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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13189363 times)

Offline ronotte

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11340 on: April 13, 2012, 11:06:37 AM »
@wattsup
I'm under flu...I've seen the big flyback you bought...amazing! Anyway I remain on my opinion about the possibility to have on the same device both coils: TC and 1/4wave TC,  it would be really great to experiment such device   +  ionizer and check one for all if any OU. Many are now experimenting on Tesla kind of devices but none does report a possibly serious power balance sheet. For what I've seen and checked: no OU evidence found,  plus I've to observe that the output kind of power not ready useful for standard use...such fact does complicate everything as it imply a further converter to 220V/50Hz hence lowering efficiency. Well, I've still to test the big 'generator' with 50Hz modulation (great) and internal ionizing space as reported by Wesley's group. Please keep me informed about Bob's final offer for the double coil design.

@whoopy
Hey, I did about 15 days ago the same experiment using almost the same big kacher you showed. Ok, it does work in similar way but for the moment I've not found a practical use as it appears to be far from any OU. I tried also to use its HV output wire to drive another smaller standard TC but using direct connection or SG or two ionizer plates...Ok, I light a lamp, then?...
 
@forest
Thank you very much for pinpointing to all of us the  ionizer's scenario interpretation. I feel happy that I had had almost the same conclusions after WNG group started with both two plates and tyratron/ionizer experiment. I've to say also that WNG group spoke many times on the necessity to close the circuit with proper return wire and using the caduceus interwinding capacitance (not less than 120 - 140pf).

Roberto
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11341 on: April 13, 2012, 07:20:35 PM »
OK Guys, an other question. As I'm digging deeper in to this I found a stumbling block maybe somebody want to explain it. What is "ionizer", it's purpose, how to make one? I always thought it was an other sparker but searching for answers revealed that I was WRONG. :-[ So what is it?

Thanks

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11342 on: April 13, 2012, 08:11:30 PM »
OK Guys, an other question. As I'm digging deeper in to this I found a stumbling block maybe somebody want to explain it. What is "ionizer", it's purpose, how to make one? I always thought it was an other sparker but searching for answers revealed that I was WRONG. :-[ So what is it?

Thanks


 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser


 You could think about the air in between two antennas as a beam ionizer. An important read is this:


" Ionisers should not be confused with ozone generators, even though both devices operate in a similar way. Ionisers use electrostatically charged plates to produce positively or negatively charged gas ions that particulate matter sticks to (in an effect similar to static electricity). Ozone generators are optimised to attract an extra oxygen ion to an O molecule, using either a corona discharge tube or UV light. Even the best ionisers will produce a small amount of ozone, and ozone generators will produce gaseous ions of molecules other than ozone, because air consists of more elements than oxygen. At high concentrations, ozone can also be toxic to air-borne bacteria, and may destroy or kill these sometimes infectious organisms. However, the needed concentrations are toxic enough to humans and animals that the FDA in the United States explicitly demands ozone therapy not be used as medical treatment, and has taken action against businesses that fail to comply with this regulation.  Ozone is a highly toxic and extremely reactive gas. A higher daily average than 0.1 ppm (0.2 mg/m³) is not recommended and can damage the lungs and olfactory bulb cells directly."

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11343 on: April 13, 2012, 08:42:12 PM »
@jbignes5

Thanks for the reply. I did read about the ionizers here(  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser) before you posted the web address. But I still don't know what kind of ionizer cHenriques is using in his setup.  You said "Ionisers use electrostatically charged plates to produce positively or negatively charged gas ions that particulate matter sticks to (in an effect similar to static electricity)."

OK, so what is it?  Is it a tube, a diy gizmo? I have spend lots of time google'ing this with out a satisfactory result..

Best.. 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11344 on: April 13, 2012, 08:52:56 PM »
@ronotte

Bob's company shipped out my order for those two flybacks today.

Also, Bob just sent me an e-mail for the TBC model flyback.

So basically they are asking for $1000 for set-up costs for winding of these TBC flybacks. This includes all their material works and engineering. Future flybacks will cost around $90 each, which is fantastic! I knew he had to bring down the price but I think once they have the set-up made, they can make these flybacks anytime they want without asking for killer minimum orders. This is the best way to do this.

So I will be calling him in about 1 hour to give him the green light. I will pay to the engineering costs since they will only bill through a company. Then I will be able to order the flybacks and sell/ship them to those interested again because they only want to deal with official companies.

