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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13683777 times)

Offline zcsaba77

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11130 on: March 10, 2012, 11:29:42 PM »
I watch video, what andrea76 posted, somebody know what contain green box is showed video, high frequecy generator?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11131 on: March 11, 2012, 02:35:18 AM »
Hay Everyone:
Someone mentioned that Don Smith never built an OU device.
Well I just watched this video a few minutes ago, and I would have to conclude that this device is OU.
This unit only has an input of 500mA to 1000mA and the output is quite impressive.
I posted this here because I see a lot of similarities between this and Tariels device.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUMEEz5UGdA&list=UUgXOxvkWEG07OU3Aw7dvOkQ&index=1&feature=plcp 

This is an awesome video, and this fellow does awesome work. 
I would like to know of a good cheap way to make those coil winding spacers. 
The windings look perfectly spaced, and very solid.
One very interesting point is that the coils are made from bare wire. 
This may have something to do with it's ability to collect the ambient energy fields. 

The full schematic with his video description is found on a previous video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffrQsmLNVd0&feature=related
I find the video's date kind of cute!     2038/07/13
This just may be the future in the making! 

This has been a very interesting and educational day for me!

@Stefan:
You may want to post this video as a new intro video! 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11132 on: March 11, 2012, 04:26:55 AM »
B&W 2408TL Coils specs. can be found here:
http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/aduxlex.htm

Ignition Coil Driver Circuit used in those videos I posted.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11132 on: March 11, 2012, 04:26:55 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11133 on: March 11, 2012, 04:40:27 AM »
Hay Everyone:
Someone mentioned that Don Smith never built an OU device.
Well I just watched this video a few minutes ago, and I would have to conclude that this device is OU.
This unit only has an input of 500mA to 1000mA and the output is quite impressive.
I posted this here because I see a lot of similarities between this and Tariels device.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUMEEz5UGdA&list=UUgXOxvkWEG07OU3Aw7dvOkQ&index=1&feature=plcp 

This is an awesome video, and this fellow does awesome work. 
I would like to know of a good cheap way to make those coil winding spacers. 
The windings look perfectly spaced, and very solid.
One very interesting point is that the coils are made from bare wire. 
This may have something to do with it's ability to collect the ambient energy fields. 

The full schematic with his video description is found on a previous video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffrQsmLNVd0&feature=related
I find the video's date kind of cute!     2038/07/13
This just may be the future in the making! 

This has been a very interesting and educational day for me!

@Stefan:
You may want to post this video as a new intro video!

Hi for your spacing, can coffee stick cut by 4 would do, u could take 2 of them glue them together and cut it after....

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11134 on: March 11, 2012, 05:14:29 AM »
Hay Everyone:
Someone mentioned that Don Smith never built an OU device.
Well I just watched this video a few minutes ago, and I would have to conclude that this device is OU.
This unit only has an input of 500mA to 1000mA and the output is quite impressive.
I posted this here because I see a lot of similarities between this and Tariels device.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUMEEz5UGdA&list=UUgXOxvkWEG07OU3Aw7dvOkQ&index=1&feature=plcp 

This is an awesome video, and this fellow does awesome work. 
I would like to know of a good cheap way to make those coil winding spacers. 
The windings look perfectly spaced, and very solid.
One very interesting point is that the coils are made from bare wire. 
This may have something to do with it's ability to collect the ambient energy fields. 

The full schematic with his video description is found on a previous video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffrQsmLNVd0&feature=related
I find the video's date kind of cute!     2038/07/13
This just may be the future in the making! 

This has been a very interesting and educational day for me!

@Stefan:
You may want to post this video as a new intro video!

Hi all, my first post here. AbbaRue, when I work out the power I do it differently.

He says each bulb require's 100 Ma at 12 volts so that is 1.2 watts per bulb.

5 x 1.2 watts - 6 watts. If he lit the 5 bulbs from a 12 volt battery they should use 500 Ma
which is 6 watts.

But are the lights lit up as bright in the video as when they are lit by 12 volts DC ?
That is the question. If the answer is yes then a closer investigation is required.

Cheers


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11134 on: March 11, 2012, 05:14:29 AM »
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Offline AbbaRue

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11135 on: March 11, 2012, 06:01:19 AM »
What convinces me of OU isn't the light bulbs he is lighting.
It's the arc he draws when he brings the leads together.
The arc doesn't change the draw off the battery,
and that arc is much more then 6 watts would give you.
Input:  12v x 500mA = 6 Watts. 

