual ground or antenna or even a block of, say aluminum. Copper seems to exhibit super excitation in this field and mixed with winding direction you can polarize the space in and around it(coil). And yes this stuff is like RF except for one thing. It doesn't bother biological matter. And the other matter that it excites has a vast array of effects like super excitation. In metals this excitation is as follows.

 Iron: ??? /heat
Copper: Heavy current/heat
Aluminum: Excessive voltage/heat

 These all vary to the magnitude to each attribute. So what does this tell us then. When using excessive voltage we should use aluminum as an interface and when we want to convert the hv low current to lower voltages and higher current we should use copper 1 turn being the best or highest efficiency for transmitter to multiple coils for more powerful effects from recievers. More copper that is exposed to this field the better it resists the flow and chokes the pre-aperture slightly. This resistance can back flow into the aperture and we need a way to control that backflow. Thats what the load coil 1/4 wave flapped solenoid coil is. You could say we are creating a magnetic bottle and capturing the flow by induction in a diode like fashion. This might be a version of propulsion like the lifter technology.

 On another note I started research on the ground loop phenomena and came across this.

 "Hum reduction transformers or common mode coils are constructed with either 75 Ohm twisted pair (made of fine wire) or coaxial cable wrapped around a very high permeability core. Most basic hum isolation transformers are basically just coax cable wound on a toroid-type core. They work by mutual inductance. The coax cable is wound around a transformer core so that both the inner and shield of the cable become inductors. The tight coupling ensures that any voltage in the shield caused by variations in earth potential are transformed into the inner conductor.

The method is an ancient idea and can cope with very large ground loop signals, and has very large bandwidth with very little loss. This type of anti-humming transformer also provides DC continuity between the input and output leads which is a good thing. The transformer does not stop ground loop current flowing (the amount of current is lower because of the added inductance) but the transformer reduces the current, canceling the effect of ground loop current. A Good one can reduce the ground loop effect up to 40-50 dB."

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11969 on: June 12, 2012, 09:40:37 PM »

Hi jbignes5,
You are taking like person who's build this device. If yes, help us to build our one...;-)

I think, bifilar is puted and is connected nowhere, is looped it self (shorted). When we start excite this bifilar via short pulsed magnetic field (week) and in the same time to light a half bifilar via electrostatic field, we are generate wave inside bifilar. What is important there? We should to feet frequency of pulses to creating standing wave inside bifilar. When we have standing wave on there, we have maximum current on there. If we have maximum current, we can add secondary winding for receive OU power.
I'm not talking about 50Hz. For this we can add additional circuit.

Regards
Frantz

P.S. Comments are welcome.


Oh boy.... exactly my idea. You take the cake!