I just have to confirm that the flyback price is for either the TBC-110-OU or the TBC-110-OU-DR. I know you only want to work with the DR model but I want them both for comparison trials. At least we will be able to have access to these in the near future.

wattsup

PS: Hope you get well soon.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11346 on: April 13, 2012, 11:22:11 PM »
Just watch.... (in Russian language) but .... if you don't understand ask your friend whos know Russian.
And just think.... ;-) not so strong

Hi Ftantz,

Thanks for the video links.
Just even I speak fluent Russian language, still there are unknowns about  input power in those experiments as ampermeter did not show it properly.. 12W/6W bulbs can be easily lighted from 2 generators. I understand the lack of knowledge there but still, 1 Ohm resistor in series + oscilloscope shots would allow to see a lot more what is happening there.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11347 on: April 14, 2012, 01:21:27 AM »
@jbignes5

Thanks for the reply. I did read about the ionizers here(  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser) before you posted the web address. But I still don't know what kind of ionizer cHenriques is using in his setup.  You said "Ionisers use electrostatically charged plates to produce positively or negatively charged gas ions that particulate matter sticks to (in an effect similar to static electricity)."

OK, so what is it?  Is it a tube, a diy gizmo? I have spend lots of time google'ing this with out a satisfactory result..

Best..

hi 27Bubba,
Is not necessary a ionizer, the aim is to block the charge to go to the ground, so if you put a simple little capacitor on the end of the HV coil the massive charge of the bank capacitor don´t goes to the ground

other problem is important, if you discharge the tank capacitor through a tesla coil primary, it forms a ressonant circuit, so when the polarity of the bank capacitor to be reverse will exist a shunt created by the diodes :S maybe a valve regulador can help us, see this http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/working_energy_device.htm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11348 on: April 14, 2012, 02:31:39 AM »
@cHenriques

Thank you very much for the explanation. Now I understand why I no longer have a spark even thou I hear hissing sound. The capacitor I'm using is way to big. Thanks again.
Cheers..
BR

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11349 on: April 14, 2012, 02:57:13 AM »
Bubla,
What is the schematic that are you using right now?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11350 on: April 14, 2012, 03:22:21 AM »



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[size=0.9166em]coil winders, my new treasure, Old Good USA QUALITY No Chinese[/size]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsEBfDNRFhM
Nothing important but it is my next step  towards  independence in experiments.
3 coil winders. I do not have  tensioners  yet but 2 of them works.. Well looks like works.
If anyone  know how to play with it I will appreciate  your help.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11351 on: April 14, 2012, 03:25:43 AM »
3 Coil Winders
my new treasure, Old Good USA QUALITY No Chinese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsEBfDNRFhM


I do not know how to play with it  as of yet.
I  have no tensioners for the wire and no wire :)
One winder does not have motor
Two others works... Well I think works


If anyone has any experience with this models I will be happy  to get some help.


Wesley



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11352 on: April 14, 2012, 03:49:08 AM »
Bubla,
What is the schematic that are you using right now?

Yours, but modified by Forrest ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11353 on: April 14, 2012, 09:59:40 AM »
Hi Ftantz,

Thanks for the video links.
Just even I speak fluent Russian language, still there are unknowns about  input power in those experiments as ampermeter did not show it properly.. 12W/6W bulbs can be easily lighted from 2 generators. I understand the lack of knowledge there but still, 1 Ohm resistor in series + oscilloscope shots would allow to see a lot more what is happening there.


Hi T-1000


Links, which I put, are showed only some phenomena.
There are only indication of direction where we can go....


I think, this is a good way.
T-1000,
I think, your Russian is better like my. If you can contact with author of those experiments...? And ask about details...


Regards
Frantz


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11354 on: April 14, 2012, 10:47:26 PM »
hi everybody,

On Avemenckro's plug If the output is a tesla coil, someone correct me if I'm wrong
 but the capacitor and the primary will be a resonant circuit, so when the coil recharge the capacitor on oposite direction, the capacitor will be shunted by the diodes  ( of course if the diodes work with high frequency) and the most power is wasted
 
 what do you think?

hi bubbaa,
I think that with the two earths like forest schematic it will not work because the HV coil is shorted in one direction
so I would take out the earth ou the capacitor


 

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