As for the spacer rods: 
I was wondering if there is anything out there already evenly grooved. 
Cutting grooves along a rod and getting them exact sounds like a nightmare. 
Maybe some kind of plastic comb that has the same size teeth all the way down it.
Must be something we can use.  $120 a coil is a lot of money. 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11136 on: March 11, 2012, 09:08:07 AM »
Hi AbbaRue

For making your own air coil look at the pdf document I attached

JoeFR

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11136 on: March 11, 2012, 09:08:07 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11137 on: March 11, 2012, 03:36:38 PM »
You are on the right track! Resonance, then minimum input power with maximum output!
And when dialectric starts to burn, you are actually making it as live wire. Now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9pAmgCwwFA will make sense to you :)
The draw of energy from ambient source is already in flyback!
Also our team discovered about Russian "smart" flyback, it had double secondary instead of single secondary:
1) First secondary is winded clockwise;
2) The good dielectric laid on top;
3) 4 times longer secondary is winded counetr clockwise
So in general it is basic Tesla 1/4 wave resonator with receiving coil inside.. :)








Please View new video that is explaining mechanics of FE in TK devices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKVyeQkW8j0&feature=youtu.be




NYW Group presents:
Video#1 :
Sine wave 3D. Energy dependency from  sustaining factors.
Spark Gap particle acceleration.
Plasma acting like coil.
Property of Cosmic Ray assumed as similar to Photon in nature.
Switching sequence to get the effects of desired operation.


There are two parts in  this video.
Second part starts from 15:18 minute of video.






How many times have you been  analyzing electrostatics, electromagnetics, in spacial form?


video#1  IS FIRST OF SERIES ....


"GET THEM BY THE BALLS ........."




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11138 on: March 11, 2012, 06:32:50 PM »
@joefr

Thanks for the link to the pdf file I was looking for something like that.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11138 on: March 11, 2012, 06:32:50 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11139 on: March 11, 2012, 06:57:54 PM »
see this video with translationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq76CQapyI

at min 12:59 the guy takes the shock: the transistor operated at 220 volt not 12 or so.the wrong reading of the voltmeter is not due to the magnetic field but in the high frequency component of the output current.again : can the tesla longitudinal wave are related to the gravity?? that wave travel to the straight black wire (grounding cable).this cable had wrapped  around the  blue coil (220 turns for 220 volt output) ???  mmm....

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11140 on: March 11, 2012, 10:57:04 PM »
Here is translation of table .
Type of wire :
П - Провод -  wire
Э - Эмалированый - enamelled
M or B - type of enamel
The last number --  diameter of wire .
Regards

@Osiakosia

Thanks a heep. This really helps and based on the above table some things are getting much more clear now adding wire diameter and resistance with turns is just phenomenal.

There are two versions of this TBC110LA  flyback transformer:

Russian and Lithuanian.
Russian got single secondary;
Lithuanian got double 1:4 secondary;
We used Lithuanian with Caduceus primary...

@T-1000

Wow so there is a Russian and a Lithuanian TBC-110LA just to double the complication.

You see in that table where you see the TBC-110nA. If that table is correct, then the Official diagram of the WNYg flyback cannot be right.

In the official circuit we see there is a split primary (1-2 and 2-3) connected at 2-3, one 5 split secondary (4-9) and one split HV (10-11).

But the double secondary models as per the table says as follows;

1) Split primary 1-2 (48 turns 0.23mm) and 2-3 (48 turns 0.23mm). On some WNYg circuits the connection is 2-3 with 1 not used so half the primary is not used or is resonant to ????, and on other circuit diagrams we see the connection as 1-3 that uses the the complete primary coil of 96 turns.

2) Split Secondary 4-5 (80 turns 0.41mm) and 5-6 (80 turns 0.23mm).

3) Single Secondary 6-7. Technically does not exist so this makes a problem in all the diagrams.

4) Split secondary 7-8 (610 turns 0.23mm) and 8-9 (190 turns 0.23mm). So here is where the fun starts because you have a capacitor across the 7-8. So the HV- goes to 9-8 then 8-7. Technically it cannot go further then that unless 7 is physically jumped to 6 to then go through 6-5 and 5-4 to exit from 4 and go to the Caduceus center output.

Otherwise the HV- leaves the flyback at 7 and not at 4 which would mean that 4-5/5-6 is left as an open non-connected coil.

