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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13177085 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11220 on: March 21, 2012, 11:23:23 AM »
@All

I just had to put this video here. This and the others are old jewels of EE that are just so great to see back then in their time frame and guys just may see something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPT7Wtp3yoo&NR=1

No news yet.

wattsup

Here, Seymour Cray describes a patent he got for magnetic core memory architecture, among other interesting topics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW7j2ipE2Ck






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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11221 on: March 21, 2012, 12:43:56 PM »



Hi jbignes5
I have bad news in regard to movie which you put over.


This circuit is powered by pulsed DC current. In fact this is a sum of DC and AC current.
In fact, current in coil have only one direction - magnetic flux too.
In this point electric motor taking some power (current measurement on input of transformer).
when you put neo magnet to the core in first position, you are adding magnetic flux to constant pulsed flux and you are near of the saturation point of transformer.
Magnet i other direction moving flux in down and in fact constant part of flux from signal is removed by magnet flux. Finlay we have alternate part of flux in transformer.
F.ex.
if you remove transformer and connect directly motor to power source, you will have better solution or put AC on input of transformer without DC part.
There is no OU.
I'm sorry for this but I would like to save your time.


Frantz


 Why is it OU OU OU with you guys. That isn't even my concern. Learning how we can do things better and more efficiently is the goal. If we can learn to improve the efficiency to 100% then why would you need OU?


 Do you want to know how to improve the efficiency? use 100% voltage and no current from the source. You also need to shield the wires until you convert the high voltage to current in your device. The shielding needs to be static so it reflects back to the wires and contains the field around the wire. This way there is zero loss going from source to load and a transforming action at the load to give you whatever current you need. This is what Tesla learned!

 This is what steve is seeing. By using the spark gap he is removing current from the equation and lessening his losses and still allowing his load to be powered. In fact if he could get rid of the gap itself and have a transistor with near 100% switching times then why would he need the gap? Read Tesla again. A lot of guys here still don't know who he is or what he has done. Tesla goes to great lengths to show you the effects of the electric field vastly outweigh the effects of the magnetic field. He has pointed out that there is a flow that we don't detect in our atmosphere to the core of our planet. You could think of it as he is pointing to Niagara falls and saying there is the wheel work we want to attach to. He was pointing but no one wanted to hear that because the established rulers were making their incomes from us already. Why change when they can suck us dry with the current system they found? They like their incomes and they won't change easily.

 "The general character of the devices employed in these systems is now well understood (To Tesla). An alternating-current magneto-machine is used as the source of supply. The current(High Voltage) developed thereby is conducted through a transmission-circuit(copper wires or even air or any matter) to one or more distant points at which the transformers(motors or real transformers) are located. These consist of induction-machines of various kinds. In ***some*** cases ***ordinary*** forms of induction-coil have been used with one coil in the transmitting-circuit and the other in a local or consumption circuit, the coils being differently proportioned according to the work to be done in the consumption-circuit—that is to say, if the work requires a current of higher potential than that in the transmission-circuit the secondary or induced coil is of greater length and resistance than the primary, while, on the other hand, if a quantity current of lower potential is wanted the longer coil is made the primary. In lieu of these devices various forms of electro-dynamic induction-machines, including the *********combined motors and generators*********, have been devised(by Tesla). For instance, a motor is constructed in accordance with well understood principles(understood by Tesla), and on the ****same**** armature are wound induced coils which constitute a generator. The motor-coils are generally of ****fine**** wire and the generator-coils of ****coarser**** wire, so as to produce a current of greater quantity and lower potential than the line-current, which is of relatively *****high potential, to avoid loss in long transmission****. A similar arrangement is to wind coils corresponding to those described in a ring or similar core, and by means of a commutator of suitable kind to direct the current through the inducing-coils successively, so as to maintain a movement of the poles of the core and of the lines of force which set up the currents in the induced coils.
Without enumerating the objections to these systems in detail, it will suffice to say that the theory or the principle of the action or operation of these devices has apparently been so little understood(before Tesla's discoveries) that their proper construction and use have up to the present time been attended with various difficulties and great expense. The transformers are very liable to be injured and burned out, and the means resorted to for curing this and other defects have almost invariably been at the ***expense of efficiency***.
The form of converter or transformer which I have devised appears to be largely free from the defects and objections to which I have alluded. While I do not herein advance any theory as to its mode of operation, I would state that, in so far as the principle of construction is concerned, it is analogous to those transformers which I have above described as electro-dynamic induction-machines, except that it involves no moving parts whatever, and is hence not liable to wear or other derangement, and requires no more attention than the other and more common induction-machines."