So if the HV- is on 4, there has to be a jumper from 6-7. So is it possible that the WNYg group has been using that fyback without realizing that there is no coil between 6 and 7 and that in fact the HV- at 9 only reaches 7. I will expand on this further down.

The only other possibility is that the HV- leaves at 4 and there is no jumper at 6-7 but that would mean the HV- from the HV is just going through the 9-8-7 (7 is left open) and just stops there, and, then a fresh open lead 6 starts fresh at 6-5-4 where 4 then goes to the Caduceus center output (so 6 is also open). This would mean the HV- stops inside the flyback primary/secondary side and starts again from there but without being actually connected in series to the HV-.

So we need to find out which one it is and stop this guessing game. It is amazing why such a simple component such as a flyback can wind up being so complicated to try and understand. Whatever we do to try and replicate the WNYg effect all depends on how it is really connected and seeing from the diagrams, they are not complete.

This again, as I fall back to where we were a few months ago on this question, I am just totally puzzled as to why it would be so difficult to take that TBC-100LA flyback and do a live measurement of resistance between the pins to see exactly what it is and how it is really connected.

So, anyways this post will be a long one because after so many flybacks being used, so many tests and set-ups, so many hours of trying to replicate the slightest effect, there are some major points that need to be cleared up. One major point is that running a flyback with only 4-5 watts input and getting a light to light up is next to impossible with the flybacks I have used thus far. Yes, I have seen my bulb light up somewhat but the input was more like 40 watts or more and not 4-5. So if the flyback you have is the main reason, because the rest of the set-up is pretty standard issue stuff like the Caduceus coil does not require rocket science measurement and the rest of the components when they are in place should be more then adequate to achieve the effect. So where are the differences is the question we must ask ourselves and consciously try to explain.

I took a grab of the TBC110LA (or TBC110nA) flyback from one of @stiveps last videos on the WNYg and have placed pin numbers and shown the wires going back and forth to the flyback to identify each one. As you will notice I added a Question 1 (Q1) showing a pair of wires that leads to the flyback but I cannot find any source for those wires in the video. I would like to know what they are.

@ALL

I also prepared a Flyback comparison looking at the main differences. In most all flyback transformers you have a Primary, a Secondary and an HV coil.

1) Modern Flyback: These types are the ones we see most often. They however incorporate all three coil types in the same winding reel as well as include internal diodes that are not suitable for the type of output required in the WNYg devices. Since all winds are in the same reel, any heat generated in one coil will affect to life span of the other coils. Also, the wire gauges used are extremely fine and offer less possibility to be run in harsher pulsing schemes.

2) Older Flyback: These are like my FLY295. This type has the Secondaries and the HV coil wound on the same core side and reel. Although much better then the Modern types, you still have the chance of burning out the coil from excessive heat. Also, the only real types of this design that are worth trying out is if the Secondary is completely isolated from the HV otherwise the HV will eventual burn out the Secondary. But even then, this design has the secondaries wound first onto the core reel, then the hV is wound over that so the HV coil never has very close coupling to the core.

3) TBC110nA: This flyback is the best type to use with the WNYg devices although they are very hard to find. Luckily we have been able to identify the winding turns and wire diameters so making such a coil will not be so hard. The main cruz of this coil is that the HV coil sits alone on one side of the core. The primary and secondaries sit on the other side of the core on the same reel. This may be a little bad but depending on how the coil is being used, it can work to the experimenters advantage. First we have to consider that the HV- of the HV coil is sent into one of the secondaries before it heads off to the caduceus Coil. This usage of the HV- in this manner will create effects tht we can only dream of at this point.

So imagine that the primary pulses and produces output in the secondaries as well as in the HV coils. If you want, you can also pulse the secondary and create output in the HV coil and the other secondaries as well as in the primary. It works both ways at varying degrees of output. But the main point here is the HV- going back into the secondary. When i tried this with several modern flybacks, they produced fantastic outputs but the flybacks blew within 10-20 minutes. They could not take the beating because all was happening on the same coil reel. THE TBC110 separates the HV coil from the secondary/primary coils so there is no totaling of heat generation. The heat in the HV coil stays there and the heating the secondary coil has an easier time to dissipate since there is nothing else covering it. The inter coil effects this will generate are tremendous since each Pri/Sec coil can act like a Pri or Secondary. The HV- in the Sec creates a second primary in the secondary that then acts additionally upon the HV coil that then send back again to the secondary and in there you will be creating some very messy pulsing.

Anyways, sorry for such a long post but I hope guys will now realize the importance of the TBC flyback. My next post will identify how to make a TBC flyback.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11140 on: March 11, 2012, 10:57:04 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11141 on: March 11, 2012, 11:38:49 PM »
@wattsup

"My next post will identify how to make a TBC flyback."

Nice post, learned allot. Looking forward to the instructions how to create the TBC flyback coil As of now I have 3 flyback's that come out of "old" (1995 production year) TV. They have the diodes in them and the spark is very weak. So I contemplating about reusing the ferrite out one of them, turn phenolic discs and wind new coil... For the secondary I'm planning on using the coated wire that was on the back of the tube (a degauss feature?), concern is, is it the coating thick enough? The chart posted in previous posts are not very clear to me. What would be the ratio between the HV side and secondary. In another word, the secondary winding would have twice as much layers or winds as HV? Thanks.

BR

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11142 on: March 11, 2012, 11:58:06 PM »
I took a grab of the TBC110LA (or TBC110nA) flyback from one of @stiveps last videos on the WNYg and have placed pin numbers and shown the wires going back and forth to the flyback to identify each one. As you will notice I added a Question 1 (Q1) showing a pair of wires that leads to the flyback but I cannot find any source for those wires in the video. I would like to know what they are.

Please watch closely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jbUA6_10c again and redraw connections diagram.
It is right before your eyes... :)
P.S> The secondary of ТВС-110ЛА have capacitance but no resistance...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11143 on: March 12, 2012, 12:01:00 AM »
Actually I think at 12:59 he sticks his knuckles in the cooling fan, not a shock.
The thing I am suspicious about is the green box, the battery powers the converter
the converter is connected to the the green box and the green box powers the resonant coil
setup which powers the lights. The inverter is connected to the green box for much longer than
the green box powers anything. And the green box looks heavy. I'll play devils advocate for a while.

The devils advocate says the green box has a bunch of Nicad or NiMH batteries connected to make
a 220 volt battery which is recharged by the rectified inverter output, the transistors chop
the 220 DC at HF for the resonant coils, the heating transistors ensure the green box batteries
don't get too drained because they only run it for a short time before they shut it off, claiming
heated transistors as the reason. When he connects the charging feedback it's not for long.

In reality if it is running from free energy from the environment he should be able to recharge
a bank of batteries rather than light some lights. That is in no way a convincing demonstration
they repeatedly turn the device off it only runs for very short periods.

Other things that don't add up are, he says that he wants patents, but then he says it is Tesla's
invention. So he can't get a patent anyway. Then he tells the guy at the end that the Earth connection
can be replaced by a circuit. Also at the end the video is pointed at a 5 kW generator for quite a while.

Devils advocate says the setup is powered by a 220 volt battery in the green box which is
charged repeatedly by the inverter/converter and the car battery, the setup can't hardly even run
long enough to boil a kettle. At 16:30 he shuts it off and says the transistors are heated then one of them
holds his thumb on the transistors for quite a while without getting burned just after they turned it off.

I'm not convinced, but that doesn't mean much. When there is a box big enough to hold batteries
I am immediately suspicious, the aluminium box the newer motor generator is mounted on could hold
a lot of vehicle batteries as well.

Cheers

 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11144 on: March 12, 2012, 04:58:41 AM »
@Farmland good points,
Also how do we know that the bulbs used are 1000 watts,if they are 100 watts then the power out
 is 500 watts not 5,000 watts,hes current meter readings would be screwy.He uses a step down transformer with a bridge rectifier
to loop the device,so its ac at 220 vac .In another video
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4X5zy0piSg&feature=relmfu) he lite 5 bulbs the current
 measured was 23.8 amps,
he then connected the wires from the lamps directly to the battery and started the device
 and looped it
in order for that to work the output had to be around 12 volts dc or pulsing dc,so giving
 him a break lets say its 15 volts dc
times 23.8 amps total output equals 357 watt approx.,notice that the windings on this coil
 use much bigger gauge wire,he is lying about the power output.
Is it real or a trick with batteries I don't know,if its real hes not going to tell anyone
 how to duplicate it ever,also I notice
hes lack of any sophisticated equipment is interesting,he has junk,this goes two ways the device is real simple
to make no tuning needed or its a fake.

 

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