 What I am gathering from this is that if you generate high voltage conversion and use that to power the motor you get way less loss. Plus the added effect that the resulting lenze force is only a product of the heavy current. Well it's there for the high voltage but it is always linked to high current and diminishes almost fully for high voltages. So if there was a way to generate super high voltages with very little current and very little lenze  law then why not include the field coils as fine wire around a heavy and subdivided core and use the heavy wire in the rotor. This is the transformer, from field coils to rotor coils via induction only. So we also get rotation from this equation then.

 Thane Hinze (not sure of the spelling) has proven that there is such a thing as regenerative acceleration but it is based on Tesla's hard work. He is claiming that he invented this process and almost every aspect is his original idea. But when I look at his video's he doesn't really understand the process fully and is going with the information that was taught to him in school. This goes against what Tesla was finding out. But it does show that Tesla was 100 percent right.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11222 on: March 21, 2012, 03:51:08 PM »

 Lets take this one further.


Lets think about a novel motor design from this process.


 We have a very high voltage coil on one side of the rotor and a very high current coil directly opposite. the high voltage coil is the generator and the high current coil is the driver. They are both connected via an iron rotor that looks like spokes on a wheel. So when you pulse the driver coil both the high voltage and current coil's spoke gets saturated. This creates a conversion of the high current into high voltage and generates additional voltage via it's passing the magnet plus generates movement in the same process. What if we combine the two coils on the same rotor position?


 Now we can limit the voltage and current by the use of the magnetic amplifier to any desired output pattern or ratio as well as speed control.

 The mag amp was a theft of intellectual right of the owner who in this case had an existing patent on a inductive valve for motor control. The Navy did this theft. The patent is 390,820

 The only difference is the navy's design was an improvement to solid state from the mechanical but uses the same process. The patent was merely showing the basics of the method.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11223 on: March 21, 2012, 04:18:24 PM »

 Why is it OU OU OU with you guys. That isn't even my concern. Learning how we can do things better and more efficiently is the goal. If we can learn to improve the efficiency to 100% then why would you need OU?

....


Hi again jbignes5,
thank you for your explanation
now I see your intentions.
Electrostatic field is a very nice phenomena.
At this point is a question: How to utilize this type of energy?


Why I'm talking about OU? Because this forum is named OU... ;-)

I'm sorry for this but that "in my opinion" is a primary idea for this kind of forums.


Regards
Frantz


P.S.
I have a book A.D. 1959 about Magnetic Amplifiers (400 pages)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11224 on: March 21, 2012, 06:11:49 PM »




 Well there are a lot out there that do not agree with the misnomer name of Over Unity. Listen there is only so much energy in our system. Even though it is unlimited from our viewpoint it is only part of that system. Just like in nature that system includes a balancing mechanism. Shift the balance and the system responds to fill the imbalance. Thats the natural reaction and a good rule of thumb.


 So how do we make the system respond in the way we want? Well when we create bigger divides by concentrating fields the response is immense from the Universal system. When we create a magnetic field it divides the electric field up into a network and provides a sponge like network to form. When we release the magnetic field it crashes to zero going well into the negative portion like in a wave in a pond. The volume hasn't changed, the only thing that has changed is the amount over or under the plane of the water. Magnetic and electric field both work in this method and is only separated by 90 degrees.


 Now creating a high voltage field response works in the inverse method but it is still the same method. The electric field has near zero resistance and we can have effects at solar system size from such a huge field. Near instant voltage rises can be created with very little input and very little kick back.


 All we need to be able to do is convert this instant event into current and that we can do with specialized step down transformers. These are special because they are oil filled to reduce oxygen which is highly reactive to the high voltage we will be using. This will help us to bring down very high voltages that we will create in our device. This conversion will have losses in the heavy current part of our device but it should be manageable via heat sinking of that area.


 We really have to understand the real power of the electric field. Tesla knew it was the secret and took many many pains to learn it's secret. It is extremely fast and from experimental proof it is far reaching. The experimental proof is what we see in things like the exciter or Tesla coil or even the experiments of Tesla. Some people have used this in current experiments and we still have trouble in understanding the real mechanism. Why I don't know. Maybe it is because I got my basic instruction from a tech school and then expanded my learning on my own that I was able to figure this out by reading everything Tesla wrote.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11225 on: March 21, 2012, 06:55:00 PM »
 This is the latest one hour video from  ThaneCHeins who has been working on shorting coils and accelerating motors AC and DC.. Everyone should see this clip..
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9w8toxQl0s&list=UUnVHgFDtOaEkUJ6OJjmf1MA&feature=plcp
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11226 on: March 21, 2012, 08:10:20 PM »


 With the advent of bifilar coils do you see a way to harness disruptive discharges? This links directly to Tesla's method to modulate the electric field via disruptive discharges. But if we could make the device to get the disruptive discharge the mag amp then what do you think will happen. We could modulate and use positive feedback to maintain the modulation all from one discharge through the mag amp(oil filled).


 My thoughts on bifilar coils is this. From what Tesla said there is very little self induction to them. They really have no resistance other then the wire itself. Nothing but true resistance. The resistance that heat comes from. But 90 degrees from the bifilar coil is a huge magnetic movement. If we put a heavy copper wire coil around the same core as this bifilar coil it will transform the electrical and magnetic potentials into real current. But the speed of this movement is heavily enhanced. It's like harnessing then accelerating a bullet in that sense. The target coil is traditional and recieves the energy flowing through it channeling it into our devices.


 We might even be able to place these on a ring alternating emitter bifilar coil with thick pickup coils all in parallel mode to increase the current generated or even swap them in and out as needed for variable output mode.


 So what we have here is a channel that we can use to shoot trough the current coil in a circular method.


 Hmm so that possibilities are endless...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11227 on: March 22, 2012, 08:42:09 PM »
Hi Kator01

For properly understanding principles of paramagnetic-resonance you should read this book.  Tha Authors are L.I.Mandeshtam and N.D.Papaleksi. This great researh have been done in the begining of last century and was printed in 1934 in Journal of Technical Physics. The book is "On paramagnetic excitation of electrical oscillations". The original is on Russian but i think you can find it on German and English.

Мандельштам, Папалекси: О параметрическом возбуждении электрических колебаний - 1934

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« Reply #11228 on: March 22, 2012, 09:35:49 PM »

Мандельштам, Папалекси: О параметрическом возбуждении электрических колебаний - 1934

Regards !!

Спасибо за книгу :)

The regenerative principles are widely used in this book and may be usefull for those who want to use BEMF as power source (use of echo not direct impulse you feed into coil!)

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« Reply #11229 on: March 22, 2012, 10:48:06 PM »
Спасибо за книгу :)

The regenerative principles are widely used in this book and may be usefull for those who want to use BEMF as power source (use of echo not direct impulse you feed into coil!)


 I would like to get your input on the idea I had with the ring core and bifilar (gun) coil with the regular heavy current coil (target)?


 I know you have some experience with this area. I'm gonna try an experiment with my core setup. I'll try to get a picture of the core for you. It is solid iron bar about 1 inch in diameter bent with a outer full radius of 10". I had it bent into two halves. If I fired a pulse into a high gauge bifilar coil, say 20-22 gauge and then wrapped some heavy house wiring about 12 gauge as the target coil what kind of response do you think I would get?

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« Reply #11230 on: March 22, 2012, 10:53:01 PM »

 I would like to get your input on the idea I had with the ring core and bifilar (gun) coil with the regular heavy current coil (target)?


 I know you have some experience with this area. I'm gonna try an experiment with my core setup. I'll try to get a picture of the core for you. It is solid iron bar about 1 inch in diameter bent with a outer full radius of 10". I had it bent into two halves. If I fired a pulse into a high gauge bifilar coil, say 20-22 gauge and then wrapped some heavy house wiring about 12 gauge as the target coil what kind of response do you think I would get?

Unless the low gauge coil is 90 degrees to high gauge coil and standing wave is in effect, the Lenz law would be instant. You could also try that on reverse then charge HV cap then discharge cap over SG to step down coil. In that way it would be different story... :)

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« Reply #11231 on: March 22, 2012, 11:11:14 PM »
Unless the low gauge coil is 90 degrees to high gauge coil and standing wave is in effect, the Lenz law would be instant. You could also try that on reverse then charge HV cap then discharge cap over SG to step down coil. In that way it would be different story... :)


 I'm gonna test the mag amp and see what kind of wave forms I can get. If I can get the same sharp effect that a spark gap can get then we won't have to worry about the SG. I'm hoping we can clean up the initial blast emf and produce clean frequency response from the heavy current coil. I'm wondering what would happen if I shorted the high current coil while the blast through the bifilar coil is happening. This should do two things. One is excite the heavy current coil and maybe even reflect the opposite way back through the bifilar coil. This seems like an interesting experiment. You guys did the same thing didn't you with the yoke coil? Well without the bifilar coil.

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« Reply #11232 on: March 22, 2012, 11:18:26 PM »

You guys did the same thing didn't you with the yoke coil? Well without the bifilar coil.

With yoke coil it was different approach. We resonated ferrite core in 3D for nuclear magnetic resonance. Then weird things happened, including ones what cause headache for few days (probably from ultrafafast mechanical ultrasound in gap betwen 2 yoke parts). Normally you need kilowatts to cause NMR but our approach was resonance with small input - in same way as N. Tesla did.. :)

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« Reply #11233 on: March 22, 2012, 11:32:12 PM »
With yoke coil it was different approach. We resonated ferrite core in 3D for nuclear magnetic resonance. Then weird things happened, including ones what cause headache for few days (probably from ultrafafast mechanical ultrasound in gap betwen 2 yoke parts). Normally you need kilowatts to cause NMR but our approach was resonance with small input - in same way as N. Tesla did.. :)


 Ahhh ok.. My approach would be like a drum with the two strings and beads. like this: [size=78%]http://www.janm.org/exhibits/bigdrum/resources/kids_activity1.php[/size]


The beads being the emf kinda. When rotated in between the hand this thing gets pretty fast. The drum part will be the heavy current coil and the strings and beads are the emf bursts.


 I'm getting all kinds of ideas now.. What if there are two heavy current coils on opposite sides. Then we could have two drums to pull from.

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« Reply #11234 on: March 23, 2012, 12:10:51 AM »
Hi Kator01

For properly understanding principles of paramagnetic-resonance you should read this book.  Tha Authors are L.I.Mandeshtam and N.D.Papaleksi. This great researh have been done in the begining of last century and was printed in 1934 in Journal of Technical Physics. The book is "On paramagnetic excitation of electrical oscillations". The original is on Russian but i think you can find it on German and English.

Мандельштам, Папалекси: О параметрическом возбуждении электрических колебаний - 1934

Regards !!

Hi Kaduci, thank you very much. I scanned my data and found it in one of my folders , it is in russian language and at the end there is a german abstract. I archived it in 2010. I can not find it in english or in german language. It was published in a german technical newpaper 1934. I doubt there exists a full translation. So if the time is right I will find someone who can translate this important piece of knowledge. It is my perception that these two gentlemen have been the only ones who have studied and published this techniques.

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Kator01

 

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